The experience of beauty has been defined. But what beauty is as a reflection of the external subject cannot be the same for everyone. Beauty I'd hypothesise is a stimulation of the brain as a result of positive associative thinking, genetic or as a result of previous experience.
I love it because I believe that the object is beautiful. I believe that the object is beautiful, that's why I love it. By the way --> I believe, that your improvisation of the Canon by Pachelbel is beautiful, that's why I love it ;)
Love requires a more sustained belief that something can stay beautiful or become beautiful as a result of probably, sustained positive associative thinking in the past towards that object.
за день до сдачи эссе по философии ищу перевод "внутреннее виденье: исследование искусства и мозга". иронично что информацию которая идеально мне подходи мне по теме невозможно найти, а если и возможно, то она платная и на английском
So basically, they found the area of the brain, common to all people (although all brains aren't entirely the same), where their is a neurobiological response to the experience of beauty. Cool. I accept this but to suggest that "Beauty comes from the brain not from the art itself" is just jumping too far ahead. A basic understanding of brain development would tell you that the brain depends upon experience to develop. Therefore, beauty cannot come from the brain, because the brain needs experience of beauty for beauty to exist. Beauty comes from a combination of the brain and experience.
How can you prove this? It would imply that there is a universal truth of objective beauty. I can’t stand behind this. Especially when some cultures regards something as beautiful while others do not. Who is then right? It has to be subjective, even though the parts of the brain that are active are the same (more or less).
He confuses subjective mental states with brain activity. My experience of beauty cannot be the same as my brain activities. For example, Vulcans like Spock, cannot experience beauty but they would be able to measure my brain activity. By measuring my brain activity they would not learn a single thing about what it would be like to experience beauty. And they especially wouldn't be any wiser as to what it is like for me to experience beauty. Only I can experience that, nobody else. Similarly, scientists can quantify my brain activity but it would be impossible for them to quantify my own subjective mental state - that is a closed book to them...forever. Stick to the limits of science Dr. Zeki.
unless we create new technologies stimulating your brain in a way you experience catharsis like watching beauty while staring at the wall. It is coming, my friend, and I am sorry if it will disappoint you pretty soon
@@superbrain6759 We can already stimulate the brain to give predictable experiences but that is not the same thing as studying the experience itself. All we have is correlation
beauty is not in the brain, beauty is in the inner harmony of the object/person/stimulus. The brain respond with pleasure at this stimulus, but the harmony comes from external world
The experience of beauty has been defined. But what beauty is as a reflection of the external subject cannot be the same for everyone. Beauty I'd hypothesise is a stimulation of the brain as a result of positive associative thinking, genetic or as a result of previous experience.
The beauty is in the eyes of the beholder : )
Beauty is a personal experience, therefore, different people can have different experiences with the same work of art
I love it because I believe that the object is beautiful.
I believe that the object is beautiful, that's why I love it.
By the way --> I believe, that your improvisation of the Canon by Pachelbel is beautiful, that's why I love it ;)
Love requires a more sustained belief that something can stay beautiful or become beautiful as a result of probably, sustained positive associative thinking in the past towards that object.
Nice .....but my doubt is What about the beauty stimulated by an object for 1st time!!!
за день до сдачи эссе по философии ищу перевод "внутреннее виденье: исследование искусства и мозга". иронично что информацию которая идеально мне подходи мне по теме невозможно найти, а если и возможно, то она платная и на английском
So basically, they found the area of the brain, common to all people (although all brains aren't entirely the same), where their is a neurobiological response to the experience of beauty. Cool. I accept this but to suggest that "Beauty comes from the brain not from the art itself" is just jumping too far ahead. A basic understanding of brain development would tell you that the brain depends upon experience to develop. Therefore, beauty cannot come from the brain, because the brain needs experience of beauty for beauty to exist. Beauty comes from a combination of the brain and experience.
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How can you prove this? It would imply that there is a universal truth of objective beauty. I can’t stand behind this. Especially when some cultures regards something as beautiful while others do not. Who is then right? It has to be subjective, even though the parts of the brain that are active are the same (more or less).
Wonderful job!! :)
Very interesting! Thanks! :)
brilliant
What is the name of the composer or name of the symphony he mentioned at 5:45?
Gustav Mahler!
In short and trivialised - Beauty is love?
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He confuses subjective mental states with brain activity. My experience of beauty cannot be the same as my brain activities. For example, Vulcans like Spock, cannot experience beauty but they would be able to measure my brain activity. By measuring my brain activity they would not learn a single thing about what it would be like to experience beauty. And they especially wouldn't be any wiser as to what it is like for me to experience beauty. Only I can experience that, nobody else. Similarly, scientists can quantify my brain activity but it would be impossible for them to quantify my own subjective mental state - that is a closed book to them...forever. Stick to the limits of science Dr. Zeki.
unless we create new technologies stimulating your brain in a way you experience catharsis like watching beauty while staring at the wall. It is coming, my friend, and I am sorry if it will disappoint you pretty soon
@@superbrain6759 We can already stimulate the brain to give predictable experiences but that is not the same thing as studying the experience itself. All we have is correlation
Bu herif türk mü ya
Use 1.25x speed :)
beauty is not in the brain, beauty is in the inner harmony of the object/person/stimulus. The brain respond with pleasure at this stimulus, but the harmony comes from external world
I think that's a great concept. But has this been documented?
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False. Harmony comes from within and can expand outwardly. Everything and I mean everything comes from within
𝘣𝘦𝘢𝘶𝘵𝘺 𝘪𝘴 𝘪𝘯 𝘵𝘩𝘦 𝘪𝘯𝘯𝘦𝘳 𝘩𝘢𝘳𝘮𝘰𝘯𝘺 𝘰𝘧 𝘵𝘩𝘦 𝘰𝘣𝘫𝘦𝘤𝘵/𝘱𝘦𝘳𝘴𝘰𝘯/𝘴𝘵𝘪𝘮𝘶𝘭𝘶𝘴
Yes, but his question is: what portion of the brain is it that makes this judgment?