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How To Install a Back Yard Sump Pump
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- Опубліковано 20 лют 2015
- Use a Sump Pump in your yard when there is No Gravity fall to the street. In other words, when its uphill from your low spot to the street. A good Sump Pump will easily lift the water up and push it out to the street.
We recommend using a Zoeller M53 or M98. Bith these pumps are great pumps for lifting and removing water.
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Very informative thank you, coworker and I used a directional boring machine and ran my 1" 1/2 , conduit 170' out to my drainage ditch from my back yard and this definitely will help me finish this thing off. Thank you keep the great videos coming
Thanks for posting. Had a contractor do mine and ran 3/4 pvc for 100’ run and first pump lasted a couple months. No check valve and poor French drain work. Good to see how to do my own better when I dig out their shoddy work.
I doubt that you actually had a Real "Licensed" contractor. You get what you paid for.
@@everardorodriguez2445 All 3 of my bids were licensed contractors. I picked the middle price - not the cheapest as they had better reviews online. You don’t always get what you pay for. Make sure you check in on the work while they are doing it and be less trusting was my take home. I usually check in and watch progress , but this time work was underground before I could see.
@@smallfgb A permit would add to the cost but an inspector can do wonders for contractor diligence.
@@edbouhl3100 I agree 110%. My bid was not cheap and permits wouldn't have added much to it - particularly as a proportion. Also those planning shoddy work probably would opt out of the permit/inspection process. Live and learn.
I was a property claims adjuster for 24 years with a major carrier. I have inspected thousands of houses and I would like to add that a "sock" should be around the slotted drain line.. They will fill with silt over time and will eventually clog. I have had 3 basement walls, for example, fail because the drain lines at the base of the basment's walls (on the outside) filled with silt over time and eventually stopped working properly. Not hating on the video at all. Those concentric rings that surround the drain lines encourage sediment to build up by limiting its movement in the pipe. As the water in soil drains into the lines it carries dirt from the ground with it. I have seen this time and again
Filter socks get clogged with silt and fail. In my area at least
Great shot of Paul at 4:10 launching massive snot rocket, won't that clog sump pump?
This is great! I was looking for an example of this application. Thanks
How do you keep the sump pump from freezing in the winter? My Drummond pump says don't use outside 1/4 hp is that true?
Chuck, I wish you were inCT! I would hire you in a heartbeat! So challenging finding good contractors up here for drainage.
How do you keep it from freezing ??
I see the dashed lines on the grass; great job on getting underground lines and cables marked in advance!
Thank you for the very clear and informative video!
I like Chucks attitude
Nice Chuck....you should use impact driver instead of drill which gives you kickback
How do you keep the uphill discharge line from freezing? I have a same issue where the street is much higher that pump and I don’t know how to keep it from freezing during winter.
The pump will clear the line
What happens if the pipe freezes?
This is what I need to take the flood water from my patio to the street.
Just what I needed. What kind of basin do you put it in. Thanks again for your great information.
How would you extend the power cord if the cord will not reach the closest outlet?
Thanks
Codes vary. Dig an underground trench from where you want the outlet to the house. Code depth is 3 feet. Get underground Romex. Not regular Romex. Run it to a breaker box in house or garage. Put it on it's own 20 Amp circuit breaker, get a waterproof outdoor outlet box.
Christian Narine
Me too
Audience question: would it be prudent to have at least 2 in-line check valves on the output line after the pit? Thx
Love your channel.
I really wanted to see the sump basin installation
Thanks Chuck great video much appreciated.
Hi Thank you!
Do you need to put rocks and weed Barrier landscape fiber around the basin? Thanks!
Hey Chuck, just bought my first house and planning on doing this for my yard too. Do I need a cleanout or anything I need to know to maintain the discharge line? I'm just worried about the winter and animals crawling in it
How often do sump pumps outside freeze up and bust every winter? Do you gotta like empty the basin and block it off or something to prevent it freezing, maybe install a damn heater? Or do you have to bury it below the frost line? Because all 3 sound like $$$$ or a pain in the ass to do every year..
I wish you were in NJ.
Terrific. If I have someone install this for me, what range of cost including labor should I expect? Just an idea of $?
Very helpful. Thanks!
Hey Chuck, great video! Do you have any recommendations for experts in New Jersey who are good at solving backyard drainage issues.
Chuck, is it necessary to cover the black coragated hose with dirt? I'm going uphill from backyard and am wondering if I can just leave the hose above the ground and run along the fence line and into the ditch. Great video tips. Thank you!
Great video. Lots of insights. Thank you.
So badass
WOULD THIS WORK ON A HOUSE THATS ON A UNDER GRO9UND SPRING IF WE PUT ONE IN THE YARD?
So I have an issue where We are blocked off from having anywhere to discharge to. Our back yard is an absolute bog. The entire yard turns into a mud pit every time it rains and we live in Alabama so it rains a lot. What can I do without anywhere to discharge too? My initial Idea has been to create a giant gravel pit in the back of the yard and discharge it all to that. Beyond that i have no clue. Our property is in the lowest part of the neighborhood so we catch all the run off. We have been in this house a year and near as I can tell the previous own has done nothing to mitigate this.
Why did you run 2" pipe? Your pump and first pipes were 1.5".
Hey Chuck, love your videos, coming in handy for my personal flooding woes.
Can you reduce the pipe size from 1 1/2” to 1” for the discharge?
I'm surprised you don't use cleaner on pipe and fittings
What keeps the horizontal pipes from being blocked by frozen water?
He is based in Orlando. Bet the no freeze depth is 1” ;)
How much would a project like this cost if your company did it
Great video, just what I needed to learn.
Chuck, is it possible to install a sump pump in line with your french drain line or tee off the french drain and be able to drain both from the french drain line and discharge out with the sump pump? We get super heavy rains near the gulf and with the heavy clay soil, the 4" french drains on either side of the home can't keep up. I wanted to augment the existing drains rather than ripping them out and replacing them with larger 6" lines.
So if it is pumping uphill the whole line is trapped (holding water). Wouldn't this be a freeze hazard? This is a serious question because I have a similar situation in Michigan. Please let me know what I should do in a my area.
pr872 it would freez if the ground Froze deep enough
pr872 1
I think you'd have to use some self regulating heat tape.
@@phiksit No you just wouldn't put a one way valve on the line. You aren't supposed to in exterior installations for this very reason. The water will fill the sump crock which should be lower than the frost line to protect the seals on the pump. The water that didn't make it out the tube shouldn't be enough to start he pump again. The crock sits above a pile of stone, so that stone has to fill up with water before it kicks on anyways. This lets the water naturally dissipate.
If the volume of the line is so great that it would kick your pump on when it all returns, the best thing to do is add a serviceable 1 way, somewhere in the line (like a halfway point). Ideally you are sending water up hill to a height then angling the pipe downhill to a low. So the return water is limited. On your terminal floats, a 90 deg pipe with a hole in the bottom is used. Any resting water works it way out naturally (when placed above stone).
I would have went with either 2 inch or 3 inch pvc or ap pipe verses the Cora gated tube junk. that stuff is known for collecting dirt even if it's sealed. also would have put in a clean out or two.
al johnston make a vid then
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You could probably just "snake" it as a matter of annual maintenance
Question(s): What size gravel would you use to cover the flex? Does the flex have to be pitched toward the basin collector or does the suction of the pump pull the water into the basin? Need to install something like this in our backyard. Thanks, Garry.
Pea rock is just fine to use. And yes slope that toward the basin.
How much did this job cost because I have the same problem I want to know to see if I can afford it thank you
Wow. Nice fix but what happened if it freeze. The line don’t look that deep in the ground
Joe excotic brother
Can I do a back yard sump in northern Ohio? Outback yard floods a lot.
How much an installation like this will cost using same tools?
Does it matter how deep the pvc pipe is in cold areas like the northeast?
Problem is you have a freeze line but you also need the water to drain to the street. So there will always be water above the freeze line - unless you remove the pump and store the pump during the cold season. Remove the pump and release the check valve to remove all the water from the pipes. Otherwise, I guess you could install heating elements to prevent them from freezing over.
Thanks for the tip nice video
Great video, helped us come up with a solution for standing water issues at our home, thanks Apple Drains
@Georgia Mae what did you do to fix it?
that pvc pipe is not deep enough in ground!
Are you in Illinois. If so how much does a project like this cost.
I have flooding in my back garden but no drain for the water to flow into. What can I do about that?
To Irish Mist: Check the video.
Will it freeze in the winter?
you da man
Hey chuck, i had a similar system installed on my property. Any idea how often this pump kicks on and runs then kicks off? I'm monitoring mine and it pumps a good bit of water for 10-15 seconds then takes about 30-45 seconds and pumps again. This is during a light rain. My question is, is this common and all based on the float valve raising and lowering? Should the pump run constantly during a down pour? Thanks!
Sounds like the system is missing the check valve… the pump emptys the basin, but then many gallons of water inside the ground pipe all flow back downhill into the basin and the process repeats itself. Depending on the amount of rainfall the basin should fill in anywhere from an hour or up to 5 minutes if a torrential rain, then pump kicks in and empties basin in about 1 to 2 minutes, then repeat
No primer on the pvc welds
No primer assures a return service charge. Genius.
Guy M sounds like a fraud
Hush.. do you tell your wife everytime she leaves hair in the drain? Then stop trying to be the you should have guy..
Will this work in areas that freeze hard?
Thanks for sharing your knowledge.
Are these outside systems good in cold weather? What if the discharge pipe freezes?
This system doesn’t seem meant for cold climates at all… not buried deep enough. I guess you could add a heat trace cable to keep it from freezing and cracking during ground frost, plus you would have to remove the pump and make sure all water is removed from system. Id bet the plumbing would still freeze and crack
Stupid question. What do you to to prevent rain water from getting into your pump?
Mickey: Remove the pump!
The check valve prevents it
Correct, stupid question indeed. What do you do to prevent a fire from burning..? The whole point of the thing being put in outside is to do what, whats your best guess..? To attract deer? Maybe to trap littke kids ? Do u thing doo doo goes in there? Or your house drain goes to the basin? How do you stop a blender from grinding your pecker off?? Well dont stick your pecker there.. or get rid of the blender.. lol
Yep, great job guys. Better be way down south or that line gonna freeze solid. What did u go down, 6 inches?
not only the line but the pump, probably destroying it. Better use some self regulating heat tape.
Does it freeze very often in Orlando?
If I install a pump and my output is going up hill to the street, how do I keep the discharge pipe empty so it doesn't freeze? Check Valve will keep it from going back, so pipe will be full. I don't want it to freeze.
Typically you would not do it this way. You would have it go down-hill to keep most of the pipe empty, and the vertical part of the pipe would be insulated under ground so that it would not freeze.
If your pipe needs to go up hill, then maybe a sump is not the way to go. Digging down and burying a barrel with rock may be the better option to allow more water retention so that the ground can have more time to absorb the water before it collects on the surface. But if it rains constantly and you can't get a large enough resavaur under ground then this would not help much.
Maybe make a drain so you can essentially turn the system off during the winter?
What kind of permit do you have to have to drill in a curb?
He believed there isn't one, so there is none.
UA-camaholic2 check with your local town ship or city
UA-camaholic2 don't pull a permit just call a professional out to do the thinking hire electrician to check your work
The people who painted house numbers on the curb didnt have permits.. and the damn things break at driveway corners and the city never comes out to fix them or bills anybody for damaging cutbs so if i wanna drill a hole in a curb than im just gonna do it.. now if your on a street with no storm drains and suddenly theres a hole in your curb at the bottom of a new street lake from your yard then my guess is the city gonna have a problem with that..
why were u wearing 2 diffrent gloves
Thankyou for such an excellent video!
How do you keep the sump pump from freeze in the winter??
I wonder about that too. They are in Florida so it shouldn't matter to them. Pipes and pump will freeze up here no doubt. I imagine we would need an easy way to remove the pump during winter months. I don't think it will be able to stay in the ground since it has standing water which will freeze and burst the pvc. And destroy the check valve. I would think the best thing is to remove the pump each year in October then reinstall it in April/May. If remove the pump and release the check valve, that should empty the water from the line.
@@kevinerose your comment is bang on ! You definitely want to remove the pump in October and wait till about April to reinstall so you can avoid the pump freezing and getting damaged
If the water table is 1 foot deep and it freezes at up to 2 feet where do you put the lines?
what to do in power outage?
You can get a battery back up, that supplies power when the power goes out.
Get a bucket and a pancho..
I loved ur job I want to be in ur job
thanks
UA-cam pluming at its best you forgot some steps
Can you just pull a sprinkler line instead of trenching for the discharge?
Wha? So youd have a random sprinkler pop on every time the pump kicked on? So wouldnt that just be putting the water right back in the yard? And with a sump pumps pressure im not sure it would sprinkle out like normal... its not like a sump pump will pressurize a water line because they only have a standing water column of like 20 -30 feet im pretty sure..
@@Z-Ack No, I meant to PULL a line with a trencher instead of digging. No sprinkler on the end, just an easier way to get a buried outlet.
Have you ever run a sump pump using a solar panel? Just curious! Thanks!
The initial cost of a panel, batteries, and inverter is way more than the cost of the power the pump will use over its entire lifespan
V.Vega gotcha! Thanks!
how deep do I dig the trench?
How much you charge for that Job??
You didn't use primer... That's a huge No No 👎
Hush.. no nobody cares..
Audio LEVELS need WORK. Goes from high-normal to very low.
Someone is going to get electrocuted in that puddle....Ouch!!!
Ouch? Puddle? Huh? Nope.. more likely to fall in the pump pit than get a shock..
You need to get away from using that corrugated shit. It's worthless. I've been installing yard drains for 35 years and I only use 4" SDR35 or class pipe.
You should also remember it's up to the person who is paying him to do the work. They may not have wanted to pay for the good piping.
im sure its fine yt is full of weirdo experts