I was 2 in 1991. Look back on these times with nostalgia, not realising that times were so hard for adults back then, just like they can be now for us adults.
@@ayeelaura Don't know - 'This is London Guv' ) People seem reluctant to sign and intimidated by tv camera, naturally. I think mid 80s it stopped. BBC 'Break in the Sun' was a good'un of how life was then.
@user-kl4bh4lq6r Yes but social media can be used to expose bad social housing landlords, stuff that I've seen which is really bad which rarely makes it's way onto mainstream media. You can also get people to sign petitions on social media too
All these people are lovely. Doing the best they can to improve their homes and surroundings. You can feel their warmth and zest for life. A really lovely priceless documentary giving glimpses into past lives.
This is one of the main reasons why alcohol is not good for you. I'm sure the guy didn't even know what he was doing, or saying. Kudos to that guy Ian for keeping his cool. That's a great guy!
Poor Ian. What a genuine guy. He was right to stay calm. She was horrible but she didnt deserve that either. I bet that poor kid has grown up with some issues . Wonder where he is now.
When he walked off into the kitchen and kicked something / started wailing, hairs on the back of my neck stood up. I behaved in the same way with a very, very abusive sibling, & rather than comfort I also got a clip round the ear & chastised, just like he did from his grandma. He was hurting and angry at seeing so much violence in his young life. Broke me hearing that. Have wondered since what sort of adult he grew up to be. Poor soul.
@@LauraBidingCitizen yes I know exactly what you are saying.ihope he grew up into a lovely lad & has a happy life . Poor soul being treated like that. He was scared to death
@@LauraBidingCitizenyou’re not alone there. That brought back some memories I had blocked out for over 25 years. I feel for the young lad and hope he grew up knowing the only positive to come from those experiences are not to ever be like those people. Just like I have.
@@LauraBidingCitizenyep I behaved the same way, was violent to people right up into my teens cuz of the abuse and trauma I got as a kid. I just hope that kid learnt to control his emotions and heal like I did so as not go continue the cycle of abuse. Easier said than done
@@PublicUniversalFriend69 Appreciated your comment my friend. Had a huge MH breakdown 3 months before my 21st birthday (I’m now 38), had these terrible rage outbursts, no idea why as I was always ‘calm’ until early tween years, & even then I’d only ever get angry on my own. Bottled it all up. MH services are 💩, never got the help I needed despite being in the services 7 years. Just lost both parents in the space of 2 & a bit years, Dad in June - both sudden, & evil brother I mentioned died suddenly in October of 2022, perhaps that was his karma (a lot more than ‘sibling angst’, I’ll leave it at that). I suppose when we go through our own childhood issues, we see things others may not in situations like this don’t we? I also hope he came out the other end OK. I know too well the battle it takes. Again, thank you for your kind comment, & I do hope you’re doing well now x
@@paulsmusic2908 Nope, it isn’t. You came in stating ‘it’s the only accent’ - what is?! Then stated something about a Jamafrican accent?! Can’t recall that being mentioned anywhere by OP or myself, then went on to say the youth speak cockney? Your comment made absolutely no sense.
Interesting you say that - i'm 58. Childhood in the 70s was tough in my memory, but i left home in 86 and by 1990 i was settled. Fuel was cheap (for heating home) in the early 90s. As was food - era of kwik save with the 2p baked beans.
Brilliant documentary.A real, warts and all, slice of British history.And I do agree that it would be more than interesting to find out what happened to the people featured in the doc. I hope life got better for them.Surely by now all the flats have been knocked down and long since bulldozed.I mean ASBESTOS in the walls!.I wonder how many unfortunate tenants in the past at that time, ended up dying as a result of breathing in asbestos fumes every day for years?.I wonder whether they ended up building a new council estate from scratch or whether, not unlike what has happened to other council estates in the heart of London , being turned into “ luxury “ “ executive “ homes with hefty mortgages.Simply because of the prime location.Unfortunately, this has resulted in many long term council residents who may have been living there for many years even all their life, having to be rehoused far away even to another town or city.But, left with no choice and ending up intentionally making themselves in the long run, homeless.We need more educational docs like these.You can’t help feeling so lucky for your humble abode and appreciate what you have when you see how people have and had to struggle. But it would be thrilling to know what happened to them.Although I’m in no doubt that quite a few have passed away.I hope they moved from those grotty, old flats into something and somewhere decent in the end.I wish them the best of luck.X
It’s alarming that Asbestos is throughout the flats, but it certainly does not emit any form of gas or “fume”. Only when asbestos is broken or drilled/sawed/crushed or snapped etc and its dust is released into the air is it dangerous.❤
Ordinarily I would agree, but it was oddly satisfying seeing Ian’s abusive ex wife getting dragged by the hair moments after speaking to him like rubbish (which is probably the tip of the iceberg of her abuse). It was almost like instant karma 😉
@@mysticjen379 that’s disgusting 🤮 of you domestic abuse of a female our male should never be excepable our tolarted you come across as a twisted person who could find that and enjoy someone being abused sicko
I grew up in the 1980s. I miss some parts of life from back then. The 1980s and very early 1990s. The summer of 1990 was the hottest I'd ever experienced in my life, up to that point
@@mrkipling2201You know what, I think it was my favourite too! I remember saying to my mum I was looking forward to the following summer, and I’m pretty sure that was 1991 😁☀️😎
Asbestos doesn't hurt you unless you start cutting it to expose the fibres. Many buildings have asbestos in the walls and ceilings. It's needs to be removed properly to limit the exposure to the fibres, but otherwise it is ok.
I agree but many of the residents didn’t know that their flats contained asbestos, so they would have been disturbing it, like the one man who was redecorating. As you could see when they visited one family, the ceiling had cracked which could have released fibres. The asbestos needed monitoring and the residents educated to the dangers, which it seemed the council wasn’t doing.
I can't believe he attacked the woman, especially in front of the child, and then attacked him and he didn't defend himself. If that were me, I'd be done full stop with that friendship
That brings back memories. In the 80s the super strength lagers became really popular. started with Carlsberg specials and then the pictured Tenants super, later skol and kestrel joined the party. A couple of cans you were well away . I was on them at least 4 times a week at that time. It did show you how outrageous the poll tax was, people living in cramped asbestos flats paying the same as those on millionaires row. Squats were everywhere at that time, however, it was changing. The steel shutters had been used for about 5 years. Previous to that you could just walk in and squat council houses, Loads were in disrepair and half abandoned anyway. How things have changed. Not a squat or arty type anywhere to be seen, its all yuppies and gentrification now. Yes it would be interesting to know what happened to those involved. Most that were over 50 would have passed on, the others probably dispersed. I live fairly close to the estate so may check it out. Where the old style boozers came in handy, they always knew what went on. I think the pissed guy scene was partially staged. The pissed guy does not look at the camera once, which shows he was aware of what was going on.
I remember Bob Mills doing a episode of this in in bed with me dinner.. the young boy in the video is now a man and contacted Bob Mills over laughing at his mum being hit .he now has a podcast interviewing Bob Mills give it a search very good interview. " outside in pods"
i likethis, havent heard of it before. man 35 years old but it seems a totally diffrent world. a world where working class people could actually afford to live and work in london.
Well that 40 minutes was quite something.. a heart attack, a drunken assault, a divorce where they go and celebrate together… did I miss something? That was bloody mental.
I was 14, 15 right at the end of the year, and you're right, this documentary has an almost hallucinogenic quality. It seems familiar but, at the same time, totally alien to me.
The world & UK changed very fast between the 80s and the 90s, the fashion, music, cars, technology etc. Look at a Vauxhall Cavalier from the 80s and one from the 90s, the 80s one looks ancient today, the 90s one looks relatively modern. Same with technology from landlines, typewriters and fax machines to affordable small mobile phones, PCs and early mainstream internet access. As I was young, and the world was full of optimism, it didn’t seem scary at all, but for older people it must have quite confusing, the end of era, they understood, to sometime quite different and ultimately probably worse.
Yes, it was shocking how he grabbed her on entering, I could be wrong but I feel there was an under current of 'love interest jealousy' on older mans behalf, & how poor Ian who was also physically abused by his oh so stroppy ex tried his best to calm everyone & saw an opportunity to instill a more peaceful approach to violence in the young fella who has obviously seen poor Ian get battered by his own mum, she was a pieace of work with her sarcy impatience towards poor Ian, fascinating to watch all the same. Time capsules on film.
@juliet7703 I didn't even expect my comment to stay up so I kept it short, but I agree with you. I hated that the boy had to witbess that and that it had to happen to her. Ian and his ex MIL were all so oddly passive about a situation that was frightening and traumatic.
The Government should be giving all Council Boroughs in London the same amount of money , and the Council's should not be wasting it every year just so they can get the same amount again , by not giving every Borough the same amount of money is a form of descrimination .
People these days that are on benefits don't seem to be struggling at all !!! They seem to have more money than our household and we work full time,I feel so much empathy for these people on these shows they really were struggling.
I bet you've never put a foot wrong anywhere, right? Or is this just another chance to sneer at poor people because they're common & English. So, what do you think about the 1000s of free loaders coming over from France in little boats?
That's because we have access to finance and credit cards, we also had human rights groups fighting to keep us out of poverty and improve the lives of our poor children
@@angela64355 housing might have been affordable but the useless government and local authorities had 3,000 properties that were not fair to let, so obviously in a state of disrepair, infested, asbestos filled but there was no funding to put them right. Hence squatters all over the area
Not the first half - the economy was a wreck, unemployment absolutely rocketed and hit a high in 1993, and people were having their homes repossessed left, right and centre. There were also a number of riots. The prosperity in the 1990s only came much later towards the end of the decade
if you are talking about 1999 then maybe but when I was a kid in the 90s the poverty and unemployment was terrible much worse than the years of austerity a decade ago. homelessness was also rife with every shop doorway in large towns and in cities were bedrooms for the homeless. The nights we often sat in complete darkness because we had no money to top up the electric and that was common. Also new labour's minimum wage helped lift low paid workers out of poverty. It was perfectly legal to pay someone £1 per hour and if you're desperate for work you would take it but that doesn't mean you could afford all of your essentials.
It's a snapshot into a period of time that has gone forever. As someone who grew up in the 1980s, this is great. I miss those simpler times occasionally.
6:56 wearing all that gear whereas tenant children n elderly breath that in 😢 . But amazinv documentary tjere were always something romantic n dreamy nostalgia about 90s; vibe, fashion, music, tv, alll of it
32:00 why didn’t her bloke go to the woman’s aid instead of letting him get away with assaulting her? Then he enabled an assault on himself too and the drunk got away with it all? My mind boggles!?!
I have to say, at around 13:00, the police seem like something out of Peppa Pig in 1991 compared to today, even the way they are dressed. I remember back in the day, when cops were depicted in the future to be much like they are today and thinking the same in reverse.
They say power corrupts. I'd say people who enjoy power seek power. I was a member of a similar association once and it was all about them getting what they could get out of it and having power over who else got anything. Same old.
I cant be certain, but I think there may be asbestos in those flats? 🥺🥴🥴 That guy was right to be furious that the Council actually moved him into an asbestos filled flat. I hope he wasnt unwell, afterwards
Loved all the benefits and public services running round after them clearing up their mess. But ran a mile when it came to contributing via the Community Charge.
I lived in the old Kingshold Estate. We lived with cockroaches for 2 years before the council had funding to deal with it! It was a good community, and it was not always this bleak! 😊
Debating whether they’re on the same estate as to whether they can use that tiny hall room or not..to hold a Poll Tax meeting.. It reminded me of Monty Pythons ‘What have the Romans done for us’ meeting with Reg 🤦🏻
Not all police are thugs, but today’s ones are definitely far too young. No life experience and get all uppity because they’ve got a badge and a sense of power. I reckon the minimum age for acceptance should be 25….even that’s young, but it’s a start.
This is more depressing than EastEnders. At least you can switch that off and know it's not real. But this, it's terrible. Things are not improving either. The government can paper over the cracks but at the end of the day the rot is getting worse and worse, especially with Keir's austerity making the Tories austerity look luxurious in comparison.
For us poor people in society, I would much rather live under a Labour government. Conservatives are only for the rich, and do nothing for ordinary people. Tories don't pour money into the NHS, where Labour put much more money into the system. I'm not for one second saying Labour are perfect
Poor Ian deescalating that situation was so hard to watch. Tom is a bitter, nasty person. And a drunk His own friend smacked the shit out of him for no reason, and he still tried to apologise and rectify the situation for everyone.
I felt sorry for Ian but whatever his history has been, his calm nature even after getting thumped, was commendable. He didn't raise a hand except to protect himself and told the young boy that basically retaliating would not solve anything even if that's what you might want to do in that moment. I wonder what happened to him? Hopefully he will be in other episodes.
@@suz1017 I feel the same way, his perception of the mistreatment was truly admirable. He’s a pacifist, but it seems that people in his life were taking advantage of that. I also feel bad for Shirley, her attitude speaks to years of abuse. So passive aggressive and bitter, I wonder how she ended up that way too. I hope these people are still alive, and okay
Wow! I grew up like this on an estate, i was 8 in 1990, it looks now like a completely different world. Time is so weird
What was it like growing up now there.
Time sucks
I was 2 in 1991. Look back on these times with nostalgia, not realising that times were so hard for adults back then, just like they can be now for us adults.
There's something fascinating to me about docos from pre-2010
So true a whole different world before
smartphones and the horrors of social media
90s baby here and didn't we have the best of both worlds back when ppl used to actually communicate
@@ayeelaura Don't know - 'This is London Guv' ) People seem reluctant to sign and intimidated by tv camera, naturally. I think mid 80s it stopped. BBC 'Break in the Sun' was a good'un of how life was then.
@user-kl4bh4lq6r Yes but social media can be used to expose bad social housing landlords, stuff that I've seen which is really bad which rarely makes it's way onto mainstream media. You can also get people to sign petitions on social media too
Agree
All these people are lovely. Doing the best they can to improve their homes and surroundings.
You can feel their warmth and zest for life. A really lovely priceless documentary giving glimpses into past lives.
Especially the guy at 32:13 doing the cave man thing.
This is one of the main reasons why alcohol is not good for you. I'm sure the guy didn't even know what he was doing, or saying. Kudos to that guy Ian for keeping his cool. That's a great guy!
Poor Ian. What a genuine guy. He was right to stay calm. She was horrible but she didnt deserve that either. I bet that poor kid has grown up with some issues . Wonder where he is now.
When he walked off into the kitchen and kicked something / started wailing, hairs on the back of my neck stood up. I behaved in the same way with a very, very abusive sibling, & rather than comfort I also got a clip round the ear & chastised, just like he did from his grandma. He was hurting and angry at seeing so much violence in his young life. Broke me hearing that. Have wondered since what sort of adult he grew up to be. Poor soul.
@@LauraBidingCitizen yes I know exactly what you are saying.ihope he grew up into a lovely lad & has a happy life . Poor soul being treated like that. He was scared to death
@@LauraBidingCitizenyou’re not alone there. That brought back some memories I had blocked out for over 25 years. I feel for the young lad and hope he grew up knowing the only positive to come from those experiences are not to ever be like those people. Just like I have.
@@LauraBidingCitizenyep I behaved the same way, was violent to people right up into my teens cuz of the abuse and trauma I got as a kid. I just hope that kid learnt to control his emotions and heal like I did so as not go continue the cycle of abuse. Easier said than done
@@PublicUniversalFriend69 Appreciated your comment my friend. Had a huge MH breakdown 3 months before my 21st birthday (I’m now 38), had these terrible rage outbursts, no idea why as I was always ‘calm’ until early tween years, & even then I’d only ever get angry on my own. Bottled it all up. MH services are 💩, never got the help I needed despite being in the services 7 years. Just lost both parents in the space of 2 & a bit years, Dad in June - both sudden, & evil brother I mentioned died suddenly in October of 2022, perhaps that was his karma (a lot more than ‘sibling angst’, I’ll leave it at that).
I suppose when we go through our own childhood issues, we see things others may not in situations like this don’t we?
I also hope he came out the other end OK. I know too well the battle it takes. Again, thank you for your kind comment, & I do hope you’re doing well now x
Great channel this cheers for the archiving
Good to hear the old London accents, the real cockneys, a culture lost.
Yes, I thought that while watching. Rare to hear that accent anymore. My grandma had one, loved it everytime I heard it, true cockney accent 💗
@@LauraBidingCitizen Its the only accent. People call that Jamafrican gutter talk all the youth speak cockney. Its grates on my ears
@@paulsmusic2908 Youth speak what?! Today’s youth do not speak cockney lol.
@@LauraBidingCitizen Isn't that what I said? 🤔
@@paulsmusic2908 Nope, it isn’t. You came in stating ‘it’s the only accent’ - what is?! Then stated something about a Jamafrican accent?! Can’t recall that being mentioned anywhere by OP or myself, then went on to say the youth speak cockney? Your comment made absolutely no sense.
I'm 52. I was 19 in 91. The 90s was a hard decade. I'm from the north. It was survival.
Interesting you say that - i'm 58. Childhood in the 70s was tough in my memory, but i left home in 86 and by 1990 i was settled. Fuel was cheap (for heating home) in the early 90s. As was food - era of kwik save with the 2p baked beans.
Brilliant documentary.A real, warts and all, slice of British history.And I do agree that it would be more than interesting to find out what happened to the people featured in the doc. I hope life got better for them.Surely by now all the flats have been knocked down and long since bulldozed.I mean ASBESTOS in the walls!.I wonder how many unfortunate tenants in the past at that time, ended up dying as a result of breathing in asbestos fumes every day for years?.I wonder whether they ended up building a new council estate from scratch or whether, not unlike what has happened to other council estates in the heart of London , being turned into “ luxury “ “ executive “ homes with hefty mortgages.Simply because of the prime location.Unfortunately, this has resulted in many long term council residents who may have been living there for many years even all their life, having to be rehoused far away even to another town or city.But, left with no choice and ending up intentionally making themselves in the long run, homeless.We need more educational docs like these.You can’t help feeling so lucky for your humble abode and appreciate what you have when you see how people have and had to struggle. But it would be thrilling to know what happened to them.Although I’m in no doubt that quite a few have passed away.I hope they moved from those grotty, old flats into something and somewhere decent in the end.I wish them the best of luck.X
There's a follow up episode a few years later. Joe and his wife moved to Blackpool and the estate was demolished.
It’s alarming that Asbestos is throughout the flats, but it certainly does not emit any form of gas or “fume”. Only when asbestos is broken or drilled/sawed/crushed or snapped etc and its dust is released into the air is it dangerous.❤
@@earth-warriorI was just going to write the same thing about asbestos.
Poor kid. I hope he's alright now.
The little kid now ua-cam.com/video/hGV8Hcs0b4Q/v-deo.html
That old drunk was disgusting 🤢 hitting the woman then his friend
Yes that triggered me
Ordinarily I would agree, but it was oddly satisfying seeing Ian’s abusive ex wife getting dragged by the hair moments after speaking to him like rubbish (which is probably the tip of the iceberg of her abuse). It was almost like instant karma 😉
@@mysticjen379 that’s disgusting 🤮 of you domestic abuse of a female our male should never be excepable our tolarted you come across as a twisted person who could find that and enjoy someone being abused sicko
@@mysticjen379 yeah, she got put right in her place. Nasty woman.
@@mysticjen379wonder if the old drunk gets his karma
Life’s hard.we’ve all got a few short years.there are winners and losers.always will be.
And the winners aren’t neccarily any happier .
so very true mate
Very well put 👍
We all end up the same way in the end. Nobody wins.
I grew up in the 1980s. I miss some parts of life from back then. The 1980s and very early 1990s. The summer of 1990 was the hottest I'd ever experienced in my life, up to that point
Yes it was boiling, I was 11. It was 90 degrees that summer!
@@mysticjen379 I remember it well!! Probably one of the best summers I’ve ever experienced.
@@mrkipling2201You know what, I think it was my favourite too! I remember saying to my mum I was looking forward to the following summer, and I’m pretty sure that was 1991 😁☀️😎
@@mysticjen379 it certainly was!! I remember the summer of 1991 as well. Nowhere near as good as 1990. I was 11 in 1990 as well!!
It was. I was 11 that year too. But things did seem better as a kid. 😂
Asbestos doesn't hurt you unless you start cutting it to expose the fibres. Many buildings have asbestos in the walls and ceilings. It's needs to be removed properly to limit the exposure to the fibres, but otherwise it is ok.
I agree but many of the residents didn’t know that their flats contained asbestos, so they would have been disturbing it, like the one man who was redecorating. As you could see when they visited one family, the ceiling had cracked which could have released fibres. The asbestos needed monitoring and the residents educated to the dangers, which it seemed the council wasn’t doing.
Well said that guy in the beginning just needs to slap on loads of paint real fast and leave the walls alone.
I can't believe he attacked the woman, especially in front of the child, and then attacked him and he didn't defend himself. If that were me, I'd be done full stop with that friendship
That brings back memories. In the 80s the super strength lagers became really popular. started with Carlsberg specials and then the pictured Tenants super, later skol and kestrel joined the party. A couple of cans you were well away . I was on them at least 4 times a week at that time. It did show you how outrageous the poll tax was, people living in cramped asbestos flats paying the same as those on millionaires row. Squats were everywhere at that time, however, it was changing. The steel shutters had been used for about 5 years. Previous to that you could just walk in and squat council houses, Loads were in disrepair and half abandoned anyway. How things have changed. Not a squat or arty type anywhere to be seen, its all yuppies and gentrification now. Yes it would be interesting to know what happened to those involved. Most that were over 50 would have passed on, the others probably dispersed. I live fairly close to the estate so may check it out. Where the old style boozers came in handy, they always knew what went on. I think the pissed guy scene was partially staged. The pissed guy does not look at the camera once, which shows he was aware of what was going on.
That man at 32:00 is despicable. He belongs behind bars. I expect he is no longer around though, I hope he did spend time in prison before he left.
Look how much everyone is struggling - but there's such a strong community spirit.
I remember Bob Mills doing a episode of this in in bed with me dinner.. the young boy in the video is now a man and contacted Bob Mills over laughing at his mum being hit .he now has a podcast interviewing Bob Mills give it a search very good interview.
" outside in pods"
Joe 😂
@@guidelineuk4876 where can I find this?
ua-cam.com/video/VhhP4oVsVfw/v-deo.htmlsi=vBn95gewZ2LrAUvB
Who has a podcast ? Where ?
@@aprilapril2" outside in pods " say please next time hahaha :-).
Thanks for the upload! This has been on youtube for years but clearly edited and dubbed over. Is this the original? Much longer episodes I think.
This looks interesting, might watch it later with a beer.
😅😅
😂😂😂😂😂😂🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
Tenants?
@@dalejenkins1558 Yeah. That's basically what this film is about.
Ew I hate beer
i likethis, havent heard of it before. man 35 years old but it seems a totally diffrent world. a world where working class people could actually afford to live and work in london.
Well that 40 minutes was quite something.. a heart attack, a drunken assault, a divorce where they go and celebrate together… did I miss something? That was bloody mental.
I was 20, years old when this came out, it’s strange, I don’t recognise the clothes, the cars etc, very odd
I was 14, 15 right at the end of the year, and you're right, this documentary has an almost hallucinogenic quality. It seems familiar but, at the same time, totally alien to me.
It feels like a different world
Jokin')! Check out the treads - late 80's Avia basketball boots etc. 'Status Quo' bleached out jeans and the odd M-A1 jacket and the mullet)
The world & UK changed very fast between the 80s and the 90s, the fashion, music, cars, technology etc.
Look at a Vauxhall Cavalier from the 80s and one from the 90s, the 80s one looks ancient today, the 90s one looks relatively modern.
Same with technology from landlines, typewriters and fax machines to affordable small mobile phones, PCs and early mainstream internet access.
As I was young, and the world was full of optimism, it didn’t seem scary at all, but for older people it must have quite confusing, the end of era, they understood, to sometime quite different and ultimately probably worse.
@@ebutuoyYT I never looked at the technology vs.older people this way, thanks for making me think...
Nothing worse than a drunken bum getting physical
He'd be out flat . My mother's the same
I feel so bad for Ian, and the little boy Rikki having to see all that. His mother being assaulted at the front door
@@KellyStephen-j5z your mum did this to you my friend?
Ian is an absolute pussy. Failed to stand up for himself, his albeit ex Mrs and his kid.
Yes, it was shocking how he grabbed her on entering, I could be wrong but I feel there was an under current of 'love interest jealousy' on older mans behalf, & how poor Ian who was also physically abused by his oh so stroppy ex tried his best to calm everyone & saw an opportunity to instill a more peaceful approach to violence in the young fella who has obviously seen poor Ian get battered by his own mum, she was a pieace of work with her sarcy impatience towards poor Ian, fascinating to watch all the same. Time capsules on film.
It would be interesting to find out the outcome and what happened to these people
Dead
half are dead
Brown bread i would think a lot of them ..
Most likely all dead from methothelioma
Not nice but true
Ian seemed like such a sweet person. My heart stopped when that drunk idiot stormed in and grabbed his ex wife's hair. Awful.
With little Rikki seeing his mum so upset. No one comforted her . Ian was way to accepting of that man's behaviour. 😢
@juliet7703 I didn't even expect my comment to stay up so I kept it short, but I agree with you. I hated that the boy had to witbess that and that it had to happen to her. Ian and his ex MIL were all so oddly passive about a situation that was frightening and traumatic.
Or just a wimp lol.
So the TA committee has to meet to decide if someone else can use the TA meeting room for a meeting ? Oook, then.
Why weren't the police called that was absolutely horrendous!!!😮
nobody likes a snitch
@@Piffaliffgrow up 🙄
People deal with domestic matters themselves
@@geordieal9187 by ignoring it ?
as if the police care about the poor
I lived in London from 89 to 93.
😮
So did I.😊
Wild era
I was a pub landlady.
Seee how clean everything is.
The Government should be giving all Council Boroughs in London the same amount of money , and the Council's should not be wasting it every year just so they can get the same amount again , by not giving every Borough the same amount of money is a form of descrimination .
People these days that are on benefits don't seem to be struggling at all !!! They seem to have more money than our household and we work full time,I feel so much empathy for these people on these shows they really were struggling.
I bet you've never put a foot wrong anywhere, right?
Or is this just another chance to sneer at poor people because
they're common & English. So, what do you think about the
1000s of free loaders coming over from France in little boats?
That's because we have access to finance and credit cards, we also had human rights groups fighting to keep us out of poverty and improve the lives of our poor children
Overlord X went on to some good things, nice to see him make something of himself.
Quite the entrepreneur is that guy renting out abandoned council flats 😂
Yes but did fuckall when his ex wife got hit
Who could have predicted the Grenfell Towers fire?
The 90s ! When jobs were galore and housing was affordable.
@@angela64355 housing might have been affordable but the useless government and local authorities had 3,000 properties that were not fair to let, so obviously in a state of disrepair, infested, asbestos filled but there was no funding to put them right. Hence squatters all over the area
Not the first half - the economy was a wreck, unemployment absolutely rocketed and hit a high in 1993, and people were having their homes repossessed left, right and centre. There were also a number of riots. The prosperity in the 1990s only came much later towards the end of the decade
You prob weren't around early 90s if you think that OP
if you are talking about 1999 then maybe but when I was a kid in the 90s the poverty and unemployment was terrible much worse than the years of austerity a decade ago. homelessness was also rife with every shop doorway in large towns and in cities were bedrooms for the homeless. The nights we often sat in complete darkness because we had no money to top up the electric and that was common. Also new labour's minimum wage helped lift low paid workers out of poverty. It was perfectly legal to pay someone £1 per hour and if you're desperate for work you would take it but that doesn't mean you could afford all of your essentials.
I was lucky enough to have parents who both had good jobs in the early 1990s. Yet you're right. The economy was buggered in the early 1990s.
Wonder what ever happened to the rapper a lot of nice working class people in this film
It's a snapshot into a period of time that has gone forever. As someone who grew up in the 1980s, this is great. I miss those simpler times occasionally.
@@mrkipling2201 Yes i was a 80s kid i loved the 80s so much nicer than today yes it was hard at times but life was much more simple ..
@@BlytheWorld1972 I couldn’t have put it better myself.
He actually write for Peter Andre and Craig David!
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6:56 wearing all that gear whereas tenant children n elderly breath that in 😢 . But amazinv documentary tjere were always something romantic n dreamy nostalgia about 90s; vibe, fashion, music, tv, alll of it
32:00 why didn’t her bloke go to the woman’s aid instead of letting him get away with assaulting her?
Then he enabled an assault on himself too and the drunk got away with it all?
My mind boggles!?!
Poor Ian, his ex missus is proper horrible and his mate is a violent drunk.
Ian is dead😢 I found a death record from 2016 on Ancestry.
Aww
Do you know what happened?
@@lolmac6456 No, no info on cause of death.
@@catherinecurran7898 😭
@@lolmac6456 he died
Overlord x ! Jesus that brings back memories
I have to say, at around 13:00, the police seem like something out of Peppa Pig in 1991 compared to today, even the way they are dressed.
I remember back in the day, when cops were depicted in the future to be much like they are today and thinking the same in reverse.
Give a few tenants a title ie Tennant’s Association, and they think they own the bloody estate !
They say power corrupts. I'd say people who enjoy power seek power. I was a member of a similar association once and it was all about them getting what they could get out of it and having power over who else got anything. Same old.
Omg I don’t think I’ve ever witnessed a more horrible person than Tom and that wee boy 😢 god love him ..lovely childhood memories
1:48 Every estate needs needs a couple like this.
He was in love with Ian
Id like to know which lettings / estate agent empire John has now!
This is a brilliant reality series. Would love a reunion episode. Wonder what happened to them all? Anyone know?
The rapper went on to really good things, he wrote for Craig David and a few other big names
Ians dead, in 2016 or 18 and the rapper did really well has written for Craig Daved and other big names
Oh my god...that poor woman. And the camera man just standing there filming!
Mick and rod local police, i remember them 😂😂 funny seeing his face after all these years
I cant be certain, but I think there may be asbestos in those flats? 🥺🥴🥴 That guy was right to be furious that the Council actually moved him into an asbestos filled flat. I hope he wasnt unwell, afterwards
Was that drunk lovers with that Ian man?
That's what I suspect
What is that Dire straits track called?
Loved all the benefits and public services running round after them clearing up their mess.
But ran a mile when it came to contributing via the Community Charge.
You mean the poll tax that de throned Maggie😅😅😅
I lived in the old Kingshold Estate. We lived with cockroaches for 2 years before the council had funding to deal with it! It was a good community, and it was not always this bleak! 😊
Just like Clarion housing nowadays 😂😂
My nan lived on the roundshaw estate. I used to hate going to visit her, even as a child all that concrete was depressing
That drunk guy, is he his mate or dad?, he needs to be locked up
How did that scumbag get away with that!
I rem watching this back then. Different types of people then. Great old skool feel with everyday struggles
No no one called the police ,what a lovely fella❤
When kids were seen and not heard 😂
Big joe went down like a bag of shite
Kicks off at 32m !!!
Pmsl I'm waiting for this cheers😂
Overlord X . Them days. 14 days in May.
Asbestos is ok as long as its in good condition. Just don't sand it or break it up.
Why is he charging £50 to find a squat?!!
Business opportunist, lol
@32:12 - Nothing like the community spirit, is there ?
😂😂😂😂Its almost like he heard the bully talking smack to Ian😂😂😂😂 Ian wasn't meant to let the bully in😂😂😂😂😂
Wow. The ending situation made hairs on the back of neck stand up. You couldn’t have made it up.
I wonder if the asbestos flats tenants were able to claim?
Debating whether they’re on the same estate as to whether they can use that tiny hall room or not..to hold a Poll Tax meeting..
It reminded me of Monty Pythons ‘What have the Romans done for us’ meeting with Reg 🤦🏻
Yea, I was thinking the English are really fucking weird😅😅😅 a little bit of authority and the think they own the place
The guy with the large brush. Brushing all the asbestos into air
How different this Bobby is from today's thug police. He's wearing the old style 🛎end helmet.
Not all police are thugs, but today’s ones are definitely far too young. No life experience and get all uppity because they’ve got a badge and a sense of power. I reckon the minimum age for acceptance should be 25….even that’s young, but it’s a start.
I didn't know lester piggot moonlighted as a painter and decorator?
He doesn’t
@@09weenic it was a joke!!!!!
That guy pretending he would fight back, coward
I know its his ex wife and that but come on mate grow a pair. The drunk dude attacked her ffs :o
The good old days I mobile phones
This is more depressing than EastEnders. At least you can switch that off and know it's not real. But this, it's terrible. Things are not improving either. The government can paper over the cracks but at the end of the day the rot is getting worse and worse, especially with Keir's austerity making the Tories austerity look luxurious in comparison.
I wonder what became of Ian?
not much
Died in 2016 apparently
Ted Hankey appearance at 8:40
John the squatter is a true businessman lol
26:51 ???? IS THAT THE BLOODY ELEVATOR BUTTON CONTROLLER???? WHAAAAA
10:52 the eyebrows 😮😂
Eyebrow ! 😂
"I don't usually hit women" jfc
What the hell is wrong with the old guy beating everyone?!!
07:48 the asbestos has wore them out they're only in their 20s!
😂😂😂
Why all the fuss about allowing an anti-poll-tax meeting?
Coppers shut up when they have it explained to them that it's the council who damage the flat by smashing the window to put a steel window in
Rrrm? Why so friendly with the ex wife? He said She had attacked him previous with a knife!
I just cannot belive this is '91!? Feels waaay older, but then I guess its all become a blur for me now ahahahaa.
Thatchers Britain.
blairs britain ,starmers britain poltics hasnt got much to do with it. i lived on council eastates in the 70s under labour governments same scenarios.
We had George Bush lol
@@steveingo All caused by the previous Tory governments and left to Labour to clean up, before people forget who causes their problems again.
For us poor people in society, I would much rather live under a Labour government. Conservatives are only for the rich, and do nothing for ordinary people. Tories don't pour money into the NHS, where Labour put much more money into the system. I'm not for one second saying Labour are perfect
@@alfsmith4936 This is what indoctrination looks like.
Sad but probably worse now in a lot of ways!
"Overlord X, what sort of crap - I mean rap do you write ?"
And a noise nuisance on the estate. Typical.
Actually, he did really well and wrote songs for Craig David and other big names
I read a book called devil shook my hand by some guy from east end called micky gluckstead who is he,i heard some unusual things
People are paying £millions to live in flats like these now (opps sorry, luxury apartments).....halfwits.
Poor Ian deescalating that situation was so hard to watch. Tom is a bitter, nasty person. And a drunk
His own friend smacked the shit out of him for no reason, and he still tried to apologise and rectify the situation for everyone.
I felt sorry for Ian but whatever his history has been, his calm nature even after getting thumped, was commendable. He didn't raise a hand except to protect himself and told the young boy that basically retaliating would not solve anything even if that's what you might want to do in that moment. I wonder what happened to him? Hopefully he will be in other episodes.
@@suz1017 I feel the same way, his perception of the mistreatment was truly admirable. He’s a pacifist, but it seems that people in his life were taking advantage of that. I also feel bad for Shirley, her attitude speaks to years of abuse. So passive aggressive and bitter, I wonder how she ended up that way too.
I hope these people are still alive, and okay
@@avalondreaming1433yeah .. what was it that made you think that then??
@@avalondreaming1433it literally tells us that it's his stepson. Your comment is not the comedy flex you think it is 🙄
A difficult watch. Ian has had a lot of punches in his life 😢. I wish he'd have defended himself.
Who's the Asian kid is that his mum
Yes
Overlord X!
Like watching a Mike Leigh film!