Hobby Cheating 50 - Basic Greenstuff Techniques
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- Опубліковано 11 вер 2024
- In this Hobby Cheating tutorial, I walk you through the very basics of working with green stuff. The starter tools you need, the way to mix it and some basic shapes to start from to do many simple but effective green stuff tasks. Hope you enjoy!
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I do most of my "flat" work (the stuff you're doing on a mirror) on a sheet of acetate (the transparent sheet we used to use on overhead projectors and so forth). This has similar stick properties to the glass of your mirror; but when the greenstuff is cured I can bend the acetate sheet and peel it away from the finished sculpt. The sheets are tough enough to last (and large enough to offer fresh surface for a very long time); but disposable enough that if I want to take a scalpel to the edges of a piece I'm not concerned about the damage to the substrate.
That is an insanely good idea I can't believe i didn't think of that. I am going to have to order some up!
Glad I could help; it's always good to give a little back.
Another name you might find those types of tools under or know them as is "wax carving tools" since a lot of those designs are used for both activities. I know that if you buy the green stuff from Kneadatite, they do now include a warning on the insert/label about compounds known to cause cancer, but I believe it directed more towards pregnant women and unborn children (I have no idea why, I just remember seeing it on the label of the putty I recently ordered). Also, something to be aware of is that some types of two part epoxy are cumulative toxins; you want to avoid leaving it on your skin, under your nails, etc. once you're done working. I don't think the actual "Green Stuff" falls into that category (though I'm usually cautious anyways) but for people out there working with other brands this is something to keep in mind.
Good note on the carving tools. I would say I am not worried about the warning, I know there are people who work with this stuff daily and if they are okay, then I am good - but my middle name is danger ;)
@@VinceVenturella it's mainly a California warning. They require it on everything
this is actually super helpful thanks for posting this. I'm ashamed to say I'm actually really intimidated by greenstuff but I frickin love converting so I NEED to learn it.
You can do it!
Rolling out. The snake was excellent. Now I know how to get a consistent thickness all the way. Thank you so much for posting.
Glad to help!
Hey Vince Venturella, Thank you for the tips. Good video. I just read the warning on my Kneadatite Blue/Yellow Epoxy Putty tape. Not the same name as GREEN STUFF. But this was the WARNING: This product contains a chemical known to the State of California to cause cancer. So with that said, be careful an wash your hands and I won't be licking my tools. hahaha. Water work just fine. Thanks you :D
Oh yes, it's toxic stuff. :) You certainly don't have to do as I do, but at this point, I think I have eaten enough paint to hang in a museum. In the end, a wet sponge near your tools is really all you need to keep everything moving and prevent sticking.
If you ever notice, in commiefornia, everything causes cancer. I mean literally everything causes cancer. I'm of the belief that when it's our time to go it out time to go.
I live in the People's Republic of California and even the VITAMINS section in some stores here have Prop 65 warnings on the shelves. I have also seen the warning signs at Mcdonald's restaurants. The Problem is Prop 65 was written by lawyers NOT scientists. And then voted into law by snowflakes. So literally even a few molecules of lead in any product means they must provide warnings: The law doesn’t specify about how much of the chemical the product contains to be dangerous. This can be very important when determining how much risk it might pose. They leave it up to the business to judge for themselves. Business will not take any chances of being sued so they often just put the warning up for even the smallest amounts. The saturation of the warning signs and the fact you see them of everyday used products has made the public just ignore the warnings now. Once again the Nanny government here makes things worse by trying to micromanage grown adults instead of just educating them and letting them make up their own minds.
This was a great reminder video for me after taking Joe Orteza’s class on sculpting greenstuff a few years ago! Thank you!
Glad it was helpful!
when in doubt just lick the tool.
thank you for wise wisdom, Vince.
Just do it before you touch the greenstuff. Clean tools only.
Only just watched this now to help me add some extra clothing to a few figures. Very helpful. Thanks.
Always happy to help. ;)
I've heard that parchment paper also works great as a nonstick surface for using green stuff on. The silicone on the parchment paper keeps it from sticking to it. It's also the best way to roll out green stuff in flat sheets.
Interesting, I will have to test that out. :)
Haha at 4:32 where acutrament suddenly becomes the most French word in the world 😂 I died.
I love over pronouncing things like that, always good for fun. :) (Just wait until I start naming Italian cheeses).
@@VinceVenturella Started my 1st Warhammer miniature army today, and decided to try my hand at sculpting... Just the frame plastic the pieces came in haha. Check it out, kinda proud.
imgur.com/gallery/3q4EolM Definitely gotta get some green stuff though.
I suck paint as much as the next guy, but all the finger and tool sucking in this video made me a bit anxious. I understand epoxies are on a another level of toxicity. *shudders* Triggering aside, great stuff! I'm trying to do things with greenstuff and most videous out there are either basic handling tips or "sculpt the David in 50 easy steps"... this hits the right spot for me, as usual
Awesome, that was the goal, something that was a step beyond basics, but still achievable. :)
Great tips Vince
Thank you sir, much appreciated.
I remember a rumor from I don't know some odd 10 years ago when I first bought my first green stuff that it might cause cancer if used to much. Ever hear that? Does it stretch when you take it off the mirror, or are you letting it dry to the point where it isn't stretchy anymore?
I have never heard that and if that were true, there would be many dead sculptors out there since many still work purely in green stuff. You don't take it off the mirror until it is completely dry, like the next day at the earliest.
Haha, it never even occurred to me that the product as is wasn’t green
I bought a hard clayshaper, I like it alot
Hey Vince, Could you do a Hobby Cheating on thinning GW, and other paints for Airbrush use what types of medium you recommend so on...etc...
Sure, that is a great idea for a video, I will add that to the list ;)
They are sold as clay shaping tools or Dentist tools on ebay.
Good shout! Much appreciated. :)
Using a mirror is brilliant.
Thanks buddy, it's so wonderful to work, as you don't have to deal with anything sticking.
Can greenstuff be sanded, once it is fully cured, to buff out imperfections or further manipulate the object's shape?
It can, thought it's somewhat gummy, it doesn't sand super well. Something like Milliput will sand better.
Probably better to cut excess off and then apply another layer of greenstuff to the base layer and shape it the way you want before it sets.
Useful as usual, thanks!
Excellent, happy to help as always. :)
Does Green Stuff stick to resin models? I wanted to fix some broken-off pieces and I tried two different brands of two-part epoxy yesterday (one from HD, the other was Apoxie Sculpt) but both slid right of my 3D-printed resin models and would not stick at all. Is there a trick to it or is Green Stuff special in that regard?
It could be that the resin wasn't fully cleaned, that could cause it to slide off, it should generally stick to normal resin. That being said, you could always put a thin layer of milliput down, then put the green stuff over top, the milliput is rougher and might stick better.
@@VinceVenturella Thank you. I might have to look into Milliput and green stuff then. The model should be clean but I'll try it after a quick rub with alcohol next time.
I use gloves with a little Vaseline on them to stop it sticking when kneeding
Good call, that's a nice trick, I will have to give that a try.
I don't like to lick the tool, but not because it's gross, but rather due to the epoxy being toxic. I use a pea-sized amount of pure Vaseline out of a tube, and water.
Totally fair, I should state I'm generally licking the clean tool. I don't love vaseline as it then becomes clean-up, but to each their own as always for sure.
I bought a cheap set of sculpting tools on Amazon. They work great
Yeah, one of the best investments I've made for sure.
I was always told that, when it was in two strips, to remove the middle bit as the strips were glued together and the glue would leave chunks in the green stuff. Is that true? Or an urban myth?
I think that is mostly an urban myth. It might have been true at some time, but now if it's there, it's so inconsequential as to be a non-issue. I just mix it straight and if there is ever an imperfection, I just pull it out.
Good to know! I will be using a lot of greenstuff in the near future...
I have experienced this, but only when I've left a strip without using it for a very long time.
The two strips aren't actually glued together; but the join between them is a place where the two parts of the epoxy are in contact with each other - this means that they mix slightly along this line and do what you might expect epoxy to do when it's mixed. The effect is slow; but it can take a long time for the putty to get from the Kneadatite factory to you so it can be present even in brand new tape - if you have it in stock for a while it's more noticable. I have tape old enough to have a noticable hardened centre perhaps 1/32 thick; but pinch that out and the rest of the tape is still perfectly viable.
You can slow the chemical reaction by reducing the temperature - which is why some sculptors suggest keeping your putty in the freezer.
so much inuendo
It's hard to avoid when you are talking about tools... ;)
You sound like another you tuber I follow... Is this your only channel?
This is the only channel. :)
And you get it off the mirror how?
That's the wonderful part. Once it's dry, it will just slide right off. It can't actually adhere to the glass once it's set, so you can literally just pick it off, no fuss, no muss.
Don't lick your tools. get a small dish of water nearby.
I would like to see how you fill cracks on mintures with green stuff.
Yep, I am going to do a video about late stage gap filling at some point soon.
Yaay Grrenstuff is to modeling as Bondo is to auto body
It's a good analogy for sure. ;)
Actually putty like green stuff was made for the plumbing industry. If you look in the plumbing section of a hardware store they sell products that are just like this. These putty's are also a lot cheaper.
I had to watch 4 unskippable adds....a little much lol
Sorry about that, I don't have the choice on that, that's all UA-cam, but that's never fun.
{❗} After Vince's 'HOW TO SCULP CAPES' Video, I hear tell he's go a follow-up " coming out titled:
'HOW TO SCULPT INSANE-AWESOME *_APRON§'_* ❣
Now there is a video.