I rode the 65L in marginal winds today and I’m surprised at how much I liked it. I’m 83-84kg and normally ride an Appletree Jazz 62L and a Slice V3 50L when it’s windier. But the 65L ML got going really quickly and the best part is it felt like a familiar board. I was riding like dialed in immediately. I normally ride Axis, but the Armie HA 880 that was on the demo board is really good. I’ve ridden that foil a few times before.
@@secondlife7976 I think I was on a Duotone Unit 2024 5.5m and weak 10-15 typical San Diego wind. I may have been on a Slick SLS 6.5 tho. Either way, I'm usually on one of those... or a 5.0 SLS. But I'm not a good example to go by. I'm so used to riding smaller gear in light wind. I brought the kiting efficiency with me to winging. Haha
I'm 73kg intermediate/advanced winger. Average prone foiler. Good downwind paddler. Based on your experience with the 55L do you think the 45L would suit me to cover prone and winging? Thanks Note I can knee start my 40L prone board in good wind.
Hi Matt ! Best review again ! I am 70 kg . I have the 60 liters FG that I want to keep . Kind of confuse Which one of the ML should I pick for a second board for light air . Don’t want to go with a DW board . Mostly wing foiling on lakes in Canada .. thanks again for your input
If you are getting it for light wind winging only then get the 85L. It is still really sporty and feels great. You could get the 75L but don't gain much on performance and it will be less stable.
The problem is to find a European dealer, shipping costs are so high I normally ride with a 54L F-one board, I'd like to have a ML for downwind and light wind, do you suggest a 65 or 75? tnks man!
We ship world wide through Delta Air Cargo. You would have to pick it up at the airport cargo terminal but we can get it there. We are shipping cargo this Thursday. I would recommend for DW and light wind the 75L.
I have a FG 50 and absolutely hate it. It just sinks and most days there’s not enough wind to get it up and out. The ML55 seems maybe too small. I weigh 69kg. It’s been hard to ride anything but my big foil board that’s 5’9” and probably 100L.
Hi, great review. I usually ride 60l board 5'0 - 23" starting 10 kt (with 70kg) but would like to size down a bit. Do you already have some general feeling on how many litres can be shaked off (if possible) with these new DW like shapes comparing to what people are used to ride already?
That is what I thought until I surfed the 55L and was getting into waves earlier, as well as not loosing much in pump and turn. The ML 55 is a very different feel to my FG Surf 34L but the ML does have some advantages like easy take off and turning that I was not expecting for a board that is 21L larger.
how are you sizing these mid lengths (not just Armstrong) if you want something to complement your smaller board, to use for marginal conditions? I think 70% of your weight-as-volume is a sweet spot for an everyday board. So do you go same volume, just longer/narrower? or do you bump up volume?... maybe something like 80% weight-as-volume? or do you go equal or more volume than your weight? thanks
@@REALmattnuzzo thanks Matt. I have one that is about my weight as volume, and it feels wrong. It would be better to go either smaller or bigger. I prefer my smaller semi-sinker, and not sure the volume on my Midlength is adding any benefit (but the length does).
@@touheyKyle Yeah I bumped up in volume about 10L for the ML from my wing board and 20L from my prone board. If you are just using it for light wind winging then I would say go 20-25L more than your sinker or performance wing board. If you are using it as a cross over prone and wing board then 10-15L more than your sinker is probably right.
@@REALmattnuzzo if you're saying 75% of your weight as volume, are you talking lbs or kg? so if i'm 86 kg / 190 lbs, would you recommend 75l? (advanced rider, looking for one board solution). thanks for the help and videos!
Gen 2 Foil Drive works totally fine without the accessory antenna. If the nose of the board is out of the water, the connection is 100%. This board is super efficient too, so it gets on plane with Foil Drive really easily which saves battery too.
I rode the 65L in marginal winds today and I’m surprised at how much I liked it. I’m 83-84kg and normally ride an Appletree Jazz 62L and a Slice V3 50L when it’s windier. But the 65L ML got going really quickly and the best part is it felt like a familiar board. I was riding like dialed in immediately. I normally ride Axis, but the Armie HA 880 that was on the demo board is really good. I’ve ridden that foil a few times before.
what was the wind and wing?
@@secondlife7976 I think I was on a Duotone Unit 2024 5.5m and weak 10-15 typical San Diego wind. I may have been on a Slick SLS 6.5 tho. Either way, I'm usually on one of those... or a 5.0 SLS. But I'm not a good example to go by. I'm so used to riding smaller gear in light wind. I brought the kiting efficiency with me to winging. Haha
I'm 80kg intermediate and ML55 just rocks! 👍🏼 I switched from 80 l FG. Epic!
What's the weight of the 55l?
What wind conditions you riding?
@@maxnuccio2440 Depends on a foil and a wing. But normally from 14 knots/7ms upwards. Otherwise ML85.
I'm 73kg intermediate/advanced winger. Average prone foiler. Good downwind paddler. Based on your experience with the 55L do you think the 45L would suit me to cover prone and winging? Thanks
Note I can knee start my 40L prone board in good wind.
@@DownwindFrother I think so. I'm not as good as you are and with a wing 55 is pretty easy for me. So go for it! 💪🏼
Hi Matt ! Best review again ! I am 70 kg . I have the 60 liters FG that I want to keep . Kind of confuse Which one of the ML should I pick for a second board for light air . Don’t want to go with a DW board .
Mostly wing foiling on lakes in Canada ..
thanks again for your input
If you are getting it for light wind winging only then get the 85L. It is still really sporty and feels great. You could get the 75L but don't gain much on performance and it will be less stable.
@@REALmattnuzzo thanks for your input and your time . Much appreciated
The problem is to find a European dealer, shipping costs are so high
I normally ride with a 54L F-one board, I'd like to have a ML for downwind and light wind, do you suggest a 65 or 75?
tnks man!
We ship world wide through Delta Air Cargo. You would have to pick it up at the airport cargo terminal but we can get it there. We are shipping cargo this Thursday. I would recommend for DW and light wind the 75L.
Hi! Great Vid, Thanks. whats your thoughts for prone? did u do that video?
loving it already. can u tell us the weight of the 55l?
My 55L is just over 9 lbs.
@@REALmattnuzzo from the official Armstrong quarters: 5'5" 55L: 4.1-4.6 kg
5'9" 65L: 5.1-5.6 kg
I have a FG 50 and absolutely hate it. It just sinks and most days there’s not enough wind to get it up and out.
The ML55 seems maybe too small. I weigh 69kg.
It’s been hard to ride anything but my big foil board that’s 5’9” and probably 100L.
Hi, great review. I usually ride 60l board 5'0 - 23" starting 10 kt (with 70kg) but would like to size down a bit. Do you already have some general feeling on how many litres can be shaked off (if possible) with these new DW like shapes comparing to what people are used to ride already?
You actually add volume when you go to midlength. They are a lot narrower so a 65 L will go rail to rail a lot quicker than your current 60L
Wow.board looks awesome! I'm 70 kg, seems like it would be a good light wind wing board but could also handle stronger winds?
Yeah I have ridden the 55L in 10-35 mph. Felt good in all. The nose is so narrow that there is very little windage pushing that nose down.
How is it a quiver killer? For winging I’d use 55L, but that way more volume/size then I’d want for surf foiling…
That is what I thought until I surfed the 55L and was getting into waves earlier, as well as not loosing much in pump and turn. The ML 55 is a very different feel to my FG Surf 34L but the ML does have some advantages like easy take off and turning that I was not expecting for a board that is 21L larger.
how are you sizing these mid lengths (not just Armstrong) if you want something to complement your smaller board, to use for marginal conditions? I think 70% of your weight-as-volume is a sweet spot for an everyday board. So do you go same volume, just longer/narrower? or do you bump up volume?... maybe something like 80% weight-as-volume? or do you go equal or more volume than your weight? thanks
Yeah about 75% of your weight in my is about the right liters.
@@REALmattnuzzo thanks Matt. I have one that is about my weight as volume, and it feels wrong. It would be better to go either smaller or bigger. I prefer my smaller semi-sinker, and not sure the volume on my Midlength is adding any benefit (but the length does).
@@touheyKyle Yeah I bumped up in volume about 10L for the ML from my wing board and 20L from my prone board. If you are just using it for light wind winging then I would say go 20-25L more than your sinker or performance wing board. If you are using it as a cross over prone and wing board then 10-15L more than your sinker is probably right.
@@REALmattnuzzo if you're saying 75% of your weight as volume, are you talking lbs or kg? so if i'm 86 kg / 190 lbs, would you recommend 75l? (advanced rider, looking for one board solution). thanks for the help and videos!
How was it with the Foildrive unit ..saw a photo.on insta of you guys with the FD on
Gen 2 Foil Drive works totally fine without the accessory antenna. If the nose of the board is out of the water, the connection is 100%. This board is super efficient too, so it gets on plane with Foil Drive really easily which saves battery too.
@@REALmattnuzzo Fully agree. I put the remote on the air vent if the board is submerged and then the connection is ok.
Nice!👍💜💜💜