YOU are the person I’ve been waiting for…at least 1 if not 2 years now! During that time, realizing that SUMMIT (or PEAK, nearly) is the most gorgeous synth I’ve ever heard (and I’ve owned em all-no, I don’t mean CS 80 and Schmidt ALL, but a shameful, decadent collection. I decided that it would be Crazy to buy a PEAK instead of a preowned Summit. I’m not a live performer-sometimes I pretend. So recording in home studio. I believes there IS MORE than simply 2 PEAKS to SUMMIT. You’ve lived with Summit now. Does the Synergistic Aspect of Summit, those features, amount to important functionality differences in your mind ? Like, you wouldn’t never trade Summit for 2 PEAKS and all the free cabling you need to polychain them, were the dollars EVEN and the 2 peaks were brand new? Have you had moments when you doubted whether or not you gained that much ? I guess l, bottom line, part of me thinks I should just buy a PEAK and not be a pig… Thanks! Mark
@@watchaddicts1213 Buy the Summit! even on paper the Summit is more than two Peaks (extra split filter modes, and the dedicated FM knobs alone save you up to 9 mod slots compared to on the Peak, audio input, keyboard, one touch split/dual/layer multi switching), the split and layer implementation is great, two instances of the same great FX - though you do lose the ability to run the FX purely 100% wet (seemingly due to hardware design oversight)
Me too. 1600 from focusrite when they were quite new still. Worth the read of my message BTW... Read on... The first summit cutoff knob was faulty and had a clear dead spot. Focusrite went thru it all with me and offered a swap replacement... For a new one! However. I had a mad moment. I decided at the time I had too much crap so they agreed instead to let me have a peak. I thought "I'll be OK with that I'm sure I've got x and y other synths ". But in the end I never used it much and started to let GAS make me think about alternatives... One day though... I realised how great the summit was. How I was proud of it's awesome looks too... And I saw one for 1100 gbp. I decided I'd buy it and maybe sell peak to cover the gap. Just as I was about to go and see it.. He sold it to a mate of his. I was so annoyed. I mean I got why you'd do it if a good mate wanted it etc and he did text me to apologise hugely. I made him feel as good as I could. Stuck then I thought... Ah flip I'll ask focusrite if they've another refurb. Got chatting. Bearing in mind I'd had the peak a good year by now. Sod it. "Guys I don't suppose seeing as what's just happened that you're feeling sorry for me pretty please..." Few days later. Door swap delivery. BRAND NEW SUMMIT. Peak back to focusrite Focusrite are legends. Absolute legends.
Thanks for the Peak videos. I'm a fellow owner and far from a synthesiser expert so any first hand info I can get from other users is super-useful. Have been scouring UA-cam for Peak content but not so easy to find due to the algorithm... Found your channel via a Reddit comment. Much appreciated.
My summit is hands down my favorite synth I've ever had. I will never sell it. If something happened to it, I'd get another one. I recently got a hydrasynth explorer, and while I like it a lot, it doesn't come anywhere remotely close to sounding as good. Yes, it's technically "more powerful" but, the peak and summit just straight up sounds fucking good at all times. Hell, even a basic saw way filter sweep with just a taste of the on-board effects sounds incredible. Also, you're correct, the effects are better than any other synth I've ever heard. I would buy an effects unit with just those effects as a pedal if it was available.
Hydrasynth turned me off because of all the menu diving. Peak feels a lot more hands-on analog. I already have Pigment and other capable soft synths for digital. Its a lot easier for me because of the big-screen editing.
@@Skylabz604that weird I owned the hydra but it’s not very menu divy . It probably has one of the best UI for sound editing out of any synth in the market. I ended up selling cuz I didn’t really love the sounds .
@@mastermachetier5594 not very menu deep but it still requires a lot of switching. On peak you have access to the main LFO and envelopes right on the board.
@@Jason75913 I agree with you in general, but the Peak/Summit is something special. I've got a room full of effects pedals/boxes and the Summit has something that none of the others do in terms of flavour.
I've had... Super 6. Take 5. Ob6. Sub 37. I kept the summit. I know it's personal but I do feel it is just a fab all rounder and it was my first proper synth in lockdown. That and my digitone. Just something about em
@@quantummonastery IKR. One of my modular obsessed mates just got one after years of thinking about it and is all... Why the hell didn't I do this before?! Honestly. When results are this easy and beautiful I feel comfortable in ditching much of the modular I bought personally. Currently I have it set up with my nord stage 4 and it's an awesome combo for jamming
Most people who use it use it for ambient background types of sounds. I want near naked init type of patches and just tweak them in where they could be used chromatically. I know this synth is capable of giving me what I want just need to dedicate the time to it and get quick on the draw.
I've been saying in my head i wish it has an effects insert! The summit does have an external in you can run through the effects but im not aware of a way i could use it as an insert. As in run the synth pre effects into pedals and then into the on board effects
I think it is the best reverb in a synth below $5k easily. I say that since the moog one has eventide stuff but the price is not realistic at all either !
Do you have/ or have you owned any other highly praised synths? I own a Prophet 5 and a MiniFreak right now. I’m contemplating how well would a Peak fit in my setup.
Good evening Yuki. Thanks so much for your awesome music 🎶. This sounds amazing 👏 🎶. I hope everything is going well in Your world 🌎. Mark Bensette Aux Bois 🇨🇦.
I bought one used, which is on it´s way right now. This video is intensifying my hype and makes me ordering a decksaver RIGHT FUCKING NOW. And there isn´t even a bathroom above me.
I bought a peak for my live setup used for a real great price. Having the wavetable option makes it a forever synth. It’s in my studio setup right now since I just got it. I love how easy it is to change out presets and save them as well.
Overlooked and underrated synth to be sure. One can be had in good condition for under $1k while a Summit is $1700 which makes for a tough choice IMHO. The onboard reverb has no equal among synths; this thing really needs no external effects. Though the Summit filters are fairly good it is my hope to see Novation introduce basically a Summit "2" with the Sequential SEM and 2140 filters along with their vintage algorithm along with Poly AT.
Great video! I have the Prophet Rev 2 I am thinking about getting the Novation Summit. My concern is that it may be similar to the Rev 2. Your thoughts are welcome Thank you.
Neve had a rev 2 but I have heard them in use, never liked the sound. The peak is subtractive and wavetable based and you can load up your own wavetables so I personally don’t think it has much overlap at all.
I cherish my Peak. Whereas the Summit is sorta a “twin peaks,” I wish Novation would make a Bass Station III that was like “half a Peak.” Give us a 2.5-3 octave kb and a 4-voice Peak engine in a portable/gigable form factor. Price it between a BS2 and a Peak and it’s an instant buy
Trust you? I own a lot of big synth on the market. Some of them are great such Omnisphere, Falcon, Dune 3, Halion, Spire etc… But none of them can reach the organic vibe of the Summit.
I almost bought a peak a few years ago. Got such a deal on a moog sound studio 3 I couldn’t pass up though. Not the same things by any means but I can’t afford everything at the moment. Still interested in the peak. I do use my circuit with the sound studio so I do have some novation involved :)
@@YukiTheSynthDragon Its such an underrated synth and the fact that it barely drops in price proves how solid it is. I’m still trying to master mine. Has so much to offer! 😎✌️
Have you ever played with the Prophet 12? It kinda has the same setup with FPGA oscillators and analog filters... minus the reverb and chorus unfortunately.
I don't think the 12 uses FPGA's for sound generation. I think if it has any it might only be being used as glue logic to combine general propose dsp's. I can't find any mention that the 12 uses and FPGA for sound generation. The digitakt for example uses an FPGA for glue logic to allow 2 nxp coldfire dsps to communicate.
@@YukiTheSynthDragon Yes you are right, I confused that with the Shark processors, there is a nice "take apart" of the P12 from Markus Fuller that showed these... ua-cam.com/video/vswYsX-huxw/v-deo.html
I was thinking about to buy Peak... But just one thing that stopped me was: it has no multitimbrality! How strange is it to has a pretty powerful FPGA inside and not make at least the four part multitimbral machine? So I've bought A4 MK2 :) And it worth the sound it gives. Of course the FX-section of Peak is better but it's not the most important part in it. Considering it's price I was surprized that it's not multi-timbral actually!
Filter and VCA are analog....they would have to include 4 copies of each in the synth to make it multi-timbral....then the price would probably go up significantly.....such is the headache of hybrids lol
@@thesynthlord954 there are already eight copies of the filter, VCA, distortion and drive etc. Peak is fully 8 voice polyphonic. Multitimbrality would however greatly complicate the firmware and memory management, editing interface would need some extra buttons, and the effects would need to potentially be duplicated four times.
@@SonicVibe Circuit Tracks' synth is indeed like the Mininova. Just with much less polyphony. And one less oscillator. And less envelopes. And less LFOs. And no vocoder. And less insert FX and FX types.
I sold my Peak…. To buy a Summit (second hand for 1400€) . No session without turn it on. I love it !
YOU are the person I’ve been waiting for…at least 1 if not 2 years now!
During that time, realizing that SUMMIT (or PEAK, nearly) is the most gorgeous synth I’ve ever heard (and I’ve owned em all-no, I don’t mean CS 80 and Schmidt ALL, but a shameful, decadent collection.
I decided that it would be Crazy to buy a PEAK instead of a preowned Summit.
I’m not a live performer-sometimes I pretend. So recording in home studio.
I believes there IS MORE than simply 2 PEAKS to SUMMIT.
You’ve lived with Summit now.
Does the Synergistic Aspect of Summit, those features, amount to important functionality differences in your mind ? Like, you wouldn’t never trade Summit for 2 PEAKS and all the free cabling you need to polychain them, were the dollars EVEN and the 2 peaks were brand new?
Have you had moments when you doubted whether or not you gained that much ?
I guess l, bottom line, part of me thinks I should just buy a PEAK and not be a pig…
Thanks!
Mark
@@watchaddicts1213 Buy the Summit! even on paper the Summit is more than two Peaks (extra split filter modes, and the dedicated FM knobs alone save you up to 9 mod slots compared to on the Peak, audio input, keyboard, one touch split/dual/layer multi switching), the split and layer implementation is great, two instances of the same great FX - though you do lose the ability to run the FX purely 100% wet (seemingly due to hardware design oversight)
Where the f did you find a summit for 1400 😌
Snagged myself a reconditioned Summit for £1500 a year ago, phenomenal synth.
Me too. 1600 from focusrite when they were quite new still. Worth the read of my message BTW... Read on...
The first summit cutoff knob was faulty and had a clear dead spot. Focusrite went thru it all with me and offered a swap replacement... For a new one!
However. I had a mad moment. I decided at the time I had too much crap so they agreed instead to let me have a peak. I thought "I'll be OK with that I'm sure I've got x and y other synths ". But in the end I never used it much and started to let GAS make me think about alternatives...
One day though... I realised how great the summit was. How I was proud of it's awesome looks too... And I saw one for 1100 gbp.
I decided I'd buy it and maybe sell peak to cover the gap.
Just as I was about to go and see it.. He sold it to a mate of his. I was so annoyed. I mean I got why you'd do it if a good mate wanted it etc and he did text me to apologise hugely.
I made him feel as good as I could.
Stuck then I thought... Ah flip I'll ask focusrite if they've another refurb.
Got chatting. Bearing in mind I'd had the peak a good year by now.
Sod it. "Guys I don't suppose seeing as what's just happened that you're feeling sorry for me pretty please..."
Few days later. Door swap delivery. BRAND NEW SUMMIT. Peak back to focusrite
Focusrite are legends. Absolute legends.
Thanks for the Peak videos. I'm a fellow owner and far from a synthesiser expert so any first hand info I can get from other users is super-useful. Have been scouring UA-cam for Peak content but not so easy to find due to the algorithm... Found your channel via a Reddit comment. Much appreciated.
Congrats. Must've been a gut punch dealing with the flooding. Glad you've got another. Really happy with mine, along with the BSii.
My summit is hands down my favorite synth I've ever had. I will never sell it. If something happened to it, I'd get another one.
I recently got a hydrasynth explorer, and while I like it a lot, it doesn't come anywhere remotely close to sounding as good. Yes, it's technically "more powerful" but, the peak and summit just straight up sounds fucking good at all times. Hell, even a basic saw way filter sweep with just a taste of the on-board effects sounds incredible.
Also, you're correct, the effects are better than any other synth I've ever heard. I would buy an effects unit with just those effects as a pedal if it was available.
Hydrasynth turned me off because of all the menu diving. Peak feels a lot more hands-on analog. I already have Pigment and other capable soft synths for digital. Its a lot easier for me because of the big-screen editing.
@@Skylabz604that weird I owned the hydra but it’s not very menu divy . It probably has one of the best UI for sound editing out of any synth in the market. I ended up selling cuz I didn’t really love the sounds .
@@mastermachetier5594 not very menu deep but it still requires a lot of switching. On peak you have access to the main LFO and envelopes right on the board.
Love the Peak! Admittedly, I don't use it super often, but every time I do, it's a lovely experience. It sounds amazing!
The Summit can take external input and put it through the effects, it's one of the reasons I went for it over the Peak.
A JD-Xi, Kross2 61, or MC-707 was the far better choice for that purpose over the Summit. One of those plus a Peak.
@@Jason75913 I disagree, the effects of the summit/peak are something special. Stick a Moog through one and you'll see what I mean.
@@squoblat FX are not a Novation strength, in my experience, but they are for Korg, Roland, and obviously FX pedal makers.
@@Jason75913 I agree with you in general, but the Peak/Summit is something special. I've got a room full of effects pedals/boxes and the Summit has something that none of the others do in terms of flavour.
@@Jason75913 the reverb on the Peak/Summit is one of the best ever reverbs found on a hardware synth, courtest of the legend that was Mr. Chris Hugget
I've had... Super 6. Take 5. Ob6. Sub 37.
I kept the summit. I know it's personal but I do feel it is just a fab all rounder and it was my first proper synth in lockdown.
That and my digitone. Just something about em
digitone is also a great synth to pair with the peak / summit
@@YukiTheSynthDragon yeah I kinda fell for other people's hype and the synths I sold were all immense but it just felt unnecessary for me musically
Love the digitone
@@quantummonastery IKR. One of my modular obsessed mates just got one after years of thinking about it and is all... Why the hell didn't I do this before?!
Honestly. When results are this easy and beautiful I feel comfortable in ditching much of the modular I bought personally.
Currently I have it set up with my nord stage 4 and it's an awesome combo for jamming
Any patch tutorials are always appreciated!!! Subbed
Love to see others using Launchpads for control, my Linnstrument just arrived and am so excited.
Great video 🏆
Most people who use it use it for ambient background types of sounds. I want near naked init type of patches and just tweak them in where they could be used chromatically. I know this synth is capable of giving me what I want just need to dedicate the time to it and get quick on the draw.
I've been saying in my head i wish it has an effects insert! The summit does have an external in you can run through the effects but im not aware of a way i could use it as an insert. As in run the synth pre effects into pedals and then into the on board effects
Wow. When you turn on that reverb, yeah, wow. VERY nice.
I will definitely get a peak soon. Just love the sounds coming out of it. And the reverb seems insanely good. Thanks for this in depth video.
I think it is the best reverb in a synth below $5k easily. I say that since the moog one has eventide stuff but the price is not realistic at all either !
Do you have/ or have you owned any other highly praised synths? I own a Prophet 5 and a MiniFreak right now. I’m contemplating how well would a Peak fit in my setup.
Love your style, have owned a Peak for a while and learned a few things. More Peak vids please!
Good evening Yuki. Thanks so much for your awesome music 🎶. This sounds amazing 👏 🎶. I hope everything is going well in Your world 🌎. Mark Bensette Aux Bois 🇨🇦.
I bought one used, which is on it´s way right now. This video is intensifying my hype and makes me ordering a decksaver RIGHT FUCKING NOW. And there isn´t even a bathroom above me.
Not lose the effect bypass probably you could decrease both wet and dry levels by the same extent to avoid clipping?
You get this odd alaisasing effect still even with lowering levels.
I bought a peak for my live setup used for a real great price. Having the wavetable option makes it a forever synth. It’s in my studio setup right now since I just got it. I love how easy it is to change out presets and save them as well.
Overlooked and underrated synth to be sure. One can be had in good condition for under $1k while a Summit is $1700 which makes for a tough choice IMHO. The onboard reverb has no equal among synths; this thing really needs no external effects. Though the Summit filters are fairly good it is my hope to see Novation introduce basically a Summit "2" with the Sequential SEM and 2140 filters along with their vintage algorithm along with Poly AT.
Great sounding patches! I own a Summit.
Wow! Awesome video 🎉 best pace I’ve ever seen.
Wow! Super saw is amazing. What is that pad you are using on the right there?
Launchpad pro mk3
Great video! I have the Prophet Rev 2 I am thinking about getting the Novation Summit. My concern is that it may be similar to the Rev 2. Your thoughts are welcome
Thank you.
Neve had a rev 2 but I have heard them in use, never liked the sound. The peak is subtractive and wavetable based and you can load up your own wavetables so I personally don’t think it has much overlap at all.
@@YukiTheSynthDragon Thank you!
After hearing how nice your Peak sounds I purchased one! Do you know how to locate the Flanger effect in the menu? Thank you
@@AmbientSound7 make sure you have the latest firmware. if you have the latest firmware it is in one of the FX menu tabs.
@@YukiTheSynthDragon Thank you!
So where can I find that intro patch?!?
I agree…PERIOD
I cherish my Peak. Whereas the Summit is sorta a “twin peaks,” I wish Novation would make a Bass Station III that was like “half a Peak.” Give us a 2.5-3 octave kb and a 4-voice Peak engine in a portable/gigable form factor. Price it between a BS2 and a Peak and it’s an instant buy
Got one!🥰
You cant get these sounds on vst s trust me.
Trust you? I own a lot of big synth on the market. Some of them are great such Omnisphere, Falcon, Dune 3, Halion, Spire etc…
But none of them can reach the organic vibe of the Summit.
I almost bought a peak a few years ago. Got such a deal on a moog sound studio 3 I couldn’t pass up though. Not the same things by any means but I can’t afford everything at the moment. Still interested in the peak.
I do use my circuit with the sound studio so I do have some novation involved :)
Peak is an end game synth imo. It’s does so much and they can be a bargain used sometimes. A friend of mine got one locally for like $850 mint.
More Peak!
I do plan on it.
@@YukiTheSynthDragon Its such an underrated synth and the fact that it barely drops in price proves how solid it is. I’m still trying to master mine. Has so much to offer! 😎✌️
Have you ever played with the Prophet 12? It kinda has the same setup with FPGA oscillators and analog filters... minus the reverb and chorus unfortunately.
I don't think the 12 uses FPGA's for sound generation. I think if it has any it might only be being used as glue logic to combine general propose dsp's. I can't find any mention that the 12 uses and FPGA for sound generation. The digitakt for example uses an FPGA for glue logic to allow 2 nxp coldfire dsps to communicate.
@@YukiTheSynthDragon Yes you are right, I confused that with the Shark processors, there is a nice "take apart" of the P12 from Markus Fuller that showed these... ua-cam.com/video/vswYsX-huxw/v-deo.html
Waldorf Kyra and Novation Peak are the 1st synth with fpga
I was thinking about to buy Peak... But just one thing that stopped me was: it has no multitimbrality! How strange is it to has a pretty powerful FPGA inside and not make at least the four part multitimbral machine? So I've bought A4 MK2 :) And it worth the sound it gives.
Of course the FX-section of Peak is better but it's not the most important part in it. Considering it's price I was surprized that it's not multi-timbral actually!
Filter and VCA are analog....they would have to include 4 copies of each in the synth to make it multi-timbral....then the price would probably go up significantly.....such is the headache of hybrids lol
@@thesynthlord954 And I bet it would have to drop the sample rate from 24Mhz.
@@thesynthlord954 there are already eight copies of the filter, VCA, distortion and drive etc. Peak is fully 8 voice polyphonic.
Multitimbrality would however greatly complicate the firmware and memory management, editing interface would need some extra buttons, and the effects would need to potentially be duplicated four times.
I heard Modal is another company basically learning the hardest way possible how extremely important marketing is.
Same synth as the circuit tracks ?
Not even close.
@@YukiTheSynthDragon o yeah I forgot it’s the mininova the peak is like the summit
@@SonicVibe Circuit Tracks' synth is indeed like the Mininova. Just with much less polyphony. And one less oscillator. And less envelopes. And less LFOs. And no vocoder. And less insert FX and FX types.
@@Jason75913 I’m just surprised how good I can get it to sound being kinda outdated
@@SonicVibe probably because it is _not_ outdated?