Thanks for sharing! I was born in Bay Shore in 1991 and grew up a few minutes from the train station, on a street called Lakeview Avenue, which is right near the closed 1st Avenue railroad crossing. I would hear and see these trains go by at all hours of the day. The horns never bothered me, and I could sleep through them. My family and I moved from New York in 2006. Watching this brings back nostalgia for me.
While you were filming this, I was at a party at the Irish Coffee Pub (which is in between Islip and Great River stations) and I saw a ton of local trains while I was standing on the balcony. I heard mostly good horns, so I must’ve been indoors when the trains with the cab car horns were nearby.
It’s not NEARLY as safe to have them on your preferred setting, especially in places where trains are advised not to sound their horns. Most if not all crossings west of the Mississippi River have the continuous ring setting
Tim, besides asperin, maybe you need to carry ear plugs in your glove compartment. Have you heard that they're talking about bringing HORN & Hardart back. I loved those places years ago. I ate in the ones in Philly.
6:09 Is that a different cab car horn? Doesn't sound the same. Actually sounds good to me. Nevermind. I read down in the comments and noticed your comment. Nice editing. If only the C3 had horns like that. Lol
No way I could leave it at that. Unfortunately one cannot put links in UA-cam comments, so here goes… Every train that operates at any point on the railroad is assigned a train number. For the most part, that train number is printed at the bottom of every column in the PDF timetables. While the LIRR doesn't frequently use its train numbers in the public sense (in the form of announcements or alerts), each train still retains a number for use by the railroad and others who wish to use them. The LIRR operates hundreds of trains per day and each one has a number. They don't senselessly assign numbers to each train starting with 1 and ending a couple hundred numbers later, rather the train numbering follows a system, one that has multiple parts which makes the train numbers easier to understand. Most train numbers are either three or four digits long and consist of multiple components. The first component, is the "series." Each branch is assigned a block of numbers for their trains and all of the branch's trains fall within that block. The blocks of numbers were once assigned only depending on where a train originates/terminates, but since the introduction of service to NY-Grand Central, some have their train numbers split, with trains to NY-Penn Station and trains to NY-Grand Central using different number series (which makes them easier to tell apart). For example, a train that operates between Huntington and NY-Penn Station has a 15xx number while a train that terminates at Hicksville would have a 25xx number. The full table of train numbers are below: Branch City Terminal NYK GCT LIC ATL OTP Westhampton - Montauk 1-29, 90-99 MY Bellport - Speonk 30-49 MY Bay Shore - Patchogue 50-89 MY Babylon 100-199 200-299 BY Port Washington 300-399 400-499 n/a PW East Williston - Oyster Bay 500-599 OB Greenlawn - Port Jefferson 600-699 PJ Hempstead 700-799 HM Long Beach 800-899 LB Medford - Greenport 900-999 KO Wyandanch - Central Islip 1000-1099 KO Babylon Zones 1100-1199 1200-1299 BY Great Neck 1300-1399 1400-1499 n/a PW Huntington 1500-1599 1600-1699 UN West Hempstead 1700-1799 WM Belmont Park 1800-1899 HM Ronkonkoma 1900-1999 2000-2099 KO Farmingdale 2100-2199 KO Main Line Zones 2500-2599 2600-2699 PJ Valley Stream - Far Rockaway 2700-2799 FR West of Jamaica 2300-2399 2400-2499 2200-2299 2800-2999 ** Hillside 9000-9099 n/a Midday Yard 9100-9199 9200-9299 n/a n/a n/a Weekend numbers are formed by adding 6000 to the weekday train numbers, and are assigned the same way. Scheduled non-revenue train numbers are formed by adding 3000 to the weekday train numbers (weekday and weekend equipment trains use the same numbering system, though no duplication is allowed-weekend equipment trains typically start at xx80 to avoid confusion). Shop train numbers are alphanumeric and don't conform to a strict numbering scheme, though they typically indicate the origin and destination, and the typical departure time, e.g. BJ1020 typically departs Brooklyn for Jamaica around 10:20p, though they do not have a set schedule. Since the start of East Side Access, there seem to be a lot fewer of these, as more trains are numbered in the 9000 series. Even numbered trains travel eastbound, odd numbered trains travel westbound. Train numbers are generally assigned sequentially, though a number of exceptions exist already just a few weeks/months into the new service plan as LIRR has scrambled to tweak train schedules in response to complaints, shuffling trains among different city terminals and adding/eliminating whole trains. When this happens, typically gaps have been left, or new trains will be stuck in, typically numbered high in the series (e.g. 799, 2099, 2094, etc.). This is done to avoid disrupting the existing numbering of trains people might already be familiar with-though there have been some cases (e.g. on the South Shore) where LIRR has renumbered dozens of trains to address gaps in the sequence. Numbers for special trains, like holiday eve extras, or summer seasonal trains, are generally numbered in order with the other trains, and gaps in numbering exist when they are not running. Other special occasion trains (like extra trains run on special holidays, Thanksgiving, New Year's, etc. are typically assigned separate numbers high in the series, e.g. 8792, 8796, 6192, etc.) Train numbers generally jump forward around noon. Most series will start numbering at the midpoint (i.e. 350, 450, 550, etc.). This is not observed on the Montauk Branch where trains are numbered sequentially all day and by terminal instead. It is also generally not observed with equipment trains...weekday equipment trains are numbered in the base series, with weekend equipment train numbers assigned beginning at 80 (e.g. 7480, 5781, etc.). On Montauk Branch, the 0000 series trains are further split up depending on where they terminate. Trains that go east of Speonk to Montauk fall into the first portion of the 27xx series while trains that terminate at Speonk fall into the middle part and trains that begin or end their runs at Patchogue another. The exception that previously existed for the Cannonball has been removed and that train is now properly numbered in sequence as train 16. The South Fork Commuter Connection trains that do not operate to/from western terminals are numbered in the 90-99 range. With the start of the new East Side Access schedules, the LIRR is treating the equipment trains that run to/from Hillside Yard and the new Midday Yard that was built for East Side Access differently. These trains are now numbered 9000-90999 for runs to/from Hillside, and 9100-9299 for runs to/from the new Midday Storage Yard. These are all equipment trains and do not carry passengers (and don't have separate weekday/weekend series numbers). Presently, Midday Storage Yard is only used by trains to/from NY-Grand Central, though there are plans to make connections for trains to/from NY-Penn Station to double back to the yard. Extra trains for special events and the like are typically numbered beginning at 9300, however there is no strict rhyme or reason for how these trains are numbered. ** - West of Jamaica trains count towards the following branches for OTP purposes: Jamaica to/from NY-Penn Station: West of Babylon Branch Jamaica to/from NY-Grand Central: ??? Jamaica to/from Brooklyn-Atlantic Terminal: Atlantic Branch Jamaica to/from Long Island City: Oyster Bay Branch
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Thanks for sharing! I was born in Bay Shore in 1991 and grew up a few minutes from the train station, on a street called Lakeview Avenue, which is right near the closed 1st Avenue railroad crossing. I would hear and see these trains go by at all hours of the day. The horns never bothered me, and I could sleep through them. My family and I moved from New York in 2006. Watching this brings back nostalgia for me.
Great video
I don't like it when people cross while the gates are down. Even if a train is stopped it's still very dangerous.
Stupidity
Talking about arranging your own death
While you were filming this, I was at a party at the Irish Coffee Pub (which is in between Islip and Great River stations) and I saw a ton of local trains while I was standing on the balcony. I heard mostly good horns, so I must’ve been indoors when the trains with the cab car horns were nearby.
You probably heard all eastbound trains.
these cab cars sound utterly horrible. it gets worse every single time.! odd day, someone wasn't too happy, but the Cannonball was pretty incredible.
4:19 sheesh he laying on that horn lol
2:06 IS THAT THE FU*KING RO SCALE SANDBOX HORN
The crossing bells going the whole time would give me a headache! I'm used to them ringing only when the gates are lowering.
It’s not NEARLY as safe to have them on your preferred setting, especially in places where trains are advised not to sound their horns. Most if not all crossings west of the Mississippi River have the continuous ring setting
Tim, besides asperin, maybe you need to carry ear plugs in your glove compartment.
Have you heard that they're talking about bringing HORN & Hardart back. I loved those places years ago. I ate in the ones in Philly.
Haha
Excederin headache # 51….. bad car horns…. Got to love spaghetti & meat balls 😊😊😊😊😊
4:30 finally no more of that bop boop bap bam dop bip short horns
Finally C3 horn sequences
Good video and horn humor! 😂
Glad your bad horn day was cured💚👌👍
Those horns are really getting on my nerves. I have to come up with a fix sometimes.
That equipment at 4:34 I saw at Huntington arriving on train 629 last Friday. That time it had 4 cars.
Wait did you and Tim Railfann the same day
Actually different fridays (him on the 14th me on the 7th)
6:09 Is that a different cab car horn? Doesn't sound the same. Actually sounds good to me.
Nevermind. I read down in the comments and noticed your comment. Nice editing. If only the C3 had horns like that. Lol
Any rhyme or reason to the LIRR train numbers?
They tried to distinguish between routes in between Penn Station, originating trains, and Grand Central originating trains to the same destinations
No way I could leave it at that. Unfortunately one cannot put links in UA-cam comments, so here goes…
Every train that operates at any point on the railroad is assigned a train number. For the most part, that train number is printed at the bottom of every column in the PDF timetables. While the LIRR doesn't frequently use its train numbers in the public sense (in the form of announcements or alerts), each train still retains a number for use by the railroad and others who wish to use them.
The LIRR operates hundreds of trains per day and each one has a number. They don't senselessly assign numbers to each train starting with 1 and ending a couple hundred numbers later, rather the train numbering follows a system, one that has multiple parts which makes the train numbers easier to understand.
Most train numbers are either three or four digits long and consist of multiple components. The first component, is the "series." Each branch is assigned a block of numbers for their trains and all of the branch's trains fall within that block. The blocks of numbers were once assigned only depending on where a train originates/terminates, but since the introduction of service to NY-Grand Central, some have their train numbers split, with trains to NY-Penn Station and trains to NY-Grand Central using different number series (which makes them easier to tell apart). For example, a train that operates between Huntington and NY-Penn Station has a 15xx number while a train that terminates at Hicksville would have a 25xx number. The full table of train numbers are below:
Branch City Terminal
NYK GCT LIC ATL OTP
Westhampton - Montauk 1-29, 90-99 MY
Bellport - Speonk 30-49 MY
Bay Shore - Patchogue 50-89 MY
Babylon 100-199 200-299 BY
Port Washington 300-399 400-499 n/a PW
East Williston - Oyster Bay 500-599 OB
Greenlawn - Port Jefferson 600-699 PJ
Hempstead 700-799 HM
Long Beach 800-899 LB
Medford - Greenport 900-999 KO
Wyandanch - Central Islip 1000-1099 KO
Babylon Zones 1100-1199 1200-1299 BY
Great Neck 1300-1399 1400-1499 n/a PW
Huntington 1500-1599 1600-1699 UN
West Hempstead 1700-1799 WM
Belmont Park 1800-1899 HM
Ronkonkoma 1900-1999 2000-2099 KO
Farmingdale 2100-2199 KO
Main Line Zones 2500-2599 2600-2699 PJ
Valley Stream - Far Rockaway 2700-2799 FR
West of Jamaica 2300-2399 2400-2499 2200-2299 2800-2999 **
Hillside 9000-9099 n/a
Midday Yard 9100-9199 9200-9299 n/a n/a n/a
Weekend numbers are formed by adding 6000 to the weekday train numbers, and are assigned the same way. Scheduled non-revenue train numbers are formed by adding 3000 to the weekday train numbers (weekday and weekend equipment trains use the same numbering system, though no duplication is allowed-weekend equipment trains typically start at xx80 to avoid confusion). Shop train numbers are alphanumeric and don't conform to a strict numbering scheme, though they typically indicate the origin and destination, and the typical departure time, e.g. BJ1020 typically departs Brooklyn for Jamaica around 10:20p, though they do not have a set schedule. Since the start of East Side Access, there seem to be a lot fewer of these, as more trains are numbered in the 9000 series.
Even numbered trains travel eastbound, odd numbered trains travel westbound.
Train numbers are generally assigned sequentially, though a number of exceptions exist already just a few weeks/months into the new service plan as LIRR has scrambled to tweak train schedules in response to complaints, shuffling trains among different city terminals and adding/eliminating whole trains. When this happens, typically gaps have been left, or new trains will be stuck in, typically numbered high in the series (e.g. 799, 2099, 2094, etc.). This is done to avoid disrupting the existing numbering of trains people might already be familiar with-though there have been some cases (e.g. on the South Shore) where LIRR has renumbered dozens of trains to address gaps in the sequence. Numbers for special trains, like holiday eve extras, or summer seasonal trains, are generally numbered in order with the other trains, and gaps in numbering exist when they are not running. Other special occasion trains (like extra trains run on special holidays, Thanksgiving, New Year's, etc. are typically assigned separate numbers high in the series, e.g. 8792, 8796, 6192, etc.)
Train numbers generally jump forward around noon. Most series will start numbering at the midpoint (i.e. 350, 450, 550, etc.). This is not observed on the Montauk Branch where trains are numbered sequentially all day and by terminal instead. It is also generally not observed with equipment trains...weekday equipment trains are numbered in the base series, with weekend equipment train numbers assigned beginning at 80 (e.g. 7480, 5781, etc.).
On Montauk Branch, the 0000 series trains are further split up depending on where they terminate. Trains that go east of Speonk to Montauk fall into the first portion of the 27xx series while trains that terminate at Speonk fall into the middle part and trains that begin or end their runs at Patchogue another. The exception that previously existed for the Cannonball has been removed and that train is now properly numbered in sequence as train 16. The South Fork Commuter Connection trains that do not operate to/from western terminals are numbered in the 90-99 range.
With the start of the new East Side Access schedules, the LIRR is treating the equipment trains that run to/from Hillside Yard and the new Midday Yard that was built for East Side Access differently. These trains are now numbered 9000-90999 for runs to/from Hillside, and 9100-9299 for runs to/from the new Midday Storage Yard. These are all equipment trains and do not carry passengers (and don't have separate weekday/weekend series numbers). Presently, Midday Storage Yard is only used by trains to/from NY-Grand Central, though there are plans to make connections for trains to/from NY-Penn Station to double back to the yard.
Extra trains for special events and the like are typically numbered beginning at 9300, however there is no strict rhyme or reason for how these trains are numbered.
** - West of Jamaica trains count towards the following branches for OTP purposes:
Jamaica to/from NY-Penn Station: West of Babylon Branch
Jamaica to/from NY-Grand Central: ???
Jamaica to/from Brooklyn-Atlantic Terminal: Atlantic Branch
Jamaica to/from Long Island City: Oyster Bay Branch
6:19 does it actually have that horn because that doesn’t sound like it was edited in?
Not the real horn. I edit carefully. I try to make it sound real
It does. In another video it had that. Idk why though. The K13A is loud though which is why I like it
@@railfannerjs6308 he doesn’t like the C3 Cab Car horns
@@broyofroyo1207 that’s putting it mildly
that's NYAR 268's Horn if im correct
Say what you want, but those cab cars sound better than Silverliner IV horns!
That’s not saying much for the SV4 horns