Thanks for this excellent comparison. I have been thinking about midlengths but just advanced to my 80L bar soap board and love it! I wing flatwater inland and working into Gorge swell riding. Biggest advantage of the bar soap shape for me? It fits in the van! 😅. Anything over 5.5’ and I have a major redesign on my hands so it is unlikely I will go that route, but “bi-curious” 😂. Anyway, your comparison eases my mind that I won’t need to remodel the van anytime soon. Thanks for that!
I like the format of video. I have actually asked myself the exact same thing as I ride the same 2 boards but I came up with different conclusions. I preferred ml unstrapped in waves as it has a real surfy projection feel to it. However the soap bar I prefer with straps and better for airs. What’s easier to get up is totally debatable in light winds. I find the ml harder to get on surface but once there it takes off much easier with such better glide
Hi. Great video. I am 85Kg and riding the FG70l which is 5.0 I am in the Canary Islands with usually strong winds, bumps and waves. Thinking if sell my FG and get a ML65 or 55 but I am not sure as you said the FG turns better in the waves as it’s shorter despite of being wider. Did you have that feeling?
Thanks for watching and supporting my videos. Yes the difference is really very little. If you like to prone foil on calm days I would definitely do the ML it just has better glide when not on foil. In pure waves for wing foiling I think the FG is an advantage.
I've been going back and forth between my 80L KT wingdrifter and 115L AK Nomad (which i bought for trying DW) after seeing all the pain on YT to learn paddling straight etc I'm holding off to learn DW. I am venturing out with the 7' * 23" in 1m waves and its surprisingly very surfy. The best part is the stability getting up and going. But everytime I'm on the KT wingdrifter its refreshingly stable in jibes and tacks and feels so much lighter. Yes donkeying off the front happens when trying to get up but once you switch the mind and technique getting up and going is also very easy (as thats what i did for nearly 1.5 year on this KT) So even if have a 35L difference between my board I still find it hard to choose. Probably if I had a 95L AK Nomad I would settle for that as a single board. If the 115L is that good in wave riding the 95 can only be better!
The rig on a windsurfer is designed to keep pressure which keeps the nose of the board trimmed. With wing foiling and rig foiling what are the limitations? At what point does the wind begin lifting the nose, is this a problem and is it easy to correct? I gues that with foiling there is no cavitation aka spin-out of the tail?
Thanks for watching. Yeah ML or FG. -20L is comfortable with me as I can kneel on the board. As far as wind goes you can always use a bigger sail. I do well with 4m in 18kts
@@StandUpMagazin seems the best riders in the world use the soap bar shaped boards, so these mid-lengths are for people who do not wish to progress in their wingboarding skills...like old fat guys riding Harley Davidson motorcycles 😂
I'm still on the chicken nugget shape wing board, I always imagined the narrower boards could lean over more in a turn before catching a rail or do you find you're more limited by the foil itself in that regard?
@@cameronlenart9166 thanks for watching. I don’t feel limited by either shape of boards they just have small advantages depending on what you use them for.
decisions, decisions...thanks for the review!!
@@ptj6412 🤣 totally. Thanks for watching I hope it helped. 🤙🏽
Thanks for this excellent comparison. I have been thinking about midlengths but just advanced to my 80L bar soap board and love it! I wing flatwater inland and working into Gorge swell riding.
Biggest advantage of the bar soap shape for me? It fits in the van! 😅.
Anything over 5.5’ and I have a major redesign on my hands so it is unlikely I will go that route, but “bi-curious” 😂.
Anyway, your comparison eases my mind that I won’t need to remodel the van anytime soon.
Thanks for that!
LOL too funny. Thanks for watching. I am glad you liked the video🤙🏽
I like the format of video. I have actually asked myself the exact same thing as I ride the same 2 boards but I came up with different conclusions. I preferred ml unstrapped in waves as it has a real surfy projection feel to it.
However the soap bar I prefer with straps and better for airs.
What’s easier to get up is totally debatable in light winds. I find the ml harder to get on surface but once there it takes off much easier with such better glide
Thanks for watching and your insight. I do like foot straps better too but only have one set but 2 boards… oh well
Nice lawn!
🤣 Thank you, they take good care of it.
Hi. Great video. I am 85Kg and riding the FG70l which is 5.0 I am in the Canary Islands with usually strong winds, bumps and waves. Thinking if sell my FG and get a ML65 or 55 but I am not sure as you said the FG turns better in the waves as it’s shorter despite of being wider. Did you have that feeling?
Thanks for watching and supporting my videos. Yes the difference is really very little. If you like to prone foil on calm days I would definitely do the ML it just has better glide when not on foil. In pure waves for wing foiling I think the FG is an advantage.
I've been going back and forth between my 80L KT wingdrifter and 115L AK Nomad (which i bought for trying DW) after seeing all the pain on YT to learn paddling straight etc I'm holding off to learn DW. I am venturing out with the 7' * 23" in 1m waves and its surprisingly very surfy. The best part is the stability getting up and going. But everytime I'm on the KT wingdrifter its refreshingly stable in jibes and tacks and feels so much lighter. Yes donkeying off the front happens when trying to get up but once you switch the mind and technique getting up and going is also very easy (as thats what i did for nearly 1.5 year on this KT) So even if have a 35L difference between my board I still find it hard to choose. Probably if I had a 95L AK Nomad I would settle for that as a single board. If the 115L is that good in wave riding the 95 can only be better!
Thanks for watching and the feed back. Happy sailing!
The rig on a windsurfer is designed to keep pressure which keeps the nose of the board trimmed. With wing foiling and rig foiling what are the limitations? At what point does the wind begin lifting the nose, is this a problem and is it easy to correct?
I gues that with foiling there is no cavitation aka spin-out of the tail?
Thanks for watching. Really interesting questions sadly I don’t know the answers. Never windsurfed.. 🤷🏼♂️
In your opinion, a perfect set up would be a ml at body weight for light wind and a fg -20 for stronger wind?
Thanks for watching. Yeah ML or FG. -20L is comfortable with me as I can kneel on the board. As far as wind goes you can always use a bigger sail. I do well with 4m in 18kts
Cash still uses and wins events on the soap bar shape
Yes he does saw that. The soap bar board are far from obsolete
Cash is not human 😂
With what he does - freestyle and wave - swing weight and maneuverability matters more than easy foiling I guess
@@StandUpMagazin seems the best riders in the world use the soap bar shaped boards, so these mid-lengths are for people who do not wish to progress in their wingboarding skills...like old fat guys riding Harley Davidson motorcycles 😂
@@ApriliaRSV4-777😂
The raised edge rails on the FG boards are a real negative, the ML55 flat surface is a winner everytime.
Thanks for watching and interesting feedback.... in what sense are they negative to you I haven't really noticed a negative impact on it.
I'm riding a 34L FG and have no problem getting it up on foil.
@@doityourselfvan nice. 34L that’s quite small. Must be a full sinker start.
I'm still on the chicken nugget shape wing board, I always imagined the narrower boards could lean over more in a turn before catching a rail or do you find you're more limited by the foil itself in that regard?
@@cameronlenart9166 thanks for watching. I don’t feel limited by either shape of boards they just have small advantages depending on what you use them for.