this is one of the best videos i have seen. No bullshitting, no acting ALL knowledgeable,and keeping it real. Nice glue job. Id say that when you start laying pipe, if you leave a long piece in you can tell where you are going and bed it in as you go. Leaving the top of the pipe exposed, and holding the trunkline still. good job!
I am starting this project in the lower level of my raised ranch. You speak clearly and consciously and that's a skill set in its self., Thank you so much for taking the time to do this video. This is going to help me out a great deal!!
this is one of the best videos i have seen. No bullshitting, no acting ALL knowledgeable,and keeping it real. Nice glue job. Id say that when you start laying pipe, if you leave a long piece in you can tell where you are going and bed it in as you go. Leaving the top of the pipe exposed, and holding the trunkline still.
Thank you for that video sir. My concrete is out now and today was digging day. I wasn't sure for the shower part but looking at your installation and comparing it to mine well it reassured me. A plumber was asking $5000 for a similar job, but eh!, I've got time ahead of me and hopefully it will look just as good as your job. I love youtube:)
Everything moves differently when you glue it. Pipes go deeper into fittings, you learned that fact the same way we "pro's" learn it. Happens to us all once. You did a great job, neat with the primer and glue, looks great bud.
Quick pro tip. Normally its not required but it is preferred, the shower should be put as the first fixture in your branch as the toilet when flushed it creates drag specially being in a horizontal Y that will vent toilet and shower that brings me to the next problem. This isnt a wet vent. It is still considered a dry vent as the Y 1/8 vent from the p trap shower will be dry which is illegal. If a blockage does ever happened and that portion of the pipe has blockage you will have problems with toilet and shower and now potentially running that trap dry when flushing the toilet by creating siphon. So remember to add a clean out on that vent as it is a must at this point since it's considered a dry vent. A wet vent is considered a a fixture that will drains and will as well as vent vertically. A clean out is always added in this. You can vent a restroom with a single wet vent. Now lastly. As i explain in the beginning, we dont use horizontal vents and if so it is required to always have a clean out. A better way should always be a stack vent that will vent vertically and catch the drain using a sand tee.
I've been a union plumber for over 50 years and I've never needed nor have I ever purposely plumbed a wet vent. If you use one in California expect to fail the plbg. inspection.
I am about to start almost the same project. I have to install an ejector pump also. The part where you extended your cleanout to add the pump discharge. This is exactly what I needed to know! Thank you!
UA-camr's are always so critical on trade job videos. Everyone's an expert on the internet. This video is great, I'm about to do basically the exact same job, great to hear it's working smoothly.
Plumbing is completely different monster from anything else either get it or you don’t and I’ll hundred percent agree with everything you did and the mistakes that you made because I made the same one and I’m by no means pro so this video helped out a lot on my first planning of a basement rough out, cause I’m always used torepairing plumbing, which is crazy sometimes but it’s always better to have a stable base to build off of than it is to try and work with a bunch of loose fittings
For DiY'ers, be VERY careful drilling holes through floor joists. They support A LOT of weight and there is a maximum amount of material you can remove from joist before they lose strength and you have to start reinforcing the joists. According to code the hole's diameter is limited to one-third the depth of the material. For example, for a 2x8 (1-1/2"x7-1/4" actually), the maximum hole diameter is 2-3/8". So, technically, his 2-1/2" holes violate code, though it is VERY close and probably okay, but double check your local jurisdiction as it applies to your project. There are techniques for strengthening joists with cut out material.
Great tip! You also want to be sure to remove the material as close to the center of the joist as possible; I noticed several of his that were probably closer to the bottom of the joist than they should be, where there is a lot of weight and pressure that could eventually crack the remaining material. Here's hoping that doesn't happen to him!
To all the UA-cam experts, code citing clowns, and Debbie downers: 4 years later (project was completed June, 2014) and I'm happy to report that I have had ZERO issues with this install. That's right NONE! So to all the BS comments I've gotten over the years (most of which I delete because it's just not worth my time) maybe you should just go have a beer instead of being a tool and striking the keys on your keyboard like you're some plumbing god. Or better yet, post a video of your install so we can criticize you as well, Cheers! Jackhammer: amzn.to/3nc1lp5 Trenching Shovel: amzn.to/3qOOUR4 Sewage pit and pump combo: amzn.to/3f02ziJ Toilet Flange: amzn.to/3JMLU0f
You're always going to have shit for brains commenting, just ignore them. Quite an undertaking for someone that doesn't do this as their day job. Curious what is your normal job?
Greetings from Malaysia. Great video, narrative and honesty. I like the way you solved the venting without compromising the layout. Takes a lot of thinking. This video has clarity. Helps me with my work, especially working on tight space. I give this video an A+
Exactly Jared Foster. It's almost like they can't help themselves. I watch many a video on UA-cam. The know it alls are everywhere in full force citing that they're self proclaimed "code experts" or the leader of the "safety brigade". Some people really need to lighten up and enjoy life a little more. Take a UA-cam video for what it's worth. If I had 10 so called "pros" come to my house to do a job, you better believe they would have 6-7 different approaches to it with each of them calling the other guy a moron for the way he did his installation.
+zimsjeep Thank you This was great in so many ways, I am a master Electrician, And need a little help on this Plumbing. >??? you keep slope 1 in for every 4 feet is that the same on every drain pipe?? you use 2 in PVC for shower and 11/4 for sinks?
+Alton Labrecque Yeah, 1/4" per foot pitch. Check your local code for pipe sizing. Changes by location what is the minimum required. Generally speaking, if you're wet venting you'll also need to upsize as well.
zimsjeep good job man, very very informational . I'm going to basically be doing the same job for an in law apt in my basement. what pump would you recommend for what is going to be used for is bathroom and a kitchen? is 1/2hp enough? thanks for the video
Zimsjeep, nice job. I would like to add, only to help viewers, that some of the design wouldn't be legal in my state. Specifically: 1) wet venting a toilet, 2) the bar sink drain having more than 1 90-degree turn before the vent (2, 45's count as one 90). My important message is that not all plumbing codes are the same, especially between US Northern and Southern states, then there's California. I would recommend to DIY viewers (who are having an inspection) who aren't 100% sure to use the city inspector to review the design (at city hall, they usually don't make house calls) prior to doing the work. My state allows homeowners to perform their own work. Some states do not (ridiculous). I also LOVE that you showed you messed up, ripped it all out, and did it again. For viewers: plumbing is an amazingly simple, yet complex trade. Complex due to the rules, like, why a Y fitting and not a T fitting, like, how many traps per what size vent, like, your telling me a 3 inch waste line can service 2 toilets, but when I add a 3rd toilet I have to use a 4 inch, like, always add a backflow (backwater) fitting for the branch going from the main line to the new branch line and I have to have access to it when it is underground, like, pressure testing drain lines, etc. If in doubt, try and use your public resource...and don't let the inspector bully you out of doing it yourself. Amazingly, some inspectors develop a god complex. Sad but true.
Thanks for the comment man. I agree 100 percent with everything you said. Everyone definitely needs to check their local codes. What's legal for me or you might not be elsewhere. I think that's where a lot of the confusion and finger pointing comes from on a UA-cam diy video.
plumber helper two 45 equal a 90 ? which makes it illegal? What the fak you talking about... 2 45s is fine its called a long sweep which is fine. Unless Im not getting what your trying to say....And his toilet is vented with the wet vent..Is it legal prob not with code. However whats the chance of him flushing the toilet and using 2 sinks all at the same time. For a homeowner job..Damn good job here ! Ive seen plumbers do worse work!
Great video thanks. If my back wasn't wrecked I'd be doing the work myself. Instead I'll contract out the rough in and then finish the job myself. I still wanted an understanding of the work and your video definitely gave me that. Thanks again.
great video.....been a plumber for whole Lotta years. awesome job.....believe it or not I was shaking my head no watching video when you started talking about fitting all fittings together before you glue it....until u debunked it. great job sir
I second this, trying to figure out how to get my existing basement shower drain moved and prevent sewer gas from coming out of the drain. Big help with this video.
Absolutely what I need, thanks!!! I am raising the garage floor about 12 inches and relocate the toilet , add two sink vanity shower and tub, all drain into one drainage. Can all use one vent?
Just a little advise. When you dry fit your pvc use a sharpie marker. And draw a line and a number on your pvc everything will line back up. Also the reason why your stuff didn’t line up is because. It was dry fitted. So it wasn’t pushed all the way into the fitting. When you primed and glued it everything. Would of been shorter that what you needed. Just a little help. But what a great job man. I’m looking to do the same to my basement .
Albert Scialla Thanks, I figured that would happen before I started but read in a lot of places to do it. So against my better judgement, I did and was obviously disappointed when I realized my original assumption was correct. Ohh well, live and learn. Thanks for the compliments
Hey man what ever works you know. It looks like a nice clean job. I want to make a UA-cam video when I do my project but I have no clue how. Lol I’m not very tech savvy
Thanks for posting this, looking to do about the same setup in my semi-finished basement. I saw your final video and the finished product turned out fantastic. Nice work man, if mine turns out even close to that good my wife and I will be very pleased!
Hi mate I did the same thing installing drains and storm water mocked it all up then glued it was a shit fight went down the store and started again and did it in segments. Nice basement, don't see them in Australia very often.
Thanks for the comment, appreciate it. Yes, mocking up PVC for an exact fit before gluing rarely works correctly if you need everything to line up 100 percent. I much rather "glue as I go" and work with a tape measure to get everything right. Basement has been great and by far and away the best improvement I've made to our house.
Great work! I see from your main connecting your sink and toilet share a dry vent and towards your shower main it has its own dry vent connection as well. I wanted to ask if those were necessary if it all goes back to the ejector pit, which has a vent as well? Just wanted some clarification if everything that has a P-trap or plumbing fixture needs connection to a dry vent, if not, is it okay to just route the piping from the shower and toilet to the ejector pit and use the ejector pit vent to to ventilate for the other plumbing fixtures ?
In the words of Shakespeare. To dry fit or not to dry fit, that is the question. I usually dry fit and I mark the pieces where they connect with a permanent marker. I know guys that glue almost every piece as it goes. Which is "right"? If it works, it is right. Thanks for the videos.
codes were written for reasons. other wise,,, i think you did pretty good. i could pick it apart all day... you had a vtr vent through roof.. luckily, the hardest part of a basement ad .. ( a subsoils system) is getting a vent through roof. much of the expence... the code use to be two vents.. plumbing and tank,,, thank god that changed. it was a nightmare.
I always dry fit. But when you dry fit make sure you use a gold paint marker while you dry fit. Lay it all out exactly how it's supposed to be. Write A to A - B to B. That way when you reassemble and glue you just like your letters up.
This was a very well done video. Thanks for doing it. I got a new house with an unfinished basement that was stubbed for a bathroom and didn't know what all of the unused pipes were for. This was a big help.
Excellent video, well explained step by step, I'm planning to do the same project and your video is one of the best I've seen so far, thank you for taking the time to make this video , I just need to ask you : do I need a vent for each point or is there a way to do just one vent for all ?👍
Toilet needs vent .. in my area. Every fixture need individual vent. Except the doble vanity but. In this case I think u reached the minimum in the duty arm I think need vent as well . Is more than 4'3. The rest. All good nice and clean ..! 👍🏻
I know everyone gets mad when people comment with corrections. I also know that the code is over engineered and things will work if it’s not technically up to code. However, that depends on what it is. Some things are code to cover every possibility and others are code because they have to be done a certain way. If you do it the way in the video you will most likely fail inspection and have to redo a bunch of things. The most time consuming will be the kitchen drain. That drain is like 10’ of pipe from the vent. If it’s graded at 1/4”/ft then in 6’ the vent opening is below the bottom of the pipe which means it’s cut off and might as well not be there. There’s a vent right above that wall and he chipped up the concrete so why not take the time and run a proper 2” drain and vent. Also the vents underground are laying flat so that’s also a cut off vent so there’s effectively only one fixture that’s vented and that’s the lavatory. Why put a 2” drain for the lav and an 1 1/2” drain for the sink. It should be the other way around. A kitchen puts out much more water and 2” would give you more pipe length from the vent. He also used short 90s on drains. This will eventually cause draining issues. I appreciate that this guy is trying to help people but he ought to include a caveat that he’s does not know code. I’m not someone who cares that a homeowner does their own plumbing or even if it’s wrong but don’t tell everyone else how to do it when you don’t know what you’re doing. I grew up building houses with my dad and I’m a plumber by trade. I know plumbing and little bits of everything else. I’ve helped roof houses but I’m not a roofer and would never instruct someone on how to do it.
zimsjeep well you’d damn sure have it up to code. Funny, the arrogant people who get mad when criticized or corrected are usually the people who are wrong most often. Knowledgeable people are usually knowledgeable because they don’t assume they already know everything and are willing to learn. My goal wasn’t to antagonize you but to hopefully persuade people to not to blindly learn from your video but to do more research so they don’t end up wasting time and money
Just a tip use a concrete saw instead of a jack hammer it’s a quicker and better way of doing it and to code u should drill rebar into each side staggered from side to side every 18 inches with a vapor barrier for radon. You tube should really make it so only licensed plumbers can up load plumbing videos of plumbing installs.
Mike Kroepfl Nahh, concrete saw will take you forever along with the dust, no need for all that jazz with the plastic in my area. Thanks for the comment and for watching
Awesome job! I'm a plumber by trade and can honestly you did a cleaner neater job than a lot of plumbers I have personally met that have done plumbing for a living for years. Also your correct dry fitting never works lol it's a pet peeve of mine haha
Its funny cause I used to be scared and dry vent and it made shit worse. Now I look back and realize just gotta be confident and ask questions when needed and go for it! Hell of a job !
Your a plumber so how much money for a job like this rough in plumbing for bath toilet and sink inside concrete that has to be cut? No fixtures installed just rough in plumbing.
Great work, would have been nice to show the final plumbing from the pit - important to include the ball valve to facilitate pump maintenance (you mention it, but others many not pick up your comment). Suggest adding an alarm in case the pump fails - don't want stuff all over. I put the pump on a separate 20amp circuit. Warn people not to use the bathroom if power is out, unless you have battery backup for pump.
You're supposed to plumb the shower drain to the showers mortar base. I'm sure you had a slight issue with that. But other than that everything looked kickass
"How does the sewage pump work?" Similar to a toilet. It is pretty much a shit pit. There is a float inside that will activate the pump when the shit gets too high. If you have a basement that is below the city main, you have to have a sump pump or a special macerating toilet with pump to move the waste uphill and into the city main. There can be issues. The float mechanism can go out on you and that is usually found out AFTER the worst possible scenario of overflowing doo doo is experienced. Not the best gig to repair that mess.
I really appreciate your videos on this basement remodel, especially the slab plumbing - that is the part I've had the most concern with doing myself. I feel a lot more confident now. And I agree about the dry fit thing. Every time I saw someone do that, I always thought, how can you get it all back in the same place after you dry fit it? It just seemed like it would all shift and get messed up.
MidnightMoon Thanks, glad to help. Once you get going with this project, you'll soon realize it's really easy work, just back breaking moving all the sand, dirt, and concrete. I got a good workout carrying 5 gallon buckets up and down my basement stairs
Dry fit all the time I just put a sharpie line on both pieces in several places on same pieces. Never had a problem. Sometimes it’s a wrestling match getting them off but lining up after no problems.
for diy this is excellent, note you may want to consider ... double sanitary tee shouldnt be used in that way, double wye with fitting 45s is code most of the time. drainage can cross and closs if both sinks used at once. trap arm length must be at least double pipe size diameter, so.. 2" pipe will be 4" of pipe between tee and and 90
Thanks. I actually talked to a few pros on a plumbing forum and showed them the layout. They suggested the double sanitary tee. Thanks for the tips though. I can understand what you're saying and the problems that may arise. So far so good. Almost a year in and no issues with heavy usage.
Myron Smith I did that initially and still had an issue. I guess different methods for all of us. For me, cutting and building the piping as I went was easier. Thanks for the comment
The problem with that is there is always a little bit of error when you line them back up. Even if it looks like it's "perfect", you can't expect it to be better than 0.5mm or 0.02". Those errors get magnified exponentially because you're dealing with long lengths and compound angles. I've never done it with plumbing, but even on fitting a custom exhaust on a car it didn't work out as expected, and those are smaller distances with only one branch and less stringent requirements.
So that vent by the shower serves the toilet as well? Seems pretty far away. If that's the case isn't doesn't the sink vent fulfill the same purpose? By wet vent do you mean that the shower drain doubles as a vent for the toilet?
Thank you so much. You helped me. I appreciated the fact that you show your mistakes so people would not do the same. Most UA-cam video only show the finished work God/Jesus bless you.
Posted 9 years ago and I still think it’s the best, easiest video to watch on this.
this is what UA-cam is all about.
Excellent. People helping people.
Well said!!
this is one of the best videos i have seen. No bullshitting, no acting ALL knowledgeable,and keeping it real. Nice glue job. Id say that when you start laying pipe, if you leave a long piece in you can tell where you are going and bed it in as you go. Leaving the top of the pipe exposed, and holding the trunkline still.
good job!
JR Stephens Thanks man, really appreciate it.
I am starting this project in the lower level of my raised ranch. You speak clearly and consciously and that's a skill set in its self., Thank you so much for taking the time to do this video. This is going to help me out a great deal!!
this is one of the best videos i have seen. No bullshitting, no acting ALL knowledgeable,and keeping it real. Nice glue job. Id say that when you start laying pipe, if you leave a long piece in you can tell where you are going and bed it in as you go. Leaving the top of the pipe exposed, and holding the trunkline still.
Thank you, appreciate it!
Thank you for that video sir. My concrete is out now and today was digging day. I wasn't sure for the shower part but looking at your installation and comparing it to mine well it reassured me. A plumber was asking $5000 for a similar job, but eh!, I've got time ahead of me and hopefully it will look just as good as your job. I love youtube:)
Everything moves differently when you glue it. Pipes go deeper into fittings, you learned that fact the same way we "pro's" learn it. Happens to us all once. You did a great job, neat with the primer and glue, looks great bud.
Victor Bingo Thank you buddy. Yes I learned the hard way but at least got it fixed before I moved on. Live and learn.
Quick pro tip. Normally its not required but it is preferred, the shower should be put as the first fixture in your branch as the toilet when flushed it creates drag specially being in a horizontal Y that will vent toilet and shower that brings me to the next problem. This isnt a wet vent. It is still considered a dry vent as the Y 1/8 vent from the p trap shower will be dry which is illegal. If a blockage does ever happened and that portion of the pipe has blockage you will have problems with toilet and shower and now potentially running that trap dry when flushing the toilet by creating siphon. So remember to add a clean out on that vent as it is a must at this point since it's considered a dry vent. A wet vent is considered a a fixture that will drains and will as well as vent vertically. A clean out is always added in this. You can vent a restroom with a single wet vent. Now lastly. As i explain in the beginning, we dont use horizontal vents and if so it is required to always have a clean out. A better way should always be a stack vent that will vent vertically and catch the drain using a sand tee.
Thata what vents are for
I've been a union plumber for over 50 years and I've never needed nor have I ever purposely plumbed a wet vent. If you use one in California expect to fail the plbg. inspection.
I am about to start almost the same project. I have to install an ejector pump also. The part where you extended your cleanout to add the pump discharge. This is exactly what I needed to know! Thank you!
UA-camr's are always so critical on trade job videos. Everyone's an expert on the internet. This video is great, I'm about to do basically the exact same job, great to hear it's working smoothly.
Plumbing is completely different monster from anything else either get it or you don’t and I’ll hundred percent agree with everything you did and the mistakes that you made because I made the same one and I’m by no means pro so this video helped out a lot on my first planning of a basement rough out, cause I’m always used torepairing plumbing, which is crazy sometimes but it’s always better to have a stable base to build off of than it is to try and work with a bunch of loose fittings
Thank you very much for the quick response! I purchased everything I needed at Home Depot thanks to your help!
This is by far the best vid on you tube for DIY rough ins. 13min have answers alot of questions. Great job !
Thank you! I really do appreciate that. Glad you found the video helpful and good luck with your project!
I am a plumbing god and having some beers. long day....your job was better than most novices.
I don't know a thing about plumbing but for a guy who is not a pro, it looks darn clean to me! Hope it continues to not give you problems!!
+Clair Bear Thanks man...so far so good...not expecting any problems. Thanks for commenting and watching
For DiY'ers, be VERY careful drilling holes through floor joists. They support A LOT of weight and there is a maximum amount of material you can remove from joist before they lose strength and you have to start reinforcing the joists. According to code the hole's diameter is limited to one-third the depth of the material. For example, for a 2x8 (1-1/2"x7-1/4" actually), the maximum hole diameter is 2-3/8". So, technically, his 2-1/2" holes violate code, though it is VERY close and probably okay, but double check your local jurisdiction as it applies to your project. There are techniques for strengthening joists with cut out material.
Great tip! You also want to be sure to remove the material as close to the center of the joist as possible; I noticed several of his that were probably closer to the bottom of the joist than they should be, where there is a lot of weight and pressure that could eventually crack the remaining material. Here's hoping that doesn't happen to him!
To all the UA-cam experts, code citing clowns, and Debbie downers: 4 years later (project was completed June, 2014) and I'm happy to report that I have had ZERO issues with this install. That's right NONE! So to all the BS comments I've gotten over the years (most of which I delete because it's just not worth my time) maybe you should just go have a beer instead of being a tool and striking the keys on your keyboard like you're some plumbing god. Or better yet, post a video of your install so we can criticize you as well, Cheers!
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zimsjeep cool bro, farmers been doin it for years too.
You did it right. Besides the illegal vent. Didn't have a choice anyway.
My old friend use to say, "Some mf's will complain about free ice cream..". Good job!! Thanks
You're always going to have shit for brains commenting, just ignore them. Quite an undertaking for someone that doesn't do this as their day job. Curious what is your normal job?
Allot of illegal plumbing installed get permits your job wouldn't pass inspection in calif retired Insp tomy.
Greetings from Malaysia. Great video, narrative and honesty. I like the way you solved the venting without compromising the layout. Takes a lot of thinking. This video has clarity. Helps me with my work, especially working on tight space. I give this video an A+
Thank you for that! Appreciate the kind words and I’m happy to hear that the video helped you out!
Well let me say I've seen plumbers do most jobs, I am just about to tackle a job similar to this I am so thankful that you posted this thank you
Exactly Jared Foster. It's almost like they can't help themselves. I watch many a video on UA-cam. The know it alls are everywhere in full force citing that they're self proclaimed "code experts" or the leader of the "safety brigade". Some people really need to lighten up and enjoy life a little more. Take a UA-cam video for what it's worth. If I had 10 so called "pros" come to my house to do a job, you
better believe they would have 6-7 different approaches to it with each of them calling the other guy a moron for the way he did his installation.
+zimsjeep Thank you This was great in so many ways, I am a master Electrician, And need a little help on this Plumbing. >??? you keep slope 1 in for every 4 feet is that the same on every drain pipe?? you use 2 in PVC for shower and 11/4 for sinks?
+Alton Labrecque Yeah, 1/4" per foot pitch. Check your local code for pipe sizing. Changes by location what is the minimum required. Generally speaking, if you're wet venting you'll also need to upsize as well.
zimsjeep good job man, very very informational . I'm going to basically be doing the same job for an in law apt in my basement. what pump would you recommend for what is going to be used for is bathroom and a kitchen? is 1/2hp enough? thanks for the video
I do know codes
Just finished a very similar install using this video. Thank you good sir.
Good clean job. Well done. The corrected mistakes are gold in the form of experience. Nice!
Dennis Crowley thank you!
Im an HVAC guy but always curious about plumbing, great video glad I found this channel.
Supernova12034 I’m a plumbing guy and always curious about hvac lol
Excellent and proper use of all fittings. Codes matter.
Zimsjeep, nice job. I would like to add, only to help viewers, that some of the design wouldn't be legal in my state. Specifically: 1) wet venting a toilet, 2) the bar sink drain having more than 1 90-degree turn before the vent (2, 45's count as one 90). My important message is that not all plumbing codes are the same, especially between US Northern and Southern states, then there's California. I would recommend to DIY viewers (who are having an inspection) who aren't 100% sure to use the city inspector to review the design (at city hall, they usually don't make house calls) prior to doing the work. My state allows homeowners to perform their own work. Some states do not (ridiculous). I also LOVE that you showed you messed up, ripped it all out, and did it again.
For viewers: plumbing is an amazingly simple, yet complex trade. Complex due to the rules, like, why a Y fitting and not a T fitting, like, how many traps per what size vent, like, your telling me a 3 inch waste line can service 2 toilets, but when I add a 3rd toilet I have to use a 4 inch, like, always add a backflow (backwater) fitting for the branch going from the main line to the new branch line and I have to have access to it when it is underground, like, pressure testing drain lines, etc. If in doubt, try and use your public resource...and don't let the inspector bully you out of doing it yourself. Amazingly, some inspectors develop a god complex. Sad but true.
Thanks for the comment man. I agree 100 percent with everything you said. Everyone definitely needs to check their local codes. What's legal for me or you might not be elsewhere. I think that's where a lot of the confusion and finger pointing comes from on a UA-cam diy video.
plumber helper two 45 equal a 90 ? which makes it illegal? What the fak you talking about... 2 45s is fine its called a long sweep which is fine. Unless Im not getting what your trying to say....And his toilet is vented with the wet vent..Is it legal prob not with code. However whats the chance of him flushing the toilet and using 2 sinks all at the same time. For a homeowner job..Damn good job here ! Ive seen plumbers do worse work!
Great video thanks. If my back wasn't wrecked I'd be doing the work myself. Instead I'll contract out the rough in and then finish the job myself. I still wanted an understanding of the work and your video definitely gave me that. Thanks again.
stephen byrne You're welcome, thanks for watching and commenting.
great video.....been a plumber for whole Lotta years. awesome job.....believe it or not I was shaking my head no watching video when you started talking about fitting all fittings together before you glue it....until u debunked it. great job sir
Thanks for the compliment. Been almost 2 years that the bathroom has been in service. No issues or problems.
Coming from a plumber looks good man. Great job.
Thank you bud!
Thank you for this! Helping my basement apartment project out IMMENSELY!
Christopher Peck you're welcome. Good luck with the project!
I second this, trying to figure out how to get my existing basement shower drain moved and prevent sewer gas from coming out of the drain. Big help with this video.
Wow that $30 to $40 pvc mistake would cost $250 today. PVC cost thru the roof.
Thought that same thing
Copper wire, building materials all double... Corporate greed
thats a lot of very hard work. looks like you've done it very well and explain it well
Your instructions are great. Love your vide and learn much. Keep up the good work!
Thank you!!
One of the best plumbing videos I've seen and the mistake u made that you showed us was a good learning lesson. Thanks for the great video
Thank you for the kind words. Glad you found the video helpful.
Great that you took the time to make this video. Ty
Absolutely what I need, thanks!!! I am raising the garage floor about 12 inches and relocate the toilet , add two sink vanity shower and tub, all drain into one drainage. Can all use one vent?
Yes, they can all tie into a common vent
Just a little advise. When you dry fit your pvc use a sharpie marker. And draw a line and a number on your pvc everything will line back up.
Also the reason why your stuff didn’t line up is because. It was dry fitted. So it wasn’t pushed all the way into the fitting. When you primed and glued it everything. Would of been shorter that what you needed. Just a little help. But what a great job man. I’m looking to do the same to my basement .
Albert Scialla Thanks, I figured that would happen before I started but read in a lot of places to do it. So against my better judgement, I did and was obviously disappointed when I realized my original assumption was correct. Ohh well, live and learn. Thanks for the compliments
Hey man what ever works you know. It looks like a nice clean job. I want to make a UA-cam video when I do my project but I have no clue how. Lol I’m not very tech savvy
Thanks for posting this, looking to do about the same setup in my semi-finished basement. I saw your final video and the finished product turned out fantastic. Nice work man, if mine turns out even close to that good my wife and I will be very pleased!
Joey Lewis Thanks buddy, appreciate the comment. Good luck with your project!
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I think this is the best I have seen so far, thanks for taking the time out to bring us on board.
Thanks for the comment, you're welcome!
@@fixitwithzim guess what I'm back at it using the same video for my other house.
Grteat video! Thanks so much. I am just about to start a very similar basement bathroom project, and I feel so much more informed now.
Not bad brother! Nice clean Pvc primer and glue Also you can use the vent of pump for bar sink.! Lest job drilling 2x4
Hi mate I did the same thing installing drains and storm water mocked it all up then glued it was a shit fight went down the store and started again and did it in segments. Nice basement, don't see them in Australia very often.
Thanks for the comment, appreciate it. Yes, mocking up PVC for an exact fit before gluing rarely works correctly if you need everything to line up 100 percent. I much rather "glue as I go" and work with a tape measure to get everything right. Basement has been great and by far and away the best improvement I've made to our house.
I really like how you explained
Damn i want to build a master bathroom. Im not a plumber, this job looks meticulous and very professional. Maybe i need a blueprint.
Thank you!!
Great work! I see from your main connecting your sink and toilet share a dry vent and towards your shower main it has its own dry vent connection as well. I wanted to ask if those were necessary if it all goes back to the ejector pit, which has a vent as well? Just wanted some clarification if everything that has a P-trap or plumbing fixture needs connection to a dry vent, if not, is it okay to just route the piping from the shower and toilet to the ejector pit and use the ejector pit vent to to ventilate for the other plumbing fixtures ?
In the words of Shakespeare. To dry fit or not to dry fit, that is the question.
I usually dry fit and I mark the pieces where they connect with a permanent marker. I know guys that glue almost every piece as it goes. Which is "right"? If it works, it is right.
Thanks for the videos.
So true man, thank you!!
codes were written for reasons.
other wise,,, i think you did pretty good. i could pick it apart all day... you had a vtr vent through roof.. luckily, the hardest part of a basement ad .. ( a subsoils system) is getting a vent through roof. much of the expence... the code use to be two vents.. plumbing and tank,,, thank god that changed. it was a nightmare.
actually that is good advice, I never glue PVC until I'm sure everything fits. always do a dry run with any kind of plumbing
I always dry fit. But when you dry fit make sure you use a gold paint marker while you dry fit. Lay it all out exactly how it's supposed to be. Write A to A - B to B. That way when you reassemble and glue you just like your letters up.
When I hear you talk, I picture Cliff from Cheers.
Not the first time I’ve gotten that in the comments, thanks for watching!
Really nice work looks clean
Thank you!!
Hey man I'm in Jamaica and I'm an apprentice and I love this video with all the details. Thanks man
You're welcome, thank you!
Hell yeah man!! Looking good
Thank you buddy!!
This was a very well done video. Thanks for doing it. I got a new house with an unfinished basement that was stubbed for a bathroom and didn't know what all of the unused pipes were for. This was a big help.
Tom Mutdosch Thank you, glad you found the video helpful.
Great job ! Thanks a lot for sharing
Thank you sir! Appreciate that!!
Great freaking work man.
Excellent video, well explained step by step, I'm planning to do the same project and your video is one of the best I've seen so far, thank you for taking the time to make this video , I just need to ask you : do I need a vent for each point or is there a way to do just one vent for all ?👍
This is a great job, for any one that is looking for info on basement bathroom
I’m no expert, but looks good.
Curious why you went with just a 2” ejector line, instead of a 3”?
Great vid. Only thing I do is wet saw the slab with a 14" power saw, but I own one. If you have to rent the jack hammer might be the way to go.
Yeah, if I had one I might have considered doing that. Since I rented, the jack hammer worked out ok. Thanks for the comment
Buddy good clean job
Outstanding video very informative and well done.
Nice job 👍
Thank you!
great video. thanks for also including the mistakes to avoid. Really helpful. Cheers.
Toilet needs vent .. in my area. Every fixture need individual vent. Except the doble vanity but. In this case I think u reached the minimum in the duty arm I think need vent as well . Is more than 4'3. The rest. All good nice and clean ..! 👍🏻
I know everyone gets mad when people comment with corrections. I also know that the code is over engineered and things will work if it’s not technically up to code. However, that depends on what it is. Some things are code to cover every possibility and others are code because they have to be done a certain way. If you do it the way in the video you will most likely fail inspection and have to redo a bunch of things. The most time consuming will be the kitchen drain. That drain is like 10’ of pipe from the vent. If it’s graded at 1/4”/ft then in 6’ the vent opening is below the bottom of the pipe which means it’s cut off and might as well not be there. There’s a vent right above that wall and he chipped up the concrete so why not take the time and run a proper 2” drain and vent. Also the vents underground are laying flat so that’s also a cut off vent so there’s effectively only one fixture that’s vented and that’s the lavatory. Why put a 2” drain for the lav and an 1 1/2” drain for the sink. It should be the other way around. A kitchen puts out much more water and 2” would give you more pipe length from the vent. He also used short 90s on drains. This will eventually cause draining issues. I appreciate that this guy is trying to help people but he ought to include a caveat that he’s does not know code. I’m not someone who cares that a homeowner does their own plumbing or even if it’s wrong but don’t tell everyone else how to do it when you don’t know what you’re doing. I grew up building houses with my dad and I’m a plumber by trade. I know plumbing and little bits of everything else. I’ve helped roof houses but I’m not a roofer and would never instruct someone on how to do it.
Thanks for the comment, I should have called you over when I installed it, maybe next time
zimsjeep well you’d damn sure have it up to code. Funny, the arrogant people who get mad when criticized or corrected are usually the people who are wrong most often. Knowledgeable people are usually knowledgeable because they don’t assume they already know everything and are willing to learn. My goal wasn’t to antagonize you but to hopefully persuade people to not to blindly learn from your video but to do more research so they don’t end up wasting time and money
Good work.... I bet it last 80 years with out a leak!
Thanks…Almost 10 in, no issues!!
Just a tip use a concrete saw instead of a jack hammer it’s a quicker and better way of doing it and to code u should drill rebar into each side staggered from side to side every 18 inches with a vapor barrier for radon. You tube should really make it so only licensed plumbers can up load plumbing videos of plumbing installs.
Mike Kroepfl Nahh, concrete saw will take you forever along with the dust, no need for all that jazz with the plastic in my area. Thanks for the comment and for watching
Awesome job! I'm a plumber by trade and can honestly you did a cleaner neater job than a lot of plumbers I have personally met that have done plumbing for a living for years. Also your correct dry fitting never works lol it's a pet peeve of mine haha
Thanks man, I really appreciate the comment. Yeah, the dry fitting never works correctly. Live and learn!
Its funny cause I used to be scared and dry vent and it made shit worse. Now I look back and realize just gotta be confident and ask questions when needed and go for it! Hell of a job !
Your a plumber so how much money for a job like this rough in plumbing for bath toilet and sink inside concrete that has to be cut? No fixtures installed just rough in plumbing.
@@larrywesley1410 I would say about 2000-2500
Dude, Awesome video, Helped me out big time.I appreciate your knowledge.You also explained it clear and to the point.THANK YOU
Thanks for the comment.
Wow. It looks professional! Great Job!
Thanks for the comment!
Great video man! this video was super helpful.
Great work, would have been nice to show the final plumbing from the pit - important to include the ball valve to facilitate pump maintenance (you mention it, but others many not pick up your comment). Suggest adding an alarm in case the pump fails - don't want stuff all over. I put the pump on a separate 20amp circuit. Warn people not to use the bathroom if power is out, unless you have battery backup for pump.
Question, what happens with the solid waste, (fezes) in the pit? Is a regular sumo pump able to throw it out or do you need a macerator one? Thanks
You're supposed to plumb the shower drain to the showers mortar base. I'm sure you had a slight issue with that. But other than that everything looked kickass
Hey, this video is great. Thanks for sharing man. What is the purpose of the vents?
very good instructions thank you Zimsjeep
GREAT VIDEO - exactly the step by step info I was looking for. Thanks for posting.
You're welcome...glad the info was helpful.
I’m getting ready to do this in my basement looks good
your videos are so good and professional , Iam about to start a project and this 2 videos are so helpful this exacly what i was looking for! Thanks
+Alejandro covarrubias Thanks, glad the videos helped. Good luck with your project.
thanks!
zimsjeep thanks! i appreciate it
You did a nice job on this,
After watching this, I feel inadequately prepared
I found it was easier to understand the second watch around
Looks good.
I assume it has served you well.
How does the sewage pump work? Any issues?
"How does the sewage pump work?" Similar to a toilet. It is pretty much a shit pit. There is a float inside that will activate the pump when the shit gets too high. If you have a basement that is below the city main, you have to have a sump pump or a special macerating toilet with pump to move the waste uphill and into the city main. There can be issues. The float mechanism can go out on you and that is usually found out AFTER the worst possible scenario of overflowing doo doo is experienced. Not the best gig to repair that mess.
EXTREMELY helpful for what I'm about to do. Thanks!
Christopher Rubeo glad the video helped!
If you were doing plumbing in NYcity, you would fell inspection, real easy!
Nice job thank you must have some background in construction
Thank you this is really helping me on my project.
I really appreciate your videos on this basement remodel, especially the slab plumbing - that is the part I've had the most concern with doing myself. I feel a lot more confident now. And I agree about the dry fit thing. Every time I saw someone do that, I always thought, how can you get it all back in the same place after you dry fit it? It just seemed like it would all shift and get messed up.
MidnightMoon Thanks, glad to help. Once you get going with this project, you'll soon realize it's really easy work, just back breaking moving all the sand, dirt, and concrete. I got a good workout carrying 5 gallon buckets up and down my basement stairs
What you are supposed to do is measure your take out, glue lubricates and allows for you to slide your fittings in place perfectly.
Dry fit all the time I just put a sharpie line on both pieces in several places on same pieces. Never had a problem. Sometimes it’s a wrestling match getting them off but lining up after no problems.
Excellent job, Thank you very much
Welcome, thank you!!
neatest job I ever seen . I do this as well . everything look great . I love doing this everyday . This looks like a perfect job good luck
Thank for the comment and for watching!
Great video. Thanks so much.
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for diy this is excellent, note you may want to consider ... double sanitary tee shouldnt be used in that way, double wye with fitting 45s is code most of the time. drainage can cross and closs if both sinks used at once. trap arm length must be at least double pipe size diameter, so.. 2" pipe will be 4" of pipe between tee and and 90
Thanks. I actually talked to a few pros on a plumbing forum and showed them the layout. They suggested the double sanitary tee. Thanks for the tips though. I can understand what you're saying and the problems that may arise. So far so good. Almost a year in and no issues with heavy usage.
His double ty is good. double y would cause a greater drop in elevation and be subject to siphonage.
Great tutorial.
When you dry fit you have to mark both pipe fittings so you know how to line everything back up when you prime and glue
Myron Smith I did that initially and still had an issue. I guess different methods for all of us. For me, cutting and building the piping as I went was easier. Thanks for the comment
zimsjeep I've done it both ways depends on the situation. Good job though
The problem with that is there is always a little bit of error when you line them back up. Even if it looks like it's "perfect", you can't expect it to be better than 0.5mm or 0.02". Those errors get magnified exponentially because you're dealing with long lengths and compound angles. I've never done it with plumbing, but even on fitting a custom exhaust on a car it didn't work out as expected, and those are smaller distances with only one branch and less stringent requirements.
Trevor Lambert True, good point!
thanks for your video , got my proyect done !keep up the good work thanks .
Freddy Chimauluda thank you man!
So that vent by the shower serves the toilet as well? Seems pretty far away. If that's the case isn't doesn't the sink vent fulfill the same purpose? By wet vent do you mean that the shower drain doubles as a vent for the toilet?
Nice Project!!!
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Nice work brother 👏 💪 👍
Very good job and good explaination
Thank you so much. You helped me. I appreciated the fact that you show your mistakes so people would not do the same. Most UA-cam video only show the finished work
God/Jesus bless you.
Di Si Thank you!
Hi I like you video helping me a lot just 1 question what pump did you use? I’m doing same thing but instead of shower I will be doing a tob