Tbh… the Midas takes eq and compression really good from what I could tell with the examples given. Considering the price difference, the MIDAS is the winner to me.
SSL hands down. SSL Six is also big bang for bucks all considered. 2x Preamps, with eq + compression, buss compression, summing mixer and host of other features for 1250 euro. Great video bro. My mind's made up for sure. I'll have mine soon. Thanks.
Neve 1073 for me. It sounded kind of 3D, open. 502 held up surprisingly well, sounded a little too mid heavy and 2 dimensional (not by much). SSL sounds good, but kind of restricted all around. I can’t put my finger on it, sounds like it’s a bit narrow. At the same time, ssl sounds very clean. Other than that, they all sound great to me.
Not sure how any conclusions can be drawn from this. These have to be carefully level matched using the RMS of the entire take and the takes need to be multed out from a single take or it's not a fair comparison. If those precautions are taken the results will be hard differentiate, especially if shared as a blind test. Another way to do it is to use three of the exact same mics simultaneously.
Fair point, but was only intended to be a rough comparison - not a scientific analysis, and just a guide to the differences if any. Thanks for the good comment though.
Neve & ssl is for rock and rap music not so much for singers singers needs to sound smooth & less harsh & annoying so the Midas wins for me when it comes to singing vocal.
Some people may be confused that they are hearing a Neve 1073 in this comparison because it's not clearly labeled. You're not hearing a Neve 1073, you're hearing an OPX. The OPX uses surface mount components and the board inside is like a PC motherboard. The OPX circuit is very different from a 1073, OPX uses transformerless output stages and modern power buffering stages, it's radically different from a 1073. OPX is a good unit. They are actually more detailed than a 1073, but they do not have 1073 saturation.
Maybe you should let AMS Neve know, as their description clearly describes it as such: www.ams-neve.com/outboard/1073-range/1073opx/ Admittedly its not a vintage 1073, but I would dispute whether it deserves the 1073 title. Its probably open for debate, open for opinions, and differing opinions create good dialog, however, in my opinion it sounds great and is a very flexible unit. Thanks for your comment none the less, your opinion is as valid as mine 👍
for the price point midas 502 sounds great too
A $200 pre amp… that’s crazy impressive tbh!
Thank you for taking the time to do this. Love the neve.
SSL Six for the win!
SSL FTW! Notice the smoothness of the sibilance with SSL as compared to the others ... and the "jumps out the the speakers vibes"....
Tbh… the Midas takes eq and compression really good from what I could tell with the examples given. Considering the price difference, the MIDAS is the winner to me.
I’ve always loved Neve’s. But for this comparison I’ll take the SSL.
SSL hands down. SSL Six is also big bang for bucks all considered. 2x Preamps, with eq + compression, buss compression, summing mixer and host of other features for 1250 euro. Great video bro. My mind's made up for sure. I'll have mine soon. Thanks.
Neve 1073 for me. It sounded kind of 3D, open. 502 held up surprisingly well, sounded a little too mid heavy and 2 dimensional (not by much). SSL sounds good, but kind of restricted all around. I can’t put my finger on it, sounds like it’s a bit narrow. At the same time, ssl sounds very clean. Other than that, they all sound great to me.
I would tend to agree. great comments, thanks
ssl for me, natural sounding
Not sure how any conclusions can be drawn from this. These have to be carefully level matched using the RMS of the entire take and the takes need to be multed out from a single take or it's not a fair comparison. If those precautions are taken the results will be hard differentiate, especially if shared as a blind test. Another way to do it is to use three of the exact same mics simultaneously.
Fair point, but was only intended to be a rough comparison - not a scientific analysis, and just a guide to the differences if any. Thanks for the good comment though.
SSL Six has amazing preamps sound, are the same preamps at SSL2 or SSL2+? Does anybody knows?
No idea
Thanks! great video
Glad you liked it!
Neve & ssl is for rock and rap music not so much for singers singers needs to sound smooth & less harsh & annoying so the Midas wins for me when it comes to singing vocal.
Thanks for the comment. I like the Midas, and im planning to try it on some drums, guitar and bass…
that ssl is warmer on raw vocals
If $ wasnt option i prefer the neve sounds full… midas i dont like for same price i say ssl
Don't know why, but something is happening with the SSL. Damn that thing is great :O and so inexpensive
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Some people may be confused that they are hearing a Neve 1073 in this comparison because it's not clearly labeled. You're not hearing a Neve 1073, you're hearing an OPX. The OPX uses surface mount components and the board inside is like a PC motherboard. The OPX circuit is very different from a 1073, OPX uses transformerless output stages and modern power buffering stages, it's radically different from a 1073. OPX is a good unit. They are actually more detailed than a 1073, but they do not have 1073 saturation.
Maybe you should let AMS Neve know, as their description clearly describes it as such: www.ams-neve.com/outboard/1073-range/1073opx/
Admittedly its not a vintage 1073, but I would dispute whether it deserves the 1073 title. Its probably open for debate, open for opinions, and differing opinions create good dialog, however, in my opinion it sounds great and is a very flexible unit. Thanks for your comment none the less, your opinion is as valid as mine 👍
Here is a excellent review of the 1073 OPX and it particularly discusses the lack of OP transformers.
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SSL Six sounds better to me
I think Neve sounds fuller because of transformers
I am no electronics expert, but you may be right. I definitely has a sound…
SSL all the way
I just remembered why i sold the opx 😂
Are you not keen on the sound, operation? Personally I love the sound and the connectivity
@@tmmmusicstudio i didn't like the sound, very 2 dimensional and not what i want out of a 1073. I'm using 1073lb, heritage and BAE now.
Ok, fair viewpoint. I love the sound, and I record a lot of drums, so having 8 channels in one unit is a bonus
The SSL is better.....It sounds fuller