The Red Hook Ramblers recording a wax cylinder at The Edison National Historic site.

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  • Опубліковано 15 жов 2024
  • The Edison National Historic site plays hosts to musical visitors several times each year in order to demonstrate and add to cylinders recordings in their over 110 year old library of recordings. This session took place on July 8, 2011. The RHR recorded several songs despite some technical difficulties.

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  • @spacemissing
    @spacemissing 7 років тому +22

    Two-minute records might have been the origin of the concept of "fast and furious".
    "Bump up the tempo, Jim, or we won't get it all on there!"

  • @themcewans3165
    @themcewans3165 6 років тому +21

    that tuba guy is intense

  • @thenorthamericanphonograph1039
    @thenorthamericanphonograph1039 8 років тому +11

    The home recorder Mr. Fabris is using is modified with better dampening and diaphragm than stock recorders, but is still a home recorder, none the less. The original Master phonograph recorders for Edison commercial cylinders (Edison Gold Moulded, Amberol and Blue Amberol master records,( Made of a modified brown wax formula.) were Edison Spring motor (Edison Triumph) machines with Triton motors. The master recording Phonographs were equipped with a heavy flywheel, and solid brass mandrel, the center stay bushing removed, so they could shave the master on the main shaft, and replace the same back on the phonograph. The master feed screw for two minute Gold Moulded masters was 97 1/3 TPI, due to shrinkage, of the groove made during the sub mastering steps of making a mother, and working moulds, totaled a little over 2% shrinkage. The four minute masters were recorded with a chain driven 97 1/3 feed screw mounted in back of the top casting This made the four minute master 194.6666 TPI, so during plating and sub masters, the finished record comes out at 200 TPI. I own a working Edison master recording head from the New York Edison studio at 79 fifth avenue, New York. It is a heavy brass recorder with an advance ball, and floating design (see my avatar it is my studio recorder).

    • @gunnarthefeisty
      @gunnarthefeisty 3 роки тому

      you've got to try and get that on a triumph

  • @Lucius1958
    @Lucius1958 11 років тому +7

    Of course, this was recorded on a regular spring-motor phonograph, using a home recorder and a belled horn. For an original studio recording, Edison would have used an electric motor, on a phonograph fitted out with a flywheel, a more complex recorder, and a plain conical horn. The blank would also have been warmed up before recording to make it softer.

    • @sharronneedles6721
      @sharronneedles6721 5 років тому

      Find one of those and give it to them. My point exactly

  • @Borriaudio
    @Borriaudio 12 років тому +7

    You never know how the recording is going to turn out until you play it back, and Phonographs have all kinds of quirks, like the belt stretching or The feed nut not meeting the feed screw, I always try to arrive at a session a few hours previous to set up and test. Oh and you can never have enough recording heads, or reproducers.Good recording anyhow.

  • @bobbobato
    @bobbobato 12 років тому +6

    I wonder if that cylinder recording could be reverse-engineered to sound something more like a modern recording. Maybe if the weaker signals were amplified...

  • @alainrheault6579
    @alainrheault6579 4 роки тому

    Wow !!!!, just wow !!!😃❤❤
    Edison is alive and lives again between us !!! 😊😊😊
    But seriouselly, dear animators and actors of the Edison Historic site, this is a true animation !!! 😉😉😉😉
    Thanks for the sharing
    Truely Edison sprit is alive between us, and proud of you , very proud 😘

  • @tamasmarcuis4455
    @tamasmarcuis4455 6 років тому +3

    There must be some advice from the period because the klezmer recording sound quite a bit better. Positioning of instruments and the size of the room perhaps.

  • @DoojeenDoonican
    @DoojeenDoonican 13 років тому +5

    I agree, but nobody needs to ask the first question in the 21st century - Google will tell you in seconds that it's in East Orange, New Jersey, baby.

    • @stevefish3124
      @stevefish3124 4 роки тому

      False! The Edison Laboratory is in West Orange.

  • @theexploitsofficial7694
    @theexploitsofficial7694 11 років тому +1

    It's a slow-turning screw attached to the recording/pickup head.

  • @LaFemmeKooky
    @LaFemmeKooky 13 років тому +5

    Very cool. Where is this place? Can anyone make a recording???

  • @DeadKoby
    @DeadKoby 3 роки тому +2

    Funny... to this day I don't perform songs that exceed 4 mins, because that's what fits on one side of a 45.

  • @goofyahhslimjackson1942
    @goofyahhslimjackson1942 2 роки тому +2

    I could barley hear the singing in the video before the cylinder

  • @fester73666
    @fester73666 6 місяців тому

    Very enjoyable video 👍👍

  • @passion_flora
    @passion_flora 9 років тому +24

    Geez they could have picked a better room to record in

  • @LygarZro
    @LygarZro 12 років тому +5

    can someone make an mp3 from :12 to 2:16?

  • @AaronM5511
    @AaronM5511 12 років тому +2

    what controls the needle are as it moves along the wax?

    • @wallk03
      @wallk03 2 роки тому +1

      Groves

    • @rotunda57
      @rotunda57 6 місяців тому

      It's on a slow turning threaded rod.

  • @Gustavo-bm3ew
    @Gustavo-bm3ew Рік тому +1

    Ton and Jerry

  • @charlie891
    @charlie891 6 років тому +2

    what is this genre? it's catchy af

    • @DantheToonMan
      @DantheToonMan 4 роки тому +2

      Dixieland Jazz

    • @thardingau
      @thardingau 2 роки тому +1

      @@DantheToonMan i don't think so. Just because you use similar instruments, it doesn't mean that the music will be similar. I'm sorry to be negative, but this band is not very good. Bad input = bad output.

  • @eldabasa
    @eldabasa 7 років тому

    thank u v much

  • @rotunda57
    @rotunda57 6 місяців тому

    2:04 manual blower to remove the cut chips ☺

  • @liviaamandabuontempi8891
    @liviaamandabuontempi8891 3 роки тому

    Sono qui per l'esame di etnomusicologia :)

  • @R166452
    @R166452 12 років тому

    What kind of technical difficulties?

    • @alainrheault6579
      @alainrheault6579 4 роки тому +1

      The horn ingraver ( you must to talk and play loud) the speed of the cylinder and the during of recording (2 minutes maximum) !

  • @DantheToonMan
    @DantheToonMan 4 роки тому +1

    That tuba guy’s loud as freak!

    • @rotunda57
      @rotunda57 7 місяців тому +1

      Tuba is probably the weakest instrument to be recorded on one of these wax recorders. Most of the bands used a bass sax instead which recorded better. Listening to the playback, the tuba isn't too much.

  • @joebennett3937
    @joebennett3937 6 років тому +2

    sound is air, if you can control the air, you control the sound

  • @joyceannlechner6395
    @joyceannlechner6395 2 роки тому

    Wow!

  • @goofyahhslimjackson1942
    @goofyahhslimjackson1942 3 роки тому

    From my possibly false knowledge analog audio degrades at higher volumes. With acoustic machines the volume is very high always. Of course this medium is flawed too.

  • @railhopper4
    @railhopper4 12 років тому

    verry niceee!!

  • @allenschmitz9644
    @allenschmitz9644 6 років тому +1

    Hot wax...lol'...

  • @nicolotarello5596
    @nicolotarello5596 2 роки тому

    etnomusicologia check

  • @dolich
    @dolich 6 років тому

    1:21 estus chugger

  • @brookvalley3249
    @brookvalley3249 8 років тому +1

    Nice excellent awesome wax Machine 👍
    slow auto focus very bad camera used 👎

  • @Discrimination_is_not_a_right
    @Discrimination_is_not_a_right 7 років тому +3

    Well, that sounds like crap.

    • @Laz_Arus
      @Laz_Arus 6 років тому +4

      In its day it was cutting edge technology (pun intended) !

    • @imranazimviolinist
      @imranazimviolinist 6 років тому +2

      No one likes u

    • @HappyDiscoDeath
      @HappyDiscoDeath 5 років тому +3

      Not sure if "Discrimination is not a right" is a wannabe troll, a self-styled "Internet Expert" or idiot. Probably an idiot. Wax cylinder recording technology is not high fidelity or crisp like a modern CD or mp3 file, you uneducated potato.

    • @DantheToonMan
      @DantheToonMan 3 роки тому +2

      Well that tuba guy was a little too close to the phonograph