It's a lot of buildup of material in the corners that concerns me. If you build up the corner eighth of an inch or so then your field has to have extra mud on it or it'll have a dip.
So, I notice that it looks like standard drywall screws are holding up the drywall. Do you not need to use ss or maybe backer board screws to hold up the drywall when in direct contact with the thinset? Will it not weaken the hold of the drywall by possible corrosion with the contact of thinset and drywall screws?
Alex Moreno, thin set mortar is no more corrosive than joint compound. Drywall screws are designed to provide the best grip. Since Kerdi makes the surface waterproof no fastener would sustain corrosion.
I suggest to look into a mortar specifications so there is different types of mortars that bond to certain types of surfaces also has to be good to bond the kerdi... so you are looking for a non modified or unmodified mortar
Many other how-to videos show that you wet the drywall with a sponge, just like you would for backerboard. You didn't do it here. Biggest problem with do-it-yourselfers: conflicting installation procedures. Even some Schluter stuff is confusing, like modified vs non-modified mortar. Schluter All-Set is modified, yet they and also other videos say to use un-modified.
This guy is a genius at creating repeat business. He will never buy out of work. A year from now he'll be reselling this guy in the shower. Drywall in the shower. Wow
Absolutely nothing wrong with drywall in the shower if you use Schlueter! Guaranteed for 10 years! Schlueter is absolutely the best product on the market! You should attend one of their classes. They are free and you can learn alot.
I’m not a big fan of this system. I had trouble with the membrane installation as described in this video. I’ve installed tile many times before and I’m relatively good working a trowel. I watched tons of these videos and the process looked very simple but for some reason the membrane didn’t like consistently sticking to the non-modified thinset. I had good coverage and wetted the backer board before applying the mortar as instructed by this guy and many others. I worked out all the air bubbles and it felt evenly installed. Well... I came back later and ran my hand back over the membrane and could feel a few pockets of air which previously were not there. I have no idea why it didn’t stay in the mortar it’s a brand new flat wall made of backer board. I’m considering just giving up and installing a waterproof foam board system over top of it, I don’t think the tiles are going to secure very well to this fleece membrane considering the fleece didn’t want to stick to the backer board.
Why would you use this product over backerboard/cement board? This defeats the purpose. The Kerdi membrane is the "cement board" substrate that is needed for tiling. Did you use non-modified mortar (aka regular cement mortar) and get it very loose, not like mortar that holds it shape (after slaking) to apply to the membrane? Also, (moot point), since you used cement board, did you wipe it down with a damp sponge prior to applying non-mod mortar?
Never seen anyone use regular drywall behind a shower. Schluter System or not I would never use regular drywall behind a shower installation. Is it to save money?
God'sToys Cheaper and easier (don't have to switch from drywall to cement board when you get to shower/tub area) and just as effective if you're using the KERDI membrane.
Alex Moreno No. There is absolutely nothing that needs to be done before putting the Kerdi over regular drywall other than making sure all the nails/screws are flush or below the surface of the drywall. This is so it doesn't poke through the Kerdi. And BTW, you DON'T have to cover the seams or the screws with mud before you put the Kerdi on either. Although Kerdi is quite a bit more expensive than conventional cement board it is SOOO worth it. I've done multiple showers the old-school way and multiple showers with Kerdi - and Kerdi wins 100%. There is no close second.
No, you are wrong! Schlueter is the best product made! You can go right over drywall with ABSOLUTELY NO PROBLEM! Plus, a 10 year guarantee! The fabric has a vapor barrier built in! No moisture can go through it! No vapor can penetrate it! Schlueter products are the best
@@michaelhorn9114 I can also make an argument that you are more prone to failures if you use backer board instead of drywall, for example not moistening the CMB and it sucks all the water out of the thinset. Also I can see more chances of ununiformed adhesion to the membrane using backer board.
It does suck if you dont do it every day I dont do tile by trade and did this to two showers in my house and it wore me out.they make it look easy I had thinset everywhere
Very informative. I'm Going to install some for my first time and this really shows the process!!
Nicely done... I feel more confident that I can do this bathroom I'm on...
Be careful. There is a tremendous amount of problems with this system and it can drive you nuts or ruin your job or both.
@@dannylee5588 Can you elaborate...
Can you put your 5" corner on right away or do need to let it dry first
It's a lot of buildup of material in the corners that concerns me. If you build up the corner eighth of an inch or so then your field has to have extra mud on it or it'll have a dip.
I installed a waterproof drywall, then used a unmodified morter and the membrane barely is sticking, help?
So, I notice that it looks like standard drywall screws are holding up the drywall. Do you not need to use ss or maybe backer board screws to hold up the drywall when in direct contact with the thinset?
Will it not weaken the hold of the drywall by possible corrosion with the contact of thinset and drywall screws?
Alex Moreno, thin set mortar is no more corrosive than joint compound. Drywall screws are designed to provide the best grip. Since Kerdi makes the surface waterproof no fastener would sustain corrosion.
Hes talking about the weight. ....you need more screws in the wall bloard to accommodate the weight of the tile ....
what if the walls away from the shower are painted with a 1-2-3 bulleye primer..can I put the Kerdi on this?
I suggest to look into a mortar specifications so there is different types of mortars that bond to certain types of surfaces also has to be good to bond the kerdi... so you are looking for a non modified or unmodified mortar
Can you put Kerdi on a painted wall?
Can you use kerdi membrane on shower cieling with 12 by 24 inch tile
yep dont worry
Modified thin set ?
No you want regular without glue added
can u put Kerdi over a cement shower pan?
yes it does can
Many other how-to videos show that you wet the drywall with a sponge, just like you would for backerboard. You didn't do it here. Biggest problem with do-it-yourselfers: conflicting installation procedures. Even some Schluter stuff is confusing, like modified vs non-modified mortar. Schluter All-Set is modified, yet they and also other videos say to use un-modified.
Forgot to wet the drywall before hand.
Your supposed to wipe it with wet sponge prior to mortar application
no buddy they gave it a drink
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This guy is a genius at creating repeat business. He will never buy out of work. A year from now he'll be reselling this guy in the shower. Drywall in the shower. Wow
Absolutely nothing wrong with drywall in the shower if you use Schlueter! Guaranteed for 10 years! Schlueter is absolutely the best product on the market! You should attend one of their classes. They are free and you can learn alot.
what's the UK version of Kerdi? good pro job mate...
...Kerdi.
I’m not a big fan of this system. I had trouble with the membrane installation as described in this video. I’ve installed tile many times before and I’m relatively good working a trowel. I watched tons of these videos and the process looked very simple but for some reason the membrane didn’t like consistently sticking to the non-modified thinset. I had good coverage and wetted the backer board before applying the mortar as instructed by this guy and many others. I worked out all the air bubbles and it felt evenly installed. Well... I came back later and ran my hand back over the membrane and could feel a few pockets of air which previously were not there. I have no idea why it didn’t stay in the mortar it’s a brand new flat wall made of backer board. I’m considering just giving up and installing a waterproof foam board system over top of it, I don’t think the tiles are going to secure very well to this fleece membrane considering the fleece didn’t want to stick to the backer board.
This is exactly what happened to me. Worst thing on earth. What a waste of time and money. It does not stick to wall good enough to hold tile.
Why would you use this product over backerboard/cement board? This defeats the purpose. The Kerdi membrane is the "cement board" substrate that is needed for tiling. Did you use non-modified mortar (aka regular cement mortar) and get it very loose, not like mortar that holds it shape (after slaking) to apply to the membrane? Also, (moot point), since you used cement board, did you wipe it down with a damp sponge prior to applying non-mod mortar?
Drywall is not the proper backerboard to be used in showers. Better choices exist today. Kerdi is excellent for vapor control as well.
@@tryan7 actually schluter says use drywall
Never seen anyone use regular drywall behind a shower. Schluter System or not I would never use regular drywall behind a shower installation. Is it to save money?
God'sToys Cheaper and easier (don't have to switch from drywall to cement board when you get to shower/tub area) and just as effective if you're using the KERDI membrane.
FEAR CHANGE!
+motionblurrr What about the screws? Would you change out the drywall screws for non corrosive kind? Like for backerboard or ss?
Alex Moreno No. There is absolutely nothing that needs to be done before putting the Kerdi over regular drywall other than making sure all the nails/screws are flush or below the surface of the drywall. This is so it doesn't poke through the Kerdi. And BTW, you DON'T have to cover the seams or the screws with mud before you put the Kerdi on either. Although Kerdi is quite a bit more expensive than conventional cement board it is SOOO worth it. I've done multiple showers the old-school way and multiple showers with Kerdi - and Kerdi wins 100%. There is no close second.
+NorthernChev I would never use drywall in a shower. Even if water does not get there, moisture will find a way, Then mold and rot.
Drywall in a shower omg!! Idc if your covering it with a membrane just bad idea.
No, you are wrong! Schlueter is the best product made! You can go right over drywall with ABSOLUTELY NO PROBLEM! Plus, a 10 year guarantee! The fabric has a vapor barrier built in! No moisture can go through it! No vapor can penetrate it! Schlueter products are the best
@@michaelhorn9114 I can also make an argument that you are more prone to failures if you use backer board instead of drywall, for example not moistening the CMB and it sucks all the water out of the thinset. Also I can see more chances of ununiformed adhesion to the membrane using backer board.
I hate putting Kerdi on the walls. It sucks and it's so slow. Good quality but there are better and faster ways
Jeff, can you elaborate? I've talked to a few people who are thrilled with it and find install easy...trying to decide which way to go.
It does suck if you dont do it every day I dont do tile by trade and did this to two showers in my house and it wore me out.they make it look easy I had thinset everywhere
@@lauriesmith1164 definitely go with Schlueter! It is the best product on the market
Worst product on the market to buy. Never buy it. You will cry after working your asz off like a slave for days. This system is a trash
Mud looks a little TIGHT
I wouldn't spend another red cent on that crap duroc is so much easier and better