Why Don't More Smartphones Have This?

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  • Опубліковано 5 тра 2024
  • The ultimate anti-reflective matte display... has a catch
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  • @yupimrandy
    @yupimrandy 5 місяців тому +10199

    Always love when MKBHD goes back to his roots: reviewing smartphone tech.

    • @chromaticvisuelle
      @chromaticvisuelle 5 місяців тому +231

      It's not enough to call it a review. Just a quick first impression. i had to go to the website to learn many more infos about it.

    • @modestasen
      @modestasen 5 місяців тому +166

      ​@chromaticvisuelle Yes, that's why it's nice seeing MKBHD reviewing smartphone TECH. Technology in smartphoes, not a smarphone it self as a model.

    • @paradoxxmkml
      @paradoxxmkml 5 місяців тому +32

      Yea something not too apple 4 a change

    • @LLLLLLEON216
      @LLLLLLEON216 5 місяців тому +84

      It's not like he doesn't want to. The latest smartphone techs are just so boring that there is little to talk about. It’s not like 10 years ago where every company had their own unique, proprietary tech, gimmicky or not.

    • @Mntrmaheffa
      @Mntrmaheffa 5 місяців тому +29

      "his roots" ... Isn't one of his first review video about fruitloops and softwares?
      I think he did more smartphone just because the 2010s was dominated by smartphone, but I always thought of him as "consumer tech reviewer"

  • @MuhammedChand
    @MuhammedChand 4 місяці тому +757

    Honestly the tablet version actually sounds like an amazing replacement for a kindle! Would have liked to see more of that

    • @Ying-yang6969
      @Ying-yang6969 4 місяці тому +30

      On Kindle you can read it under the summer sunlight, that's the reason people buy shitty Kindle and not other tablets who read on it.

    • @ASLunar
      @ASLunar 4 місяці тому

      Onyx Boox makes e-ink android tablets and e-readers. They're in every way better than Kindles thanks to the Google Playstore.

    • @cheetoritos
      @cheetoritos 4 місяці тому +17

      Yeah, it seems kind of like the worst of both worlds. It's not as bright and sharp as normal screens, and it isn't reflective like real e paper (in the sense that e paper doesn't give off light, you read it like normal paper with an outside light source). So you wouldn't really be able to ready anything outside, and it is still emitting light, so does cause more strain than a kindle.
      I think it's kind of gimmicky.

    • @Dancyspartan
      @Dancyspartan 4 місяці тому +7

      ​@@cheetoritosWell that the tablet wouldn't suffice for outdoor use is just speculation on your part.
      but yeah - at first glance it seems very niche. maybe if you have a kid or like to watch yt vids, but also want the E-ink experience of the paper-style.
      Anywho, Really niche product that i'm betting will fit that absolute core of a fews 'Venn-diagram-of-Wants' and thats pretty cool

    • @NaudVanDalen
      @NaudVanDalen 7 днів тому +1

      @@cheetoritos You'd have to crank the backlight up to 100% to be able to read outside, draining the battery. Meanwhile a Kindle probably lasts months since the screen only uses energy when it refreshes. It also doesn't use a backlight outside because it reflects sunlight and actually ends up being way brighter than normal screens, which have to compete with sunlight.

  • @ChiliM4n
    @ChiliM4n 4 місяці тому +392

    I'd like to see how this compares to a regular phone with a matte screen protector. They also reduce reflections and give it a paper-like feeling.

    • @bretts9373
      @bretts9373 4 місяці тому +35

      Right. This is the first time a review feels like a paid ad...

    • @Dancyspartan
      @Dancyspartan 4 місяці тому +73

      ​@@bretts9373The FIRST time a review feels like a paid ad? C'mon man that's rediciulous.

    • @Daniel-rw2gy
      @Daniel-rw2gy 4 місяці тому +40

      He gave a lot of downsides and literally said not many people will buy it.. how is it like an ad

    • @Daniel-rw2gy
      @Daniel-rw2gy 4 місяці тому +13

      It’s not just matte screen.. he detailed how the tech works

    • @ChiliM4n
      @ChiliM4n 4 місяці тому +11

      @@Daniel-rw2gy That's exactly what I'm saying. It looks like a regular screen with a matte screen protector, but it's not. So I'd like to see a side by side if it actually looks and works very differently or if the "detailed tech" is just more or less some marketing propaganda and it just looks like a regular phone with a 5$ screen protector.

  • @starkiller7278
    @starkiller7278 4 місяці тому +103

    TCL reminds me of LG. They're doing something new, alot of smartphone manufacturers could learn from this. Yes, it may not be a priority, but it's still important what kind of screen your phone comes with. This TCL 40 is definitely a phone I'd consider getting as I do find myself reading for quite a long time on my phone.

  • @DoctorEyeHealth
    @DoctorEyeHealth 5 місяців тому +642

    I had the chance to try this out for a month and do a video collab with TCL to talk more about the science behind eye strain and what they built with this screen. I personally did not struggle with the brightness on the screen at all, even when outside. Despite the lower NITS. But so happy to see your review of it! I think the tech is brilliant from an eyestrain perspective and I hope to see some of the tech brought forward into other screens. Did you see the Apple update for screen distance? Makes me happy to see tech companies being conscious of how tech can impact the eyes.

    • @Cool-Spot
      @Cool-Spot 5 місяців тому +10

      I really hope the tech keeps improving because reducing the eye strain for millions of people would be great

    • @isaacsawka6524
      @isaacsawka6524 5 місяців тому +10

      Anyone mind keying me in on this apple update?

    • @der4rdi
      @der4rdi 5 місяців тому

      ​@@isaacsawka6524on iOS 17, iPhones and iPads equipped with Face ID sensors can use that to tell you when you're too close to the screen.

    • @Sathwik0
      @Sathwik0 5 місяців тому

      ​@@isaacsawka6524If you hold your phone too close to your face, it asks you in a blocking popup to move it away up to 12 inches.

    • @youtubeenjoyer194
      @youtubeenjoyer194 5 місяців тому

      @@isaacsawka6524 Settings > Screen Time > Screen Distance

  • @audoodle9963
    @audoodle9963 5 місяців тому +981

    honestly for $200 this phone is kind of tempting as a secondary option. I've been getting into downloading and having my own music collection and this phone has a headphone jack and expandable storage. I could see this making a great MP3 player.

    • @sahilsingh0929
      @sahilsingh0929 5 місяців тому +31

      That’s exactly what I was thinking

    • @borkwoof696
      @borkwoof696 5 місяців тому +137

      I want to have that kind of money where I can think about having a "secondary" phone.

    • @batmantheboss3260
      @batmantheboss3260 5 місяців тому

      @@borkwoof696 200 dollars

    • @shib5267
      @shib5267 5 місяців тому +33

      why would you care about an e-ink like display on an mp3 player? And if you were buying it for reading, you know what else is 200 dollars? an actual e-ink device

    • @PhenomRom
      @PhenomRom 5 місяців тому +77

      @@borkwoof696when you get your first job you’ll be there in no time

  • @almajdxperia
    @almajdxperia 4 місяці тому +23

    Props to TCL for bringing innovation to a boring era

    • @nepalidiy
      @nepalidiy 25 днів тому +1

      Yeah phone design are boring now peak was 2017

  • @janchrzciciel
    @janchrzciciel 4 місяці тому +45

    I remember having matte screen protectors as early as my Galaxy S3. This is a great idea!

  • @mamaharumi
    @mamaharumi 5 місяців тому +1619

    Beautiful. I absolutely love matte screens, yet matte screen protectors almost always suck.

    • @zndxt1970
      @zndxt1970 5 місяців тому +87

      U haven't enjoyed a glossy OLED tv then lmao!

    • @EpicUnicat
      @EpicUnicat 5 місяців тому +20

      Same for my xperia.. haven't found a good matte screen protector yet. Stuck with the fingerprint sun glare

    • @JogoatEdits
      @JogoatEdits 5 місяців тому +7

      u didnt watch the whole video lol he just uploaded

    • @mamaharumi
      @mamaharumi 5 місяців тому +81

      ​@@zndxt1970you're wrong, and that's a weird conclusion to come to

    • @abbasahmedlp
      @abbasahmedlp 5 місяців тому +1

      Couldn't agree more

  • @macmurfitt
    @macmurfitt 5 місяців тому +706

    I’ve always used matte screen protectors and one downside you forgot to mention is over time they do get considerably smoother. I know it takes a lot to get like that but the amount we touch our phones counts for a lot.

    • @olivierl2172
      @olivierl2172 5 місяців тому +66

      I don't know whether you can compare a screen protector with the actual screen in terms of durability.

    • @mackit
      @mackit 5 місяців тому +63

      @@olivierl2172I was thinking that too, this is textured glass not a plastic screen protector

    • @damienpoyo
      @damienpoyo 5 місяців тому +22

      @@olivierl2172 It's just a layer ontop of the screen, which is exactly what a screen protector does.

    • @Obvious_Furry
      @Obvious_Furry 5 місяців тому +28

      ​@@mackitmatte glass screen protectors do exist, ya know

    • @MB-jz3uu
      @MB-jz3uu 5 місяців тому +10

      @@mackit most screen protectors nowadays are glass screen protectors so the screen protector would be textured glass as well.

  • @davisdiercks
    @davisdiercks 4 місяці тому +6

    I agree I doubt I'd want something like that on my phone. BUT, I will say, I am absolutely in love with my paper-feel screen protector on my iPad. I use it mainly for digitally handwritten notes with the Apple pencil, looking at music charts on stage, etc, and that texture is a total game-changer.

  • @pattrriot
    @pattrriot 4 місяці тому +8

    hi, why other companies don't use these displays is also that this mat will wear out easily after a year of use, for example in games or using touch in one place, and the effect will be visible. imagine on a display that is all matte a few shiny peeled off spots...this is something that won't happen on a glossy display (plus you can use glass or film for protection as you also mentioned)

  • @doodskie999
    @doodskie999 4 місяці тому +388

    This is why I always use matte screen protectors.
    Less reflection, feels good to scroll and rejects fingerprints

    • @iidentifyMyselfAfemalepotato
      @iidentifyMyselfAfemalepotato 4 місяці тому +21

      Using 'em for 8 years now after a dear friend of mine suggested me those for good gaming. god I thank him to this day as rarely you'll find someone talking about matte protective glasses here in my city.

    • @unappropadope
      @unappropadope 4 місяці тому +12

      Any particular ones you recommend? I’ve got a lot of concussion patients with extended symptoms who struggle with eye strain but need screens to work/live; I’m curious if any of these could help that during recovery

    • @uthopia27
      @uthopia27 4 місяці тому +1

      Aren't matte just makes the screen darker so u need to brighten Ur display more ?

    • @doodskie999
      @doodskie999 4 місяці тому +10

      @@uthopia27 true. But on daylight, it absorbs more reflections which is more important for people like me who work on the field

    • @corbinpool5649
      @corbinpool5649 4 місяці тому

      @@unappropadope i have an IQ Shield on my phone & Steam Deck & i love it

  • @jm-alan
    @jm-alan 5 місяців тому +601

    I think it's chiefly because most (if not all) anti-glare coatings reduce image sharpness and color accuracy, by design; they literally have to scatter light, and it's difficult if not impossible to scatter incoming light without also scattering some of the outgoing light from the screen.
    Since every phone screen has been getting better and brighter for years, it would seem like a regression to start putting anti-glare filters on them from the factory, rather than letting the user choose whether they want that.

    • @walkingguy6409
      @walkingguy6409 5 місяців тому +1

      I think the best way to reduce their main problem is having the anti glare coating as close to the screen as possible

    • @theramennoodler7950
      @theramennoodler7950 5 місяців тому +11

      Yeah Fr that’s the main problem, I have a matte display on my laptop but doesn’t look that sharp even though it’s qhd, and colors ain’t nothing to special.

    • @ventilate4267
      @ventilate4267 5 місяців тому +5

      Not to mention that they're hard to clean

    • @plus8237
      @plus8237 5 місяців тому +12

      lol did you not watch the video ? he spends a good portion saying that.

    • @danebeee1
      @danebeee1 5 місяців тому

      Exactly this

  • @happyman6102
    @happyman6102 4 місяці тому +4

    The tiny little tidbit about the pain of producing videos of objects with reflective surfaces being mitigated by this tech was cool! So glad you included that.

  • @BloodScientist
    @BloodScientist 4 місяці тому +23

    Have been using matte screen protectors since earlier this year and it's a game changer. I love the feel. Love the minimal reflection.

    • @doujinflip
      @doujinflip 4 місяці тому +5

      Matte screen protectors are where it's at! I use my gadgets in outdoor and well-lit environments somewhat often, and it's nice not to get suddenly blinded because some random light source reflected perfectly into my face. And yeah there's something satisfying about sliding my fingers across that micro-pebbled texture, as opposed to the sometimes jerky feel of smooth glass. I wish they were more prevalent beyond Apple devices though.

  • @_iboji
    @_iboji 5 місяців тому +354

    I think you lowkey made the real value proposition of something like this and thats as a tablet! It makes a ton of sense! I'm not usually going to use it outside , the texture would be extremely helpful from a notetaking/writing perspective and for reading books/manga it would be the perfect marrying of the performance of a tablet with the display fidelity of an e-ink reader.

    • @MelonMusk068
      @MelonMusk068 4 місяці тому +22

      Yes their tablet actually costs the same as the phone, which is kinda nuts.

    • @dary_666
      @dary_666 4 місяці тому +4

      @@MelonMusk068 most companies handle their prices like that actually

    • @melissablick779
      @melissablick779 4 місяці тому +10

      I use one of those paper-feel screen protectors on my iPad Pro and it’s lovely. Mostly use the device for reading books/manga. Annotating academic papers with an Apple Pencil knock-off feels amazing as well, although I’m sure my pencil tips are wearing out faster. Sure, videos don’t look nearly as good, but I rarely use it for that.

    • @RecBuddha
      @RecBuddha 4 місяці тому +4

      I'm wondering how well this would work as a drawing tablet? My daughter is getting quite in to that and would be nice to give her a bigger thing to use than her phone, but not crazy expensive like an iPad. The paper like display makes me think maybe this could be good for drawing on and also for kindle book reading as well. Does the screen affect color accuracy and such though?

    • @_iboji
      @_iboji 4 місяці тому +4

      @@RecBuddha it definitely would so you probably couldn’t do production art but as a learning sketch book this would actually work very well depending on stylus support. I kinda want an artist to review the larger device for this reason

  • @jasonzuniga2587
    @jasonzuniga2587 5 місяців тому +150

    That's pretty sick. Would love to see a premium phone with this as an option. First thing I do with a phone is find a matte finish screen protector. Helps immensely with reflection when flying a drone.

    • @Leanzazzy
      @Leanzazzy 5 місяців тому +1

      As he said, there are many drawbacks, chief among them being brightness and sensitivity as well as contrast.

    • @michellecandis
      @michellecandis 4 місяці тому

      doesnt work

  • @AimanPsikologi
    @AimanPsikologi 4 місяці тому +2

    Just a different perspective from this video, great job and thank you on the quality of the caption writing used in this video. Something new I can see as compared to your previous videos :)

  • @ronalexander2577
    @ronalexander2577 4 місяці тому

    when you do a review like this on a budget phone. It really makes me feel your genuine passion for tech and new ideas. keep on keeping on.
    Thank you.

  • @Dirkvnh
    @Dirkvnh 5 місяців тому +196

    I’m rocking a €10,- matte glass screen protector on my iPhone for over a year now and it’s amazing. Like this TCL it has major benefits such as anti glare, truly fingerprint resistant and the smoothest feel when swiping. I was afraid this matte finish would cause a loss of display clarity but luckily that is not an issue. I’m not a fan of TCL in particular but I do love these matte finished displays.

    • @stevevlahos5469
      @stevevlahos5469 4 місяці тому +2

      Do you have a link for it.

    • @officialnoonon
      @officialnoonon 4 місяці тому

      Is the brand called Casper? Additionally I'd like to know, if this screen protector is available for other phones.

    • @ryderfromgta
      @ryderfromgta 4 місяці тому

      @@stevevlahos5469 I think you can find them just about anywhere. I'm in India using a $200 3 year old Redmi and I can just find the matte screen guards for it in local shops here. It has all the benefits that this comment listed, and the only downside for me is that it sacrifices a little bit of brightness, but it's not anything significant and I never feel the need for that extra brightness anyways, not to mention that I'm using an LCD display too. Overall, I'd say it is very much worth it. The no-fingerprints and smooth touch/swipe feel is really satisfying

    • @Dirkvnh
      @Dirkvnh 4 місяці тому

      @@officialnoonon The brand is Mobigear and they’re available for multiple devices and brands. I’m not familiar with Casper. Is that a good brand?

  • @SurenMOF1
    @SurenMOF1 5 місяців тому +473

    I think we can put a matte screen protector to have that same experience on our current devices. I have seen that in person on my friends device but that has a downside as well.

    • @Kivencito
      @Kivencito 5 місяців тому +39

      I've had it... All mate screen protectors Ive had, add some weird rainbowy effect. It's weird, I guess this doesn't have that.

    • @SurenMOF1
      @SurenMOF1 5 місяців тому +2

      @@Kivencito From what I have seen on the first look was the display quality gets a bit low with that protector on because of that non sticky pixelated texture. While using Instagram and UA-cam is definitely not a good experience. I would prefer a clear screen protector so that We can experience good quality amoled display these days

    • @Zeusssss307
      @Zeusssss307 5 місяців тому +10

      I had a matt finish screen guard but it made my display a little blurry

    • @SurenMOF1
      @SurenMOF1 5 місяців тому +5

      @@Zeusssss307 That texture is like that. That touch swipe feel is better it won't stick.

    • @Zeusssss307
      @Zeusssss307 5 місяців тому

      @@SurenMOF1The touch felt really smooth the main reason i got the screen card was for gaming so i could play without wearing any hand socks as my hands get sweaty but it turned out the display quality was wayy worse than I anticipated

  • @85bryanc
    @85bryanc 4 місяці тому +4

    I think this would be a great outside screen option for foldable phones! Practical on the outside media centric on the inside.

  • @DrivenKeys
    @DrivenKeys 4 місяці тому +3

    An excellent compromise would be the etched glass on the laminated screens of tablet monitors, such as those made by Huion. It's less effective than tradtional anti-glare coatings on monitors, but feels great without nearly as much visual compromises seen here.

  • @Jj82op
    @Jj82op 5 місяців тому +225

    The tablet version they have with this would probably be more popular, as you said, very close to an e-ink display but with other benefits from a tradicional tablet. As long as the hardware isn't too low spec.

    • @Isaac-eh6uu
      @Isaac-eh6uu 5 місяців тому +6

      Yeah a kindle paperwhite but a android table a direct competitor to Kindles for similar price point.

    • @jkarra2334
      @jkarra2334 5 місяців тому +15

      Watching this video with My 11" TCL nxtpaper matt display tablet...

    • @SencereTV
      @SencereTV 5 місяців тому

      ​@@jkarra2334how do you like it? I'm thinking about getting it

    • @aniruddhapaturkar1884
      @aniruddhapaturkar1884 5 місяців тому +6

      Yes I second that. Tablet version makes a lot of sense for avid readers!

    • @grissee
      @grissee 5 місяців тому +2

      the batterly life probably suck tho, unless you're buying e-reader just to relieve eye strain, not for the battery life

  • @robert.mills5
    @robert.mills5 5 місяців тому +94

    This would be a dream to me, I've used matte screen protectors for years now because of my light sensitivity. Wish more manufacturers made this an option

    • @Jezee213
      @Jezee213 4 місяці тому

      Yea a few years ago I ordered a matte screen protector for my iPhone XR and I loved it!

    • @GAMINGOBRIEN69
      @GAMINGOBRIEN69 4 місяці тому

      Get this phone lol

  • @that_dude_rolo
    @that_dude_rolo 4 місяці тому +4

    First thing I thought of after seeing that screen was the old Zagg plastic film screen protectors. Ones you had ro use a bit of water to apply. They always had that look after applying them. Always used them back then. I definitely would like to see these kinds of screens on more phones, as you said with OLED displays.

  • @akarshpaliwal4182
    @akarshpaliwal4182 22 дні тому

    this is very much needed in newer smartphone as screen time is increasing so the strain on eyes and this would really helpful. Hope other brands also adopt this.

  • @nmeister67
    @nmeister67 4 місяці тому +396

    Reminds me of the matt screen protectors i used to put on my phones about 8 years ago. Although perhapps not exactly the same, the results were very simmilar to whats being described here.

    • @noxharsha
      @noxharsha 4 місяці тому +21

      They the same thing

    • @fystry
      @fystry 4 місяці тому +7

      I actually use a matte screen protector.
      That thing feels just like the back of any textured Samsung or IPhone glass.
      I does have a small impact on the sharpness but all in one it feels so much better imo

    • @chilivelife2581
      @chilivelife2581 4 місяці тому +20

      Sharpness suffers a lot, along with brightness

    • @robinisathakur
      @robinisathakur 4 місяці тому +14

      “We’re excited to share with you the iPhone 16 pro with nano textured glass…”

    • @kmb_jr
      @kmb_jr 4 місяці тому +3

      Exactly lmao.... nothing special

  • @leonorou7020
    @leonorou7020 5 місяців тому +569

    I am actually very interested in this type of screen! I have matt displays everywhere I can.
    Are there maybe screenprotectors that have this look and feel? Then I could just add it to a regular smartphone

    • @lazyox
      @lazyox 4 місяці тому +41

      Paperlike screen protectors. but they usualy made for tablets with pens. so maybe getting one for a tablet and cutting it in shape would work

    • @sedativelimit
      @sedativelimit 4 місяці тому +48

      Well I've been using matte screen protectors, not a good experience tho, especially sometimes the texture can ruin how sharp media content appears on the screen

    • @roflkopter
      @roflkopter 4 місяці тому +22

      i have a matt screen protector on my phone, it came with it from back market. insane improvement compared to regular screens, everytime i hold a friends phone i have to realize again that reflections even exist lol

    • @robertbalmer5654
      @robertbalmer5654 4 місяці тому

      @leonorou7020 FLOLAB makes the best matte screen protectors that give this paper-like effect to regular smartphones, I’ve only ever tried it on iPhone but I believe they also offer it for android phones as well

    • @marcellkovacs5452
      @marcellkovacs5452 4 місяці тому +4

      Absolutely, back in my screen protector days I always had matte ones.

  • @pongoni7586
    @pongoni7586 4 місяці тому +66

    I used to put matte screen protectors on my phones. but i hate it cuz it decreases image sharpness dramatically. even if your screen resolution is at its highest, images would still look soft and some details are missing

    • @nottoday3878
      @nottoday3878 4 місяці тому

      Agree, also it helps a lot when gaming

    • @wrth
      @wrth 4 місяці тому +3

      Also lose contrast. Hate it when trying to watch HDR content.

    • @adendragon705
      @adendragon705 4 місяці тому

      The only one I've seen that doesn't hurt sharpness as much is the magglass for iPhone. The android version of the same sucks.

    • @belphegor_tv
      @belphegor_tv 4 місяці тому

      They also destroy stylus nibs

  • @iamsmashy
    @iamsmashy 4 місяці тому +1

    I use a matte screen protector on my iPad Air as a student because it makes it a lot easier to write on with the Apple Pencil. The display quality does suffer like you said because the light is getting diffused through the protector, but I enjoy writing on it much more, so it’s worth it.

  • @Rickiye
    @Rickiye 5 місяців тому +244

    I think TCL's main problem was that many people don't know about this type of phone & tablet, but now after your vid I'm sure they'll sell a bit more. I'm guessing they'd considered most of the downsides you mentioned that's why it's priced relatively low at $200 and has a large battery as it would work great as a secondary device esp. for long reading, actually planning to get one or the tablet sometime.
    What TCL can do is adapt the next versions to the LTPO screens that have higher nits for outdoor reading and variable refresh rate for battery savings.
    The selfie camera upgrade won't really matter as I don't think people are buying these for social media creation.

    • @jvm-tv
      @jvm-tv 4 місяці тому +2

      I'm going to buy the tablet for reading. It's awesome

    • @CosmicExplorerX
      @CosmicExplorerX 4 місяці тому

      Why is this comment so long?

    • @yashsarda2263
      @yashsarda2263 4 місяці тому

      You could have just read it instead of replying that@@CosmicExplorerX

    • @ringgame
      @ringgame 4 місяці тому +3

      @@CosmicExplorerXit’s called elaboration

    • @jvm-tv
      @jvm-tv 4 місяці тому +2

      @@CosmicExplorerX way over your attention span ha?

  • @zukaro
    @zukaro 4 місяці тому +116

    The first thing I noticed was the lack of glare. Would love to have more phones with an anti-glare coating or whatever (more laptops too; my desktop monitors are the only displays I have that don't have any glare).

    • @thomgizziz
      @thomgizziz 4 місяці тому +13

      Coatings and textured glass wear down and much faster than you'd think. It is just a better idea to get a matte screen protector because when it wears down you can just replace it.

    • @ChiliM4n
      @ChiliM4n 4 місяці тому +5

      Just buy a matte screen protector for a couple dollars. They do a good job.

    • @paul_ko
      @paul_ko 4 місяці тому +4

      @@thomgizziz Textured (etched) glass won't wear down, unless your fingers are made of a material harder than glass lol

    • @spike5499
      @spike5499 4 місяці тому +2

      no that ruins the color

    • @LordZarano
      @LordZarano 4 місяці тому

      Why don't they have an anti-reflective coating like for glasses (the kind that you wear)?
      Just a very dim green reflection

  • @clay3544
    @clay3544 4 місяці тому

    I really like that flat look. It was the first thing I noticed as you held the phone up.

  • @ScientificZoom
    @ScientificZoom 4 місяці тому

    how he finds features such as mentioned in this video is just amazing

  • @tejslm
    @tejslm 4 місяці тому +307

    Last year, I got a matte screen protector installed which pretty much does the same. But all those cons you mentioned are so evident that within a few days, I went to the shop, had it removed and installed a normal screen protector.

    • @BahaaBarakat
      @BahaaBarakat 4 місяці тому +42

      They feel great to use but the colors become so washed out

    • @tejslm
      @tejslm 4 місяці тому +5

      @@BahaaBarakat exactly

    • @Lucy_595
      @Lucy_595 4 місяці тому +5

      I am still using one for more than a year and it's perfect for me. In fact now the matte finish has almost degraded to become smooth and I might get a fresh one.

    • @tejslm
      @tejslm 4 місяці тому +1

      @@Lucy_595 I wish i could use that. But my phone is only 450 nits, so with that protector it gets pretty dull outdoors.

    • @stevenswall
      @stevenswall 4 місяці тому

      They don't need more layers... And it doesn't have to be blurry. Etch the layer of glass already there down to 1/10th of a pixel "resolution."
      This is just a low end phone. All screens should be either this or transflective LCDs on pro phones. Or a screen on the front and back.

  • @Fred-ci8ts
    @Fred-ci8ts 5 місяців тому +112

    This reminds me of the matte protection glass back in the iPhone 4 days. It was pretty much the same as you described this screen but it was a bit pixel-ish.

  • @captRhay
    @captRhay 4 місяці тому +1

    i would usually put in a matte screen protector for some of these features. yes i lost a lot of sharpness but it feels great to the touch

  • @Nardio
    @Nardio 3 місяці тому +1

    I bought the "paper" tablet they make thanks to this review and I friggin love it. Thanks for the review.

  • @edburdo
    @edburdo 4 місяці тому +31

    I have one of those "paper like" screen protectors on my iPad. I love it. It cuts some of the reflection/glare, and feels more like writing on paper (which is why I used it). Interesting idea on a phone.

  • @joonasmansikka2482
    @joonasmansikka2482 5 місяців тому +4

    6:45 ah Zenfone, a truly awesome flip camera that still holds up to date almost 5 years since its release.

  • @samnayakawadi
    @samnayakawadi 4 місяці тому

    The way of explaining is just awesome ❤

  • @waldolemmer
    @waldolemmer 4 місяці тому

    Man, I love it when you get to the point halfway through the video

  • @ashc151
    @ashc151 5 місяців тому +185

    I would have loved to see a comparison between this phone's matte display and the matte display option that is available on the XDR Display.

    • @jesuspuhwillreturn
      @jesuspuhwillreturn 5 місяців тому +2

      TCL is the smartphone manufacturer in Indian subcontinent…. So maybe a mixture of all contract smartphones. A true replicaaaaaaa😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂

    • @GameOver-nm2us
      @GameOver-nm2us 5 місяців тому +34

      @@jesuspuhwillreturn are you having a stroke my friend

    • @clickbaitpro
      @clickbaitpro 5 місяців тому

      @@jesuspuhwillreturn wtf?

    • @drakthorianakatzaphquiel455
      @drakthorianakatzaphquiel455 4 місяці тому

      ​@@GameOver-nm2usHe is just indian..... Seriously.... Look at the profile pic.

  • @georgestrat8049
    @georgestrat8049 5 місяців тому +135

    Agreed with most of what you said. Two things I would like to mention: it is a bit more than niche, especially for people who do not do a lot of social media or text while walking and second and most importantly for me: matte display = no fingerprints!! Something I have the feeling you also like in a product

    • @KrissFliss
      @KrissFliss 5 місяців тому

      Also better battery life when the screen is not as brigth!

    • @Gonzka_
      @Gonzka_ 5 місяців тому +11

      ​@@KrissFlissnot really. The LCD is bright but the additional layers just block some of the light so it appears dimmer

    • @oaax20
      @oaax20 5 місяців тому

      Put matte screen protector, it is better than preinstalled

    • @jaroslavmrazek5752
      @jaroslavmrazek5752 5 місяців тому +2

      @@KrissFliss Its the other way around actually. When you put a matte finish on any display you slightly decrease the percieved brightness thus you need to increase your brightness to have the same level as a glossy one.

  • @MutinAntoine
    @MutinAntoine 4 місяці тому

    Love this idea! So weird we never seen it before 🤔 also I love the warm studio light you used! Looks so sick 🔥

  • @alexnp41
    @alexnp41 4 місяці тому +2

    Thats why i always use a mate screen-protector! I love the aesthetics and i know the colors are a little bit washed out with a 2nd layer bc of the protector, but i do think its nuts!!

  • @P0PE_F0X
    @P0PE_F0X 5 місяців тому +102

    The Steam Deck OLED has an option for a similar display and it looks gorgeous still. Black levels aren’t as deep due to having to scatter the light, but I’d rather see what I’m playing then readjust because I can’t see because of the glare. You mentioned that having a more premium display may help, and it does for sure. The OLED on the SD solved a lot of the issues that you have with this phone. Honestly any high end phone should have an etched screen option, it’s so clutch when there’s a lot of light near you.

    • @musclecargarage2875
      @musclecargarage2875 5 місяців тому

      Our Pakistani phone “Benjort 13 Turbo Max’’ has it as well

    • @PinkAgaricus
      @PinkAgaricus 5 місяців тому

      I wonder how much more expensive (for independent repair shops, especially those that are in areas with other forms of the Dollar [CAD/AUD/NZD/etc]) those OLED displays would be to replace if or when a user breaks the screen, if other manufacturers started using it. "Glass is glass, and glass breaks" - JerryRigEverything (regardless of the display tech)
      Since a replacement for a Samsung phone display is $400(CAD)+. I feel like at the first repair most will go back to a standard glary display (because of price), I think it's just cheaper to have devices (especially phones and tablets) like this as backup devices rather than a daily driver, since it (the faux e-ink paper display [normal SuperAMOLED/OLED/LCD display, but frosted and including a hardware based blue light filter]) at this point is somewhat new.

    • @ericwright8592
      @ericwright8592 5 місяців тому

      Hmmm interesting, you think the anti-glare coating on the premium steam deck is worth it? IIRC Dave2D said it hurt image quality too much in his opinion. I wish I could see it in person to decide

    • @P0PE_F0X
      @P0PE_F0X 5 місяців тому

      @@ericwright8592 Dave 2D I feel like is heavily exaggerating imo. It looks fine especially in a dark room at night. At night both versions are basically identical. In the light there is a difference in the black levels, but the benefit is you can see your screen a lot more then before. More than worth it.

  • @Dariddda
    @Dariddda 5 місяців тому +26

    You can get screenprotectors for any kind of phone that does the same thing... that gives an anti-reflective matte look on your display that also protects the glass from scratches. I have this on my s22u and it works perfectly fine.

  • @farrukhkamal2315
    @farrukhkamal2315 4 місяці тому

    This very interesting. I have had pc monitors like this for years, but for some reason having the same on a phone never occurred to me.
    Now, I WANT this

  • @shadow51090
    @shadow51090 4 місяці тому +8

    So Marques could you do a comparison to this phone and a modern flagship with a matte screen protector applied? I understand the goal for TCL is to make a screen that's less intense, but could the same be achieved with a screen protector while retaining the benefits of a mid-tier or flagship phone?

  • @Mr3picly
    @Mr3picly 5 місяців тому +142

    this was such a gem of a review - we need the big players to adopt this tech in some way

    • @f.i.b3027
      @f.i.b3027 5 місяців тому +2

      Most people aren't looking for these display types though

    • @RyanxDunn
      @RyanxDunn 5 місяців тому

      ​​@@f.i.b3027I guess the option being more accessible would be nice though

    • @svs2136
      @svs2136 5 місяців тому +18

      Or just slap on a matte screen protector on your phone, it behaves exactly the same as the tcl described in this video - i bet thats pretty much what tcl did too. Personally i hate it

    • @Paniekzaaiertje
      @Paniekzaaiertje 5 місяців тому

      No, those displays suck. It's like looking through foggy glasses.

    • @gaysex438
      @gaysex438 5 місяців тому +1

      Did you not watch the entire other half of the video of MKBHD explaining the downsides??? Bot

  • @r.g7261
    @r.g7261 4 місяці тому +4

    I can actually see a great market for this (especially the tablet version) as people would certainly love an e-ink display that has the ability to just turn into a normal Android Tablet whenever they want to.
    It doesn't have the best specs because it doesn't need the best specs and that's honestly kinda smart. Cuz people who will buy this are basically just expecting a screen that they can read books off of and for that it has more than enough power inside. And lower specs = Lower price obv :)
    Imo I would probably love to try a product like this in the future myself (when I actually get the opportunity to do so ofc)

  • @dev44634
    @dev44634 4 місяці тому

    I get the same effect from an ArmorSuit Anti-Glare Matte Film Screen Protector on my Galaxy S23 Ultra. I highly recommend it!
    -The little bit of glare that still appears on the ArmorSuit Matte Film is the same as the phone in the video.
    -The issue of brightness on the TCL 40 NXTPAPER, as guessed in the video, is solved by the better screen on the S23 Ultra, as its peak brightness is 1200 or 1750 nits, depending on your display settings.
    -My S-Pen works with no issues at all too, so I'm a bit confused why that's a surprise to some. Writing on it is really smooth too. I actually prefer the matte over the actual screen or a gloss screen protector.
    -What will a replacement screen cost on this phone? For comparison, the ArmorSuit Matte that I got came in a 2-pack for $12.74. So, it only costs me $6.37 each time I mess up a screen protector.
    I get that the phone in the video is only $200, but their "paper display" is pretty much the same experience as getting an ArmorSuit Matte Screen Protector for any other phone. 🤷‍♂

  • @ABD5667
    @ABD5667 4 місяці тому +1

    There are screen protectors that create a similar effect. Also there used to be phones with similar screens way back with some of the earlier touch screens

  • @cocopuffz604
    @cocopuffz604 5 місяців тому +8

    I've been looking at this one for a while. I'm tempted by the e-reader / Tablet version. There's also the Onyx Boox Palma which takes this idea and puts a real e-ink display with higher refresh rate...

  • @TheSpacemanSal
    @TheSpacemanSal 5 місяців тому +25

    I would absolutely checkout a 9h glass screen protector with this finish though. Have an option to apply it to your device for like $15 or so, and I think it would find a big enough following.

    • @MrNicePotato
      @MrNicePotato 4 місяці тому

      I thought it's already been a thing since a few years ago. Some of my friends still use matt screen protectors today.

  • @bhume7535
    @bhume7535 3 місяці тому +1

    For those who were interested in this the TCL 50 Nxtpaper is getting a US releasel. It was just announced.

  • @leearnie
    @leearnie 4 місяці тому +1

    I might buy the tcl nextpaper 11 tablet. Thanks for mentioning that one

  • @JoaoPCarvalhinho
    @JoaoPCarvalhinho 4 місяці тому +33

    I would really love to see this tech on a flagship. Actually I was looking for this here in PT for the last few days in worten or fnac stores, but they don't have it available.
    I would buy this, but buy9ing an entry phone with bad photography hardware kills it for me.
    Even so, this looks like a first effort... and a very good one at it. I loved that transition effect to papper mode... really cool one!

    • @mindphaser2k8
      @mindphaser2k8 4 місяці тому +2

      Just buy a cheap matte screen protector.

    • @boam2943
      @boam2943 Місяць тому

      They are available right now. I have been looking (from time to time) for it to show up in stores to check it live and take my S-Pen to test and see if it is compatible. Their T-Pen seems to require charging. I am a little concerned about the CPU (which is from 2017) and updates past their announced support of 2025.

  • @PrinsessePeach
    @PrinsessePeach 5 місяців тому +4

    I used a screen protector for an iPad Air 3 that had many of these features, it was awesome to use with the Apple Pencil when drawing. There probably is a phone version of that type of screen protector.

  • @ChristopherLono
    @ChristopherLono 4 місяці тому +1

    I’m really interested in nextpaper, because this tech is a great thing and I wish it was used more often. It would be a great secondary display in a tablet (maybe as a folio cover that you could connect).

  • @CMDrive
    @CMDrive 4 місяці тому

    Yep, pretty much what I've been doing in recent years with my phones. I just put matte hydrogel screen protector. It's shielding your screen, paper-like touch, and don't strain your eyes.

  • @Stncedr1ge
    @Stncedr1ge 5 місяців тому +3

    I absolutely love matte screen protectors. Have one on my 13 pro max it does make it look less sharp but I prefer the more flat look it suits iOS so good. Only downside is at night it looks like a flash light at full Brightness and they cost more but rather a matte then normal or stupid privacy that makes your screen 20% darker.

  • @Fluffehmann
    @Fluffehmann 4 місяці тому +5

    I always get a matte finish screen protector for my phone. I'd love to see this catch on!

  • @tubester358
    @tubester358 4 місяці тому

    well, compared to matte (or so-called anti-fingerprint) screen protectors, with a baked in matte display the screen can be calibrated and optimized for that type of screen instead of having to be an additional layer to a display that isn't calibrated for it, it would probably be higher quality/durability (especially if higher end devices try to utilize it), and it might be possibly to have settings to transition between limited levels of matte/textured or smooth through software (like increasing sharpness by distorting the output to counter the effects of the display's texture).
    I'd love to see more devices try this, especially for tablets

  • @andrewf6625
    @andrewf6625 4 місяці тому +2

    I just discovered that they sell matte screen protectors a few months ago and they are actually really nice. I’d love to see how it would look if it was executed properly.

  • @murroybeverley
    @murroybeverley 5 місяців тому +3

    Love seeing those subtle smartphone innovations in these peak smartphone era. Would love to see the bigger companies at least give it as an optional upgrade perhaps

  • @stefanrhys44
    @stefanrhys44 5 місяців тому +12

    This reminds of a time when I used to buy matte screen protectors to cut reflections and for the soft touch feel. Definitely would like to see this get adopted on mainstream flagships

  • @sherlockowiec1693
    @sherlockowiec1693 4 місяці тому +5

    Holy shit, I need that for my tablet. Reading comics with this would be AWESOME!

  • @JustasG
    @JustasG 4 місяці тому

    Useful for those who are recording phone's screen from outside 😊 sometimes I am showing my phone screen in my vlogs, I will check do I have many reflections. If yes, then worth having this phone just for vloging

  • @Jayden-lr2mm
    @Jayden-lr2mm 5 місяців тому +49

    They actually also sell anti reflective screen protectors, might pick those up

    • @StonedGossard_
      @StonedGossard_ 5 місяців тому +1

      let me know if you find a decent brand

    • @Jayden-lr2mm
      @Jayden-lr2mm 5 місяців тому +2

      @@StonedGossard_ sure :)

  • @Allineus
    @Allineus 4 місяці тому +3

    This is gonna bring up the tactile experience for me to a whole new level. Hopefully I can spot one locally if ever those phones get to market here.

  • @yo.adrian
    @yo.adrian 4 місяці тому +1

    Four of my phones I have in rotation of use have a matte screen protector and i love it. Only my Samsung Galaxy Fold 4 doesn't have one.
    Even two of my laptops have a matte screen protector. I love it.

  • @whyonearth
    @whyonearth 4 місяці тому

    I use a matte scratch guard instead of a tempered glass screen protector on my Pixel and I'm so happy I found one.

  • @HeisenbergFam
    @HeisenbergFam 5 місяців тому +3

    Marques watching Marques on a phone is truly the M&M crossover we all needed

  • @Battery-Powered
    @Battery-Powered 5 місяців тому +106

    I always get matte finished screen protectors, but somehow again gets finger prints. Hopefully this type of display is better than the screen protectors

    • @zest01
      @zest01 5 місяців тому +16

      Matte finish gets worn out from touches.

    • @Mr.Marbles
      @Mr.Marbles 5 місяців тому +8

      @@zest01 just scrub it with steel wool lmao

    • @robertclarkguitar
      @robertclarkguitar 5 місяців тому +5

      ​@@Mr.Marblesyeah and bring it back to the nice fine sheen. Lmao ❤

    • @Battery-Powered
      @Battery-Powered 5 місяців тому +1

      @@Mr.Marbles 😂

    • @yoppindia
      @yoppindia 5 місяців тому +1

      its easier to change screen protector than actual screen, so stick to screen protector, best of both world.

  • @alrightride
    @alrightride Місяць тому

    Thank you for making this video!! I think this technology is really gonna take off. I hope you don't stop covering the evolution of this technology.

  • @besnikrrustemi
    @besnikrrustemi 4 місяці тому

    Thanks Marques, thanks to you and this video, i am sure we will see someone implement this tech on 2024/5 smartphones.

  • @GriffXJ
    @GriffXJ 5 місяців тому +22

    I wonder how this screen will hold up. My car had a matte screen, and from touching and swiping the same areas over and over again, it actually polished these areas and they became shiny. I'm sure this phone will have the same issue after a year of use.

    • @LarryLopez91
      @LarryLopez91 5 місяців тому

      Was the screen in your car made of glass or plastic?

    • @amaljoe367
      @amaljoe367 5 місяців тому +1

      That's because most old cars have resistive touch screens - the top layer will mostly be plastic instead of glass.

    • @GriffXJ
      @GriffXJ 5 місяців тому

      @@amaljoe367 it was capacitive, didn't work with gloves, but as someone else said it probably had a plastic film over top.

    • @GriffXJ
      @GriffXJ 5 місяців тому

      @@LarryLopez91 now that you mention it, there was probably a plastic film over top of the screen to reduce glare.

  • @pneumonoultramicroscopicsi4065
    @pneumonoultramicroscopicsi4065 5 місяців тому +4

    you can use a matte screen protector and get the same effect and have the option to go back to the glossy display by removing the screen protector because the matte finish diminishes brightness and it also change the color

    • @onemorechris
      @onemorechris 4 місяці тому

      exactly this. if anyone really wanted this beyond a niche, there would be a lot more screen protectors offering a feel very similar to this

  • @NoConstra1nt
    @NoConstra1nt 4 місяці тому

    There is mat screen protectors that do a similar thing. It is very old tech, back in the 90s computer monitors in offices used to have and extra layer which you can remove and eases the blue light. Apart from being matt they tend to have some kind of a tint that reduces the blue light

  • @dbsagacious
    @dbsagacious 4 місяці тому +2

    I've been using matte screen protectors on my phone for years. People always comment how cool it is when they use my phone. Blows my mind that it took this long for someone to put it in a phone standard

  • @RafaRallo
    @RafaRallo 4 місяці тому +3

    I have a matte screen protector on my iPhone 12, and it kinda does the same thing! Of course, there are no software modifications, but the brightness is better than the TCL, the smooth feeling is there and 0 reflections and fingerprints, which is awesome. But it really does impact on visual clarity, contrast and sharpness, so I totally get it why it isn’t for everyone.

    • @Lucia-io3dn
      @Lucia-io3dn 2 місяці тому

      Doesn’t it drain the battery?

    • @RafaRallo
      @RafaRallo 2 місяці тому

      @@Lucia-io3dn not at all, the only impact is on the sharpness and contrast of the display, as it's a piece of transparent plastic film in front of it. on direct sunlight is kinda hard to see something, but other than that, it's very worth it in my opinion

  • @saimantickbhadra
    @saimantickbhadra 5 місяців тому +3

    A matte screen protector can give similar results to the flagships out there with the soft touch feel and cutting out the reflections. I'm rocking one on my OnePlus 7 pro but the brightness and the sharpness of a QHD display is reduced drastically.
    Will there be a future tech where a matte screen can achieve the similar sharpness of a glass screen, considering it is actually refracting the light that's hitting the screen through the textured layer?

  • @KhakThui
    @KhakThui 4 місяці тому

    I'm currently using a matte screen protector on my Galaxy S22 and boy does it do wonders for me. Outdoor visibility, ease of use, typing, overall feel of the screen all improved because of it

  • @talhatariqyuluqatdis
    @talhatariqyuluqatdis 4 місяці тому +3

    That is an amazing display. I hope it comes to other technologies.
    E-ink is *awesome* for the health.

  • @williampamblanco
    @williampamblanco 5 місяців тому +5

    I would love to try this screen on the tablet! Would probably work great for comics and magazines if the sharpness issue doesn't hinder it too much.

    • @gantenbeinable
      @gantenbeinable 4 місяці тому

      Check aut the Huawei MatePad 11 PaperMatte Edition

  • @mike_reves
    @mike_reves 5 місяців тому +10

    I would buy one (if I wasnt on Verizon) I read a lot off of my phone and so losing that contrast/sharpness for less eye strain wouldn't bother me one bit. I do love that paper feel screen too! I have a paper feel screen protector on my old Z Flip 3.

  • @zinwn_kun9053
    @zinwn_kun9053 4 місяці тому

    My first phone ever was a little Sony Xperia with a matte screen. I can't say I missed the matte display. If we ever achieve a color e-ink display with amazing resolution then I'm all for it

  • @josejohnhalindogo8336
    @josejohnhalindogo8336 4 місяці тому

    I've been using this from a cheap hydrogel screen protector I got from KiKuu since my note10+ and now on my s22Ultra. I've been using hydrogel screen protectors, and they get creases when you use an SPen on them. But this one gets zero creases. And super soft and pleasing in the eye

  • @Sembazuru
    @Sembazuru 5 місяців тому +29

    I wonder how well the tablet version of that TCL screen would work for (the super small niche market of) digital sheet music for choruses and other ensemble performers.

  • @depro9
    @depro9 5 місяців тому +16

    🤔 two sided displays on a phone?

  • @ScipioHun
    @ScipioHun 4 місяці тому

    Very informative video! I learned something. Thank you! :)

  • @washburn9999
    @washburn9999 4 місяці тому

    thanks for the shout out to maplewood, nj....lol i believe you are from maplewood....i've been here for a million years...yes i'm that old...big fan of yours...keep up the good work...

  • @vyshnavraj9426
    @vyshnavraj9426 4 місяці тому +11

    This seems extremely similar to what would happen if you put on a "matte screen protector" they cost like 2 pounds. All visual changes he described is exactly what i had when i used one, eventually went to a regular one due to the reduced sharpness
    Maybe give a quick compare of the 2 ?

  • @disasterartiest671
    @disasterartiest671 5 місяців тому +10

    I have had my POCO X3 for 3 years now, and since the day I got it, I've been using Matte Screen Protectors on it, and boy oh boy is it a beautiful experience. My brother has the same phone and uses a normal Tempered Glass Protector, but if I compare our phones, mine always looks better. It's actually significantly cheaper too, than a tempered glass. it does offer almost the same protection, if not better. I have dropped my phone face-first on the ground from my hands, on my own height, A LOT of times. And it has never cracked. All in all, it's a beautiful experience. At least for me.

  • @annekedebruyn7797
    @annekedebruyn7797 4 місяці тому

    Reminds me of the moving painting effects in Universal Studios Harry Potter rides.
    They used filters in front of an LCD panel too.

  • @KurtKloetentreter
    @KurtKloetentreter 4 місяці тому

    That split second frame showing a Calvin and Hobbes comic on the kindle made me smile very much