SILENT But Deadly | TurboExpress Repair

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  • @Khodeus
    @Khodeus 10 місяців тому +49

    Jeez that's the most pristine GT i've ever seen.

    • @scottsmall9898
      @scottsmall9898 10 місяців тому +3

      Best looking one I've seen for sure. I wish I had one, I've got the turbo grafix 16 and 14 games from my childhood. I love me some Bonks Adventure.

    • @SlippinnnJimmy
      @SlippinnnJimmy 10 місяців тому +2

      I have one I picked up for $25. It was stored in the penthouse of a skyscraper. It's FOUR times nicer. 😄😉 Same volume problem, though.

    • @scottsmall9898
      @scottsmall9898 10 місяців тому +2

      @@SlippinnnJimmy Try buying one nowadays, for one in the condition like this one it will cost you $300+ heck a perfect one will cost you over $1k. Good score on the one you got. I'll never find one around where I live now, no where near a city and I live on a lake so not maybe people around.

    • @DavideNastri
      @DavideNastri 10 місяців тому +3

      Sorry to be that person but this is a TE

    • @SlippinnnJimmy
      @SlippinnnJimmy 10 місяців тому

      @EveryGameGuru I won!!! 😃

  • @Kiowan918
    @Kiowan918 9 місяців тому +2

    That thing looks very heavy, reminds me of the old portable handheld TV's you could get. Can't imagine the eye strain trying to play games on that tiny tiny screen.

  • @MrKanejoe1
    @MrKanejoe1 10 місяців тому +8

    Did a cap replacement on one of these myself not too long ago. I can say that the edited part of the video was probably like 2 hours.

  • @scottsmall9898
    @scottsmall9898 10 місяців тому +2

    I've got the turbo grafix 16 and 14 games from my childhood. I love me some Bonks Adventure. It would be awesome to be able to play on the go. Thanks for another great video!!

  • @sharptoothtrex4486
    @sharptoothtrex4486 10 місяців тому +1

    Very nice restoration upgrade you did, lad. This is better than I expect.

  • @alisonb4898
    @alisonb4898 10 місяців тому +3

    I have this stuck in a drawer since my late husband pasted away and I always thought it was a handheld tv since he collected every gadget you can think of .

  • @RedneckOgre9000
    @RedneckOgre9000 10 місяців тому +5

    I loved the Turbo Express I got used from a pawn shop about a year after it had released here in the USA. I was able to find lots of TG16 games for cheap as well. The Turbo Express eventually died after a few years, but it was great while it lasted.

  • @PhtevenPhteve
    @PhtevenPhteve 10 місяців тому +2

    Hi Mate, really enjoy your videos, you inspired me to buy a pallet of returns. Managed to fix most of the faulty items, but I have a reasonably new delonghi toaster that I've spend far too much time on.. wondered if you fancied a go?

  • @--Animal--
    @--Animal-- 10 місяців тому +5

    Great job as always Steve, hate to see a beauty like that go to waste.

  • @samwilliamson_74
    @samwilliamson_74 10 місяців тому +13

    Haha! Cause you’re so zoomed in when you’re taking those caps off; at first I couldn’t tell that one was a needle nose and the other was your iron - I was legit like ‘is he actually just trying to rip those caps off the board cold!!?! Surely not! ‘
    😂

    • @MrThomashorst
      @MrThomashorst 10 місяців тому +1

      Same here ... I was screaming "turn it! turn it!" before I realized he had the dirty iron on the thing🤣

  • @SteveODonnell
    @SteveODonnell 10 місяців тому +3

    A new LCD screen is likely the only way to improve it. The old lcds used were good at the time but by modern standards are very poor.

    • @EikottXD
      @EikottXD 9 місяців тому

      The capacitors did improve it. He even showed a side by side.

    • @SteveODonnell
      @SteveODonnell 9 місяців тому

      @@EikottXD not as much as a new modern LCD would improve it.

  • @MisterSplendy
    @MisterSplendy 10 місяців тому +1

    I always wanted one of these beauties. I just loved this video, relaxing and satisfying, like watch those people who clean rugs! You've got a new subscriber.

  • @TheStuffMade
    @TheStuffMade 10 місяців тому +14

    Great looking console and a nice quick repair. 👍 Those electrolytic caps were definitely leaking, so a great save before they did any real damage. The problem with replacing electrolytic capacitors with ceramic is that the ceramic capacitors have much lower ESR, that can cause excessive current draw in some cases, also most ceramic capacitors have a voltage dependent capacitance, as in e.g. a 100uF 25V cap might only be 20uF with 20V bias plus ceramic capacitors tend to be more microphonic and less stable with temperature, but that's not relevant in this use case.

    • @kibecru
      @kibecru 10 місяців тому

      What about tantalum caps? Would it be better than using smd eletrolytic caps?

    • @BlackMajj
      @BlackMajj 8 місяців тому +1

      Tantalum's is what I swapped out the leaky "early 2000's" capacitors on my Yamaha RS 7000 with. Similar size so no need to do massive solderbridges and also 100% leak proof. Just be aware if anyone does replace electrolytic caps with tantalums, the marking on the tantalums is on the positive side whereas the electrolytical ones are marked on the negative side!

  • @microwave-vh2uc
    @microwave-vh2uc 10 місяців тому +1

    why are you replacing all the polarized electrolytic capacitors with non polarized caps?

  • @milgeekmedia
    @milgeekmedia 10 місяців тому +2

    I was immediately put in mind of that episode of IT CROWD where Moss 'pimped' Roy's phone! ...I imagined the volume of this would end up tuned to 11... 'That's the LOWEST setting!' 🤣

    • @nadca2
      @nadca2 10 місяців тому

      I vividly remember Roy shaking violently from the upgraded vibration

  • @Pablo-so1df
    @Pablo-so1df 10 місяців тому +2

    Have you tried Adrian's Digital Basement Method to remove the capacitors yet?

  • @CooLDEaFY4204Me
    @CooLDEaFY4204Me 10 місяців тому +1

    Not too shabby, great quick repair fixéd., excellent video

  • @danielsimpkins9662
    @danielsimpkins9662 10 місяців тому

    When you're removing those old surface mount caps, if you flood fill with fresh solder, they'll come off a lot easier. You were struggling because of the old solder.

  • @CallousCoder
    @CallousCoder 10 місяців тому

    Oh man! YOU LUCKY MAN! I've been collecting vintage computers (and fixing them) and this one is still on my "to hunt list".
    Now the hunt is part of the fun of course.

    • @djfernando16
      @djfernando16 10 місяців тому

      that's bc you're too cheap to buy one! I've had loads like you when I was selling a modded one on ebay years ago.

    • @CallousCoder
      @CallousCoder 10 місяців тому

      @@djfernando16 They are going for a round 900 on eBay. They are simply not worth that. In Germany there were a few that went for 500 euros -- just missed them. So yeah perhaps I am too cheap :D But it's all about finding that bargain and fixing it up if it needs be.

    • @djfernando16
      @djfernando16 10 місяців тому

      @@CallousCoder I sold mine a couple of years back for £600 recapped and ips modded after many months of listing. After a few months, the guy who bought it resold it for £500. So...

    • @djfernando16
      @djfernando16 10 місяців тому

      @@CallousCoder if you're looking for bargains, look at your local rubbish dump. You could find one for free!!

    • @CallousCoder
      @CallousCoder 10 місяців тому

      @@djfernando16 I've not been lucky enough to catch one in that range -- especially modded. Then again eBay is always so much more expensive and they are very rare in mainland Europe.

  • @fredrikeriksson8123
    @fredrikeriksson8123 10 місяців тому

    Wonderful resturation!

  • @LordFalon
    @LordFalon 9 місяців тому +1

    @StezStixMix can you give details about the capacitors you replace them with? I need to do MY Turbo express also but didn't know what the capacitor type or values were.

  • @JPDW3072
    @JPDW3072 10 місяців тому

    I wish to have the same talent in electronics as you do.

  •  10 місяців тому +5

    Nice and... SOLID.

  • @lkswift
    @lkswift 10 місяців тому +1

    Nice fix, and nice MMV swag!

  • @geralddraper5350
    @geralddraper5350 10 місяців тому

    I need to repair my nomad, thanks for reminding me.

  • @The_Absurdistt
    @The_Absurdistt 4 місяці тому

    I never thought to use caps other than electolytic. Where can I get a list of caps of proper values and dimensions? Thanks.

  • @dodgydruid
    @dodgydruid 10 місяців тому

    Trying out a new thing, got hold of a leatherworkers tool set and a bag of hide offcuts, just waiting on some patterns to arrive from China and going to make my own NATO and Zulu watch straps out of funky coloured hide pieces... also got some standard strap patterns as well, I spend an enormous amount on straps every month and a bag of offcuts cost me a few quid, its either gonna go great or... its going to look pants...

  • @tambias
    @tambias 10 місяців тому +2

    thats the american version,you get decent ips screen upgrades for these.obviously i would leave it standard but if the screen is too far gone its a great option.also makes the unit alot lighter.

  • @wryyyy
    @wryyyy 10 місяців тому +11

    GameGear and PC Engine GT/Turbo Express have both been quite notoriously known for failing caps. Especially GG. Rare to find one these days with original caps and still functional screen or sound. Brick Gameboys are starting to show cap problems too. Understandable for 30+ yrs old hardware, but GGs and GTs were failing already in the early 00's. Even if watching it through a video, the screen looks surprisingly good for a LCD of that age, especially after the cap replacement. Nice work.

    • @TanookiSuit
      @TanookiSuit 10 місяців тому +1

      I've got one of those rare GGs, its a factory original that had some issue that was corrected with me bridging a couple spots where it would set off some original lame copy protection routine (GG's ver of the 16bit tmss.) Other than that, everything is 100%, no leaks, no dryness, nothing on the caps. I was going to pop it open and put a new screen and stuff, but felt bad with a 100% working stock and left it as is. Always wanted a GT but the price is a toxic mess, gave up on it.

  • @abdelmalikelyahiaoui9071
    @abdelmalikelyahiaoui9071 10 місяців тому

    Ceramic capacitors, when they fail, have a high tendency to short as opposed to electrolytic ones that just “open”. That’s okay for filter caps but can cause a short to ground in case of a bypass cap. I would never replace electrolytic caps with ceramic ones on a circuit that was not designed for it properly (IE one that could handle a short to ground gracefully).

  • @bonio00
    @bonio00 10 місяців тому +1

    hello, when soldering the components add some tin you have with lead. it will make your job easier. It will also minimize the possibility of damaging the path. Lead-free tin melting point: 227 °Cm, Melting point: 183 °Cm. adding this tin reduces the working temperature after al "translation deepl

    • @Synthematix
      @Synthematix 10 місяців тому

      I said the same, desoldering these caps will destroy the traces 5 times out of 10, i just twist them off and then remove the legs on the board after

    • @samuraidriver4x4
      @samuraidriver4x4 10 місяців тому

      It was discontinued in 1994, lead free solder became an issue in 2006.
      So chances are it has good old leaded solder from the factory.
      It's made before lead was bad for your health and caused cancer in the state of California.
      I am glad I don't live in the state of California 😂

  • @creativesamurai8372
    @creativesamurai8372 10 місяців тому

    Yet again, another amazing video. What do you use to hold the pcb under the microscope? bluetack, pcb clamp? as with my microscope, i dont have that much room to have a pcb clamp/helping hands as the lens gets in the way.

  • @BeeDotEee
    @BeeDotEee 9 місяців тому +2

    Let's get crackin with the knackin' - Bo Selecta!

  • @DavideNastri
    @DavideNastri 10 місяців тому

    Are those type of caps ceramic? Are they better for noise on video / audio?

  • @lisajohnson1528
    @lisajohnson1528 10 місяців тому +1

    1943 was a sequel to 1942 which is nice i prefered 1942 great vid as ever steve x

    • @MrThomashorst
      @MrThomashorst 10 місяців тому +1

      I've put a lot of money in this cocktail-tables when I was a kid😂

  • @Rob-The-Gob
    @Rob-The-Gob 10 місяців тому

    awesome vid!! fancy taking a look at a fire stick??

  • @DanAndersen_
    @DanAndersen_ 10 місяців тому

    What size of ceramic caps are you using?

  • @EmmaRoyd-t3z
    @EmmaRoyd-t3z 10 місяців тому

    Steve with a stupid easy fix well-done

  • @dj5626
    @dj5626 10 місяців тому +2

    Awesome as always!

  • @Marine5D
    @Marine5D 3 місяці тому

    Very nice device. I would like to see screen mod and rechargeable battery installed on it. Well i would definitely do that if it was my device..

  • @P5ychoFox
    @P5ychoFox 10 місяців тому

    I replaced a sound capacitor in a Turbo Express years ago. I just attached it with two long wires. It was a mess but worked. So if anyone has one of these in the UK and sees this inside, blame me.

  • @vectrex28
    @vectrex28 10 місяців тому

    Hehe, 1943 Kai is my favourite game on the system, good thing you knew better than to call it a "Stupid game" :P
    Little point of advice/criticism if I may: Ideally, wick all of the old solder off the pads, then either rinse with vinegar to neutralise the electrolyte, then clean with IPA, or (the best option) give it an ultrasonic bath. Not doing so will cause problems down the line since the old corrosive fluid is still on the board. IPA just moves it around.
    I also prefer using electrolytics (and did on mine) tbh, unless you know exactly what those caps do.

  • @ShadowcasterZero
    @ShadowcasterZero 10 місяців тому

    So, couldn't you use higher capacity...er, capacitors to boost the sound? So long as the voltage remains the same?

    • @tookitogo
      @tookitogo 10 місяців тому

      No, the cap doesn’t boost the sound. Its job is to block DC, so the cap is someplace letting through the AC audio signal. But that signal needs to be present, at the desired amplitude, already. A cap that’s got too low a value (by design or by old age) becomes unable to pass enough signal, so it gets weakened.

  • @Alteracious
    @Alteracious 10 місяців тому

    Did you replace CC703 Capacitor in the middle under the metal shield?

  • @jacobdenick6385
    @jacobdenick6385 10 місяців тому

    Omg I have been waiting for you to repair one of these. love the vids.

  • @craiggilchrist4223
    @craiggilchrist4223 10 місяців тому

    I've been watch Big Break on You Tube Lately. You look like John Virgo lol.

  • @wisher21uk
    @wisher21uk 10 місяців тому

    Brilliant fix thank Steve 😊

  • @krazzz69
    @krazzz69 10 місяців тому

    I love your videos bud, keep it up!

  • @tolikkuleshov8529
    @tolikkuleshov8529 8 місяців тому

    This calming voice)

  • @erikhoffa966
    @erikhoffa966 10 місяців тому

    Informative and funny. Keep it up😃🤭👍💓🌷

  • @thequestionabledrhobsquabb8798
    @thequestionabledrhobsquabb8798 9 місяців тому +1

    steve can you make a vid on how to identify smd ceramic caps or point me in the right direction please

  • @keithjackson1180
    @keithjackson1180 10 місяців тому

    I used to have one of those years ago. A common thing to go wrong with them was for random pixels to die on the screen.

  • @AbyssalAura
    @AbyssalAura 10 місяців тому +5

    Steve, you gotta use electrolytic caps for these! It’s critical, especially for audio circuits!

  • @ReFreshRC
    @ReFreshRC 10 місяців тому

    Any reason why they used electrolytic caps instead of ceramic to begin with?

    • @tookitogo
      @tookitogo 10 місяців тому

      @@nemesis2264Back then, ceramic capacitors with the needed value didn’t exist.

  • @simonhamid
    @simonhamid 10 місяців тому

    In Hong Kong they referred to them as PC Engine for some reason. I threw the one I had out years ago....mistake 😞

  • @exidy-yt
    @exidy-yt 10 місяців тому

    Minor point, but if it's called TurboGrafix-anything it's the North American version. Japanese and Euro models are called PCEngine.

  • @vanja.lovretic
    @vanja.lovretic 10 місяців тому

    one question. if you removed electrolitic caps with dedicated plus and minus sides, how is possible that newly installed smd caps are polarity insensitive?? how they can so simply replace electrolytics? thx!

    • @hugegamer5988
      @hugegamer5988 10 місяців тому +1

      Electrolytic have a polarity because of the electrolyte whereas ceramic do not. The ceramic should do a nice job of replacing them as they have a better dynamic range of frequencies whereas the electrolytic ones were the cheapest for low frequencies.

    • @vanja.lovretic
      @vanja.lovretic 10 місяців тому

      @@hugegamer5988 hm... interesting. thanks!

    • @tookitogo
      @tookitogo 10 місяців тому +1

      @@vanja.lovreticThe polarity of electrolytic caps is a limitation you have to consider when designing. It’s never a benefit, only a limitation. So you can always use a non-polarized capacitor to replace a polarized one.

  • @coondogtheman
    @coondogtheman 10 місяців тому +2

    Best turbo Express repair ever. Those ceramic caps seem to work well.

  • @claytoncavalcante9130
    @claytoncavalcante9130 10 місяців тому

    Friend, I don't have much experience in identifying smd capacitors, could you give me any tips?

  • @agentmike2222
    @agentmike2222 10 місяців тому

    Hi Steve,
    that is probably not the leaking of the capacitors, but too much and to long heat from the iron.
    next time try cutting these capacitors.Just snip them of. Then only two pieces remain on the board. You can easily remove them with an iron.

    • @tookitogo
      @tookitogo 10 місяців тому

      And a dirty-ass tip. A crusty, oxidized tip conducts heat poorly, and that’s plainly visible here!

  • @tookitogo
    @tookitogo 10 місяців тому

    I didn’t see any signs of leaking. Both times you said that once you struggled to tin the negative pad, but the problem is your tip shape (bent conical is terrible at heat transfer) and the fact that your tip is dirty as heck (dirty tips don’t transfer heat well).

  • @darrengarvie8832
    @darrengarvie8832 10 місяців тому

    Short and sweet 😁

  • @jerryw2460
    @jerryw2460 10 місяців тому

    Thats a holy grail for alot of game collectors

  • @TheRealXyzven
    @TheRealXyzven 10 місяців тому +1

    3:48 - love you Steve but did you melt plastic and did not reset your counter?
    Those plastic housing are not part of the capacitors so technically, that’s a plastic piece.❤❤

  • @kjm-ch7jc
    @kjm-ch7jc 10 місяців тому

    It works absolutely fine ?

  • @kenoir1979
    @kenoir1979 10 місяців тому

    It's like me father said when I was a bairn. Let's get cracking with the knacking.

  • @numptification
    @numptification 10 місяців тому +1

    I had to put a new graphics card in my PC last month. I had no idea how small these components are.

    • @superamario6464
      @superamario6464 10 місяців тому +3

      Did you use the wrong amount of thermal paste at all?

    • @numptification
      @numptification 10 місяців тому +1

      @@superamario6464 The incorrect amount had already been applied at the factory

  • @3DJapan
    @3DJapan 10 місяців тому

    Was this modded or was that just a reloadable cartridge?

  • @treedeblue
    @treedeblue 10 місяців тому

    Why not upgrade the screen mate???

  • @mwk1
    @mwk1 10 місяців тому +1

    01:46 - SKISŁEM! 🤣

  • @KorAllRBare
    @KorAllRBare 10 місяців тому +1

    *TIPS*
    Your Soldering Iron isn't hot enough.
    You Need to use Flux when desoldering
    and Soldering, especially when the PCB
    has had leakage and or has evidence
    of Corrosion onboard..
    APU 👁👍

  • @franckozon
    @franckozon 10 місяців тому +3

    Nice

  • @KoSLoW27
    @KoSLoW27 10 місяців тому +1

    Good job, Now put a modern lcd on it 😅

  • @expendable7281
    @expendable7281 10 місяців тому

    How much did it cost Steve?

  • @originalbadboy32
    @originalbadboy32 10 місяців тому

    The audio issue is very common with the Express/GT.

  • @bjy128
    @bjy128 10 місяців тому

    Was that some type of multicart?

    • @matthomer1224
      @matthomer1224 10 місяців тому

      Looks like a turbo everdrive to me. Stores ROM files on a flash card

  • @grantm902
    @grantm902 10 місяців тому +1

    The capacitance of MLCC caps changes considerably depending on what voltage is across them. So if a 100uF 6.3V electrolytic cap was used on a 5V rail and is replaced with a ceramic cap, it may not necessarily be the intended 100uF once the 5V is applied.

    • @JasonWW2000
      @JasonWW2000 10 місяців тому

      That's okay because the capacitance doesn't have to be exact.

    • @hugegamer5988
      @hugegamer5988 10 місяців тому

      @@JasonWW2000 in fact the ceramic keep a much higher capacitance at higher frequencies which if anything is better at reducing noise and supplying enough power to switching components.

    • @Synthematix
      @Synthematix 10 місяців тому

      Wrong, higher voltage capacitors have higher ESR thats why i stick to using as close to the original as possible @@hugegamer5988

  • @MikesArcadeMonitorRepair
    @MikesArcadeMonitorRepair 10 місяців тому

    Smashing!

  • @MakunaRGBIC
    @MakunaRGBIC 10 місяців тому

    My housemate had one of those, back in 1993/1994.

  • @daakrolb
    @daakrolb 10 місяців тому

    I listed so hard for one of those back in the day…

  • @JasonPurkiss
    @JasonPurkiss 10 місяців тому

    I like that game too 😊

  • @Tim_3100
    @Tim_3100 10 місяців тому

    Cool video

  • @DylanS0sure
    @DylanS0sure 10 місяців тому +1

    the soldering works a bit better if u clean the tip. the sink scrubber they give in most kits is ok, i like a slightly damp sponge, each their own.
    if your job is to replace all capacitors, great!
    but it would be nice to see some diag with the video ."multi meter"
    Regardless enjoyed the video. keep at it please.
    **edit** i really appreciate your clean up after replacing components, awesome !

  • @paulsengupta971
    @paulsengupta971 10 місяців тому

    Drinking game. Take a sip every time the word "capacitors" is used.

  • @DavideNastri
    @DavideNastri 10 місяців тому

    I sadly got my original speaker destroyed. Can anyone suggest a replacement with same power / bass of the original? Or, even better, sell an original one? :D

  • @technoman9000
    @technoman9000 10 місяців тому

    Wow I miss electronics having so much heft.

  • @yaktaur
    @yaktaur 10 місяців тому

    The music used in the middle is the same music that Crazy Burger has for his channel :)

    • @Myretrospace
      @Myretrospace 10 місяців тому

      I thought the same when I heard that

  • @Synthematix
    @Synthematix 10 місяців тому

    Dont desolder these electrolytics, twist them off the board then remove the leads with the iron, the traces on these things are terrible and easily destroyed, keep soldering temp to max 280c otherwise the new capacitors will get damaged

  • @haactgaming9687
    @haactgaming9687 10 місяців тому

    Nice!

  • @Boogie_the_cat
    @Boogie_the_cat 10 місяців тому

    I knew there was a hamster driving the body.

  • @p3147-u9d
    @p3147-u9d 10 місяців тому

    Was the game Tyrian? (great game if it was!)

  • @PrimeAlex35
    @PrimeAlex35 10 місяців тому

    "Silent but deadly" like a cats fart 😂

  • @jivillain
    @jivillain 10 місяців тому

    handsome as always

  • @theresinprinterguy
    @theresinprinterguy 10 місяців тому

    best term ever is FUCT (Failed Under Continuing Testing)

  • @jantepas7511
    @jantepas7511 10 місяців тому

    And nothing burned!

  • @hellionprime7026
    @hellionprime7026 8 місяців тому

    I like your sense of humor. Very original. Keep them coming. Check out A You Being Served. Very funny stuff. Ahh the British 😂

  • @ronniewilson6597
    @ronniewilson6597 10 місяців тому

    👍🏻😀

  • @andrewshearstone1101
    @andrewshearstone1101 10 місяців тому

    If u push down as u twist u won't damage or lift pads, smd caps that leak are harder to desolder and smell like fish lol

  • @chrisstokoe3169
    @chrisstokoe3169 10 місяців тому

    It's probably due a new screen lad

  • @Venca182
    @Venca182 10 місяців тому

    yea, or kondenzátor :D