I would love it if Box Pixel would make an aluminum shell that is ready for the screen upgrade. That way I could do this mod and reverse it in the future if I wanted. Actually, even better would be a screen that fits without any case modifcation.
@@LIRetroGaming make sure you do a nice little bit on how to bend the capacitor legs so they make a nice neat L shape and the caps all fit within the silkscreen then :D otherwise you end up with stuff like this: pbs.twimg.com/media/EvvRC9iVIAERnZu?format=jpg&name=medium
So the via D204 is where you get CSYNC from? Sorry that wasn't very clear to me. Couldn't you just run the wire through the via to the CSYNC pin on the chip nearby?
I had mine done by a guy named Chris Brown. I found him on ebay. I believe he did a composite upgrade with the bigger screen. I notice a little flicker on the screen on blank backgrounds with the brightness turned up. Would this upgrade improve it?? He also made it to where I can hook it up to a TV and put a region free switch on it to change to play PC engine games.
Great Video, I would love to do this to my GT but i can't bring myself to Cut the Shell. i wish someone would make a replacement shell or make a no cut screen replacement.
Ya need an soldering station with a higher thermal capacity. That thing was really struggling to wet the pool, even tho it appeared to be running too hot. Some flux would help as well. Saw a few cold joins but whatever. You got the job done. Not to mention a hot air setup. You will never go back to an iron for smd caps after using hot air. Parts slide in like Butter Great job! Edit- disclaimer. I read that back and it sounded as if I was being overly critical. This was not my intention. I'm an old fart with years of service and repair experience going back to vcrs n such. Only sharing my observations. By no means did I intend to be a dick. All I've got are opinions
Just wat hed your composite guide not realizing this existed haha. Id kill for one of these - I have a PCE and TG16 but have been waiting on getting a TurboED cuz I want the SSDS3 especially since I dont have a Duo. Such a fantastic, underrated console!!! Just need a LiPo or LION battery mod! Lol Edit: that was the worst recap job I have ever seen lol. I'm surprised you able to save it as well as you did! IPS when...? ;)
I wish I'd picked up a dozen of these back in the early 90's, when they were clearance priced. I think they got as low as $49.95 at some US stores, e.g. Kay Bee toys.
Ceramic caps have some properties that are different from electrolytic caps. Sometimes it’s ok to convert electrolytics to ceramic, but not always. It’s safer to keep the design original when possible
@@LIRetroGaming Many thanks!, any reason why you didn't use the quick install plug in solder board rather than soldering onto the ribbon connector on this one?
But despites the originallcd was RGB, it just more looked like composite video, because small white letters did look rainbowish,wich is pretty strange.
Man, I really wish there were aftermarket shells for this handheld so we wouldn't have to butcher and potentially destroy an original shell to fit this new display. That said, has there since been a new, functional 3D print bracket for the screen?
It depends, but a lot of times they need to route the traces onto the opposite side of the board just because there are so many. By having two or more layers they can make more connections. Other times they do serve as test points
It really dpends on the system for me, the game gear sold rather well so it's okay in terms of finding/doing mods with, PCE Express on the other hand..
@@smithincanton but the golden question remains, was the old lcd based on composite video or not??? I ask this because i found it otherwise strange that small white text looks rainbowish on the old screen, does somebody has any guess why that is???
I am also conflicted about modding the turbo express. My personal one is still original - they are quite rare so I have reservations about modding it. However, if I got a second one I would do this mod in a heartbeat
Do you still update the turbo express ? I have not used my turbo express in a long time I can’t find my games yet . How much to upgrade and change capacitors.
Question I had about the mod I noticed it had the shielding on when you open it but didn’t see the shielding at the end. Did you leave the metal shielding out?
I have a question do you do this as a service I have a PC engine GT which is already had the 3.5 inch screen upgraded but I noticed those horizontal gel barlines it's already been recapped but I'm pretty sure those little caps that you just changed were not changed what would it cost to change those tiny little caps I'm in New York
I'm troubleshooting a TE that powers, but does not send game video to the screen either through composite or RGB. One oddity I noticed is the positive pad at CC503 is continuous with ground anywhere else on the board with or without the the cap soldered. Any ideas? There's no visible damage to the traces and the screen will display a solid color, just no game video or audio.
That’s a challenge and it’s hard to say without looking at it. If cc503 is shorted to ground then the short might be somewhere else on the board. Can you find a short on other locations on the board?
No other power shorts. But I do have continuity on 2 address pins on the cart connector. I traced those back to the RAM chip. Possible bad RAM or CPU? I had also read somewhere that the TE has two ground planes, like an A and B. TE documentation is just so scarce online.
Honestly on the stock unmodded version the screen doesn't look THAT bad. Obviously it's bad compared to today's standards. But for 1990 it looks really good.
this was the only system my parents were FIRM NO WAY @600 bucks with a game it was just too much money at the time people dont realize this was big deal it plaied home console games that didnt happen again until the nomad came out then not again for 15+ years
@@LIRetroGaming I messaged the guy to ask if it was a typo and he replied that it wasn't, and that as far as he knows they're out of production and he believes he may have the last batch. I bought a different kit for approximately $70 altogether. Great video by the way, thanks for that!
@@LIRetroGaming jesus christ. i just paid a guy named retro mancer 165 for parts, recap and install. id already recapped it with the console5 kit, but he uses ceramic caps instead, so im okay with him recapping it with those over my leaded ones.
I’ve had my TGE since day 1. It’s the most beloved and treasured item in my collection. I won’t do this mod on my original Express, but maybe if I get another one... Is the screen centered properly?
hi thanks for the video, I was just wondering,I live in Connecticut and I've been looking for somewhere close to ship out my turboexpress to get fixed, do you do that? do you have an email? thank you :)
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I would love it if Box Pixel would make an aluminum shell that is ready for the screen upgrade. That way I could do this mod and reverse it in the future if I wanted. Actually, even better would be a screen that fits without any case modifcation.
I’m excited I got a turbo express on eBay and it’s first on its way to get recapped and then on its way to me!
Fantastic! You’re going to enjoy it
Another great video!
Maybe you can do a video on recaping consoles like the game gear.
That is definitely something I can do in the future! Glad that you enjoyed the video!
@@LIRetroGaming make sure you do a nice little bit on how to bend the capacitor legs so they make a nice neat L shape and the caps all fit within the silkscreen then :D otherwise you end up with stuff like this: pbs.twimg.com/media/EvvRC9iVIAERnZu?format=jpg&name=medium
I'm waving at you from New London!
Nice! I’m waving from the other side of the Long Island sound
The original capacitor and your cleaned up capacitor needs the Drake meme.
this the best mod for pc engine gt , thanks alot , it help me
So the via D204 is where you get CSYNC from? Sorry that wasn't very clear to me. Couldn't you just run the wire through the via to the CSYNC pin on the chip nearby?
I had mine done by a guy named Chris Brown. I found him on ebay. I believe he did a composite upgrade with the bigger screen. I notice a little flicker on the screen on blank backgrounds with the brightness turned up. Would this upgrade improve it?? He also made it to where I can hook it up to a TV and put a region free switch on it to change to play PC engine games.
This mod should improve everything as the video quality goes up significantly. I haven’t observed any flickering with these new screens
@retromancer5693 I may be interested!
Great Video, I would love to do this to my GT but i can't bring myself to Cut the Shell. i wish someone would make a replacement shell or make a no cut screen replacement.
I agree, this is what keeps me from modding my personal turbo express as well. Although it is very tempting since the screen looks amazing
Ya need an soldering station with a higher thermal capacity. That thing was really struggling to wet the pool, even tho it appeared to be running too hot. Some flux would help as well. Saw a few cold joins but whatever. You got the job done.
Not to mention a hot air setup. You will never go back to an iron for smd caps after using hot air. Parts slide in like Butter
Great job!
Edit- disclaimer. I read that back and it sounded as if I was being overly critical. This was not my intention. I'm an old fart with years of service and repair experience going back to vcrs n such. Only sharing my observations. By no means did I intend to be a dick. All I've got are opinions
Just wat hed your composite guide not realizing this existed haha. Id kill for one of these - I have a PCE and TG16 but have been waiting on getting a TurboED cuz I want the SSDS3 especially since I dont have a Duo. Such a fantastic, underrated console!!! Just need a LiPo or LION battery mod! Lol
Edit: that was the worst recap job I have ever seen lol. I'm surprised you able to save it as well as you did!
IPS when...? ;)
Thanks, that recap was really bad and fortunately everything cleaned up very nicely! Let’s hope there is an IPS option in the works!
"I find your lack of owning a dremel disturbing" good video though
I like to take it slow when trimming the shell. One wrong move with the dremel and you end up cutting something that you didn’t intend
Are all those Hudson chips the exact sane chips that were used on the Turbografx 16?
Yes, they’re exactly the same chips
Newbie question: why use the kynar wire for c-sync connection rather than the same kind you used for everything else?
I used kynar for that connection because the via is too small for normal 28 gauge stranded wires
Because the connection flows via the via.
I wish I'd picked up a dozen of these back in the early 90's, when they were clearance priced. I think they got as low as $49.95 at some US stores, e.g. Kay Bee toys.
Wow that’s insane
4:17 If these tube-shaped capacitors will leak again couple decades later, why do people still use them instead of the cubic ceramic ones?
Ceramic caps have some properties that are different from electrolytic caps. Sometimes it’s ok to convert electrolytics to ceramic, but not always. It’s safer to keep the design original when possible
Since this is RGB, does that mean that it's using the PCE RGB color palette specifically?
Yes that’s correct, it’s the pce RGB color palette
Nice clean work!. Can you advise on the value/voltage spec on the two surface caps for the jailbar fix please?
Yes you can find that information here wiki.console5.com/wiki/Hu6260#Jailbar_.2F_Vertical_Bar_Fix
@@LIRetroGaming Many thanks!, any reason why you didn't use the quick install plug in solder board rather than soldering onto the ribbon connector on this one?
I had never seen one of these
These are hard to come by but definitely worth it if you find one!
Magnificent
But despites the originallcd was RGB, it just more looked like composite video, because small white letters did look rainbowish,wich is pretty strange.
Man, I really wish there were aftermarket shells for this handheld so we wouldn't have to butcher and potentially destroy an original shell to fit this new display. That said, has there since been a new, functional 3D print bracket for the screen?
Yes, on the positive side there is a 3d bracket for the screen
great video!
i did the same but the two 4,7uf capacitors
didn't fix my jailbar issue. do you have any idea ?
Im wondering, what purpose do the vias on the board serve? are they just there for testing and future repairs?
It depends, but a lot of times they need to route the traces onto the opposite side of the board just because there are so many. By having two or more layers they can make more connections. Other times they do serve as test points
Why am i sooo against moddifying old retro handhelds? I guess because of it’s scarecity,
BTW ,was the original screen not RGB?
It really dpends on the system for me, the game gear sold rather well so it's okay in terms of finding/doing mods with, PCE Express on the other hand..
This is really about bringing the console up to it's full potential with todays technology.
@@smithincanton but the golden question remains, was the old lcd based on composite video or not???
I ask this because i found it otherwise strange that small white text looks rainbowish on the old screen, does somebody has any guess why that is???
@johneygd I believe that the original screen was also RGB as I tapped RGB from the original connector
I am also conflicted about modding the turbo express. My personal one is still original - they are quite rare so I have reservations about modding it. However, if I got a second one I would do this mod in a heartbeat
The link for "LCDDRV Turbo Express kit" does not working anymore, do you have updated information?
Unfortunately these kits have been unavailable for a while now because of the global chip shortage. You might find it on aliexpress though
Do those tiny ceramic capacitors have polarity?
No, ceramic capacitors do not have polarity
@@LIRetroGaming ok thank you
Do you still update the turbo express ? I have not used my turbo express in a long time I can’t find my games yet . How much to upgrade and change capacitors.
You can reach me at 1uprestorations.com and I can repair your turbo express
Question I had about the mod I noticed it had the shielding on when you open it but didn’t see the shielding at the end. Did you leave the metal shielding out?
Yes I ended up getting rid of it. It’s there for FCC regulations on RF transmission, it’s not used for a heatsink
I have a question do you do this as a service I have a PC engine GT which is already had the 3.5 inch screen upgraded but I noticed those horizontal gel barlines it's already been recapped but I'm pretty sure those little caps that you just changed were not changed what would it cost to change those tiny little caps I'm in New York
C709 + C715
C709 + C715
Yes I can replace those caps. It helps but it does not get rid of those jailbars completely. You can contact me at my website
Would you sell the modded turbo express?
This one is not mine, I was doing it for a customer
I'm troubleshooting a TE that powers, but does not send game video to the screen either through composite or RGB. One oddity I noticed is the positive pad at CC503 is continuous with ground anywhere else on the board with or without the the cap soldered. Any ideas? There's no visible damage to the traces and the screen will display a solid color, just no game video or audio.
That’s a challenge and it’s hard to say without looking at it. If cc503 is shorted to ground then the short might be somewhere else on the board. Can you find a short on other locations on the board?
No other power shorts. But I do have continuity on 2 address pins on the cart connector. I traced those back to the RAM chip. Possible bad RAM or CPU? I had also read somewhere that the TE has two ground planes, like an A and B. TE documentation is just so scarce online.
How's the battery life after doing the mod?
I think it’s about double the life, mostly because of the low power requirements of the new screen
Honestly on the stock unmodded version the screen doesn't look THAT bad. Obviously it's bad compared to today's standards. But for 1990 it looks really good.
agree 100%. For that time period it looks amazing and I have actually kept my personal turbo express with the original screen
this was the only system my parents were FIRM NO WAY @600 bucks with a game it was just too much money at the time people dont realize this was big deal it plaied home console games that didnt happen again until the nomad came out then not again for 15+ years
Does your screen flip out when the battery is low?
Yes, it has a tendency to do that when it’s at the edge of battery life
@@LIRetroGaming Thanks, I was worried it was something I'd done.
No HDMi Mod?
:P
I wish! That would be pretty amazing
The kit for this is now selling for an unbelievable $1,110...........talk about retail arbitrage....
I saw those listings and it’s crazy. But there are others going for $85. Not sure what’s going on there!
@@LIRetroGaming I messaged the guy to ask if it was a typo and he replied that it wasn't, and that as far as he knows they're out of production and he believes he may have the last batch. I bought a different kit for approximately $70 altogether. Great video by the way, thanks for that!
the kits says 1100 dollars
There are cheaper options, but unfortunately there is a chip shortage and so supply is extremely limited
@@LIRetroGaming what do they go for normally?
Before the chip shortage they were going for $75, but you can find them on eBay for $190
@@LIRetroGaming jesus christ. i just paid a guy named retro mancer 165 for parts, recap and install. id already recapped it with the console5 kit, but he uses ceramic caps instead, so im okay with him recapping it with those over my leaded ones.
Retromancer is the last guy that has these in stock
Lol i cannot afford a pc engine gt
Looks a lot easier then the AV screen.
Yes, much much easier
I’ve had my TGE since day 1. It’s the most beloved and treasured item in my collection.
I won’t do this mod on my original Express, but maybe if I get another one...
Is the screen centered properly?
That’s how I feel - I’ll do it if I get a second one. Yes, the screen is centered
hi thanks for the video, I was just wondering,I live in Connecticut and I've been looking for somewhere close to ship out my turboexpress to get fixed, do you do that? do you have an email? thank you :)
Yes you can reach me at 1uprestorations.com