So, I live in this model full time (2021 version) and I personally love the stairs to the loft and recommend you do what we did and get rid of the recliners - really opens up the space. We love sitting across from the TV, hasn’t been a problem for us. And oh that deck 😍… It’s one of our favorite features!!! Love our RV!!!
We live in a truck bed camper and my husband specifically got one with a patio/ deck (whatever you wanna call it😂😂😂) and my husband lives out there when he isn’t at work
That deck is amazing. Instead of having to walk out the side door down to the ground and have you seating beside the camper, just walk out on the deck and just sit and enjoy the view. Wether that be the sunrise, the sunset or just sitting out during the day and just enjoying the weather. But mid bunks have come to be my favorite.
@@lindafannon-cj9xi I think the main difference is they made the trailer slightly longer (2021s are 40’4”, 2023s are 42’5”) and moved the configuration of the oven and fridge, giving you a bit more countertop where the oven is in 2023… To be honest, I’d personally rather have the 2021. So many of the parks we’ve stayed at limit your length to 40’ and we’ve been able to round down and say we’re 40’ and get in… at 42’ you really can’t do that. Good luck 🍀
We travel full-time in this RV. Our 6 year old sleeps in the loft ( the stairs are her favorite part) and 2 year old sleeps in the mid bunk. The closet is big enough for all 4 of our clothes and the washer dryer combo. The huge step in the loft hasn’t been an issue for my 6 or 2 year old, they just go down facing the loft. The porch and dishwasher are my favorite features. We absolutely LOVE this floor plan.
Actually with those stairs instead of a ladder? All a child has to do is climb the 1st few steps turn around and sit their backside down on that top one and pull their feet up. So in effect much safer.
I am sooo excited to see the KZ Durango showcased!!! You always hear about Alliance and Grand Design but rarely KZ. I own this model without the mid bunk, 358RPQ. It’s exactly the same layout without midbunk. I live in my full time and absolutely love it! The patio and dishwasher and overall quality sold me. The storage is awesome, it’s a fabulous unit.
Tbh this one would be absolutely perfect for me, in every way. Great job on the vid btw, you touched on everything important and kept it short and simple without droning on or taking too long like a lot of folks do. Thank you
I love the larger sink with the colander tray insert (Ikea!). I wash, even the pots easily in the big sink, but easily set a single bowl and coffee up in the colander tray to dry, and not mix wet and dry areas. I'd the best of both worlds! I'd add a single step wooden "ladder" with the step adjustable and the rails on either side permanently installed. It would grow or go depending on the age and size of children. Having used the old metal ladder in our our 1973 Winnebago (back when it was new!), the last step or 2 at the top was useless. My shins were long enough that climbing down I used the 3rd or 4th step, climbing up the 2nd or 3rd!
The loft stairs are amazing. Literally couldn’t find a single thing we didn’t LOVE about this trailer. So much storage, so much space and highest quality we found at the Hershey PA show last year.
I own one of these and am one of the viewers that have suggest this for review due to your liking of mid bunks. The steps to the loft are no problem for me, kids, and drunks. Drunk people actually have enjoyed crawling up there and passing out. I never would have guessed that one, but it actually makes sense once you witness it. This unit also has a dishwasher which comes in handy. We really like the rear patio, but it does take away from some of the living space. The kitchen (ours 2019) is limited (only 1 drawer less counter space around stove) and this can be an issue for extended stay / full timing. Ours is in a seasonal lot. We use the mid bunk as a coffee room and kind of butlers pantry in addition to extra sleeping space if needed. Over all really good unit, but I would not make this my first choice for full timers.
Yeah, it's just confusing to some people because they think of it in terms of getting to a second floor but for a loft you're not going to be standing up there. So it actually makes more sense to have a transition point where you switch to and from a standing position to a horizontal position in the loft, as that's much easier on the body. Analogy would be how you would be getting on and off a high platform storage bed. You don't step up onto it, you climb on and lay down, which requires much less effort... Especially, better for people who lack flexibility as climbing all the way into the loft means needing to contort and bend your way into the loft, while trying to keep your balance. So, even the ladder with real steps would still be less safe... It just seems counter intuitive to some people...
I love this model. Patio & optional dishwasher a huge plus. No hanging closet space in the mid-bunk is a disappointment. Hard to find this model - I have been looking for one to view in person. Love that you & Miles did a video together, with differing opinions. I watch both of you often. Both of you have great information & knowledge to share!
We have been full-time in this model (2023, delivered to the dealer Sept 2022) since Oct 2022. We got it specifically because of the midbunk (husband works f/t remote) and the rear patio. We have two dogs and they LOVE to spend hours sleeping on the patio every afternoon. I also love all the light that comes in the sliding door. My husband tried to set up his work space with the couch in the midbunk, but no go. It is now on the deck while we decide what to do with it and his desk setup is where the couch used to be. While we do have some things stored in the closed top bunk, we would way rather not have it and have windows that are at eye, rather than knee, level. Actually, if this room had an "office" option with a desk built into the cupboards, it would be perfect Love the huge basin sink and the dishwasher. It's a bit small but works great. I HATE that there is only ONE drawer in the kitchen!!! I ended up putting an end table to the right of the sink for more drawer space. They could easily have added another bank of narrow drawers there (we asked if they would do that during construction. Hard no, even though the model without the midbunk has them and they would fit). They also should remove the dividers between the cupboard doors left of the stove. It takes some acrobatics to get a plate or pot in and out of those narrow doors. All the cabinets in the living space are great! We use the loft bunk for storage. The stairs up to it have by default become our shoe rack, actually works great because where else is there to put shoes?!? We can both have three pairs out at a time. The coat closet is tiny but a lifesaver. There is room for a few coats to squish in and dog leashes in the bottom. Bathroom layout has been great. There actually was no toilet paper holder installed, just left in a drawer. It ended up being for the best as I got a tower holder that just sits in the back corner by the shower. The rack is too small for bath towels but some big 3M hooks on the wall do the trick nicely. Love the hot water on demand, although it takes some getting used to how it works. We put in the washer and dryer, well worth it although I miss the full length closet space. The fireplace in the living space and bedroom save us a lot of propane for heating in the mornings and evenings/overnight. We lasted three months with the mattress before buying a new one. The bed has a tilt, and for some reason there is a big gap in the plywood support directly under a "hinge" in the mattress so the mattress would just sag into it. My husband in particular would be sleeping in a crevasse. Not good. Love the drawers under the bed, and the side cubby is indeed perfect for a sleep apnea machine. If people on both sides of the bed use one you're out of luck though. We have a large window in the hall with a blind. Not in sure what they are thinking putting this small, high one in now. We upgraded all our windows to double pane, well worth it. We ordered ours from a dealer while it was still on the assembly line and swapped out the living room couch for theatre seats to watch tv. Very happy we did that as the couch is not super comfy (we tried it beforehand). The large tv (Sansui) was crap. Our dealer gave us some money towards buying a new one. We installed it and left the crappy one for them. The finishing is not great, door and wall trim separating all over the place. My husband was a finish carpenter in a former life so at some point will probably just rip in it all out and redo it. OUR BIGGEST ISSUE: THERE IS NO REAR TRAILER HITCH EVEN THOUGH THE SPECS ALL SAY THAT THERE IS AND THE TRAILER HITCH PACKAGE IS LISTED FOR THIS MODEL. We were counting on this to at least have our bike rack for travelling, or perhaps in the future triple tow a small cargo trailer. KZ has NOT been responsive, and I think our dealer feels like there is nothing they can do. They said go and have one installed after market and we will try and get it reimbursed from KZ. So, we will see. Overall, the layout was the best choice for what we were looking for for full-time living, and the patio is as great in real life as it seems in videos!
I hope by this time you replaced the mattress, rvmattress has an exact fit 70x80. JD did not mention the dishwasher on our golds. Ours soon to have independent suspension and disk brakes. Replaced the main steps with the lift assist version.
I love the two of you doing a video together! Seeing the different opinions on features is absolutely great! I really like the tv! That large step, I would think the smaller kids would enjoy a bit of a climb. My kids loved to climb! They would have flipped to stay in a loft. You could put a baby gate up there for smaller kids to keep them safe. If they are smaller, you’ll probably be getting up with them through the night if they need to get up, anyway. Great video guys! I would really enjoy more of this! 👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻
I think the large step going up to the loft is beneficial. Since there is minimal space (a crawl space if you will) the large step will force you to climb with one leg bent into a crawling position so you aren’t attempting to stand and hitting your head. That was my thought anyway. Very nice RV. I wish all of the Durango lines with outdoor kitchens would go back to an outdoor sink and ditch the smokers. Everyone that I know who uses a smoker uses the one they prefer, not the one that comes with the unit. I for one would be leaving the smoker that it comes with on a shelf in the garage at home. A sink in the outdoor kitchen, in my opinion, is much more useful compared to a small smoker that takes up all that space.
Just bought our 2024 today and really enjoyed your video. There is no top step because the ceiling is too low. The height of the last step is perfect for a kid to bend over and roll into bed. Keep up the good work!
I love the patio on the traditional toy hauler. We have a toy hauler and I wish we had a patio off to the side. In most campgrounds we are not able to put the patio down and believe that that could be done on the traditional fifth wheel as well.
Having owned a GD 367BHS the way they positioned the couch and chairs was an EXCELLENT new feature. It was always weird to me the bed would be facing the front of the trailer instead of the TV. Excellent feature. As far as the ladder goes from my 376BHS I much prefer the design of the steps vs the ladder, the ladder always hurt to climb up barefoot or in socks.
I am in love, it has every single thing hubby and I want!!!! I do not like the ladders to the loft at all, the stairs are perfect even if one step is big, who cares!!! Fire place in master!!! Tilted king bed in master as well. Bunk is sweet tons of storage!!! We are selling house soon and this is definitely one we will look at!!!!
We love the mid bunk as well. I don’t think that last step is a problem since you’re on your hands and knees at that point. Much rather have the stairs bs the ladder.
I was going to say the same thing. I really think they put some thought into leaving that last step off because , like you said, at that point you are going to be transitioning to hands and knees and that last step would really just be in the way.
I love this RV the floor plan is great. It’s got the extra sleeping areas. The optional outdoor patio lets you enjoy a great view with a morning coffee. (Especially if your backed into a great camping spot on the water)The kitchen /living room has the required essentials. The bath and bedroom area are standard. I’m wondering if this is 3/4 ton diesel towable. It has everything I’d require or my family.
The bigger step up to the loft area makes PERFECT sense to me, being disabled I couldn't do a ladder &&& if it were two smaller steps you couldn't walk up into the ceiling. I feel it's designed perfectly for someone small or with mobility issues, you go up 2-3 small steps then sit & roll. AND would make it easier to make the bed. Id give this design a 10/10.
I prefer single, when my grands was small we could use as a tub also. But I typically put my soap and water in a bowl on the side and use the sink to rinse. I love that patio. We searched for it not on a toy hauler.
I’m a single basin person, they hold our stock pot nicely. If you want a smaller sink use a bin/bowl & a dish drainer to dry them. We have a KZ dealer near us in Alberta & hoped to visit the one we really liked at the RV show but they didn’t bring any 5ivers. We don’t need the mid bunk & the deck is “nice to have” but can live without. We had visited them last summer just to see what’s available. The Durango Gold is 4Season and made for full timing.
We have the 2021 Durango Gold G383RLQ. Have had it 20 months now and done some traveling and we do live in it full-time. Everything has held up great!. The 2 year warranty gives us some peace of mind that if anything does go wrong, we have some extra time to get it fixed at the dealer. The High Spec Tires have held up just fine. I did replace the EquaFlex suspension with he MoreRyde CRE4000. Ours came with 210 watts of solar and I have added another 200 watts. I also changed out the battery to a 200ah lithium. Yes, I highly recommend the Gold version of the Durango.
Just got this model last year after 5 other RV's! (Puma travel trailer, Rockwood hybrid, XLR toy hauler, Sabre 5th wheel) It checks all the boxes including an already installed dishwasher...so give me whatever sink you want, LOL. I still plan to upgrade the suspension as the shackles are very thin and I trust the road armor more. The tires also will be upgraded first thing...just love my Sailuns that you installed many moons ago and have stuck with them as a reliable tire. It also has a tankless water heater which my wife and kids love. Hands down, the patio is the best feature. We noticed one come in to the campground we were at and I had to get a tour. I was instantly hooked. My only "negative" is that due to the dishwasher you sacrifice drawer space. I know many owners have taken out the dishwasher and put in drawers.
JD, i was one who mentioned KZ Durango Gold to you about a yr and half ago. We bought one a yr ago (386fl) and love it! It is holding up well. I can get (2) 14' kayaks in the back basement.
Regarding the missing toilet paper roll holder in the bathroom, many manufacturers leave it uninstalled until the unit is sold, due to different folks having different preferences and to where it ends up being mounted. Bathrooms are a "wet space", obviously, so penetrations into the walls should be kept to a minimum. Seems a lot of folks don't like where the manufacturer decides to mount to toilet paper holder and so later move it on their own, leaving behind holes in the wall or cabinets where moisture can penetrate...
@Myles RV’s I found you and your wife last night when I viewed a video similar to this one. Congratulations on your following!! My son is about your age and just started working in RV sales too. Best of luck to you!!
Currently living FT in our RV. This would be my DREAM RV. ❤️❤️ ❤️ it! Agree that choice of stairs to the loft is definitely not ideal. Wider stair tread ladder to me would be preferable. ❤ The back patio option is also on my WISH LIST. I’d convert room with bunk to a private office area or remove furniture for off-season clothing/ walk in closet.
How exciting to see a new design and then to see the 2 of you do you want together. Again, having two of you give opinions right away makes it real. Would there be such a thing as a sectional type couch that you could put there and then be able to separate the 2 chairs, and have it become two separate recliners and then the middle piece become a footstool and it can move over to the other couch. About the sink, I am one that does prefer a double sink, so you can have dishes, maybe soaking in the smaller section of the sink, and the larger pans can fit in the bigger section. I'd like to see the Pantry door with frosty glass and the word Pantry on it. The idea of having the spare bunk room it's kind of neat but we also would prefer A 1/2 bath. To consider this being lived in full time, I would not want the fireplace, although it's ideal for heating and ombiance,I'd still rather have more drawers for storage. Was there storage under bed? I do like bed side table lower but not right on top of the bed, you know? Nice counter space in bathroom and able to hand towels over toilet is OK, I guess. But no TP holder?! Like the coat closet by door but need area for muddy shoes. The carpeted steps isn't ideal... kids need something to hold onto while climbing up and down, so need different steps. I like the colors in there and well, as we know, can't have everything or please everyone. Thanx for the video!
Very cool floor plan, I’ve never had a single sink, not sure about it. Love the patio, the step is a huge miss for the unit, an accident waiting to happen. Great job guys!!
I like the general floor plan and the back patio. Mid bunk is always nice. The loft for me is storage but that last step up is to high. Good tour, thanks
We have had 2 Forest River's with the deck. One Sierra and its sister Sandpiper. We would have bought a 3rd had they not stopped making them. Loved having a deck without it being a toy hauler.
Glad you two ran into each other! My favorite RV guys!! I understand the reason behind the steps to the loft. Kids would just skip over the top. To them, it's a game! Nice patio, but I would prefer if you could get it without a bunkhouse.
The patio concept is really cool, but I think putting it on the dining/living room slide with sliding glass door at the table similar to what Open Range did with one of their front living bumper pull models 10 years ago would absolutely kill it!
I'm guessing that weird step is a result of the low ceiling clearance in the space. You're probably already running into the ceiling on the middle step. I'm also guessing the interior space of the room below dictates a bit of the design.
Like the patio. Large single sink for big pots and pans with a sloped drying rack on the counter. I'd put a reclining love seat if that's not already there. Nice mid-bunk design. I understand the tall top riser, one would lift up on the floor to get in. Less chance of hitting one's head on the ceiling. I'd prefer a queen bed with side cabinet design over a king. Overall a nice looking rig.
The sink is a little inconvenient. I like the patio idea, but if the RV is at an RV park or resort it might take up too much space to use. Plus you would be so close to your neighbor. I love the mid bunk plan. So glad they are making rvs with cpaps in mind!
Yo JD, it's called a dish drying rack 😂 Unsurprisingly +1 for single basin sink fan here Great video, that back patio is a game-changer! Though I agree, that huge top loft step is unusable for getting down and much more dangerous than a ladder where you can feel for the top step before you start going too far down
I like the steps up to the loft and the large top step makes sense. You can’t stand up in the loft so you either crawl on your knees from the top step to the bed, or you sit your butt down on the top step and scoot over to the bed, same thing getting out. Personally I think it might be safer and easier.
Both of you two had great views on the RV outlook. Agree with the loft area stairs are a bit dangerous the last step. Who designed it wasn't thinking about kids to adults going up or down in a safe manner.
I'm a Hugh's fan of Myles and hid wife also those two theater seats should shivel I love ❤️ the floor plan mid bunk and patio just rhaf last step needs working on
🥰 absolutely beautiful thank you for showing, I'm looking for one myself but I am disabled, I am in a wheelchair also I need to have a conversation for a lift because I wanted to go full-time, and UA-camr as well
I do really like the KZ Durango Golds like this. They've been making 'em for a few years now. That back patio is one of my dream features that isn't on pretty much all the floorplans/types we look for. We don't need/want a big heavy toy hauler, which are always way too short on true bed accommodations anyways. Even less so if it's a TT-TH. I've never gotten a chance to look at KZs but in videos and images they do seem to be a cut above most mass market 5Ws without going whole-hog into Riverstones, DRVs, etc.
So, I live in this model full time (2021 version) and I personally love the stairs to the loft and recommend you do what we did and get rid of the recliners - really opens up the space. We love sitting across from the TV, hasn’t been a problem for us. And oh that deck 😍… It’s one of our favorite features!!! Love our RV!!!
We live in a truck bed camper and my husband specifically got one with a patio/ deck (whatever you wanna call it😂😂😂) and my husband lives out there when he isn’t at work
That deck is amazing. Instead of having to walk out the side door down to the ground and have you seating beside the camper, just walk out on the deck and just sit and enjoy the view. Wether that be the sunrise, the sunset or just sitting out during the day and just enjoying the weather. But mid bunks have come to be my favorite.
how is the 2021 different from the 2023 ?
i’m looking at a used 2021 tomorrow
@@lindafannon-cj9xi I think the main difference is they made the trailer slightly longer (2021s are 40’4”, 2023s are 42’5”) and moved the configuration of the oven and fridge, giving you a bit more countertop where the oven is in 2023… To be honest, I’d personally rather have the 2021. So many of the parks we’ve stayed at limit your length to 40’ and we’ve been able to round down and say we’re 40’ and get in… at 42’ you really can’t do that. Good luck 🍀
We travel full-time in this RV. Our 6 year old sleeps in the loft ( the stairs are her favorite part) and 2 year old sleeps in the mid bunk. The closet is big enough for all 4 of our clothes and the washer dryer combo. The huge step in the loft hasn’t been an issue for my 6 or 2 year old, they just go down facing the loft. The porch and dishwasher are my favorite features. We absolutely LOVE this floor plan.
How reliable has KZ been for y’all ?
What do you need to pull it?
This is by far my favorite floor plan of any I've ever seen!!!
Glad you love it! Thanks for watching!
My two favorite RV review guys!!! And yes, congrats to Myles and Firmly unbound!! 👏 👍
Thank you!! And thanks for watching!
Thank you all for watching! Hope you enjoy!
Does the dog on the patio come with the RV? 🥰 🐶
Well behaved dog 😂
Actually with those stairs instead of a ladder? All a child has to do is climb the 1st few steps turn around and sit their backside down on that top one and pull their feet up. So in effect much safer.
I am sooo excited to see the KZ Durango showcased!!! You always hear about Alliance and Grand Design but rarely KZ. I own this model without the mid bunk, 358RPQ. It’s exactly the same layout without midbunk. I live in my full time and absolutely love it! The patio and dishwasher and overall quality sold me. The storage is awesome, it’s a fabulous unit.
Yes! I love to here about something different as well and this is a really great unit and has some great features
Tbh this one would be absolutely perfect for me, in every way. Great job on the vid btw, you touched on everything important and kept it short and simple without droning on or taking too long like a lot of folks do. Thank you
I love the larger sink with the colander tray insert (Ikea!). I wash, even the pots easily in the big sink, but easily set a single bowl and coffee up in the colander tray to dry, and not mix wet and dry areas. I'd the best of both worlds! I'd add a single step wooden "ladder" with the step adjustable and the rails on either side permanently installed. It would grow or go depending on the age and size of children. Having used the old metal ladder in our our 1973 Winnebago (back when it was new!), the last step or 2 at the top was useless. My shins were long enough that climbing down I used the 3rd or 4th step, climbing up the 2nd or 3rd!
The loft stairs are amazing. Literally couldn’t find a single thing we didn’t LOVE about this trailer. So much storage, so much space and highest quality we found at the Hershey PA show last year.
I own one of these and am one of the viewers that have suggest this for review due to your liking of mid bunks. The steps to the loft are no problem for me, kids, and drunks. Drunk people actually have enjoyed crawling up there and passing out. I never would have guessed that one, but it actually makes sense once you witness it. This unit also has a dishwasher which comes in handy. We really like the rear patio, but it does take away from some of the living space. The kitchen (ours 2019) is limited (only 1 drawer less counter space around stove) and this can be an issue for extended stay / full timing. Ours is in a seasonal lot. We use the mid bunk as a coffee room and kind of butlers pantry in addition to extra sleeping space if needed. Over all really good unit, but I would not make this my first choice for full timers.
Yeah, it's just confusing to some people because they think of it in terms of getting to a second floor but for a loft you're not going to be standing up there. So it actually makes more sense to have a transition point where you switch to and from a standing position to a horizontal position in the loft, as that's much easier on the body. Analogy would be how you would be getting on and off a high platform storage bed. You don't step up onto it, you climb on and lay down, which requires much less effort...
Especially, better for people who lack flexibility as climbing all the way into the loft means needing to contort and bend your way into the loft, while trying to keep your balance. So, even the ladder with real steps would still be less safe... It just seems counter intuitive to some people...
Love this model, patio, tv room, so much to offer.
I love this model. Patio & optional dishwasher a huge plus. No hanging closet space in the mid-bunk is a disappointment. Hard to find this model - I have been looking for one to view in person.
Love that you & Miles did a video together, with differing opinions. I watch both of you often. Both of you have great information & knowledge to share!
My two favourite RV UA-camrs!!
We have been full-time in this model (2023, delivered to the dealer Sept 2022) since Oct 2022. We got it specifically because of the midbunk (husband works f/t remote) and the rear patio. We have two dogs and they LOVE to spend hours sleeping on the patio every afternoon. I also love all the light that comes in the sliding door.
My husband tried to set up his work space with the couch in the midbunk, but no go. It is now on the deck while we decide what to do with it and his desk setup is where the couch used to be. While we do have some things stored in the closed top bunk, we would way rather not have it and have windows that are at eye, rather than knee, level. Actually, if this room had an "office" option with a desk built into the cupboards, it would be perfect
Love the huge basin sink and the dishwasher. It's a bit small but works great. I HATE that there is only ONE drawer in the kitchen!!! I ended up putting an end table to the right of the sink for more drawer space. They could easily have added another bank of narrow drawers there (we asked if they would do that during construction. Hard no, even though the model without the midbunk has them and they would fit). They also should remove the dividers between the cupboard doors left of the stove. It takes some acrobatics to get a plate or pot in and out of those narrow doors. All the cabinets in the living space are great!
We use the loft bunk for storage. The stairs up to it have by default become our shoe rack, actually works great because where else is there to put shoes?!? We can both have three pairs out at a time. The coat closet is tiny but a lifesaver. There is room for a few coats to squish in and dog leashes in the bottom.
Bathroom layout has been great. There actually was no toilet paper holder installed, just left in a drawer. It ended up being for the best as I got a tower holder that just sits in the back corner by the shower. The rack is too small for bath towels but some big 3M hooks on the wall do the trick nicely. Love the hot water on demand, although it takes some getting used to how it works.
We put in the washer and dryer, well worth it although I miss the full length closet space. The fireplace in the living space and bedroom save us a lot of propane for heating in the mornings and evenings/overnight. We lasted three months with the mattress before buying a new one. The bed has a tilt, and for some reason there is a big gap in the plywood support directly under a "hinge" in the mattress so the mattress would just sag into it. My husband in particular would be sleeping in a crevasse. Not good. Love the drawers under the bed, and the side cubby is indeed perfect for a sleep apnea machine. If people on both sides of the bed use one you're out of luck though.
We have a large window in the hall with a blind. Not in sure what they are thinking putting this small, high one in now. We upgraded all our windows to double pane, well worth it.
We ordered ours from a dealer while it was still on the assembly line and swapped out the living room couch for theatre seats to watch tv. Very happy we did that as the couch is not super comfy (we tried it beforehand).
The large tv (Sansui) was crap. Our dealer gave us some money towards buying a new one. We installed it and left the crappy one for them. The finishing is not great, door and wall trim separating all over the place. My husband was a finish carpenter in a former life so at some point will probably just rip in it all out and redo it.
OUR BIGGEST ISSUE: THERE IS NO REAR TRAILER HITCH EVEN THOUGH THE SPECS ALL SAY THAT THERE IS AND THE TRAILER HITCH PACKAGE IS LISTED FOR THIS MODEL. We were counting on this to at least have our bike rack for travelling, or perhaps in the future triple tow a small cargo trailer. KZ has NOT been responsive, and I think our dealer feels like there is nothing they can do. They said go and have one installed after market and we will try and get it reimbursed from KZ. So, we will see.
Overall, the layout was the best choice for what we were looking for for full-time living, and the patio is as great in real life as it seems in videos!
I hope by this time you replaced the mattress, rvmattress has an exact fit 70x80. JD did not mention the dishwasher on our golds. Ours soon to have independent suspension and disk brakes. Replaced the main steps with the lift assist version.
I love the two of you doing a video together! Seeing the different opinions on features is absolutely great! I really like the tv! That large step, I would think the smaller kids would enjoy a bit of a climb. My kids loved to climb! They would have flipped to stay in a loft. You could put a baby gate up there for smaller kids to keep them safe. If they are smaller, you’ll probably be getting up with them through the night if they need to get up, anyway. Great video guys! I would really enjoy more of this! 👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻
Yes add rock climbing holds
Me too!
Love this camper. Best layout of any RV EVER! Can’t wait to upgrade 😅
Great to see you collaborate with Myles. He is such a go getter.
We love Miles!! And you. :) happy to see you both together
MylesRV is 1 of our favorite go-to for RV’s !!! Glad 2 see you both collaborate! I’m a new fan for Big Truck Big RV now!!!
I so appreciate the cpap ledge. And I appreciate you mentioning it. Hugs
We were there and found the one we are planning to get soon .. thanks for all the videos that you put out
That is one big, nice RV! Fireplace and barn door in the bedroom, and like the patio.
Wow!! Love the fireplace in the bedroom
Awesome to see yawl together really enjoy both your videos.
I think the large step going up to the loft is beneficial. Since there is minimal space (a crawl space if you will) the large step will force you to climb with one leg bent into a crawling position so you aren’t attempting to stand and hitting your head. That was my thought anyway. Very nice RV. I wish all of the Durango lines with outdoor kitchens would go back to an outdoor sink and ditch the smokers. Everyone that I know who uses a smoker uses the one they prefer, not the one that comes with the unit. I for one would be leaving the smoker that it comes with on a shelf in the garage at home. A sink in the outdoor kitchen, in my opinion, is much more useful compared to a small smoker that takes up all that space.
Carpet steps to bunk is good for pets 🐾
Just bought our 2024 today and really enjoyed your video. There is no top step because the ceiling is too low. The height of the last step is perfect for a kid to bend over and roll into bed. Keep up the good work!
We just bought the 2023 version of this. Sweet deal and excited to hit the road! ❤
This is our dream camper just got to get the truck before I can get the camper but I think it's an absolute full-timer dream
I love the patio on the traditional toy hauler. We have a toy hauler and I wish we had a patio off to the side. In most campgrounds we are not able to put the patio down and believe that that could be done on the traditional fifth wheel as well.
Nice unit has just about everything for a family. Single sink is ok. Queen bed. Nice having awning over patio in case raining for kids.
Interesting to get two different points of view from the the same RV in real time. Enjoyed!
Having owned a GD 367BHS the way they positioned the couch and chairs was an EXCELLENT new feature. It was always weird to me the bed would be facing the front of the trailer instead of the TV. Excellent feature. As far as the ladder goes from my 376BHS I much prefer the design of the steps vs the ladder, the ladder always hurt to climb up barefoot or in socks.
I am in love, it has every single thing hubby and I want!!!! I do not like the ladders to the loft at all, the stairs are perfect even if one step is big, who cares!!! Fire place in master!!! Tilted king bed in master as well. Bunk is sweet tons of storage!!! We are selling house soon and this is definitely one we will look at!!!!
Myles!!!! Hey there 👋👋 we love your channel with your wife! She's smart and has a cute sense of humor!
We love the mid bunk as well. I don’t think that last step is a problem since you’re on your hands and knees at that point. Much rather have the stairs bs the ladder.
Thanks for your input and thanks for watching!
I agree if that last step is a problem you probably to short to be on that ride
I was going to say the same thing. I really think they put some thought into leaving that last step off because , like you said, at that point you are going to be transitioning to hands and knees and that last step would really just be in the way.
I like the big basin and put n a dish basket so you can easily rinse them off after you're done washing them.i Love the mid-bunk and the porch!
I need something like this for my family. We live in an RV full time and this would be a better fit
Beautiful trailer to me I love the big single basin stainless steel sink like that.
I love this RV the floor plan is great. It’s got the extra sleeping areas. The optional outdoor patio lets you enjoy a great view with a morning coffee. (Especially if your backed into a great camping spot on the water)The kitchen /living room has the required essentials. The bath and bedroom area are standard. I’m wondering if this is 3/4 ton diesel towable. It has everything I’d require or my family.
No, it absolutely is not in towable with a 3/4 ton. We bought a one ton RAM 3500 to tow it with.
I would say no as well. We tow it with an F-350.
The bigger step up to the loft area makes PERFECT sense to me, being disabled I couldn't do a ladder &&& if it were two smaller steps you couldn't walk up into the ceiling. I feel it's designed perfectly for someone small or with mobility issues, you go up 2-3 small steps then sit & roll. AND would make it easier to make the bed. Id give this design a 10/10.
you read my mind - I couldn't do a ladder either. ;)
Love the non toy hauler back patio. I personally don't need the mid bunk. Great job for a manufacturer thinking outside the box.
They do have an option without the mid bunk that still has the back patio.
Probably my favorite one...I love that extra room
Thanks for watching!
Great info from two perspectives. loved it 💯
Midbunk room would be my craft room for quilting, crocheting, etc.
That's awesome! What a great set up for partying!
I love the patio in the back!
I prefer single, when my grands was small we could use as a tub also. But I typically put my soap and water in a bowl on the side and use the sink to rinse.
I love that patio. We searched for it not on a toy hauler.
Love love love this one!
I’m a single basin person, they hold our stock pot nicely. If you want a smaller sink use a bin/bowl & a dish drainer to dry them.
We have a KZ dealer near us in Alberta & hoped to visit the one we really liked at the RV show but they didn’t bring any 5ivers. We don’t need the mid bunk & the deck is “nice to have” but can live without. We had visited them last summer just to see what’s available. The Durango Gold is 4Season and made for full timing.
We have the 2021 Durango Gold G383RLQ. Have had it 20 months now and done some traveling and we do live in it full-time. Everything has held up great!. The 2 year warranty gives us some peace of mind that if anything does go wrong, we have some extra time to get it fixed at the dealer. The High Spec Tires have held up just fine. I did replace the EquaFlex suspension with he MoreRyde CRE4000. Ours came with 210 watts of solar and I have added another 200 watts. I also changed out the battery to a 200ah lithium. Yes, I highly recommend the Gold version of the Durango.
Fan of both you guys!!
Just got this model last year after 5 other RV's! (Puma travel trailer, Rockwood hybrid, XLR toy hauler, Sabre 5th wheel) It checks all the boxes including an already installed dishwasher...so give me whatever sink you want, LOL. I still plan to upgrade the suspension as the shackles are very thin and I trust the road armor more. The tires also will be upgraded first thing...just love my Sailuns that you installed many moons ago and have stuck with them as a reliable tire. It also has a tankless water heater which my wife and kids love.
Hands down, the patio is the best feature. We noticed one come in to the campground we were at and I had to get a tour. I was instantly hooked.
My only "negative" is that due to the dishwasher you sacrifice drawer space. I know many owners have taken out the dishwasher and put in drawers.
Sounds like you’re loving it and I’m glad to hear that! Thanks for watching!
JD, i was one who mentioned KZ Durango Gold to you about a yr and half ago. We bought one a yr ago (386fl) and love it! It is holding up well. I can get (2) 14' kayaks in the back basement.
Regarding the missing toilet paper roll holder in the bathroom, many manufacturers leave it uninstalled until the unit is sold, due to different folks having different preferences and to where it ends up being mounted. Bathrooms are a "wet space", obviously, so penetrations into the walls should be kept to a minimum. Seems a lot of folks don't like where the manufacturer decides to mount to toilet paper holder and so later move it on their own, leaving behind holes in the wall or cabinets where moisture can penetrate...
I like the steps. Also love the patios!
Congrats Myles! Yall keep up the great work.
great video with myles - love the floor plan
Now that back patio on a fifth wheel is a fantastic idea!
I absolutely LOVE this!!
I like the sofa across from the TV because you can cuddle with someone and you can make it into a bed and then watch TV in bed. Win win 👍
K-Z trailers are great! Our first one was a K-Z and honestly it was built better than our current Jayco.
@Myles RV’s
I found you and your wife last night when I viewed a video similar to this one. Congratulations on your following!! My son is about your age and just started working in RV sales too. Best of luck to you!!
This is an awesome colab. Great video guys.
Currently living FT in our RV. This would be my DREAM RV. ❤️❤️ ❤️ it! Agree that choice of stairs to the loft is definitely not ideal. Wider stair tread ladder to me would be preferable.
❤ The back patio option is also on my WISH LIST. I’d convert room with bunk to a private office area or remove furniture for off-season clothing/ walk in closet.
Love you Myles you need have over to the ranch sometime. For stairs for the midbunk ADD rock climbing holds to the wall above so clam to the last step
You guys should totally do more reviews together. So much knowledge between the 2 of you guys it's awesome.
Love the RV and caught that 116 tattoo that Miles has, very nice.
How exciting to see a new design and then to see the 2 of you do you want together. Again, having two of you give opinions right away makes it real. Would there be such a thing as a sectional type couch that you could put there and then be able to separate the 2 chairs, and have it become two separate recliners and then the middle piece become a footstool and it can move over to the other couch. About the sink, I am one that does prefer a double sink, so you can have dishes, maybe soaking in the smaller section of the sink, and the larger pans can fit in the bigger section. I'd like to see the Pantry door with frosty glass and the word Pantry on it. The idea of having the spare bunk room it's kind of neat but we also would prefer A 1/2 bath. To consider this being lived in full time, I would not want the fireplace, although it's ideal for heating and ombiance,I'd still rather have more drawers for storage. Was there storage under bed? I do like bed side table lower but not right on top of the bed, you know? Nice counter space in bathroom and able to hand towels over toilet is OK, I guess. But no TP holder?! Like the coat closet by door but need area for muddy shoes. The carpeted steps isn't ideal... kids need something to hold onto while climbing up and down, so need different steps. I like the colors in there and well, as we know, can't have everything or please everyone. Thanx for the video!
The big last step offers the perfect transition into the bunk area because the low ceiling.
I owned a 43 KZ toyhauler. It was built well and had many standard items that would be upgrades on others
Getting two reviews I one!!! So cool 😎
That mid bunk would make a great office and/or gamer room
Thank you for this JD. We have owned our 382MBQ and love it. Ours 2021 has two recliners instead of the couch. You didn’t mention the dish washer
Very cool floor plan, I’ve never had a single sink, not sure about it. Love the patio, the step is a huge miss for the unit, an accident waiting to happen. Great job guys!!
I WANT THIS RV!!❤
I like the general floor plan and the back patio. Mid bunk is always nice. The loft for me is storage but that last step up is to high. Good tour, thanks
We have had 2 Forest River's with the deck. One Sierra and its sister Sandpiper. We would have bought a 3rd had they not stopped making them. Loved having a deck without it being a toy hauler.
Glad you two ran into each other! My favorite RV guys!!
I understand the reason behind the steps to the loft. Kids would just skip over the top. To them, it's a game!
Nice patio, but I would prefer if you could get it without a bunkhouse.
You can. Look up the KZ Durango Gold models. They have a great layout with the patio but no midbunk.
The patio concept is really cool, but I think putting it on the dining/living room slide with sliding glass door at the table similar to what Open Range did with one of their front living bumper pull models 10 years ago would absolutely kill it!
Love the patio!
I would love to have enough $ and buy this incredible RV, and taking my boys for a weekend camping around us (ky). Great eye candy product! kudos
I think those steps going up to the loft are brilliant. You can't stand up that close to the ceiling, and it forces you to sit down and craw in.
I'm guessing that weird step is a result of the low ceiling clearance in the space. You're probably already running into the ceiling on the middle step. I'm also guessing the interior space of the room below dictates a bit of the design.
I would think so too after you mentioning that. Thanks for your input and thanks for watching!
Like the patio. Large single sink for big pots and pans with a sloped drying rack on the counter. I'd put a reclining love seat if that's not already there. Nice mid-bunk design. I understand the tall top riser, one would lift up on the floor to get in. Less chance of hitting one's head on the ceiling. I'd prefer a queen bed with side cabinet design over a king. Overall a nice looking rig.
Love this!!!!
Kind of upset JD that you didn't mention the kids doing homework in the bunk area. But this RV is perfect for full time living for sure, love it
Nice video you two.
You guys work well together.
very nice Rig.
The sink is a little inconvenient.
I like the patio idea, but if the RV is at an RV park or resort it might take up too much space to use. Plus you would be so close to your neighbor. I love the mid bunk plan. So glad they are making rvs with cpaps in mind!
Yo JD, it's called a dish drying rack 😂
Unsurprisingly +1 for single basin sink fan here
Great video, that back patio is a game-changer! Though I agree, that huge top loft step is unusable for getting down and much more dangerous than a ladder where you can feel for the top step before you start going too far down
I love the mid bunk, I would like to see more.
i like the steps. kids will learn, kids are smart. i hate ladders.
I like the steps up to the loft and the large top step makes sense. You can’t stand up in the loft so you either crawl on your knees from the top step to the bed, or you sit your butt down on the top step and scoot over to the bed, same thing getting out. Personally I think it might be safer and easier.
I liked this one.
Both of you two had great views on the RV outlook. Agree with the loft area stairs are a bit dangerous the last step. Who designed it wasn't thinking about kids to adults going up or down in a safe manner.
I'm a Hugh's fan of Myles and hid wife also those two theater seats should shivel I love ❤️ the floor plan mid bunk and patio just rhaf last step needs working on
I love it!!
🥰 absolutely beautiful thank you for showing, I'm looking for one myself but I am disabled, I am in a wheelchair also I need to have a conversation for a lift because I wanted to go full-time, and UA-camr as well
Best of luck to you Myles
We tried out some mid bunks and my kids (all under 10) had problem coming back down the ladders from the loft. steps are preferred for us for sure!
I agree! Thanks for watching
I do really like the KZ Durango Golds like this. They've been making 'em for a few years now. That back patio is one of my dream features that isn't on pretty much all the floorplans/types we look for. We don't need/want a big heavy toy hauler, which are always way too short on true bed accommodations anyways. Even less so if it's a TT-TH. I've never gotten a chance to look at KZs but in videos and images they do seem to be a cut above most mass market 5Ws without going whole-hog into Riverstones, DRVs, etc.