Before (and After) Trans Was Cool | with Dr. Az Hakeem

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  • Dr. Az Hakeem discusses his years working as a psychologist with sexual deviants and the gender-distressed. Cool guy! Give him a follow and his book a read:
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КОМЕНТАРІ • 411

  • @NinjaKittyBonks
    @NinjaKittyBonks 10 місяців тому +177

    After all of these calmversations, I still ask myself... "How in the HELL did we get here?". How soft is the West to allow all this?

    • @teledoink
      @teledoink 10 місяців тому +19

      Well it all started with Judith Butler and Michel Foucault, Saul Alinsky, and Simone de Beouviour. Then the language of “You’re going to unalive (thanks UA-cam for making me sound like a weirdo) us if you don’t affirm us!” was borrowed from the highly successful ActUp. People give too much credit to Stonewall. ActUp was much more activist led.

    • @helenablavatsky9136
      @helenablavatsky9136 10 місяців тому +12

      Ever listen to Douglas Murray, kitty?

    • @Engrave.Danger
      @Engrave.Danger 10 місяців тому

      ​@@helenablavatsky9136Douglas is fantastic.

    • @annbrown3037
      @annbrown3037 10 місяців тому +25

      We just weren't paying attention : busy with our own lives, holidays, booze & telly. For decades. Anyone trying to raise awareness were tin-foil-hatters and thereby 'advisedly' ridiculed and ignored. It's easy to creep up on people who are avidly engaged in naval gazing.

    • @teledoink
      @teledoink 10 місяців тому +42

      @@annbrown3037 I went to art college in San Francisco in the 90s, so I was fully aware of these ideas, and completely entrenched in them. But when I got my first job in an office and nobody was talking about gender and race intersectionality or postmodern philosophy I then assumed I had learned a bunch of ideology that was very much never going to leave the very far left academic world. So I was genuinely shocked when, twenty years later, this stuff reared its ugly head again. I really was so glad to leave all of those people and beliefs behind, after going through the painful process of having to unlearn it all in order to sustain a job. I can’t tell you how sickening it is that I have to deal with all of this again.

  • @impossiblenamechoice
    @impossiblenamechoice 9 місяців тому +73

    I’ve long said that NB is the new goth. As a former goth it’s transparent that this is a teenage sub-culture. You’re going to have passionate adherents to the identity.

    • @sarahhale-pearson533
      @sarahhale-pearson533 9 місяців тому +13

      As a former goth, who grew out of it, like most do…. How is this NB bs going to pan out. These kids have exposed their foolishness on the internet, gone all-in, mutilated themselves…. Growing up is going to be extra painful.

    • @9395gb
      @9395gb 9 місяців тому +7

      ​@@sarahhale-pearson533I would think it would be difficult to get a relationship, a job or even have a stable personal life if you were full time living as a goth, emo, hip hop, grunge or NB. People grow out it when they become adults and want real jobs, families, and healthy home lives.

    • @CorporateQueen
      @CorporateQueen 9 місяців тому +1

      I thought it more Punk..

    • @jpiccone1
      @jpiccone1 9 місяців тому +3

      The inevitable septum piercing and blue hair was the first clue.

    • @outoforbit00
      @outoforbit00 8 місяців тому +1

      Yes, these subcultures come about in societies that are loosing their foundation, the parents give the child no solid ground on which to stand. The West was exclusively Catholic once, and that's where are now rapidly unravelling civilisation came from. Subcultures were always tribal and the tribal goes back to pre-civilisation. I grew up in a very strong Catholic culture, I honestly never felt a need to wonder and question who I was. And I certainly would never have thought that all these years later, we are encouraged to reduce our identity to pure material biology.

  • @kingclover1395
    @kingclover1395 9 місяців тому +60

    It was well understood years ago that transitioning was only for a very small number of people, and there were very strict requirements you had to meet in order to have it. You couldn't have surgery on demand like it is now. I believe that all of this was correct. There are many trans people that I've known for over 30 years, and even they have a problem with the sudden proliferation of young people being transitioned today. Several of them have never even had the surgery themselves because they knew that it wasn't for them. I'm gay myself and I can tell you that it is very common for certain gay teenagers to develop a temporary fascination with being trans, but by the time they reach their late teens they are perfectly comfortable with their own body, and look back on those days with a kind of embarrassment as just a phase they went through as teens. Yet we never hear about any of this in all the discussion taking place today, even though it used to be well understood.

    • @jhmvjhvg
      @jhmvjhvg 9 місяців тому +6

      Can confirm. Also gay.

    • @stanrix
      @stanrix 9 місяців тому +3

      Back when I was a young man, we didn’t even call it trans. We just dressed as drag queens

    • @barboglesby2162
      @barboglesby2162 9 місяців тому +5

      I wish your community would speak out about this teenage phase more. The straight population really is unaware of this temporary phase for Gay boys. Is it true for Lesbians too, do you know?
      I hope the LBGTQ Community comes forward with the truth about this, rather than letting the militants dominate the message to promote harmful sex change surgeries.

    • @ixlnxs
      @ixlnxs 9 місяців тому

      @@barboglesby2162 The LGB community says it all the time: Transing kids is the new gay conversion therapy. Transing kids is wrong. But the straight community calls us transphobic for it.

    • @souxcasa
      @souxcasa 9 місяців тому

      ​@@barboglesby2162most of the lesbians I know had a boy phase. Most lesbians are gender non confirming which these days is seen as evidence of a trans identity which is nonsense

  • @ilfautdanser9121
    @ilfautdanser9121 10 місяців тому +33

    Excellent and Insightful interview. His explanation of trans as a youth subculture is fascinating.

    • @wolfhugs2221
      @wolfhugs2221 9 місяців тому +2

      That bit makes a lot of sense.

  • @AndyJarman
    @AndyJarman 10 місяців тому +36

    In a lot of Australia, Canada, New Zealand and the US it is illegal to provide children with the therapy this guy provides

    • @MorePlausible
      @MorePlausible 9 місяців тому +4

      Thank goodness for Zoom therapy.

    • @BrittishCats
      @BrittishCats 9 місяців тому +4

      Norway too since yesterday.

    • @souxcasa
      @souxcasa 9 місяців тому

      Under the guise that it is "conversion therapy". When transing young gay kids is the real conversion therapy

  • @northwestcarpenter
    @northwestcarpenter 10 місяців тому +22

    Yet another sane human being….amazing! Where do you find them Benjamin?

  • @megsley
    @megsley 10 місяців тому +177

    my only problem with what dr. az said is "if doesnt hurt anyone why is it a big deal?"
    well just because someone walking their partner on a dog chain at the grocery store doesnt technically cause "harm" doesnt make it ok. bringing your fetish into the public space means you are involving strangers in your weird sex stuff WITHOUT THEIR CONSENT.

    • @Gingerblaze
      @Gingerblaze 10 місяців тому +24

      Boiling it down to only "consent" as a barrier misses many other issues.

    • @megsley
      @megsley 10 місяців тому +17

      ​@@Gingerblaze true, but consent was the first thing that popped into my mind when he was dancing around answering definitively.

    • @jeffreyscott4997
      @jeffreyscott4997 10 місяців тому +26

      Fundamentally, to say that somebody else's behavior isn't your business because it doesn't "harm" anyone - well, at least, not anybody else - is to presuppose that other people's well being (physically or psychologically) is radically disconnected from other people. We all have an interest in living in a society of generally well-adjusted people capable of exercising well their ability to live a good life. While we all equally are facing the question of just what that consists of (and thus, should leave each other free to make the endeavor each ourselves), that does not mean we only have an interest in one's own self getting the question right.

    • @Gingerblaze
      @Gingerblaze 10 місяців тому +25

      Also, he neglects how perversions often hurt the person themself, who have these "orientations" or paraphilias or fetishes.
      And how it impacts those who love them.

    • @Gingerblaze
      @Gingerblaze 10 місяців тому +14

      @@megsley I hear ya. It is the issue being pushed most in popular conversation around sex in general but it is really the bare minimum and stops people recognizing the effect of coercion and that horrible things being done under the concept of consent alone, can lead to extrordinarily horrifying outcomes.

  • @t-timewithartemis4174
    @t-timewithartemis4174 9 місяців тому +14

    The way that Dr. Hakeem guides the introspective process for his clients in therapy is exactly what I've found to be most successful with my own clients in their gender exploration. It's showing GENUINE curiosity, not starting off with assumptions and attempt to change someone; the client can usually feel this difference and makes the relationship and dialogue even more productive. It's a genuine cooperative exploration versus setting up an adversarial dynamic, and allows the patient the power of experiencing the logic and arriving at the solution themselves, where the skill and knowledge are more likely to stick.

  • @chloedemure
    @chloedemure 9 місяців тому +15

    You can take the person out of Goth but not Goth out of the person. What a great interview! Will check out his book. Gen x rules ❤

  • @kayoss2306
    @kayoss2306 10 місяців тому +20

    As a former Goth myself, I think Dr Akeem is very cool 😂❤
    Very interesting conversation!

    • @annbest881
      @annbest881 10 місяців тому +4

      Oh; you must be able to explain all his skull jewelry then - I found it very distracting and odd! Is there a certain message I’m supposed to be getting from it?

    • @Gingerblaze
      @Gingerblaze 9 місяців тому +1

      @@annbest881 memento mori?

  • @cestmoi4532
    @cestmoi4532 10 місяців тому +41

    "They're lovely, hardworking people who want to get better." What a nice way to speak about your patients. ❤ Thank you for this conversation. 💛

    • @jcimsn8464
      @jcimsn8464 9 місяців тому +4

      They need understanding and compassion. They didn't choose this. Maybe less trans widows and harmed families if we start to get that this is some peoples reality.

    • @kerriecraven6644
      @kerriecraven6644 9 місяців тому +4

      People should tell the people they are marrying or having kids with what their reality looks like. Lying about it makes trans widows and broken families much more likely.

  • @cianmoriarty7345
    @cianmoriarty7345 9 місяців тому +12

    Telling your kids they can be anything is a corrosive idea that can and will destroy them as they break themselves on an ideal they can never attain.

    • @christopherkucia1071
      @christopherkucia1071 5 місяців тому

      I became an artistic addict who to this day still struggles with some substances and procrastination/playing video games too long. At 27 years olds
      Doing ALOT better now, but the world is much more boring and annoying now as I don’t partake in as much as what I “want” and do more of what I don’t feel like or don’t want to do.

  • @annal2740
    @annal2740 10 місяців тому +15

    Love this guy. What a breath of fresh air.

  • @AndyJarman
    @AndyJarman 10 місяців тому +9

    The problem with Goth 5.0 is the teachers at school, the newsreaders and the medical profession supply your fanzines, heroes and adventure narratives.

  • @lisasalamonecoaching
    @lisasalamonecoaching 10 місяців тому +18

    Agree. Coaching a group of clients vs 1:1 can be powerful experience for the individual as they are removed from the “hot seat” and are better able to observe similar thoughts, feelings and behaviors in others like them.
    My mantra is “It’s not about gender.”

    • @Gingerblaze
      @Gingerblaze 10 місяців тому

      Have you noticed some coming to self awareness via exposure to others with the same conditions on the internet?

    • @lisasalamonecoaching
      @lisasalamonecoaching 10 місяців тому +6

      @@Gingerblaze I’ve seen it with detransitioners in group coaching. It’s eye opening for them to see they are not alone in their thoughts and feelings and that some of their prior and current thinking have been distorted and unhelpful.

  • @lanettemackey9927
    @lanettemackey9927 8 місяців тому +3

    As a grandmother of a child not yet in the public school system I have found myself concerned him wanting to learn more about this topic. I've been researching and watching a lot of UA-cam and this is providing me with the best insight and education ever. I will buy Dr. Hakeem's book!

  • @annarboriter
    @annarboriter 10 місяців тому +6

    Outstanding work to have highlighted the good Dr's sensible interpretation of the latest iteration of social contagions

  • @robinthrush9672
    @robinthrush9672 10 місяців тому +22

    I know an asexual guy. He's in my D&D group and he doesn't really understand why we make sex jokes or what's so funny about innuendo/double entendres.

    • @realMaverickBuckley
      @realMaverickBuckley 10 місяців тому +2

      I often wonder if people who have a mid term si say a few years of a huge lack of libido, consider themselves Asexual

    • @MiddlePath33
      @MiddlePath33 9 місяців тому

      Autistic people have this issue

  • @Bombbashable
    @Bombbashable 9 місяців тому +4

    I was a goth too and I have always said the gender thing is a sub culture! It is so obvious if you were part of one.

  • @digitaltango
    @digitaltango 8 місяців тому +2

    This is one of the best interviews I have seen on this subject! Trans is the new Goth.

  • @lorinsmall5403
    @lorinsmall5403 9 місяців тому +2

    Fantastic interview!

  • @silentvoice4970
    @silentvoice4970 9 місяців тому +5

    26:00 Gender Critical predates the trans debate. It's original meaning was to be critical of the roles and presentation assigned to the sexes. It was in use by Radical Feminists since the 1960's.

  • @karentracey9948
    @karentracey9948 9 місяців тому +3

    Another voice of reason. Excellent video mate!

  • @Jennifer-mv9pg
    @Jennifer-mv9pg 8 місяців тому +1

    Breath of fresh air! Thank you for introducing me to this intellectual voice of reason. Perfectly explains what has happened to our culture

  • @markcounseling
    @markcounseling 10 місяців тому +10

    So I got here late. Does he talk about the silver skull rings and the bracelet?

  • @NickyM_0
    @NickyM_0 10 місяців тому +3

    Really enjoyed this interview/discussion.

  • @noah1502
    @noah1502 9 місяців тому +4

    the discussion about sexualities at ~14minutes in is SO important. not only do fetishes exist, but CONCEPT sexualities exist. we are a highly social species and concepts highly highly affect who we are attracted to and when.

  • @jacquesd5781
    @jacquesd5781 10 місяців тому +4

    Awesome interview!!!

  • @ebert8756
    @ebert8756 9 місяців тому +2

    Kuckoo syndrome, what an analogy! They T is killing off the LGB 😢

  • @thepragmatist
    @thepragmatist 9 місяців тому +4

    That's a great idea to have a group of pre transition gender ideologues mixed in with detransitioners!

  • @sctrh2
    @sctrh2 8 місяців тому +2

    I've been saying this for years, that this has replaced the youth music movements of "yore".
    Most sensible, balanced conversation I've heard on the subject from men. About time it wasn't just the GC gems talking about it!

    • @AshleyWilliams-xq7lj
      @AshleyWilliams-xq7lj 8 місяців тому +1

      I've been saying the same thing too. When I was growing up, there were goths, scene kids, metalheads, white hip hop fans (pejoratively called "wiggers" back then lol.) Those cliques don't really exist anymore. Some kids are more preppy or alt, but it's just slight variations of the same style from TikTok. And they listen to whatever is currently trendy, which is all pop, hip hop or a blend of both.
      People always reply "What about Billie Eilish?" Or that other chick that I can't remember the name of. Something Rodriguez? They're the same slight variation of fashion and pop music that I mentioned before.

  • @cuteanimalseverywhere7620
    @cuteanimalseverywhere7620 9 місяців тому +4

    The section about sexuality in autism fits so well with Sheldon on Big Bang Theory.

  • @Main.Account
    @Main.Account 10 місяців тому +4

    Fascinating. Will be getting the book.

  • @MichaelScottPerkins
    @MichaelScottPerkins 8 місяців тому +2

    HEADS UP to anyone interested. @20:52 he mentions a Biography about Denis Nielsen... but he gives the wrong title. The book is called, "History of a Drowning Boy: The Autobiography"... Not "Drowning by Numbers". This is a film from the 1990s.

  • @dawnwatson9410
    @dawnwatson9410 3 місяці тому

    Thank you from the bottom of my heart

  • @EdFurlong-n5u
    @EdFurlong-n5u 9 місяців тому +9

    If I heard him correctly he no longer sees patients with gender issues. It seems like if he doesn’t see patients then he might miss out on changes in why people come out as trans.
    For instance, I don’t know how much he touched on the social contagion aspect. I personally have seen one person in a friend group come out as trans, random people tell them how proud they are of them and how brave they are. Pretty soon the entire friend group identifies as trans.
    There’s also a community aspect to it. If you’re trans you have basically an instant connection and level of trust with anyone else that’s trans. You have a community that supports you.
    For people that are outcasts, suddenly they become the center of attention and have an easy way to make friends where ever they go.
    I think it’s also gives them a goal in life. They pick a new name, get new clothes, get on hormones, get top surgery, get bottom surgery. Doesn’t matter if they don’t work, go to school, clean their apartment, transitioning is their one and only goal, nothing else matters. They might spend their time obsessing over transitioning, constantly trying new looks to see if they pass. There is no doubt about transitioning, it becomes an obsession.
    Even if they get pushback from people, that just emboldens them further. It’s proof to them they are being oppressed. They’re no longer part of the inherently racist and sexist white majority. Negative attention is still attention.
    Maybe all of that is in current research or maybe it’s something you would only see if you were interacting with people claiming to be trans. It goes along with this idea about who is the most open minded. Like being poly amorous is being enlightened, being gender fluid is enlightened, being bi/multi sexual is enlightened. I’ve actually heard people say something like “oh they’re straight, well they’re born that way, they can’t help it”.
    People are trying to be more special than the next person. Trans, poly, gender fluid, wiling to date anyone, disabilities, (DID, EDS, POTS, autism, ADHD, etc) who is seeing the most doctors? Who is on the most medications?
    I think we are headed into uncharted territory. And guess what, when you have no job you can spend 12 hours a day looking up disorders. You can figure out exactly what to say to get a diagnosis for just about anything. You can say you have always felt dysphoric and were too afraid to tell anyone. You can say you have amnesia, you hear voices, you see things. Point being, someone convinces themself they have DID and need a wheelchair, what other delusions have they convinces themselves of? How do you reason with someone with an obsession that completely defines their every waking moment? It’s their identity, their friend group, gets them attention, makes them feel special. Without the trans identity they can no longer use that as an excuse for failure in life, they have to face their true issues, they have to figure out who they are as a person and not worry about how society sees them.
    That’s why I think there’s more to the gender issues than what was going on in the past. You don’t have people transitioning for the same reasons as before.

    • @TheJan5
      @TheJan5 9 місяців тому +4

      He did go into trans as the new generational sub culture. It's a Fad that will leave behind it regrets and broken people like a lot of sub cultures before it have. This one just has the medical and corporate enterprise getting involved.

    • @EdFurlong-n5u
      @EdFurlong-n5u 9 місяців тому +1

      @@TheJan5 He went into it but if he’s no longer seeing patients for gender issues then I wonder how knowledgeable he will be about the changing gender landscape. He seems pretty knowledgeable about gender issues (at least up until the car litter box comment), and that knowledge seems to come from first hand experience with people with gender issues. Like how he said he had a mixed group of people wanting to transition and regretting transition, that’s first hand experience. I just wonder if he’s now just doing interviews and writing books, whether his knowledge on the subject will be lacking. I think part of the issue with gender issues is the medical field isn’t keeping speed with the social changes. The “only affirm” model isn’t working. There needs to be work on how to get people absolutely obsessed with transitioning on why they should be more cautious.

    • @westcoastmex629
      @westcoastmex629 9 місяців тому +1

      Sounds like it evolves from a self dislike / need of to be accepted ,to an obsesión and finally to an addiction which one feel he can’t live without .its like weed or other drug users it becomes all about the drug chasing the high which in reality is just a patch to cover up the real issues that some times can be extremely harmful.

    • @patchoulidance
      @patchoulidance 9 місяців тому

      @user-bz2gz8yd3c he explained why he doesn't see them anymore at 50:19

    • @westcoastmex629
      @westcoastmex629 9 місяців тому

      Yeah they are pretty nuts man 😅

  • @ebert8756
    @ebert8756 9 місяців тому +6

    The part where he explains the work of a good therapist and aays that affirmation therapy is merely grooming and collusion😮
    He speaks so much sense and from such a clear position of experience and expertise.

  • @wodanbruel
    @wodanbruel 10 місяців тому +1

    Great conversation, and very insightful. Thank you Benjamin and dr Hakeem

  • @annashaw858
    @annashaw858 9 місяців тому

    What an amazing conversation! Dr Hakeem thank you for your insights and efforts in grounding this agenda back to the realms of reality

  • @Guy-lo3ld
    @Guy-lo3ld 10 місяців тому +6

    Your guest has very interesting theories on gender and sexuality. I like how he attempts to maintain a neutral stance and not allow critical social justice discourse to censor his thinking.

    • @anomietoponymie2140
      @anomietoponymie2140 10 місяців тому

      I got the feeling his backyard and hard disks are full of things that make him a bad choice for a mate.

    • @annal2740
      @annal2740 10 місяців тому +1

      @@anomietoponymie2140 Yours on the other hand...🤣

  • @lilja4ever261
    @lilja4ever261 10 місяців тому +5

    Interesting stuff, esp. about the link between trauma and sexual fetisism. And I loved his rings too!

  • @MelissaKnoxwriter
    @MelissaKnoxwriter 9 місяців тому +2

    Fascinating--a real thinker who grapples with the many complexities of gender dysphoria.

  • @Earthmuffin78
    @Earthmuffin78 10 місяців тому +3

    Super interesting discussion

  • @wolfhugs2221
    @wolfhugs2221 9 місяців тому +4

    6:35 I've felt from the start that the trans movement is simply the new form of homophobia.

  • @jennybardoville5455
    @jennybardoville5455 6 місяців тому +1

    The cat litter tray story has been denied in Jon Ronson's podcast recently.
    We have to be careful about what we're willing to believe in this confusion

  • @miroirs-jumeaux
    @miroirs-jumeaux 10 місяців тому +17

    Eight eyes on the prize - thanks for the calmversation, guys.
    (Do people ever get mocked for wearing glasses anymore, or has the need for corrective lenses expanded to so many people that we can't be _othered_ for it anymore?)

  • @cyberspelunker1980
    @cyberspelunker1980 5 місяців тому +1

    I too am glad that my “rebellion” phase was just goth and not cutting my breasts off or permanently altering my body.

  • @karentonks7581
    @karentonks7581 5 місяців тому +2

    Dennis neilson, The drowning boy ...it was his grandfather.

  • @w00tbassman
    @w00tbassman 10 місяців тому +1

    Great interview BaB. Yer an interview artist. Az is a sage!

  • @MarvyVhet
    @MarvyVhet 8 місяців тому +1

    Finally- only half way though video- a good explanation on autism spectrum and gender confusion

  • @thinkingoutloud7425
    @thinkingoutloud7425 10 місяців тому +13

    Dr Hakeem..brilliant....

    • @teledoink
      @teledoink 10 місяців тому +1

      Kind of. But he brought up the cat gender thing where supposedly a kid required a litter box at school, and they ended up being a made up story that someone created to troll people with. Now I find anyone who’s still telling that story to be suspect. Either unaware or willfully dishonest

    • @katelockdown4355
      @katelockdown4355 10 місяців тому +3

      Do you think there's only been one report of cat gender? There's been many, so one being false doesn't mean the others are 🤷‍♀️

  • @jeffswingdancer8302
    @jeffswingdancer8302 8 місяців тому +1

    This was one of the most informative interviews I have ever seen. How can so many people suspend common sense and believe acknowledging biological sex is hateful, banning therapy for confused children, promoting off-label use of drugs (puberty blockers) & surgery for minors is appropriate? It's actually child abuse. On top of that we're expected to tolerate living in a climate of fear.

  • @dreimalnein22
    @dreimalnein22 10 місяців тому +2

    Oooh I love you guys!

  • @coremattersyogaflow5160
    @coremattersyogaflow5160 8 місяців тому

    I look forward to reading this amazing man's book just ordered from Amazon.

  • @mathelga
    @mathelga 7 місяців тому

    Excellent interview. Thanks

  • @zo1dberg
    @zo1dberg 9 місяців тому

    Amazing interview. This guy really joins the dots.

  • @joparker8325
    @joparker8325 9 місяців тому +1

    Whoop! Dr Az 😊 he's just so great isn't he.

  • @collyernicholasjohn
    @collyernicholasjohn 9 місяців тому +5

    12 months jail here in Queensland for therapists who don’t affirm the trans delusion.😢

  • @mottgirl13
    @mottgirl13 9 місяців тому +1

    The new goth. Makes sense! Thanks Dr Az!

  • @helenromanelli2544
    @helenromanelli2544 8 місяців тому +3

    Besides homophobia, there is the very clear profit motive--gotta have new folks in the pipeline at all times to keep that money machine fed...

  • @magdalenawestman6285
    @magdalenawestman6285 9 місяців тому +1

    Great talk!

  • @janinegriffiths8281
    @janinegriffiths8281 9 місяців тому

    Great insights and conversation.

  • @liberality
    @liberality 10 місяців тому +6

    Dr Hakeem appears to be suggesting that transgender presentation is a symptom, not a singular syndrome. If so, a singular pathway for trans-affirming care is highly unlikely to provide consistent results.

    • @nickbarber2080
      @nickbarber2080 9 місяців тому +2

      Yes...but it is being pushed hard by a number of various groups with vested interests.
      The pressure in the UK is to outlaw exploratory therapy,making the untangling of this complex field impossible,on pain of convicton in court.
      No wonder he says that many of his colleagues walk away when a client strays into gender territory...I would as well....

    • @liberality
      @liberality 9 місяців тому +1

      @@nickbarber2080 I fully agree. If I had free time, I would consider volunteering as a counsellor, but I don't want to go to be prosecuted for it.

    • @sharonmontano4924
      @sharonmontano4924 9 місяців тому

      Initial comment is begging the question

    • @liberality
      @liberality 9 місяців тому

      @@sharonmontano4924 I did say "If so". Several reasons for transgender presentation have been identified by transgender people themselves.

  • @oldtrowt
    @oldtrowt 10 місяців тому +2

    Great stuff and he is from the UK.

  • @morganhowie6927
    @morganhowie6927 10 місяців тому +41

    “There’s this really stupid discourse about a guy and a dress”…
    It’s not a stupid discourse. He has admitted it’s a sexual kink at least some of the time so he shouldn’t be imposing his potential kink on un-consenting people.
    Ben, you’ve already obviously made up your mind on this and are so dismissive of the genuine concerns people have raised.
    Also, a sexual link is not a sexual orientation. Conflating the two is absolutely disingenuous.

    • @lexilang5011
      @lexilang5011 10 місяців тому

      Totally agree.

    • @sketchvibes4902
      @sketchvibes4902 10 місяців тому +3

      It’s not a stupid discourse but unless we impose sexed dress codes on everyone we can’t do anything about how anyone dresses. I think you can shame them or make fun of them or whatever else but you can’t compel gender confirming clothing choices. I think that’s why it’s “stupid.”

    • @ACHU-DETE
      @ACHU-DETE 9 місяців тому +3

      @@sketchvibes4902 Reducing it to the article of clothing being worn is a reductionist and insincere abstraction, the core issue is public displays of your own fetishistic manifestations, not the clothes you wear. In this case it just happens that their fetish manifests in the clothing they wear and creates a predatory situation in public situations, especially when children are present.
      I wouldn't want someone taking pictures and oogling people's feet in front of my family because that's not only sexual in nature but abbhorent fetishism, just like the dress wearer (in this specific scenario)

    • @jcimsn8464
      @jcimsn8464 9 місяців тому +1

      I think you need a much deeper understanding of autogynephilic and its complexities and subtypes. Real people live with this and real people can tell you about their experience. It is like a sexual orientation and if you understood it better would be less phobic. You want them to stay in the closet. Just say that.

    • @morganhowie6927
      @morganhowie6927 9 місяців тому +12

      I want them to stay in the closet.
      I don’t need to more deeply understand AGP’s. AGP’s need to keep their damn fetish out of public and put it back in private.

  • @yvonneburns2786
    @yvonneburns2786 9 місяців тому +3

    Not a religion more of a cult.. in the darkest sense of.

  • @TheVigilantEye77
    @TheVigilantEye77 6 місяців тому

    MASSIVE malpractice! Lawsuits to follow 😂

  • @jjphoenix4055
    @jjphoenix4055 9 місяців тому

    This proves humanity is lost completely. Things are a lot simpler than all that.

  • @phyllislovelace8151
    @phyllislovelace8151 9 місяців тому

    Thank you gentlemen

  • @alexarvanitis4331
    @alexarvanitis4331 9 місяців тому +1

    I didnt know that Dr. Hakeem was a glam goth dad! 😍

  • @jennybardoville5455
    @jennybardoville5455 6 місяців тому

    Perhaps, like stonewall, the Tavistock needed new stock when they realised there's nothing pathological about being gay.
    Someone needing only time to accept themselves and not treatment or surgery is not a lifelong customer

  • @georginawhitby1320
    @georginawhitby1320 10 місяців тому +1

    Absolute legend . Thank you.

  • @Gingerblaze
    @Gingerblaze 10 місяців тому +5

    There appears to be a fair number of hsts who are also agp and vice versa. It seems to get missed a lot, once a dominant form is recognized.

  • @ameliahamilton8637
    @ameliahamilton8637 9 місяців тому

    I love hearing you say this. In 2017 when my daughter told me she was a they (in middle school), i tuned in to figure out wtf that meant, and started seeing that all of her friends also were also saying they were they's. The first thing i said after understanding was, "Ooooooh! Trans is the new goth!"

  • @irenalovesart4064
    @irenalovesart4064 10 місяців тому +6

    💯 its a subculture (says ex goth) most of my friends have 20 holes up each ear where their piercings were lol

  • @TheRisky9
    @TheRisky9 9 місяців тому +1

    His book is free with Kindle Unlimited. And I'm reading it now to try and understand many of the trans people I've come to associate with and some I even consider friends. (It's sort of a thing with martial arts.) I've often wondered if there were men who transition because they find women and the idea of being around women less intimidating.

  • @Eatzbugs
    @Eatzbugs 9 місяців тому +2

    Social contagion. Nuff said.

  • @writeisright5948
    @writeisright5948 9 місяців тому +2

    Bought the book.

  • @DH-ce8iv
    @DH-ce8iv 4 дні тому

    Dr Az Hakeem caused me pssd (post ssri sexual dysfunction). He prescribed me sertralline and I asked him did this medication have any sexual side affects and he said they have none. When I started taking sertralline I came back to him complaining about low libido and erectile dysfunction and he said they shouldn't be causing me those symptoms and perscribed me viagra. Even though I have been off the medication for 3 years I still suffer from erectile dysfunction and diminished libido and numbness from sertralline. This man has ruined my life and is a liar, he should not be trusted.

  • @cindyjo9093
    @cindyjo9093 4 місяці тому

    "I saw them an hour to an hour and a half per week, so I knew them inside out." 😅 For real?

  • @Cladina_Green
    @Cladina_Green 10 місяців тому +4

    Shape is not tryna be a "she" I don't think. He's now a very feminine man. That's ok. You can say "he". His lawyer says "he".

  • @ESkengman
    @ESkengman 10 місяців тому +1

    I NEED to know where he got his skull rings!! Please ask? 🙏🙏🙏

  • @ebert8756
    @ebert8756 9 місяців тому

    13:00 what a great question ❤

  • @intensepassion3382
    @intensepassion3382 9 місяців тому

    Let's turn more discussion to "turning out to be gay...". Discuss this more, as it maybe a creation.

  • @waynemcauliffe-fv5yf
    @waynemcauliffe-fv5yf 10 місяців тому +1

    Thank fuck i`m a straight old Aussie male who grew up in the old times

    • @alongsleep
      @alongsleep 10 місяців тому

      It's that irresponsible, childish attitude that lead us here. A younger Aussie.

    • @waynemcauliffe-fv5yf
      @waynemcauliffe-fv5yf 10 місяців тому

      No fucking way. We new our sex in the old days. Would never of swallowed the bullshit you lot do
      @@alongsleep

  • @GhislaineGendron
    @GhislaineGendron 9 місяців тому

    Love the cats !

  • @uncleskipsprairiejustice9367
    @uncleskipsprairiejustice9367 9 місяців тому +1

    actually, I read that the cat/kitty litter story was debunked.

  • @ebert8756
    @ebert8756 9 місяців тому

    Az hakeem was on the cutting edge and didn't know it

  • @K10House
    @K10House 10 місяців тому +5

    As always, super interesting and thought provoking. Thank you! Also... um... in your opinion, are intellectuals just crap at drinking water or is it something else? The gray under-eye circles are like a requirement for coming on your podcast 😂but seriously, the nutrient levels and health habits of any person can drastically affect their sexuality, emotions, mental abilities, etc. It matters for the people thinking about them too 💛

  • @AllieMatthews-c6t
    @AllieMatthews-c6t 9 місяців тому +2

    i wasn't going "grow out" of my desire to transition though... and no, i don't have any abonormal sexual desires. i just want to move through life passing as a woman, and i do. i waited until 22, pulled the trigger and move on with my life. thriving now and moving on from aviation into natural science studies.

  • @kimberleyfloyd8179
    @kimberleyfloyd8179 10 місяців тому +2

    I have a question. Most subcultures are against the previous generation of teachers, parents, and other institutions. So why would the kids be on board with all this since it's taught in school? I guess I am having trouble seeing it that way since it looks like a lot of adults are on board. Maybe the upcoming zoomers are going to fix some of this. There's a rise in my of outdoor independence and play for the 11 and unders you know with the Swifties and non-Swifties. Maybe music helping form identities will come back! I am not even done the video, so maybe your guest touches on this in the video...which is a great calmversation BTW.

    • @EdFurlong-n5u
      @EdFurlong-n5u 10 місяців тому +3

      Is trans ideology actually taught in schools? Having the teachers address kids by their preferred pronouns isn’t the same thing as teaching children about gender ideology. There’s also probably going to be a lot of variety in schools in how accepted transgender students are. Some kids might identify as trans because they are outcasts (for a lack of a better word) and are looking for a group of people that accept them. You might also have people come out as trans and suddenly they become super popular with everyone telling them how brave they are how proud everyone is of them. That’s kind of two extremes of the social situation, joining a small group of outcasts or doing it and becoming popular (or trying to be popular after seeing someone else get attention).
      Coming out as trans is still something that’s fairly new. Maybe once / if it becomes normalized then people won’t get attention (positive or negative).
      Even negative attention is attention, if you’re white and male for instance you’re told you’re an oppressor and inherently racist. Come out as trans and now you are part of an oppressed minority.
      If things get to the point where it’s no big deal that anyone is trans, kind of like I doubt most people would cares if anyone was goth, then maybe the social contagion aspect will die down.

    • @kimberleyfloyd8179
      @kimberleyfloyd8179 9 місяців тому +1

      @user-bz2gz8yd3c In sex or health education by grade 4, where I live (not US), the concept of having a gender identity is taught in school. It may differ depending on how teachers approach it. Our teacher warned us kind of. I have the course material from when my boys were younger, too. Therefore, there was talk of it 8 years ago.
      I know from paying attention, that many young women, more than boys, seem to be on board ideologically, and it's mostly girls that I know who are using opposite sex or non binary pronouns. I think I know of one MTF. The ones I notice are usually artistic and possibly autistic. Just an observation!
      So my thought was, why are the kids following a trend that adults are supporting? My generation would have been rebelling against it! Or maybe they trust teachers more because they are on their side. Maybe they think some adults are cool and some are not. They certainly are not interested in the old social media that their parents use (Facebook). So they do have some areas where they are individuating from the previous generation.

    • @kimberleyfloyd8179
      @kimberleyfloyd8179 9 місяців тому

      I would add, artistic, possibly autistic, atypically feminine, or have a significant trauma or mental health condition. This is purely from observation.

    • @michelerafferty8562
      @michelerafferty8562 9 місяців тому +1

      Re. Kids being on board: I think it still is a rebellion, the attitude is rather spoilt and nothing is ever enough, demands must be met or there will be consequences. So the older generation are almost roped into the whole thing (which is new)
      The naval gazing also means over involvement from: parents, teachers, police, etc. isn’t noticed.

    • @kimberleyfloyd8179
      @kimberleyfloyd8179 9 місяців тому +2

      @@michelerafferty8562 you make some very valid points.

  • @TheWaywardDruid
    @TheWaywardDruid 2 місяці тому

    I'm currently taking HRT and I've tried to quit several times only to have my psyche break after a week and then I end up back on it. I feel masculine on the HRT and feel the desire to be in a relationship with a woman but I hate my male body so much because of childhood trauma. I noticed that if I behave too feminine for too long my masculine side will take over. It's like two people are living within me, It's a terrible yanking back and forth that's incredibly exhausting. I want to accept it and get off HRT for good. I've come to the conclusion that I can't get off it alone. I can't keep messing with my hormones like that. I need serious help.

    • @BenjaminABoyce
      @BenjaminABoyce  2 місяці тому +1

      I hope you can find someone to speak with about this. I’ve been thinking about setting up a one-on-one service to help people in roughly your position to tell their own stories to themselves, sort it out, and recognize what is best for them. If you’d like to give that a go, I’ll make time for you. Contact me through my about page. And God bless.

    • @notreal-duh
      @notreal-duh 7 днів тому

      what do you mean “tried to quit”?
      it’s not addictive

  • @marynoonan6111
    @marynoonan6111 9 місяців тому

    A flighty crushed velvet form of Goth - hahaha 😂😂😂😂

  • @jcimsn8464
    @jcimsn8464 9 місяців тому +2

    The title of this profound conversation is a turn off. I am trying to get my mental health professional colleagues to listen and learn and the titles are an immediate turn off and make it seem like I am promoting something irrelevant. Please consider this.

    • @BenjaminABoyce
      @BenjaminABoyce  9 місяців тому +3

      Message received. I have to generate hundreds of titles a year and must balance popular interest with other concerns, so not every parameter can be satisfied.

  • @IslandArt61
    @IslandArt61 8 місяців тому

    Recently a friend said to me that almost 50% of the kids at her teen son's school are claiming they are trans. She said "it's fad, like when in high school I was Goth."

  • @Gingerblaze
    @Gingerblaze 10 місяців тому

    Is there any place people can access his book in a bricks and mortar store?

  • @ChollieD
    @ChollieD 10 місяців тому +3

    16:30 LOLZing a bit at Dr. Hakeem gesturing with all those _mementi mori_ rings on his fingers while talking about fetishes and libidinal energy.
    Am I a bad person?

    • @ebert8756
      @ebert8756 9 місяців тому

      He's a recovering goth. This might be useful information 😂

  • @cameronseibold5453
    @cameronseibold5453 10 місяців тому +4

    Guy who wears excessive amounts of skull rings on his fingers need to chill out on waving their rings in your face all the time. We get it, you're edgy.

  • @helenromanelli2544
    @helenromanelli2544 8 місяців тому

    what spectrum? Could not understand Dr. Hakeem!

  • @franfranfrancis
    @franfranfrancis Місяць тому

    I think this guy needs some more jewelery