Madeira and Azores Islands in Portugal - The Best Place to Live?
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- Опубліковано 15 лип 2024
- Tiffany and Niko are expats who have lived in Madeira and Azores in Portugal. So which set of islands do they think is better? They talk to Josh from ExpatsEverywhere about the cost of living, public transportation, the weather, the food, meeting locals, and more. What area do they like better? After hearing what they have to say, which island fits your lifestyle more? Could you move there?
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Chapters
00:00 Introduction
00:40 Is this your first experience in Madeira?
01:00 How did you adapt to life in Madeira?
02:58 What types of things did you do to adjust to life there?
04:48 Do you cook at home or eat out?
06:53 What is difference between your budget on Madeira and Açores (the Azores)?
09:40 What islands in the Azores have you visited?
10:35 How long have you been on São Miguel?
10:40 Compare the adaptation between Madeira and São Miguel
13:30 Compare the process of making friends on São Miguel and Madeira
15:40 How is the level of English there?
18:16 What kind of person fits Madeira and/or São Miguel?
21:08 What content can we find on your UA-cam channel?
23:34 Cost of Living between Madeira and São Miguel
29:40 How has living abroad transformed you life?
Thank you guys for having us!!
Our please, Tiffany! Thanks for coming on to share your island life. - Josh & Kalie
@AutumnAspens Aw thank you so much! I have so much new content coming!!
My mother is from Sao Jorge. So when we looked for a place to retire in 2005, we bought a house on nearby Faial island. We moved here permanently in 2013. There is no place on earth that is better.
Nice! Thanks for sharing, Bob. Also thanks for being a public subscriber. We love seeing that little red icon by your name! - Josh & Kalie
Where are you originally from?
As a Portuguese, I have never been to the Azores, unfortunatelly! I have to go, because they are beautiful islands!!!
This was so informative. Thanks for making/posting. I'm trying to work up the nerve to think about retiring in the Azores or mainland Portugal. I also love they effort you put into organizing and indexing this video. Nicely done! Muito obrigado.
Awesome. We're glad you liked it. Thanks for the wonderful compliment. - Josh & Kalie
I have family in Sao Miguel. It's such a magical Island.
Nice, Jennifer. Have you ever visited? - Josh & Kalie
@@ExpatsEverywhere yes. I have been twice. Actually a pretty cool story about how I found my family there. So grateful for social media.
Another great video Josh! Madeira is indeed a more established tourist destination with many resort style hotels and a stomping ground for the Brits for the past several decades. The Azores are coming into their own as a hot trending destination, eco/environment focused and a nature lovers paradise. Prior to Covid the Azores were experiencing a boom and for sure this summer and over the next several years the destination will be in high demand. People looking to escape city life, become one with nature and take things a bit slower will find paradise in the Azores.
I’ve had the opportunity to visit 6 of the 9 islands and look forward to starting our home construction on São Miguel hopefully this year.
Note: Niko can find a gym at Sol Mar Avenida Center in Ponta Delgada and there is also a supplements store in the same shopping center across from the gym (2nd floor if I recall correctly).
Thank you, Paul. Maria did a great job of editing this one. 😊 We appreciate you sharing your thoughts on the two regions. - Josh & Kalie
I was born in Faial. Brought up in Santa Maria. All the islands are beautiful beyond belief.
Thanks for sharing your experience, Frank G! Also, thanks for your public sub! Love to see that little icon! - Josh & Kalie
Another solid interview. Who would be surprised by that?! Thanks! :)
😁 Thank you 🙏
Another nice comment from you. ❤️ Who would be surprised about that!? Thanks for the support, Seamus. - Josh & Kalie
Very good advice on both islands 🏝 thanks for sharing.
Our pleasure! Thanks for watching. - Josh & Kalie
Madeira certainly looks like a beautiful location to live! Great interview, Josh!
Thank you. Madeira is really pretty for sure. - Josh & Kalie
Great Vlog very informative and helpful 👍
Love this couple! They seem so sweet 😊
Hi Kalie, Josh, Valencia! 😊
I researched some properties in Madeira and the island is absolutely beautiful! Awesome video guys, and as always...very informative! 🙌
Hey 👋
Nice. The prices there are still relatively attainable. Thank you. 🙏 - Josh & Kalie
@@ExpatsEverywhere I know, I was very surprised! 🤯. It seems like the place people would be running each other over to live in.
I'm moving to Sao Miguel. Saudades...
Great! We've got a São Miguel video coming out really soon. - Josh & Kalie
Hey there! I'm born in Cascais, lived all around the world and I'm now back. This thing you mention about not being invited to Portuguese homes on the mainland drives me crazy! So different in the Azores - I've lived there 10 years ago :) So hey, if you're ever back in Cascais, you're formerly invited! My house is open for you! Keep enjoying this little country. Just found your channel and it's really nice :) Well done!
Hi Rita! Thank you very much for the commentary and offer. We might just take you up on that. We'd love to hear your living all around the world stories. 😁
So glad you found the channel and reached out. We appreciate it. - Josh & Kalie
Amazing thanks for the advice
Thanks, guys. We appreciate it. - Josh & Kalie
Azores is a bikers paradise. There are places where you can´t go with a car, but there are others where you can´t go fast without a bike. So I insist with the Brompton 6 speed folder which you can put in a car, so the bike doesn´t get too dirty from Azores rain. The only thing I´m really afraid of are active volcanos in Azores. Carnivals are an excellent opportunity to socialize and learn portuguese. Thank you for the nice video! 🙂
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Nice recommendation and comment, Teo!
Thank you. - Josh & Kalie
Madeira by far the Better destination!!!!!
There are beaches in the Azores, really nice one in Praia da Vitoria, Terceira
Thanks for sharing this wonderful video.
Glad you enjoyed it. - Josh & Kalie
@@ExpatsEverywhere 😁
Azores magic! island terceira!! :)...
Thanks for the input, Jorge. - Josh & Kalie
Nice viva os açores
Very interesting! Nice interview. I have been to two of the Azores Island. Only two complaints I can see about the Azores is the lack of medical specialties and the remote nature of the islands.
Thank you and thanks for the comment. Cabin fever for sure. - Josh & Kalie
Madeira is beautiful!!!!
Indeed! - Josh & Kalie
Both of you have picked up on the human vibe lost in most busy fast paced places of modern society but still found in the Azores. Azorean culture is largely based on the distinctive characteristics of island living. They include the relative isolation afforded by these islands, religion, family and friends. The people tend to be much more grounded to the earth making them more real. They are almost painfully aware of the ephemeral nature of all things. These experiences make them instinctively and painfully aware of what's important. Thus, human connection, love, understanding and acceptance of what is becomes all important. Beautiful, peaceful, soothing place. Enjoy these unique moments of your life. The are bound to make unforgettable memories.
My family is from the Azores and I lived there for a few years in the military in the 90s. I loved it. When I’m able I’ll go back. The reason they are so strict on the meat is I lived there in the 90s during the madcow disease out break and all the animals where destroyed . It really hurt a lot of people financially. So they are very strict now. Me and my children can no longer donate blood because of it.
Thanks for adding context to the meat situation. 😊 Also, thanks for watching. 🙌- Josh & Kalie
That’s crazy. They destroyed all the cows from the Azores? In retrospect, I’ve become suspicious of the mad-cow event that happened in the 90s. I’m starting to think these sorts of events are more about $$, gaining new controls, and hurting people. The great covaids deception forced me to learn a lot about, “viruses”, and they definitely don’t work like we’ve been told they do. Thanks for sharing the story, I recall the event but didn’t know the Azores were affected. I thought it was mainly England.
My guess is, the Azores are more American friendly than Madeira because America opened its arms to the Azores when volcanic eruptions forced many to escape. America took thousands of people from the Azores in, and welcomed them. I don’t think they’ve forgotten that. Also, because of its isolation, the people of the Azores are probably a bit more excited to meet new people, whereas Madeira has been more well known for a longer period and has been exposed to more human traffic. The locals in Madeira are probably slightly more jaded by any influx of outside people. I think that’s sorta a vibe on most island.
Azores have more connections to US, the Azorian emmigrated mainly to US and Madeiran to Venezuela/ Brazil. But about friendless will depend in each one experience, but never heard any hostily agains't American's (US) in both Islands.
Tell us more about the active volcanoes... this worries me. Thanks
Very helpful video along with the other ones on the Azores and the other islands!
I'm thinking of moving to the Azores (Sao Miguel) but the only thing that is keeping me from making the leap is the uncertainty about the weather. It appears as though it gets pretty chilly, rainy, and stormy there for a large portion of the year on average. Is this the case?
I'll be moving from the tropics which has lovely weather year-round (30 degrees) and even when it rains it's still t-shirt and shorts weather. Do you think I will find the climate in the Azores unenjoyable or extremely uncomfortable and cold to get used to?
Living in Brazil, I wander the same…
Azores is the most beautiful european archipelago. Its like New Zealand brought to Europe. You didnt show its most beautiful views and islands. Also Ponta Delgada, Angra do Heroismo (used to be the capital of Portugal), some of the prettiest cities.
Hey, we only had some b-roll to work with. - Josh & Kalie
Maybe in geographical terms.
New Zealand is a tyrannical police state nowadays...
@@toadtoadersson2239 Yes, NZ is beautiful, but horrible in terms of politics. Not interested in living there
Ponta delgada is not a beautiful city, But i agree that Angra Do Heroismo is a wonder !
Azores is the most beatiful european archipelago ?!??!?!?? 😂😂🤣🤣🤣🤣! That's your personel opinion of course .... almost sure not the opinion of the majority of every one else. For instance since 2015, Madeira has been elected every year by the “World Travel Awards”, which is the most recognized award by travelers and institutions around the world as the best island destination in the world
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🙏 Thanks, Ana. - Josh & Kalie
Great vlog guys just so you know actor Tom Hanks and singer Kate Perry, David Lee Roth (Van Halen) they are from Portuguese heritage from the island of Azores.
Thanks! Very interesting to know. - Josh & Kalie
Hi is roib from Lecco italy...where r the the neatural hot pools? Terceira or são miguel or both the islands have them?
Hey Roberto. There are hot pools kind of all over. We saw some by Funchal as well. - Josh & Kalie
Are Azores and Madeira both sweater weather year round? When I look at weather online it seems it is usually low 70's for the daily high?
We wouldn't categorize either as sweater weather year round. Madeira stays warmer than the Azores. - Josh & Kalie
How do Madeira and the Azores compare to the Algarve?
In terms of fiber high speed internet coverage?
And access to fresh local seafood?
Comparing the 3 in general is rather different.
Not sure about internet speeds but logic would have us think that Algarve is better but Algarve is also larger. For seafood, all have access to fresh local seafood.
Madeira have a very good internet, that's one of the reason's they made the first nomad digital village.
Hello! I'm coming to Porto this week. What are you up to? ;)
Nice! Have a great time here. Tomorrow we're in Podence and the rest of the week, we're editing videos and living life. 😁 Email info@expatseverywhere.com (Kalie) if you'd like to try to meet up. - Josh & Kalie
Terceira all day long:)
Nice! Thanks for sharing. - Josh & Kalie
São Miguel has really peculiar accent...
Yea, it does. 😁
Coffeeshop do you mean real where you can drink coffee or something els as in Europe?
preciso mudar a as açores!
Go for it, Brian! - Josh & Kalie
Dude city life is way diffrent from country life
Approx how much to rent a automatic car for month in Madiera or Azores?
It's very dependent on when you go but automatic cars are more expensive than manual and in less supply. - Josh & Kalie
Are dairy products cheap in the Azores?
Not really any cheaper from what we saw. - Josh & Kalie
First apply for the essential residence permit and a work permit. When you are refused you ain't going.
Vacations are OK but not longer than 30 days. Pretty much same in all EU countries.
Are locals offering Mother inlaw spaces for rent?
Some places have rooms for rent in homes with Portuguese. - Josh & Kalie
"I like the gym I love my preworkout"
"I'm from LA"
Fantastic! Stay out of the Azores
Islands are beautiful and seductive...
but isolated. (Duh) And these Atlantic Islands can be very damp and cold in winter.
Yup, our Pico Island interview with Laura stated just as much. - Josh & Kalie
@@ExpatsEverywhere Do you mind attaching a link to that video please, I would love to check it out!
This guy's pronunciation of Madeira isn't at all pretentious.
My opinion is that Madeira is undoubtedly the place where I would consider living.
I would never, ever live in the Azores.
Weather conditions in the Azores are usually adverse.
Not in Madeira. Madeira is a semi-tropical island where the microclimate is one of the good characteristics.
The quality of life in Madeira is incomparably better in Madeira than in the Azores
In my opinion, Madeirans are generally more GENUINELY friendly than Azoreans
Since 2015, Madeira has been elected every year by the “World Travel Awards”, which is the most recognized award by travelers and institutions around the world as the best island destination in the world
Madeira is without doubt the most pleasant Portuguese archipelago, as it combines:
- The best beaches:
Yellow sand: Machico, Calheta and Porto Santo Island
Black sand - Seixal and Praínha (Caniçal)
Countless pebble beaches all over the island
- Idyllic mountains, as it is one of the world’s paradises for all those who value hikes along safe trails (no dangerous wild animals, nor threats of crime) and where there are the famous “levadas” (something that the Azores do not have and will never have) !!!!
Hence the reason why Madeira is home to the ONLY UNESCO Natural Heritage site in Portugal.
In ecological terms, Madeira is in the process of reaching the admirable percentage of 50% of dependence of all its energy on renewable energies only
The violent crime rate in Madeira is extremely low (almost non-existent!!)
-In Madeira there is a decent health system (proof of this is that sporadically, citizens from the Azores are evacuated by plane to the Hospital in Madeira in order to be assisted there)
-There are incomparably many more villas and good apartments available in Madeira for sale or for rent.
In Madeira there are small quiet towns but there are also some relatively sophisticated urban spaces for those who might like it (something that is not possible in the Azores)
The Azores is a boring place.
Madeira is a quiet place but not boring
The geostrategic location of Madeira has meant that Madeirans have always been people used to deal with foreigners and that geostrategic location also makes possible to in a few hours, travel by plane in a direct flight to iconic cities such as London, Paris, Madrid, Rome. Amsterdam, Berlin, Brussels, Vienna, Warsaw, Prague, Helsinki, Oslo, Copenhagen, Stockholm, New York, etc
Madeira is definitely a place that can be considered as a place to live.
The Azores not so much. I would never make the decision to move to the Azores (it would be a big mistake)
Hoping that these people don't pollute places and culture with their presence.
Wanted to watch this video but the second I heard her voice? No - just no
Madeira Island is better at everything. Azores has storms, lots of rain and earthquakes
Azores is more beautiful whether madeirans like it or not.
When you say rain and storms, is the weather like this often throughout the year?
I'm thinking of moving there (from the tropics, 30 degrees year round with a wet season of 3 months) but by how you describe it I don't know about my decision anymore. Lots of rain all the time and stormy weather doesn't sound that appealing at all plus the temperature will be cold for me even in the summer
Madeira has no natural beauty like the Azores,and NEVER WILL HAVE!!! only mountains nad more mountains... and no beaches, the few beaches that they have are artificial.... only to spend a few days in funchal and then go away... Madeira is to hot...
@@skurinski, nop!
@@tubbyrainbow111 Madeira and Azores don't have 30 degrees all year around, the weather in Madeira is warmer than Azores mainly because is near to Africa, Azores is in the middle of the atlantic ocean making more exposed to storms, but still better weather than mainland, at least the sea temperature you can swin almost all year around.
I had to stop watching. This interview was horrible.