New Shotgun Company is a Game Changer 🔥
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- Опубліковано 17 тра 2023
- New Shotgun Company is a Game Changer: Custom-built shotguns are nothing new, but traditionally they come with a price tag so high that they are not feasible for many shooters and hunters. What if we told you you could get a custom Italian shotgun starting at $2,000? Crazy right!? If you have experience with the Upland Gun Company or any other custom-fit shotguns, please let us know on the TFL COMMUNITY! Let's go!
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Good, informative "Show and Tell" video. Clear speech, and good explanations.
Apparently from the many negative comments made by many, they do not understand the concept of getting a shotgun properly fitted to your body. I do. My arms are about an inch longer than all the shotgun stocks which I have owned, rented or used. I have to add an extra thick recoil pad to every shotgun so that I can get a good "fit" so the gun becomes an extension of the body and eyes.
I am pleased to see they are offering nice field guns in 16 gauge, they actually pattern better than 3" 20s
I’m hoping this introduction helps create demand to lower price closer to 12 gauge. Right now it is expensive to feed my 16g coach gun. Not sure why you compare to 20 gauge. My 16g kicks as hard as my 12g with 2.75” shells.
Forgot to mention the costs of the fitting (3-400 bucks), time, travel, lodging and so on if one isn't close to you. Also, 450-500 for chokes? They need to offer to have the barrels threaded for whatever choke system you prefer or pick something common like beretta/benelli mobil and extended or flush fit. I did a basic build and it still comes out to 2750, plus the costs of fitting and anything else in between. So really the cheapest model is a 3-3.5k gun when it's said and done. If something happens does
it go back to RFC in Italy, or do they smith it in house? And only a 1 year warranty? C'mon!
Yeah great option but also way more expensive for very basic features.
yeah... I priced them out and Rizzini or Guerini are honestly about the same price... It's not cheaper at all. why risk it.
Erik
I would definitely go with rizzini over these
I have one… and another on the way. Great experience and great products
Finding a gun with good color case hardening is generally difficult. How well does it hold up?
So why would I not just do the same process with Rfm? What am I missing?
After looking for the perfect OU for years I ran into them at Pheasant Fest. I was hooked and ordered one that will hopefully be delivered in September!! I ordered the SK Feather in 20ga
How is it?
I have been thinking about a light weight 20ga 26" barrels. These start at 2k and go up with each feature added. I can get a Franchi Instinct SL for around $1500. Which includes single selective trigger,ejectors and choke tubes all included.
I got a cz ultralight 20 gauge with 26" barrels. It's under 6 lbs.
Franchi aren’t custom tho
I have a franchi instinct l and for a field gun that has gotten plenty rusted and beat up over the past 10+ years it is more than good enough. You just have to try different brands and models until one fits you. Average man's custom gun right there.
A double is a better value , your eyes are horizontal like a double better sight plane ! Less $
You missed the point which is to get a nice gun without all that complex shit for the unskilled/lazy shooter. Simple fixed chokes & extractors.
As a left handed, left eye dominant guy with a bad right eye this is definitely interesting!
Love this video and information. THANKS!
I've been keeping track of UGC since they got started. Can't wait to get started on mine.
This is good information. a proper shotgun fit makes a big difference. you don't have to spend big bucks to properly fit a shotgun.
Great video, Steve. So good of you to find treasures like this and share them with us. Time to go playing with configurations!
Patrick Blink
Dammit they have exactly what I want!
I don’t need the side by side, but now I want one.
If you've ever been skeet/trap shooting you will need an over/under too.
@@D33Lux I have one. It’s my work gun in the field.
@@cinnreds18 chinreds
Their Zeus and Venus model in 16 gauge have me 🤤... Wonder if they can do a 10 gauge 2-7/8" chambered SxS, especially in the Minerva style with side locks, and rounded monte carlo butt stock... 🤤
There's a model by rfm called the canard which upland gun company can order. I don't know if they do 10 gauge for it but it has 3.5 inch chambers for 12 gauge
So I shoot production in USPSA and I'm here to say even with irons I'm shooting target focused. It's tricky at first but it works very well once you get used to it, it's faster too
Sabo 😂👋
Good video Steve!!
I prefer to buy a classic gun over a new. In the last six years I bought a Win 97, Win 12, Win 50, Remington 31, Remington 10, Western Field 30, Savage 775A, Savage 820B, Ithaca 37 and a Glenfield 50. And I paid less for all of those combined than the base price of the one in the video.
But in my wishlist are the Winchester Model 42 and a Sjögren.
How can you shoot with them? All the guns in the world do no good in the field if they don't fit you. I was fitted by Del in May and my guns I have been lugging around for years didn't even come close to fitting me. That explains my shooting woes...
@@1175drh Only one doesn't fit me. A Remington Model 10 I bought a few months ago. Stock is too short. I need to buy an extended buttpad.
Well, that’s fine, but it’s apples and oranges. Production pumps and semis are not in the same arena as fine custom/semi-custom doubles. It sounds like you have some great shotguns. If you someday become interested in SxSs or O/U shotguns, these may interest you.
@@leifhoklin2681 I already have two OU shotguns.
@@hquiller Well, perhaps you simply prefer classic production shotguns then. I’m just saying that they’re not really directly comparable.
I have been upland hunting with a 97 year old LC. Smith 12 gauge. But I am looking forward to when I can afford one of the sxs shotguns from upland gun company.
Hi Erik
Awesome! My wife is not gonna like this!! 😂😂
All depends on how your going to use the gun , field,trap,skeet,sporting
Hey Steve, which model did you end up going with?
Literally just looked into these for the first time yesterday!
What’s the website?
Can’t say on UA-cam unfortunately. Fortunately, it’s easy to find with a quick search.
@@TargetFocusedLife test the guns to bring down as many geese with a single shot short range to long range the widest patterns in short range and long range
@@TargetFocusedLife it's all about how many geese you can bring down wider patterns test short range long range
Buy a browning or beretta. You will be thankful when you need a part.
Gord Earl
Oh my...I have had a 28 gauge itch for a couple years.
I don't have Uplands, but I have two 28ga shotguns. My friend, scratch that itch!!! LOVE my 28s! I honestly like it better than 20 or 410. It's the perfect mid-fit!
Sounds great now but can I stay in budget ? Just like a kid in a candy store. I will have to check them out.
It's not the wand - it's the magician.
Yet all wizards love a fine wand.
Where is website or contact info for company?
Google upland gun company
They charge $2200 for their lowest over under, then they ask you to pay $350 extra just to have ejectors & another $250 just to have barrel selector ANDDD $500 for the chokes. So the gun comes with no chokes?! Ill stick with my Browning 725 & Beretta silver pigeon. I get everything you charge for your on "Custom Guns" on it and I send it back for service anytime, FOR FREE. Crazy right?!
For the chokes, by default they'll have fixed choke... the extra is for removable chokes.
- As for the price difference between a RFM gun, or Browning/Beretta... it's like saying why buy a Japanese car, when a US car will do the same for less $...
I can’t speak for the value of RFM’s O/Us against the Brownings and Berettas, but their SxSs offer real value. These are custom made, hand-fit guns made by a small group of craftsmen and craftswomen. Want gun order includes a visit to a fitter to ensure your shotgun is custom tailored to for you. If you’re the shooter who’s out there every week on the sporting clays range, and your gun is a workhorse rather than an heirloom, the silver pigeon or 725 are probably better choices.
"hey whats up everybody...." can't get more original than that . . .
Hey Target focused Life! I bought one of uplands shotguns after this video. Did y’all get yours in yet? I’ve been waiting on the follow-up video.😅 I’m about 5 months into the waiting game.
It appears that we've got a bunch of budget-minded shooters in the comments here. Got news for all of you; Upland isn't targeting your middle- or lower-class dollar. They're targeting a small niche audience and chances are that they'll be just fine targeting that niche. Don't get your panties in a wad because you hoped to custom order a Rolls Royce for the price of a Kia.
Hi Ken 👋😊
I hate to tell you this, but an American company importing Italian shotguns and finishing them is hardly a Rolls Royce. There is nothing stopping me from buying a similar shotgun for $600 and getting it fitted myself.
Now, if they had decided to manufacture the guns from tip to butt and made a good shotgun then we could talk.
@@jonathonsmith4170 Haha... the word of the day is "extrapolation." It was a simple, exaggerated analogy to demonstrate a point. In no way, was I calling Upland a Rolls Royce, or even suggesting the craftsmanship measures up to that of the legendary auto maker.
I'm sure we've both met, or read the comments from these guys, that want a thick, juicy steak for the price of a happy meal, expecting it to give them the filet mignon experience, and gripe like crazy when it doesn't live up to it. That's the point. Some may differ on what the definition of quality is or isn't, and that's the beauty of opinions, but when it comes to price point, it is more commonly true that as the quality of parts and craftsmanship goes up, so does the price. If we, the consumers, want those parts and craftsmanship, we should expect a higher-priced product than what these "affordable" options offer. And if we disagree with that price, there is nothing stopping us from taking our money elsewhere. There is no sense in complaining about it. None. There's always another opportunity. There's always another deal. Either increase the income, be patient, or move on to something else.
Great shooting and good times to you!
This name has been around for a few years now
Give yourself a year. I ordered mine in Feb and still waiting in October. Was hoping to see for pheasant season, guess I will have to shoot the Benelli SBE for another year.
How long did it end up taking? Do you like it now that you have it?
@@marshallharding9094 I took delivery Nov 16th. So exactly 9 months. I love the gun!!
Sweet. I'm about to place an order.
Seem like a great bunch but unless they are going to recreat an ithaca model 37. I'll stick to the charles Daly boom stick.
When are you going to post a video about you at the reeds Gun fair
I will never purchase one of these firearms , BUT I greatly admire that this options available in this age of plastic stock production guns . For the person that admires true quality over quantity in there firearm collection , what great pride one would have owning such a piece of mechanical art . Canada .
Can you still own a gun in Canada
Yes . but no more handguns or semi-autoes ,,,unless you already own them . BUT the Liberal government is trying to confiscate those .Seems like they are increasing the price of ammunition so the average law abiding Sport Shooter can't afford the hobby . Sad , this used to be a free country with hunting traditions .Canada .
@@johnspruit7296 John Spruit
@@johnnymaccool9828 if they can it won’t be for long
@@davidgori5407 Well, whatever is happening over there (or in Australia/Europe) is a preview of what the UN will try to impose on the US...
I would like to purchase one of your 16 gauge. Are yours built on a 16 gauge frame? Could you tell me the average weight of a 16 gauge?
Does your Co. do restoration??
I don't know....Interviewing a person with your hat on backwards makes sense to me!! Nice guns though.
Do you drive Uber ?
@@lauramcelhiney I have been asked that a million times.
@@kenuber4014 Do you silly ? Where you from ? Howdy 👋 from Indiana. What social media you got. ? 😎
I’m just curious who makes these guns? To get the big money for a gun custom or not it needs to be a reputable company and have great customer service after because all guns will break.
Hi Andrew
RFC in Italy makes them. These guys are just there for sales and support which makes me question if there's an issue with anything, do they have an in house smith, or does it need to be sent back to RFC.
Esa clase de arma son una elegancia belleza
Niche market. Probably do well for that person who wants exactly what he wants. For the other 95 percent who just wants a reliable tool there’s a plethora of acceptable shotguns available.
To build a similar gun as the Rizzini I would like, it is $379 more from this company. 16-Gauge 6.75 lbs from UGC. 6.1lb same guage. I'm sure these are very nice, but until I'm able to hold it in my hand I don't think I'll feel comfortable with UGC. Very cool stuff though.
It’s like getting a perazzi but in America?
I hope we can get a demo video with some range time next!
TwoGun
I used their gun builder to custom option one. List price was about $5000, which is a reasonable price for such a fine weapon.
we are in suspense, what model did you invest in?
@@commonconservative7551 The RFM Venus. 20 gauge, 28" barrels, pistol grip stock, grade 2 wood with standard checkering, splinter forend, single trigger, ejectors, fixed cylinder/improved cylinder chokes, case colored frame, standard engraving. List is about $4300 dollars in this particular configuration.
@@chrisgraham9203 hi Chris
@@lauramcelhineyhi Laura
ITS ALL ABOUT HOW MANY YOU CAN BRING DOWN GEESE WITH A SINGLE SHOT YOUR TESTING GUNS WITHOUT PATTERNS IN LONG RANGE 🎯
Looked online, and nothing under $2k 😑
So double barrel w a 7.62x54 under barrel is a yes
When they match the speed and durability of the winchester model 12 I'll think about looking at it
SxS and over unders are the most reliable platforms. Quality clay guns have been known to go over a million shells. Even a 2000 dollar browning can pretty easily make 100,000 shells with basic Maintenance
I've got a Model 12, too. And I have a 20-guage European side by side. Both are outstanding. I've got some others, too. A person who wants a nice double gun should get one. No need to choose between the Model 12 and the double. Own both!
@@patrickh9226 i had a nice over and under Ithaca 12 a few years ago but i got in a tight and had to sell it and my 37 I'm still kicking myself.
@@CCH-R browning was one of the two designers of model 12 Winchester , it was in standard production from 1912 till 1964 with special production runs up until 2006. It served in 2 world wars and Korea and Vietnam. Those are hard states to beat.
@@mikebeddingfield2144 yes that’s all true but they are not in the same class. Yes they are work shotguns but go to a huge clay event or upland bird spot and over under and SxS dominate because they are more robust and can withstand tens of thousands of shells.
Manufacturing? Who and where is RFM?
Una elegancia de arma amigos bellezas
Wow. I've just got into the sport. Looking for my first over/under this may be it!
Having a gun custom built to your fit is an excellent step, but usually not this early in the sport. If you are just starting out, you probably still do not have your gun mount established, and your fit will likely be off.
16 bore in side by side? Need nothing else.
Had to watch until the price point. A friend is buying his daughter her first shotgun, he will DIY it to fit before paying their exorbitant prices. They (Upland) might as well close their doors now we anit gonna go for that. Ask these nice people how many they buy.
Now if they would make double rifles.
Steve, constructive criticism more shots, angles, and overall b-roll footage of the guns. Less time watching you two guys talk. Your both good looking dudes but we want to see the guns.
24&32 guage,,pardon me,,where do you find shells for those,,,????just curious. :)
Ballistic Products Inc. My friend!!!
I’ve got guns in both gauges, federal and fiocchi make ammo for both and you can buy stuff to load your own easy. Videos of them are on my channel.
3006 +12gua+3.5 mag over under?
Capehart
Most hunters won't spend $1000 on a shotgun. $2000 is going to be a hard sell to a hunter whos gun goes through some rough and nasty cover and is going to get scratches in the wood.
This a good topic for conversation, but picking up a shotgun and then the options, it becomes very expensive. Where is the value add in all this! Besides this is a company, not known very well. In a few years, they will disappear when their guns do not sell. Who will take up their warranty? Good luck.
RFM has been in business since the 1950s...
Can you build a gun matching my K-80 competition gun and increase weight to 13 pounds in a side by side.
Hi Rob 👋
Too expensive for me. I'll use my old H&R 12ga.
Beautiful shotguns but honestly, you lost me at 2k and up from there.
Nice shotguns but 2000 for a cheap shotgun?
I have a Stoeger side by side and it has a hog tusk scar on it. 2000 for a shotgun to hunt skeet and birds I guess is OK if you got extra money just walking fields and ranges but not for a bush gun. Hell hunting hogs on the ground you may have to drop the gun and climb a tree. So 1500 dollars less may not be elegant but sure more effecient.
Fabarm please
The base price model is well beyond what I'd spend on a shotgun. Give me a Remington 870 or a Mossberg 500 any day , they last forever.
Steven 👋
This is an apples to oranges comparison
golf clapp .... 2 grande noty
$1000 plus shotguns. Nice guns but too nice. $300-600 shotgun that’s USA made that I can actually hunt with in the brush and bad weather conditions
I would love to have a sxs with two sets of barrels
One set for birds with choke tubes and one set with fully rifled barrels for slugs (deer hunting) with a base for a red dot site
Boeder
Love your channel. Just started watching your How To Series. Unable to comment there. I’m right handed but left eyed. Something I should have told the instructor in basic training my first trip to the range. LOL.
I’m curious about something personal. You obviously have hair so what’s the reason behind wearing a backwards one-size-fits-nobody baseball cap? Just looks weird to me but you seem to be of above average intelligence so I’m curious as to the reason.
Where are they made? Turkey you can find some old US made guns cheaper and better, browning is good Japanese quality, Italy that is better, but I like old American savage with cheap wood,or Remingtons.
Johnson
@@lauramcelhiney duck or duk
@@kennardjohnson7875 meaning ? Where are you from ? 🤧
@@lauramcelhiney oh texas
@@lauramcelhiney how bout yourself
these guns look really good, until he pulled out the "base" $2000 model and showed it comes with a plastic buttpad, like really? couldn't even just throw on a rubber one for $2000
Buy a AH Fox and never look back
Those are grade four ?......
the best bro love ypur honest reviews
2k ain’t cheap tho I spent 800 on a stoeger m3500
Ya and you still have a Stoeger shoot yours then ask someone at a gun club to try their $2000+ shotgun and you’ll immediately know the difference but hey they both go bang but theres much to say for a more expensive smokepole. You get most time what you pay for
@@FYMM69 I’m just saying 2000$ ain’t cheap especially at 15
@@cameronhead4086 🙄
@@FYMM69 I said it ain’t cheap that’s why I shoot a stoeger
@@cameronhead4086 hey it doesn’t matter what someone chooses to shoot, if you like it and it gets the job done reliability then that’s all that counts
It's steve
In Other words these people are just the middleman
I seen guys all my life buy very expensive shotguns from gun shops and then take em home , shoot ‘em ,,only to find out the gun shoots eight inches high and six inches left then sell it for beans not knowing that there is something that could be done to fix the problem,,,therefore this gun company’s idea should relate to a lot of different hunters.
Bobby green 👋
@@lauramcelhiney I don’t know how many I’ve bought in my life that shot no where close to the bead.
@@bobbygreen2291 Where are you from ? Howdy 👋 from Indianapolis, What social media you got ?
@@lauramcelhiney North Carolina hillbilly here ,,I am retired from everything except my dog and garden ,,I used to hunt or fish every day when younger but anymore I just walk the dog , cook clean , garden and stay at home.
@@bobbygreen2291 Do you phone text. ? 😎
Why do you wear that cap backwards?
It seems that they really don't do anyone any favors for your otherwise good looks?
If you're actively shooting, with a scope or camera, flipping it 'round makes sense, but after...ok, back to video
Can I send my own wood?
América was made in the single chotgun were are
United States
Very interesting! I've been looking for a long time for a shotgun like this! Like the vid says, you're not going to get a gun like this for 2 grand!! I'm definitely going to check this out!! WOW!! I'm excited! And I haven't been excited like this for a long time!!
Hi Mike 👋😊
I got a midland single barrel shotgun for $119, takes Beretta chokes!
I bought a Mossberg Maverick 88 for under $200 @ Walmart recently. I added a Magpul SGA stock that gave me a custom fit. I honestly love the stock, fit, & feel. Custom fit shotgun for $300. It's just not as pretty! I would feel silly spending $2,000 on a shotgun, but that's just me.
And not to mention when you slip or fall and take a soil core sample in the barrel, you feel a lot better when it happens to the 300 dollar gun and not the big $$$$ gun
Just like no one who is in the market for a Porsche is considering a Kia, nobody is cross-shopping an Italian double shotgun with a pump gun from Wal*Mart.
Mossberg NEVER lets you down.....EVER
But the 88 still feel like junk in the hands
@@lesleyboeder1798 Yet, they are extremely dependable & get the job done!
Decent looking gun but 2 grand for a fudd gun not me
Base 2 grand. Hell fuckin no !
TEST THE MOST POWERFUL GUN TO BRING DOWN AS MANY GEESE AS POSSIBLE IN A SINGLE SHOT SHORT RANGE LONG RANGE 🎯
That's way too pricey for a gun to hunt with and markup
Keeton 👋
Its all about how many geese you can bring down with a single shot wider patterns
And you e been shooting for how long ??
20 years I'm waiting for the wider patterns in long range the gun that brings down as many geese in a single shot.
@@FYMM69 I killed my first goose when I was 11 where I'm from we don't have growing food we had to eat animals to provide for our lives for thousands of years and the tradition of animal hunting is still going on in our indigenous lifestyle. But I want to be a vegan I know eating animals is not really the right way of living as I got older and I've never hunted ever since I realized that a few years ago I would much teach the world that eating fruits and plants is healthy and right.
I'm glad that you got to test these guns with little expense but you can never compete with Mossberg shotguns.
Wider patterns test short range long range to bring down as many games with a single shot
$2000 and up for a new gun? No thanks. There are cheaper options that work just as well.
CZ makes far better shotguns that look way better than that $2000 side-by-side piece of junk
obvious not for blue collar guy, married, kids, mortgage, truck payment. A guy scraps 2K together he better buy the kids new clothes. get real with this.
TEST THE GUNS FOR WIDER PATTERNS FOR BRINGING DOWN GEESE AS MANY AS POSSIBLE WITH A SINGLE SHOT LONG RANGE
Beautiful guns, no doubt. But $2000?! I'll stick with my grandpap's Savage Fox side by side from 1954.
Furthermore, these are made in Brescia, Italy.
To buy a "new" Savage Fox, would set you back a bit more than $2k... Connecticut Shotgun Mfg is/was the one making them, and the basic one would start at around $38,000...