Full-Suspension, Fat-Tire Step-Thru | Cyrusher Kommoda Review | Newest Electric Bikes
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- Опубліковано 4 сер 2024
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00:00 Intro
00:30 Looks
01:32 Motor
02:34 Battery
03:55 Brakes
04:58 Gears
06:21 Extras
07:04 Suspension
08:57 Controls
09:57 Riders
12:20 Ride Test
19:05 Final Thoughts
MAKE:
Cyrusher
MODEL:
Kommoda
PRICE:
$2,200
BODY POSITION:
Upright
SUGGESTED USE:
Neighborhood, Urban, Cargo, Commuting
ELECTRIC BIKE CLASS:
Class 3
WARRANTY:
2 Year Comprehensive
AVAILABILITY:
Canada, United States, Europe, Worldwide
MODEL YEAR:
2021
TOTAL WEIGHT:
72.40 lbs (with battery installed)
BATTERY WEIGHT:
7.20 lbs
MOTOR BRAND:
Bafang (New versions have Cyrusher motor)
MOTOR TYPE:
Rear-Hub, Geared
MOTOR WATTS:
750watts
MOTOR TORQUE:
85 Newton meters
BATTERY VOLTAGE:
48 volts
BATTERY AMP HOURS:
12.8 ah
BATTERY WATT-HOURS:
614 wh
BATTERY CHEMISTRY:
Lithium-ion
CHARGE TIME:
5 hours
ESTIMATED MIN RANGE:
30 miles
ESTIMATED MAX RANGE:
50 miles
DISPLAY TYPE:
King-Meter 3.7" LCD
READOUTS:
Charge indicator, Speedometer, Odometer, Trip Odometer, PAS Level, Time, Watts, Lights, Walk Mode
DRIVE MODE:
Pedal Assist, 12-Magnet Cadence Sensors, Throttle, Walk Mode
TOP SPEED:
26 mph
FRAME MATERIAL:
6061 Aluminum Alloy
GEOMETRY MEASUREMENTS:
18" Reach, 13.5" Stand Over Height, 28" Minimum Saddle Height, 38.5" Maximum Saddle Height, 27.5" Width, 47" Wheel Base, 68" Length
FRAME TYPES:
Step-Thru
FRAME COLORS:
Orange, Blue, White, Grey
SUSPENSION DETAILS:
Coil suspension & hydraulic lockout and preload adjustment; 100 mm travel; 35 mm deformation; Rear Suspension HLT 100
ATTACHMENT POINTS:
Fender Bosses, Rear Rack Bosses
GEARING DETAILS:
7-Speed Shimano Tourney, SIS Index Shifter
CRANKS:
Prowheel 160mm
PEDALS:
Folding Pedals
BRAKE DETAILS:
Zoom Hydraulic Brake Levers with Motor Cutoff, Zoom Brake Calipers, 180mm disc brakes
SADDLE:
Lankeleisi Sports
TIRE BRAND:
Chaoyang 20” x 4”
TIRE DETAILS:
Max Air Pressure is 20 PSI (1.4 Bar)
TUBE DETAILS:
Schrader Valve
ACCESSORIES:
Fenders + Rack Included, Kickstand, Assembly Tools, Integrated Headlight, Bike Lock, Air Pump, Rear Reflector (New version has integrated rear light with braking integration)
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Solid review! Great details! Thanks.
Thanks for watching!
Absolutely fantastic review. I understood and kept up with all you were stating. I really like the specs of this bike tho I already ordered a rival ebike Lectric, which is in route to arrive any moment. Space is an issue for me and a folding mechanism is essential. Again, excellent review.
Hey Rain! Thanks so much for the kind words. ;) I hear the XPs are pretty sweet and I hope you enjoy the heck out of it.
What's about the mirror's?
@@normacarre2428 Hey Norma, I don't think this one comes with mirrors from the factory, but there are some good aftermarket mirrors to buy. I see a lot of the UK Cyrusher owners who have installed them.
Have a Lectric Xp. Wider handle bars and a 11-28 tooth free wheel its good to go. Real value there.
This thing is just pretty. Love the orange.
this ebike so strong in constraction i like its fork, looks very solid,
Very good vlog The best imfomative report i have heard. Well done.
Wow, thank you! I appreciate the feedback my friend!
The pedals are spring loaded and pop out further from what I've seen. You would have gotten that extra foot room you where looking for. Good info
Good review and nice ebike that color is hot too 😃
Hey there! Thanks for the kind words! Yeah this orange almost doesn't look real. lol
Nice review! Just found your channel and subscribed
Hey Mike! Thanksso much! We have more reviews coming up, so stay tuned for those :)
say i am riding in pas 2 but i dont want to pedal, can i use throttle to get up to max speed of 28mph
Looks like it rides well very comfortable looking ride.
It really is a fun, comfortable ride. They definitely nailed that aspect.
This is a very good review of the Komodo’s! Thank you! I am concerned that you aren’t able to program the levels of speed in PAS and with you talking in Kilometers, I’m concerned that PAS 2 and 3, may be set too fast for an older woman, new to e-bikes, like myself. I would love to set PAS 2 &3 down. Will I be sorry that I can’t?? In mph how fast is PAS 2&3?
Hey Gail, thanks for stopping by and watching our review! I hit you up in your other comment with a link to my ideas on setting up the Kommoda to make it more easy-going. :)
Great review! I have a question. What kind of rear view mirrors would fit on this bike?
Thanks for the kind words about the review! As far as mirrors go, Cyrusher offers these on the Kommoda page - www.cyrusher.com/products/rear-view-mirror
Now, I don't think you have to get those ones specifically, but that should give you a good idea of the style that would work on here :)
@@Ennovation Thank you!
Nice review, what's the warranty like on their ebikes?
Hey there! Thanks for the compliment! As far as the warranty goes, seems to be pretty standard on direct-to-consumer Ebike brands. Here's the link to that info: www.cyrusher.com/en/m/privacy-legal/warranty
Hi.. in the description you said the Minimum Saddle Height is 28" , but on the cyrusher's web it's 31.5", is it mean we can cut off the seat post so it could go lower to 28" for kommoda? I was wondering how low Kuattro can go if we cut off the seat post too.. please advice!
Hey there! The way that Cyrusher defines minimum saddle height is seat to the ground, whereas most people measure that as seat to full extension of the pedal. So I say 28" from minimum seat to the pedal at it's furthest away from the saddle. So, on the Kuattro, it's about 29" or so. A LITTLE bit taller than the Kommoda, but not by much. But because of the larger tires, it adds another little bit for Cyrusher's measurement, where they measure from the ground to the saddle.
@@Ennovation thanks for the explanation! i'm 5'6" (167cm) i wonder if kuattro would fit my height. or can we cut off the seatpost to make it lower? or are you suggest kommoda for my height? thanks a lot!
Depending on your budget, which i understand is always a factor, I would also throw the Ovia into the mix here. The Ovia has all the upgraded aspects of the Kuattro, but has a higher clearance than the Kommoda, so you don't smash or scrape your cranks when trying to make turns. If you wanted to on the Kuattro, you do have some room to shave down the seatpost tube itself. I'd watch that rear rack clearance on the seat, or if you didn't want the rear rack, you could shave that down quite a bit. A pretty decent-sized mod, but not terribly difficult to execute on. I think the seatpost on the Kuattro goes all the way down inside of the seatpost tube, so I don't think cuting the seat post would make a difference here. I think you'd be fine on the Kuattro, based on height alone, seam measurement would be something to consider in this as well.
@@Ennovation i like ovia but its out of the budget range.. so i opt to kommoda or kuattro. my inseam is around 29" or 74cm. and i hope i can stand comfortably while sit on the saddle, because i will carry kids. if the height is not an issue i like kuattro more, but if its too high then i'll go with kommoda.. what do you think?
Great video, thanks for the report. 12.8 AH for this price is not keeping up with the competition...
Thanks John! Actually, their new version of the battery is 14ah, it's still not crazy big, but they are moving those Ah in the right direction.
Great name Kommoda
Hey there! Yeah, I agree. The name is fun! They told me it's a play on words mix of Spanish and Mandarin.
Cyrusher is the only company whos impress me.. The bike could be foldable, then would be better.. XF590 looks also good. But batteries could be bigger.
Hey there! They do have some pretty cool offerings, and also agreed that the batteries could be bigger :P
Not everybody want a foldable bike. Maybe the Sur Ron should be foldable as well
Good review, but it does look like your rear shock is bent some. It just doesn't look straight like it should be.
Thanks! Yeah, the rear shock geometry seems to be a bit skewed on this version. I got one of the first ones off the line before it was mass-produced, so they may have aligned that a bit better on the newer models.
Can the stem be tilted up+back?
It sure can. It's got certain limits on degrees (marked with some hash lines) but you have some decent flexibility with this stem.
Can you change the battery?
Hey there! This is not a 100% unique battery design, so I'm sure you could locate some other batteries that have some more amp hours in them. You also have that rear rack if you want to get really DIY and make something huge to throw on the back.
i got the XF800 last week love it
don't like this one myself
i do like the display and the break light
Hey Chris! It's definitely a different vibe than the 800! I would say it's for a different audience as well. The screen is pretty cool, and one of my favorite aspects. The integrated battery is also well executed on this one. Nice snug fit, no rattling or loose fit. It's an interesting and unique bike for sure :) Which color on the 800 did you get?
@@Ennovation i got the white with the black wheels only cos i did not like coloured wheel in the other 3.
but i agree with what u say. i bet its good for smaller people and maybe younger if there safe :)
Cyrusher Kommoda seams much more refined than any other similar bike at this price, your sample looks like it has a damaged/defective rear shock absorber.
Hey there! I agree that it does have a more refined look about it. I think it really has that going for it! The rear shock does look like it might have some issues, you're right. Now, this one that we got was literally the first one produced, so it was a sample model. I haven't paid too close attention, but I wonder if other reviewers are showing similar issues there? or maybe it was the production demo model that we got.
How do you buy one
Hey Bryce! You can pop on over right here (if US) www.cyrusher.com/products/kommoda-ebike
Thanks for posting considering a e-bike myself see all kind of reviews but wish most people would get right down to the basics how much does it cost how fast it will go on how far it will go a lot of the other things completely irrelevant
Hey Jim! I totally get that idea! I think what I've found is that everyone is looking for different details, like someone may care about hydraulic brakes more than the range, or top speed. So, I tried to set mine up with the chapters, so people can skip around to find the important information for them. I also don't usually put prices in the videos, because these companies are always having a sale, and it is a bit of a hassle to constantly be adjusting my review details. I do sometimes list the price in the description with the specs, but I always link directly to the product page so people can get the most up-to-date prices from the brands themselves. Thanks so much for stopping b, and if you have any questions, let me know! I love talking to you guys! (I don't just say that at the end of the videos lol)
Thanks!
Have you received an Ovia, yet? I can’t wait to see your review!
Have you received the Ovia yet, to review?
Hey Gail! Working on the review now! Just verifying my measurements, so wanted to answer some of your questions. First off, first impression is great on the Ovia. New display is sweet, suspension is upgraded, slick look and feel, feels pretty polished.
The height on the Ovia from top of the seat to the floor is 35 inches. But, the seattube doesn’t allow the full seat post to slide down, so if you wanted to, you could hack off 2 inches from the seat post it comes with and being that height to 33”.
Pedal clearance is just over 6” so a big improvement from the Kommoda there.
Stand over height is 18”
Reach is around 18-20” and I’ve got the bars positioned pretty much straight up and down (so you could tilt them back if needed)
@@Ennovation Thanks! I’m excited. So you think the rear suspension is better than the Kommoda? I won’t mind cutting off the seat post. I’ll compare your Ovia measurements to the Kommoda’s. Looking forward to your review. Is it a big deal to not have an integrated tail light and no brake light? At that price, I can’t believe they did that.
If you want just the looks, go for it! Looks a heavy duty ebike but only have 12.8ah?! Huh!, lol.....
Hey there! Yeah the looks are pretty up there, but I would love if there was a bigger capacity battery available too. Can't we look good AND go far? :P
12.8 ah ?
Hey there! The version that we have was a 12.8, but I believe Cyrusher is going to be offering this bike with 14ah batteries going forward.
Says 14 ah in their website.
looks like one of the new himiway variants.
Hey HOGO! It does remind me of the Himiway Big Dog a bit! There are some look differences, but the idea of having a beefy step-thru is pretty similar there.
Like the looks of the bike, but the smallish battery and the fact that the throttle does it give you full power at all times is a real turn off to me. I don't know why these companies insist on determining the power available at the throttle by the pedal assist modes, makes no sense to me.
Hey there! Looks are killer, definitely agree, and the smaller battery has been a complaint here from a few different people, which I totally get. I also don't like that the throttle is dictated by the PAS, BUT i did hear someone say that if you were showing someone the bike, or letting them ride it, that it does keep them safer and make sure they don't yank the throttle and end up on a Friday fails somewhere :P Not enough reason for me to want that feature, but hey maybe there's some thought behind it lol
makes perfect sense...as BOYLTON a ebike builder '''i build em to ride not to pedal''
Looks nice for a small person, but the Price is way too high, and the Battery is way too small (12 Amp Hours).
I agree with ya on all points there :P Although I am 5'10/11" and it fits me really well, super comfortable. But it is also a pretty good fit for riders around the 5'4" range. It's one of my favorites to just cruise on (pedal geometry isn't 100% where I'd like it) but If I'm just using the throttle, it's a super chill ride. And yeah give me a 20ah battery please :P
The rear air suspension looks bent.
You know, you may be right about that. I was getting that squeaking noise during the ride test, and I was 90% sure it was the rear suspension not being in alignment. The more profile shots I look at, the more I think that may have been the case here. It still worked, and the ride was comfortable, but it did yell at me a bit more than normal. lol
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Thanks Adam :)
Just took delivery of my new Kommoda yesterday and got an unpleasant surprise! They have now downgraded the hub output to just 250 watt and also placed a speed reduction to limit it to 15 mph to bring it into line with UK legislation for street bikes.
They also include a thumb throttle kit for you to fit and they say that for users wanting to remove the restrictions for off road use, etc, they have introduced a video guide showing how to do it.
I contacted customer care and asked where the video was - this was obviously a new idea to them and eventually they gave up and asked me to submit a ticket for technical help - this I did and received an acknowledment but that was it! Nothing more heard!
So if I haven't heard any more from them by tommorow it's going back = all the fuss about the powerful motor and then they deliver a 250 watt - not good!
Oh, man! Sounds like a bit of a mistake. Selling it as a 750, but delivering the 250 version instead. it is cool that they are offering something in line with restrictions over there, but if you wanted the 750 version, well that's about 500 watts short! Would love to know how this situation resolves itself.
I've just watched the video on cyrusher UA-cam...you just unplug the white wire on the speed controller...looks Easy to give you the full 26 mph
ua-cam.com/video/XK4uUOwrTnw/v-deo.html
It is the 750w motor but labelled 250w to meet uk regulations - you can unlock the full power of it
@@trusslerdamian that's amazing re the sticker ...that takes guts from a company lol ...but great stuff !!!
Same story with rad bikes too - the radrunner in the uk uses the same motor as in the US - just configured to output to 250w, which can be unlocked to get the full 750w power
Nice looking bicycle ! But 12.8. Battery no thanks.
I agree with you there! If It was going to be my personal Ebike, I'd probably want it to sit a bit higher off the ground than it does, and also would want a larger capacity battery. I don't MIND charging the bike every day, but I wouldn't want to have to charge it every day :P
They sell a 14 HA extra batterie on shop, could help goin' farther
@@alkatrajazzldleed4793 can you change the battery?
Is it waterproof?
Hey Pat! The bike is waterproof to a certain extent. Its not meant to drive through a creek, or lake, or anything like that, but should hold up to some puddles and light rain fairly well :)
@@Ennovation I mean, do you know the IP ratings? I didn't see it on their website.
Let me check with the Cyrusher guys and see if I can get that answer. I’ve also got some info from them that I can look through as well.
So I went through some exchanges I’ve had with them, and I don’t see anything on the Kommoda specifically, but the other bikes we’ve reviewed are IP65 rated. I THINK the Kommoda would be at that same level, but can’t confirm yet. The search continues :P
@@Ennovation thanks for checking it out
I make that as right at 24 MPH with a BRAND NEW battery. Too slow. Need 30 MPH to have decent performance as LI-Cobalt battery deteriorates.
Yes this is not the bike for you. You should get a bike with a higher top speed?
Get a moped
This tip is to encourage you to answer my question. 😉
First off, thank you for this! Super cool :) I ran over to my storage unit and tested out a few things on the Kommoda and made a short little video about it!
ua-cam.com/video/eR9Z4b-xDUY/v-deo.html
You might have to just copy and paste that link for it to work! HD version is currently processing, so in a little bit, the quality on it should jump up pretty good.
Hope this helps! (check the description of that video for the new PAS 2&3 speeds in MPH)
Pity we cannot buy one in UK
Hey Roger! I’ve heard there are some people that do have them over there. Is there certain places you can or can’t ride them? I’m more familiar with our rules in the states than overseas.
Hi go to cyrusher uk website, they’re based near Gloucester. If you can get there you can book a test ride, or just order on internet and have it delivered to your home.
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Welcome to the channel :)
$2400 dollars. This bike could have built in back massagers but that price makes it just a niche market bike for people who have more money than sense.
That's a fair assessment! Right now it looks like it's actually dropped to $2200, but still doesn't come with the back massagers :P
17ah battery should be minimum in 2022
I totally agree! Would love to see a bigger battery on this bad boy.
It's not the same looks like their cheaping out on their motor quality and who knows what else by the time the bike gets to your door , just like a lot of other brands I've been looking at.A lot of them state tire brands ,brakes and other components could be of a different brand when it's shipped to you .. SO be aware of that!!!🧐🧐🧐🧐🧐
Hey John! Just to clarify, you got one one of these and the specs are different the review unit I got?
John, sometimes because of supply shortages, they have to swap out parts, but not intentionally.
no cop, no stop.
Where's that T-shirt at? ;) hahaha
Design doesn't make sense. Why folding pedals and full suspension for this design. Radrover & Adveton Aventure cost less and have similar, if not better, performance.
Hey Thomas! From a design perspective, I totally agree with you. It was an interesting idea. I for sure would swap the folding pedals. And if you put it up against the Radrover or Aventure I'm not sure the Kommoda would win any comparisons there, except maybe most interesting design :P
Maybe it can be put into a 6 inch narrower spot because of folding peddles?
@@Ennovation hmm. how about the rear suspension on the Kommoda? neither the aventure or rad have that in their step through. def unique
You know that's a really nice looking bike but it is really way overpriced for what you get there are a lot of e bikes out there that doesn't cost that much
Hey Don! I agree the looks are pretty dope! What other Ebikes are on the market do you think are comparable, or in the same vein as this one, but cheaper? I'm always looking for good comparisons :)
Well I've actually got two e-bikes right now I've got the tego Pro and I've also got the new G-Force that I give $1,200 for that got the 750 watt motor as well both bikes have the 750 watt motor they both have the best hydraulic brake you can get on any ebike I feel for the money they are a lot better of a deal you actually get more for your money
Looks heavy as hell this is an ebike that can’t be ridden without the battery 🪫
It is definitely not very fun to ride without the battery. The gearing here is not setup for it to be super efficient. I usually double check my distance to location when hopping on! Cause I've had to pedal it about 3 miles before, and yeah that was tiring :P
This is just a copy of becool bikes with a pathetic battery
Hey Sam! I was looking at the Beecool lineup but didn't notice one that was too similar to the Kommoda. Can you tell me which one you're referring to? I definitely feel you on the battery though! I wish it had some more juice in it for longer rides.
@@Ennovation the beecool adventurer it’s not a step through but it’s a full suspension fat tire bike but it has a 21 amp hour battery and it’s less money . I don’t own a beecool bike just an observation. I’m more a diy , my ebike is a bbshd mid drive with 2 parallel 52 volt 20 amp hr batteries
@@samspade4050 I gotchya! Yeah, that battery is much bigger...but also, you're running 2 52v 20Ah batteries on your bike? O.O That's freakin awesome! Do you have any pics or a walkthrough video anywhere I can see?
@@Ennovation I haven’t done a video of my bike but I can send you pictures if you like . Just post your email if u like
Too expensive ebike..
Hey there! Are you saying it's too expensive for what it is? or too expensive in general? I'm curious to get your thoughts since it does seem to be a very middle-tiered price Ebike.
BUY A HONDA MOPED. it will last longer.
As somebody who has plenty of friends with honda mopeds, I can confirm they will most likely last longer :)
Yo...its too much with the hands. I get what your trying to do here but honestly all it does is distract me and kinda make me dizzy. Otherwise, great job with the specs.
Hey Brian! Thanks for watching. I’m unsure of what you mean about the hands? What do you mean there? ;)
@@Ennovation lol right on. It's your style man!!