The Mystery of Sekitani Jun - Hyouka's Dyed Hero

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  • Опубліковано 11 бер 2018
  • What does it mean to be "rose-colored?" Did Sekitani Jun achieve the pinnacle of rose colored life? And what is so great about bookends!
    Tackling the "Origin of Hyouka" Mystery in one video is honestly too much to handle, so we're going to cover the specifics of Sekitani Jun here and do some individual scene and episodic analysis later.
    Follow us on twitter: / value_replay for updates about future analyses, projects and quick takes that come to mind.
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  • @gc0video
    @gc0video 6 років тому +167

    I hadn't caught on to this "dyeing" metaphor as containing a coercive element. Nice catch. I find it interesting that the show keeps the character of Sekitani Jun so opaque throughout the series -- they don't even show his face. Here, it seems to serve the purpose of allowing the characters to impose a narrative and personality on Sekitani Jun in the theories they come up with. But I wonder if it doesn't also allow the viewer to make some sort of mental identification between Houtarou and Jun.

  • @heo570
    @heo570 4 роки тому +69

    The child version of chitanda digging many holes represented to me how she is hard working and persistent but bad at knowing where to start and unable to dig deep for a conclusion.

  • @tommyvercetti4687
    @tommyvercetti4687 5 років тому +82

    One of the most underated anime of all time,.. Nice work KyoAni

  • @nicolaimarquez2211
    @nicolaimarquez2211 5 років тому +52

    I hadn't ever consider the duality of the two meanings of Hyouka. I was always kind of shocked by the "I scream" part, but never really thought that the "Ice Cream" had also a meaning in a thematic sense. This videos are freaking awesome, and I really thank you for making them. Hyouka has been one of my favorite animes since I watched it... but, as I realize most of the times I watch video essays or read essays on the net, I tend to like stuff, but have problems understanding why do I like them so much. There's very few analysis in regards to Hyouka to be found on the internet, so it's very pleasant to have someone to tell me why is it this show affected me so deeply.
    Lately, I've been finding myself getting this little details when I watch media, and giving a more piercing and critic look at everything I consume. As I haven't seen Hyouka in a long time, maybe is time for me to revisit it, and look at it a little bit more closely. The reason why I've started to be more aware of the little details that make media great is people like you, so thanks again. Awesome video :)

  • @hyst6081
    @hyst6081 3 роки тому +25

    when the meaning of hyouka was revealed i got chills

    • @magicalgirl4
      @magicalgirl4 2 роки тому +2

      I *still* get chills and I've watched it more than once.

  • @aarjavjogani9240
    @aarjavjogani9240 4 роки тому +40

    I don't want to spoil it for anyone, but in the 5th novel (or 6th, I'm not sure which since I read all the novels in one go), we find out the reason why Houtarou started following his motto. There's a beautiful little story about what his sister told him when he first decided to follow the grey life. It was truly moving. I would recommend everyone to read the novel.
    Edit- also we find a deeper similarity between sekitani and oreki

    • @minhanh_5h
      @minhanh_5h 3 роки тому +1

      The 6th, the short story about the long holiday

    • @Cobat_28
      @Cobat_28 Рік тому

      Where to read the novel.. please give link

    • @rench.212
      @rench.212 Рік тому

      @@Cobat_28 it's in bakatsuki

  • @rabidwhale9707
    @rabidwhale9707 6 років тому +105

    Dude, your videos are phenomenal! I've been waiting, wanting someone on UA-cam to break down Hyouka and give it the credit it deserves.. This video was great everything flowed nicely and your input on the narrative was spot on! keep it coming dude, I love it.

  • @leeboonkang2
    @leeboonkang2 6 років тому +85

    At ep 2, when they first meet the librarian. After she told them that the anthologies are not in the library, she walk away towards the camera and her name tag comes into view which indicates one of the clue to her being the author of the second anthologies. That if only u can read japanese.

    • @roshnirana2098
      @roshnirana2098 4 роки тому +2

      Great catch dude

    • @joshuaamadeusishak1887
      @joshuaamadeusishak1887 4 роки тому +4

      Yeah, Houtarou also mentioned it when correcting his theory since how the characters used in her name is not common in the current time and age.

  • @scepter_x6383
    @scepter_x6383 5 років тому +25

    "I scream" sekitani jun-

  • @nothingiseverperfect
    @nothingiseverperfect Рік тому +2

    These always come back recommended to me, and I always watch them. It’s been so long since I’ve watched Hyouka but it brings back such nostalgic memories. Rose colored ones even.

  • @namocool
    @namocool 6 років тому +12

    Someone help... I can't stop watching these videos

  • @roshnirana2098
    @roshnirana2098 4 роки тому +6

    That i scream and rabbit scene is my fav in whole

  • @Savvv18
    @Savvv18 4 роки тому +5

    I'm so glad that I found your channel, your breakdowns are just so on point, showing how much might have gone into making the anime

  • @igez5278
    @igez5278 6 років тому +25

    Once again, great video and analysis! Good editing, smooth voice and a brilliant script, all coming together in one video. Honestly, I love love Hyouka so I pretty much love almost every video about it. But the fact it is done by you makes it even greater!
    I usually have something to add afterwards, but this time I feel you really covered all the bases! Nice work and I hope to see your next Hyouka video :)
    P.S. Congratz for 1K subs, your hard work is clearly garnering attention and I hope you continue growing :)

    • @ReplayValue
      @ReplayValue  6 років тому +3

      I love the additional analysis you do in the comments - but I won't lie that not giving you anything to work with this time around, when I was attempting to be super comprehensive is a pretty nice feelings too 😀

  • @LittleCrowYT
    @LittleCrowYT 6 років тому +8

    Definitely gonna rewatch this show now

  • @dinosf
    @dinosf 6 років тому +11

    another excellent video and and worth every second i watched it
    hope to see the next one soon....pleaseuploadmore
    also congratz on the highly deserved 1k subs and hope there will be many more to come

  • @TheHABL0
    @TheHABL0 6 років тому +1

    Great video man! Was waiting for the next Hyouka video, glad it's finally here. Can't wait for the next one!

  • @martin201150
    @martin201150 6 років тому +2

    Wow, you just gave a lot more meaning to the name of the show for me. Thanks and I look forward to more of your videos

  • @garyl4672
    @garyl4672 5 років тому

    Ahhhhhhh! I found these videos yesterday and I’ve been watching them almost continuously. I can’t stop.

  • @rianborah2152
    @rianborah2152 6 років тому

    Congrats on the 1k! Your hardwork in these videos put up a whole new meaning to the show!

  • @proper1420a
    @proper1420a 6 років тому +20

    I like to read Oreki's observation in ep2 that he can't be like the other three as that of an introvert. A common distinction drawn between introverts and extroverts is that socializing expends energy for the former, an idea that fits with Oreki's obsession with energy conservation. Oreki can't do what Chitanda, Mayaka, and Satoshi can do so effortlessly.
    I'm not inclined to take without reservation what Satoshi says during the bike ride to Chitanda's house in ep4. The shocking pink he so readily accepts is an unnatural color; it's one likely to be dyed. And it's odd that he tries to reassure Oreki that being gray is OK. So I'm not willing to say Satoshi is "tired" of this topic, just that he's bothered by it.
    I don't think the distinction you try to make between the silk spider club mystery in ep1 and Oreki's theory about Sekitani Jun in ep4 is correct. Satoshi persuasively argues at the end of ep1 that Oreki went beyond his motto in creating the silk spider mystery, and Oreki's forceful response that he didn't want to reject Chitanda is essentially an admission of that.

    • @sollertia_
      @sollertia_ 5 років тому +2

      Yes, I agree that he's more bothered than bored after finishing the anime... he calls himself shocking pink in reference to his view of himself in the valentine's day mystery imo

  • @ranuastika9847
    @ranuastika9847 6 років тому

    just found your channel man, great channel!
    and Im fan of hyouka too

  • @jeffroidg
    @jeffroidg 6 років тому +2

    Great video! You've earned yourself a sub :)

  • @gideoncheung8731
    @gideoncheung8731 6 років тому

    Another stellar video.

  • @knightblad5631
    @knightblad5631 6 років тому

    YAY! Another Hyouka Video!!!

  • @howardhui746
    @howardhui746 5 років тому +4

    Sicilienne by Fauré. Great analysis. This has really scratched an itch that no other youtuber has done before. I don't know why, but it just seems that Hyouka isn't that popular with Anitubers. Sad times.

  • @diegojaramillo8119
    @diegojaramillo8119 6 років тому

    Loving your analysis to this beautiful anime. looking forward to see a maybe Shouwa Genroku Rakugo Shinjuu analysis? Thank you for your videos

  • @caircade887
    @caircade887 6 років тому +10

    In your opinion, Which opening do you believe is better?

    • @ReplayValue
      @ReplayValue  6 років тому +19

      Yasashisa no Riyuu (OP1) is definitely my preference of the two - I think it captures the spirit of the show a lot more and it's the one that comes to mind when I think of Hyouka. (Probably going to analyze them both at some point though maybe once I've tackled the episodes that they're associated with)

    • @nelsonwang2753
      @nelsonwang2753 6 років тому +5

      Yeah that one was my favourite for a long time, but the second one slowly grew on me, until I liked it as much as the first one.

  • @milanletic1772
    @milanletic1772 6 років тому +2

    Another fantastic analysis! You covered a lot in video ,but at no point did it seem boring or overwhelming, rather it fit together really nicely. Only one thing , I might be just imagining it ,but setting aside scenes and general direction of the episodes it seemed to me like you were restricting yourself in few parts of analysis. Like you didn't want to overextend or go to in depth. if you are worried that the audience might not like it or that the videos will be too long ,I think you a worrying over nothing. I think there are a lot of people who like longer and more in-depth videos. I would also like to hear more of your personal thoughts, because you never know if some scenes have multiple meanings that are not so apparent because the themes that are already set overshadow them. Well that's just my suggestion since it could be that I am only imagining it ,but to sum up you don't have to hold back if you are doing it. You are more experienced and knowledgeable when it comes to these topics so I can hear a lot of different opinions and learn. So feel free to do analysis as you like without holding back.

  • @vencedore1000
    @vencedore1000 6 років тому

    Impressive!

  • @Dragomorph
    @Dragomorph 5 років тому +2

    Thanks to YT to recommend this video.. i've found a channel that actually talks a lot about hyouka! aka my favorite anime =D
    Going the check the other videos ^^

  • @albert6049
    @albert6049 6 років тому +1

    Hi, can I hear which mystery was solved 20 years later, cause I don't really know which it is. Is it the mystery of why Satoshi does not accept Mayaka?

  • @NaramSinofAkkad790
    @NaramSinofAkkad790 3 роки тому

    The sadness I feel now is the happiness I felt before. That's the deal.

  • @Che1seabluesdrogba11
    @Che1seabluesdrogba11 5 місяців тому

    The I Scream rabbit

  • @aguywhosalwayslateinschool9138
    @aguywhosalwayslateinschool9138 3 роки тому

    hyouka - ice cream - i scream

  • @Mahalakshmi-il7fy
    @Mahalakshmi-il7fy 3 роки тому +1

    He is young yagami light

  • @eccentricvillain
    @eccentricvillain 6 років тому +1

    HEY! I'm insulted by that comment about attention spans! we're not stup.... Oh look another video!

  • @kacembenbrahim8272
    @kacembenbrahim8272 4 роки тому

    i see hyouka i click on the video

  • @kreavitawastaken
    @kreavitawastaken 3 роки тому

    Did her uncle die tho?

    • @nellyymo6809
      @nellyymo6809 3 роки тому +4

      We will never know

    • @nellyymo6809
      @nellyymo6809 3 роки тому +3

      Because he’s just legally declared as dead because he’s been missing for 7 years so yeah.. we’ll never know

    • @kreavitawastaken
      @kreavitawastaken 3 роки тому

      Okay, i thought i missed something :)

  • @KingOfTheQuincies
    @KingOfTheQuincies 3 роки тому +1

    I thought “ice cream” meant like white food a “white rabbit” and how he was sacrificed like an animal and eaten

  • @WorthlessWinner
    @WorthlessWinner 6 років тому

    I am the protagonist of this show xD
    I hate how so many shows are about cynical nihilists learning to care about this (utterly meaningless) world and the (pointless) people within it.... why can't we have shows about nihilists converting idealistic children to the truth that life is pointless and they might as well give up and die?
    If i put on my tin foil hat, I think the big companies that make anime are trying to brainwash audiences into caring about pointless stuff like relationships, so they'll become karoshi artillerymen and work themselves to death for the profit of their corporate overlords. Not that it matters if people do that ("you got nothing better to do") but why put in the effort to do it if it doesn't matter :P
    5:20 That she's worked so hard on something meaningless should make him laugh at how pathetic she is, to not know how pointless all her efforts are.
    Rose colored glasses make you a fool and stop you seeing the truth, i'm glad the story about the uncle shows this :p but i guess the protagonist continues down the foolish path even knowing it's folly, because anime is a corporate product trying to turn us into worker drones...

    • @vanthursday
      @vanthursday 5 років тому +8

      It looks like you didnt even watch the show and just start talking about stupid things like corporations and worker drones like how is that related to this story at all.
      You completely missed the point.. The students were protesting that they didnt have enough days for their school festival so they protested to school board of the school to extend the days but it turned violent and they accidentally burned one of the buildings down. Chitanda worked hard to find out what her Uncle told her when she was young because she remembered that it made her cry and because her uncle went missing after that. They found out that her Uncle had been carrying the burden of everyone because the other students didnt want to take responsibility on what happened. Because deep down he regret taking the responsibilities and get kicked out of the school. He lost his rose colored life and was marked as a bad student for the rest of his life. In the end she was happy that they finally solved the mystery because in the end the school actually gave them more days for the festival and the school finally found out what really happened and what he felt.
      Houtaro compared himself to Chitanda's uncle and he said he doesnt want to be like that. Full of regret and all gray. You have to live your life to the fullest but you just have to remember there are ups and downs in life

    • @ceagst
      @ceagst 5 років тому +7

      @@vanthursday He probably just wanted to look redpilled by showing his superior outlook on life saying relationships are pointless, Chitanda's efforts were meaningless and people that care about their friends and try to make the most out of their good moments are fools. Also sprinkling some weird conspiracy shit on top of that.