1970 Black Women & Men Debate Their Relationships On TV - Pre Oprah Winfrey
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- Опубліковано 24 лип 2024
- This 1970 informal discussion appeared on national television - PBS - and was part of a series of television specials that presented the Black American perspective from a Black point of view. The executive producer and director was Bill Greaves. Although most of the production crew were Black I worked for Bill Greaves on a regular basis as a freelance cameraman on some of his projects.
The reporter seen in this program worked for the Chicago Daily Defender, America's largest Black newspaper at the time. She was reporting on the emergence of the "new Black woman”. It was a time when Black Americans were talking about Black consciousness, Black is beautiful, Black power, and about the relationships between Black men and Black women - about the Black family structure and the values that men and women felt.
The film team set up a discussion between Black men and Black women that I found absolutely fascinating today in terms of what has happened to the Black family.
As many of my subscribers know, I focus my UA-cam presentations on several issues that were taking place in America in the 1950s, the 1960s and the 1970s and 80s and 90s. In 1970, so much of the work that I was asked to do and was asked of other independent documentary filmmakers, involved the evolving vocal Black culture. Many described it as a new "racial pride."
As an American young person and a working independent documentary filmmaker back then, I found myself dealing with these subjects frequently. I never developed a strong political or social point of view because it wasn't my culture and I often found myself more of a witness then someone directly involved.
This conversation between black men and black women is fascinating to me and I hope that it provokes an interesting dialogue in your comments when you see it.
If you found this of interest I ask you to support my efforts to continue to present films like this by clicking the Super Thanks button below the video screen.
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fascinating, black Americans have been publicly debating their relationship dynamic since the early days of mass media great find David
And "they've" been paying attention.
@@kevinking5406 Right, exactly!
Round and round
@@kevinking5406 - why
Way before this too
We are having the same conversations in 2023....woooow😂😂😂😂😂😂
Like…. It’s honestly crazy. When will it end?
Wow so women were forced to work outside of the home, and do the majority of house work even back then. So there was never a time where this demographic of women and children were provided for and treated like the delicate sex. Heartbreaking
I love how they sound so intelligent with a very good vocabulary.
Elaine Brown should have been there. She destroyed that femcentric reporter
Yeah, who was apparently successful in infiltrating total anti-intellectualism to young black americans?
We've been having the 50/50 debate for a hunnid years 😂
50/50 is never gonna be that way. Women want special treatment like not pumping the gas, taking out the trash all while saying I'm not gonna cook or respect you as a man because I work too. Even if you provide them with the traditional lifestyle they will still have the same attitude and add on that you help with her half. Their deal is so one sided that its just insulting.
@R.O.T.C._SEEM Taking out the trash takes all of 30 seconds...pumping gas takes 3 minutes MAX...stop acting like yall are doing herculean tasks here lol
@@alexisc7565 As a black man even I admit this debate sounds pathetic
@@SunShine-vo9uyand what exactly do y'all own?
@@SunShine-vo9uywhat's statistics show that black women earn less than black men in America today y'all just want everybody to be a millionaire everybody can't have a millionaire just like everybody can't have it Beyonce
The more things change, the more they stay the same. 🌹🌹🌹🌹
Tommy Curry is finally changing this
This was some interesting video of some information we needed. Thanks for sharing the video David Film maker 🎥🎞️
Fascinating look back into conversations that i know nothing about. Thank you David❤
Thank you so much for these documentaries
And now we are 50+ years later....I wonder what the discussion would sound like now. Thanks for sharing.
It's #SYSBM
No more discussions 🛩✈️🛫
Sex tourism is not the answer.
Fifty years later, unfortunately, the conversation is the same. Therefore, the Black Man has no other alternative other than to move on. These women just don’t get it man!….They just don’t get it!
@@Andrejr316 What does that mean? Honest question?
Yes, Mr. Hoffman this vital film makes so much sense now (today) world. This wasn't talked about growing up as a young child. Now in my forties I can see how the husband role is express without a negative conflict in relationship. I had the slightest clue on the subject, just empty advice. My grandparents stayed married and it was always to the end. They kept the family unit together and no excuses. I grew up with strong values and we had to play outside when grown-ups talked. Now I know the subjects.
Pre Oprah Winfrey says alot, huh?
My queen
Yup my thoughts exactly. You can actually hear from the male perspective and experience.
I don't understand this term "Pre-oprah Winfrey". Could you pls expatiate....
PS: I'm not from USA.
@@iktheboy7594 before Oprah Winfrey started broadcasting her talk shows
@@kaleidoset2569
The guy in the video was like, “My father and his father had to put up with this sh**.” 🤭
Thank you for this 🙏🏾
I love a great discussion better than a staged discussion. Thank you David ❤️
Moynihan Report? Shame few people will ever read that
Great discussion? Them ninjas was copping pleas and The women sounded more logical
...the more things change, the more they stay the same. Great video👍👍
This is yet another very interesting clip and it just opens up all kinds of avenues of thought and things that are hard to discuss but I am grateful for all of the work that people like you have done that have enabled me to study all of this. It is truly a gift to people like me whose whole lives have been but a quest for truth and reason.
Yes! 🙌
@@addieblanchard2228Shame they speak of matriarchy but that there is no mention of Robert Staples
Black Men and Women need each other...a lot more will be accomplished whn United. 🌹❤️
We must respect one another has human beings. Doesn’t necessarily mean all 👨🏾& 👩🏾 should be together
Really? Black women have been saying for decades that they are strong and independent, but they are struggling. In fact, black men do NOT need black women. Black men can go somewhere else and find a woman that is willing to fall in line.
@@robertlunderwood That's not all of us my dear, can't speak for the rest but i absolutely need a Man, always have, always will. 🫶🏾
@@indigobeauty1 But you are the minority. I'm talking about the majority.
Nah it's over with, let it burn & fix itself!
This was a really great conversation. Rings true in modern times as well.
Black men and woman been fighting since the 60s. Look at the old videos it never stopped. We probably been fighting longer than that
What's left out of the conversation is the effect of political policies that have effected the black family. Redlining, block busting, debt peonage, drugs being brought in, schools and communities being destroyed and under funded, economic infrastructure being dismantled, mass incarceration, economic depravation, mental health being unaddressed, inadequate housing, striving for white acceptance, and so much more. I think in the modern era you can look back using this Internet and see what happened but only a few of us will address it in this context.
thank you for pointing out all these important factors 🙌🏾
The main problem, people want to yell from emotion without actually looking at any history, or getting adequate focus on the big picture. The country wants the black man eliminated...period.
Agreed.
"drugs being brought in" And they magically sell themselves & force their users with this same magic. "mass incarceration" because most were innocent right? "striving for white acceptance" as you call whites supremacists, racists & slavers all your life. That's one way to strive...lol
Holy fuck a person with a brain.
I’m tired of the vocal minority of my people acting like a bunch of morons for White entertainment, while completely ignoring the very real systems that forced us to spew vitriol at the other party from the very beginning; all while neither party are at fault for any of this.
Respectability politics, seeking White acceptance and the desperation for upward mobility are ALL creations of White supremacy perpetuated by Black against each other since the beginning.
When Black people finally realize that it’s okay to blame and hold accountable the White collective for their contributions to our never-ending suffering, then we’ll see progress.
No matter what race… misogyny is everywhere.
The word you are looking for is misandry.
Colorism & Misogyny justifies lesbianism & bisexuality in black women.
Keep that same energy when the bill comes
@@nickjones3860and all the bills are paid by black women who out-earn, out-graduate black men and are the most to open businesses. Keep smoking your weed and sitting on your ass😂😂😂
A piece of history!
Ah interesting this was before my time but I look at videos like this and just listen I over hear these conversations for years as a kid.
I'm in my early 30's and sadly we even going through this . To me, I believe media and just the government together takes part in the division
OMG. He's saying this in 1970.
The part of the video showing the black man with the light blue shirt on is actually from 1968 (it shows it on the original video).
I love every millisecond of this!!
Thanks David Hoffman film maker for sharing, I appreciate it. Good story and video. This was before Oprah. Lol
Change the clothes and the video quality and this could’ve been a stream from yesterday. I think 100 years from now they’ll see all these youtube videos from today and the conversation will still be the exact same
Only that 100 years from now bw would have achieved their goal/fantasy of complete separation and assimilation to the host I'm sorry to say.
Lol today no one speaks proper English and it’s a 70% they are not married.
@@QuadriviumNumbers proving once and for all the fallacy of a matriarchy being conducive to a thriving non-dysfunctional culture.
It's a little more ratchetness in it but you're absolutely right
@@craigpate3317 thats true. Goofy ass pastel colored lace fronts and lamb chop eyelashes weren’t invented yet
#SYSBM
The Moynihan Report is just as true today as it was 50 years ago.
And with that "The Man in the House Rule" Act.
Facts 💯
We deserve so much better.
youre supposed to do the saving of your women and community
@@FirstSkyWalker the Moynihan report clearly states black men didn’t want to be responsible and welfare was the result.
This is so dam true til this day.
Thanks David💕✌️
Onward and upward to a million subscribers!
I'll keep that as a mantra everything on UA-cam involved with my channel has radically slowed down including new subscribers.
David Hoffman filmmaker
@@DavidHoffmanFilmmaker you deserve it more than other YT'ers that I won't mention by name. Your content is actually useful and valuable to society.
Best of luck to you, Mr. Hoffman!
Same in 60 years ❤good content
This is a very interesting topic that could be discuss in today society. as I was watching this the television show "Julia" staring Diahann Carrol who played a nurse and a widowed single mother raising her son it ran from 1968 to 71 It is notable for being the first weekly series to star an African American woman in a non-stereotypical role. Previous television series featured African American lead characters, but the characters were usually servants. thanks for this one David Hoffman.
Thanks!
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If you are married and your husband does not pray at night and/or early morning before the sun come up; then that man will not be able to lead properly and cover the family as he should. Because everything that is in the physical realm first comes from the spirit realm. When men slept the enemy plants his seeds. And the bible says, we wrestle not against flesh and blood but demons. And if that man do not pray and fast then the house has been compromised. The man is the head of the family and if the head is not seeking God everyday; then the wife and children is in trouble. Men ought to always pray and not faint.
Even this man's wife is interrupting him. You cant make this ish up
Makes a change from the beginning of the video 😂😂
Grown children
It’s funny how this was 1970 yet these are the same women who created these “boss chicks/masculine women” and these feminine men. And now the year is 2023 and it’s really the same conversations happening today rather or be in the home or on podcast (social media). 🙄😩🤷🏾♀️🤦🏾♀️ we’ve gotten no where
The main reason that we haven't gotten anywhere is because these types of discussions are cherry picked to perpetuate confusion and division. Men and women pointing fingers at each other and blaming each other. But no one ever asks "why"? Why is this happening, what's the cause of all of this and what's the end result going to be? The people who do ask those questions are never put on TV.
@@renzo7503 well if we think about this and this is just my opinion on this. But really the divide started to happen when women decided to accept section 8 housing and food stamps. And then of course came the higher education for women. Which formed this type of mentality that they didn’t “need a man” for anything. And it’s just got passed down from one generation to the next. And of course let’s factor in the drugs that were dropped off in “black neighborhoods” that were once thriving before the divide. Again that’s just my opinion.
@@renzo7503 also the men that the women were choosing to lay down with to have these kids. Not letting the men be men. It’s just really a damn mess. A mess I don’t think we will be able to clean up honestly.
@@HIWWPI_2024 I agree with you 100%. Everything you mentioned was put in place by the government. I've yet to see a nationally syndicated talk show with black men and women discussing the origins and affects of those programs. No one ever asks what will the result be of financially and educationally incentivizing the women while leaving the men out in the cold. All of these things are war tactics and I'm not being dramatic when I say that either. And no, we cannot clean this up because we are powerless in this country. We are at the mercy of tyrants and it will not end well for us.
@@renzo7503 😌 unfortunately you’re right it won’t end well for us. We definitely are powerless. It makes me upset, sad, definitely angry. The ish out black men and women have falling for. We once seemed like we stuck together a few generations ago. Some how the black family strayed and all these tactics like you say were thrown at us. Definitely a war tactic for sure. Our people are even killing each other and I know they love that. 🤦🏾♀️ I’ve recently been doing a lot of research because you know in school we aren’t taught are real hidden history. We have to dig it up on our own.
Beautiful video
Just subscribed notifications bell on!!!
A scene that cements the epitome of "you're damned if you do and you're damned if you don't."
(especially being able to view this from a directly connected "future".)
Boom.
I see you found it too @Roghish DA Buildmonger. Is that your uncle @ 3:20?
Black men were screwed out the gate.
@@brichmond007listen to the Amos Wilson lecture
Black male female relationships
the sweet voice of the announcer
This was a generational pattern.. it's now in the last few years this mindset has changed.
This was the beginning of what we have now. The dysfunction was programed
And nothing has changed
1:47 that's called selective hearing.
Black men and woman been fighting since the 60s. Look at the old videos it never stopped. We probably been fighting longer than that
6:30
Perfect definition of Parental Authority.
Peace!
\o/
The more things change ....
The more they stay the same.
2023 and I’m wondering exactly how much has actually changed…
We were setup to still be having this conversation. Lordy why can’t we just work together and not make it a power struggle
I'm a black, married woman (41 years) who grew up in the 60s and I do not and cannot relate to this conversation. I believe it depends on those who were more apart of "the movement" as opposed to traditional family. I also know liberation was not just an issue btwn black man and black woman but white couples as well where the traditional white man was uncomfortable with the wife liberating herself to be equal and breakaway from society's standards of traditional family. However I must say that I don't deny that many black families were pulled apart from the day they were forced on this land so, that no doubt would cause complications for a black male who had to deal with immasculation, degradation and hate for centuries. Ms. Long Island
Summarized perfectly
Thank you so much for your thoughtful and well rounded response. ❤ it’s refreshing seeing someone not resort to sexism and instead the internal struggles the individual will face/feel when dealing with societal change and progress.
The government had a plan in the 1950 to push more woman into the workforce. Unfortunately black woman are the cheese as well and like the white woman put careers over family. Nothing wrong with woman having careers, but the idea of “I can do it too” put a wedge between us instead of just simply joining to incomes and living well.
@@anigah read that again.
@Dee Mari
*”I don’t deny that many black families were pulled apart from…”*
What you’re denying is that there are a segment of women who are masculine, mean, unbearable to be around, bad attitudes, and or don’t know when to shut up.
The change of the work environment and women gaining “equality” has given men, especially black men, their freedom. Men are no longer under environmental and social pressure to marry women that they can’t stand.
Does anyone know,, where this family is today??
Beautifully Said..AMEN 🤗💕🕯💐
This when it started
Fire! Truth!
People can only be kept in cages they refuse to see.
Wow!!!!!
The more things change the more they remain the same.
If black women speak their truth whether you agree or not ...society says they are bitter. If black woman wants to get a career....society says she's about to join the feminism rally and say "She doesn't need a man...she's a boss now. In Reality this sister is trying create a better life for herself & possible future family. If black women say they want a guy that has alot of money. She is condemned & called a gold digger. Also she is made to feel ashamed for wanting a guy to financially take care of her. Because their own people will say " See she thinks she's too good to marry a guy that has a regular job. But in reality black women been dating guys with no jobs, guys who get a job when they feel like it for years..Maybe the black woman is trying raise her standards and have a husband that has money and stability. Also, most black women have been the head of their household for years and raising the kids by herself. The reason for her becoming the head of household 98% of the time is by force. The black man (not talking about all black men) leaves her & go create kids in other households or has to get on welfare so she can survive & the rules for welfare back then (not sure about now)can't have a spouse living with you while on welfare. So the black woman in this situation has to create a masculine mentality in order to survive in this white man's society and take care of the kids. Now let's now analyze how the white woman is treated and judged differently in similar circumstances.. Now when white women speak their truth they are never called "bitter women" instead they have groups to help them.....Feminism & ME TOO Movement where the white woman is always classified as victims(doesn't if she's telling the truth or not. Her being a white woman alone in white society means she is the image of truth). If she has to lead her household, the white woman isn't looked at as aggressive...She looked as again the victim. If the white woman decides she only wants to date or marry a man with money....Nothing is said about her being a gold digger because her marrying a guy that has alot of money is considered normal in society.
the key word is FOR HERSELF
@@richardbyfield1918
🫵🏽😒Selective reading 📖much?! 🤣
The commenter wrote,
”…for herself 🗣️👉🏾& possible future family.” 🗣️FAMILY!!!
The same society condemning you is the same society empowering you. Don't you get it? That's how you and others like you stay in your place. As long as the system keeps you in this ebb and flow of abuse. You'll pledge your allegiance for eternity. Until you stop. That's the battle. For many of us.
@@ScumDogMFhe is an insecure male bitter towards black women who figured out how to have success before the black man. Black men like this wish to be coddled for their terrible behavior (r kelly, jon majors…) and black women have had enough. Keep moving on. They will not see it but stay rooted in their ego like a venus fly trap, waiting for any gullible woman to fall for their religious manosphere rhetoric and turn them into a pickme/servant. A successful woman is seen as “out of order” and they will try to guilt u for being successful. And trust me, if u were to surrender your life and aspirations to them they WILL NOT protect u and barely provide for u in the way they claim to, in fact they will then blame u for wanting better or asking for anything.
This is ABUSIVE behavior 101. Guilt. Isolation. Neglect. Blame. Dont fall for their foolish talk, keep moving. Love is out there, its a big world
@@richardbyfield1918 and men be forself more often than yall care to talk about....we have watched fathers walk away from there family and when a woman has to take of HERSELF and whatever child is left behind this is what yall do.....for herself smh are u fcking kidding me....the whole community has been in survival mode since before and after jim and reconstruction .....all of us need and have to wrk to take of OURSELVES BEFORE WE CAN TAKE CARE OF ANYONE ELSE ....i think yall forget that
What happened to us 😢 we use to be Great! Even with the minor problems we had at the time we was almost there.
7:54 Let me cut you off again 😂😂😂
Absolutely enriching and uplifting video and discussions. I just want to add, contrary to what the lady at the very end said, "stand up with strength and say I am proud, I am black", No, in the words of my father, completely detach yourself from such attachments like blackness, or whiteness, or this and that..., in fact, when every you catch yourself using the phrase "I'am" be extra cautious as to what to say next. Learn very deeply about who you are on all levels, for me for example, I hav always believed I am a spiritual being and never grounded myself on such fragile ideas like race, color, money, education or what have you. My brothers and sisters, or fathers and mothers, we are in fact the dearly, deeply, and endless beloved children's of GOD.
I am in agreement with the man who said the family culture heritage history roles of the family members that has been hidden for more than 400 years should be practiced at home
Clearly this conversation/debate has been going on for a long time. Well, I can happily say that it's coming to a close. Black men have finally found their balls and recognized that we don't need to debate our woman for anything. We are the buyers, not them. We dictate terms, not them. Take your talents to South Beach gentlemen. There's no need for struggle love. Find a market that suits your budget and live.
I agree. America is no longer a White & Black country. Are ancestors may have had to deal with the BS, but Black men in this current generation do not. You can either date/marry out with the growing number of immigrant women in America, or get on a plane & leave permanently. This conversation is definitely on its last leg.
@@roberthicks5550 Absolutely.
It takes two to tango.
@@Alluringspace SIGN language doesn't work anymore. Nice try tho.
@ I would not want my partner to make all the decisions, I expect them to TALK WITH ME LIKE THE PARTNERSHIP WE'RE IN, and have the final say TOGETHER. Unless one of us are going to do something dangerous, then the other person has the final say. If not, we decide together. You can't just dictate every term like that without hearing what they have to say about it. Can't stand dictators, who are you to do such a thing.
Half a Century later?¿?... 🤯 Smdh 🤦🏽♂️🤷🏽♂️
This eye opening Black Woman were crazy back then too!!!!
@@3namechangezalowdevry90day7 If he was white do you think she should "assume her role"?
Beautiful, well balanced couple. 💕
I DID agree with one thing she said: We gotta take ours by FORCE!!
What does force look like will you not be prosecuted as criminals during or afterwards? That is a psycho mind, wanting to be forced just to behave properly.
@@little95 hey! 700+ years of being on bottom will make u psycho
Right, you don't bargain with devils hell bent on destroying you.
If these people are still alive today, I would love to hear if they believe things have changed for the better in the decades since and, if so, how....
Nothing has changed.
I'll give this a like DH cue u asked
2:35 facts Till this day in the 2020s
Castrated? The black women were being blamed for things not their fault even back then.
That's because most people are not astute enough to see the entire picture. The system weaponized you using your natural ambition to succeed.
Facts!
Apparently nothing at all in life is bw's fault. Facts!
That’s the goal. It’s always been the strategy to have Black men and women in anger, hating and blaming each other rather than addressing the attacks flying in from the outside on both of them. This designed tactic never ever gets old.
You obviously didn’t get the metaphorical reason why that was said
Im glad I give up on finding a husband.
Now I can focus on myself ❤
I’m glad I gave up on having a black husband been married to my Italian (WM) for 10yrs and have never been more stress free,loved,protected and respected .
Woman in search of a Man? And yet Baulked at the Moynihan report. Double speak.
They made their choice let the benefits and consequences come their way.
Well...
The system has designed it this way from the Family courts down. It's designed to tear families apart to fund prison industrial complex and other alphabet agencies that only survive with a revolving door of broken people
Respect Mr. Hoffman. This is fascinating. The late great Kevin Samuels called it. Those brothers tried explaining to those sisters what their natural role is in the black family, as it is, in any other. What it has always been traditionally, a wife and mother. Anytime a woman says to a man he has to be reprogrammed on what she needs so she'll submit and fall in line, shows she has lost her ability to take her man or husband's lead. As far as she's concerned her ability to cooperate is conditional. Some blackwomen fell for the banana in the tailpipe. i.e. feminism, government handouts and the attainment of an American dream, that was never really obtainable in the first place, and it most certainly was never meant for people of color anyway. Whether intentional or not it effectively did what chattle slavery and Jim Crow couldn't. It destroyed the black family structure for generations to come and has continued to this day. This rift between blackmen and blackwomen is being discussed in our community more than ever now, because it's out of control and continuing to further separate us as a community. Other communities are experiencing some form of this as well. That's modern women for you. This interview was recorded in 1970. The beginning of the end for the traditional family structure!
You said much of what I was going to say....
@@RaiderClarke312 I'm just glad that there are people who understand, just how serious the consequences of this behavior is in the black community. ✌🏼🙏🏼
What ? Weren't black families forcefully separated during slavery ?
@@J7pat7 nope. Check out Dr Thomas Sowell on the black family in slavery. Most black families were torn apart in the 1960s due to welfare.
Great points, sir 👏🏾
#SYSBM
I appreciate all you do, David. I do however wish black Americans didn’t have such a history of broadcasting our internal discussions for others to consume. Certain things are just not everyone’s business.
What? This was on TV back then as a documentary? Or do you think this was shown just in the black people’s homes? Wow!!! I can’t believe some of the Bullshyt . But let this documentary showed black men in a bad light. Then you wouldn’t made such a comment…
I'm sorry Ms Jackson. But this documentary is for real. It shows us on which group desperately needs to take accountability for their actions.
@@turquoisepurple7sky151 And Eve was the one that led Adam to the serpent.
@@turquoisepurple7sky151 Eve being Adams helpmate was not because of the consequences of her actions. Eve the woman is supposed to be the help mate of Adam from the very jump. And the higher power have given them instructions to anywhere in the garden except for the tree of knowledge. Eve disobey his order and at the same time deceived Adam into eating the forbidden fruit. The fruit of knowledge for BW was welfare, child support and government housing. All this in exchange of removing the BM out of the picture. I don't have to go to a chain series of events to explain what the results are. You can see if for yourself.
john jacob - Eve didn’t have to go find Adam to lead him. He was right there. (Genesis 3: 6) All Eve had to do was hand the fruit to him and he ate it, too.
Francis at the end was not the man in that marriage. He got cut off so many times, he is more mild mannered. And they think it's a good idea to pull kids out of school to force them to only hear about a set of viewpoints that they deem is appropriate, which sounds like a bad idea. The black family was doomed because the white man's system exploited black women, turning them against the black man and keeping the whole race from being able to develop holistically. It's not anyone's fault, not the black men or women or even white people. The situation is what it is. Ultimately there likely won't be any positive improvement in the black community. Francis doesn't want to go out and be dominant in the workplace but black women don't mind.
This bs at some point you be responsible for your choices. My grandmother fought in the civil rights movement and said really this had been going on since 65’. BW knew what the “white man” was doing and they still drunk the kook-aid naw I anit going .
All that to blame the black man in the end an let white folks who screwed us both off the hook. Yes I read it.
Feminism!
Exactly. This was the beginning. Now 53 years later look at what Gloria Steinem racist Ass did. Definitely got played
Cancerous
What constitutes feminism?
Why did she keep cutting that man off like he wasn’t well-spoken
she was strong and independent and saw him as beneath her.
@@vg1024They still believe that today.
No ratchet for the wicked!!
Before the 1970's, how long did it take for this programming to take root, such deep roots. Since at least 1970, it only got worse, and is only gonna get worse with only one promise in sight, Death😮
They JUMPED RIGHT ON THAT "YOU'RE INSECURE SHIT". These women are grandmother's now. Listen to this shit
That's because they knew damn well what they were participating in. Emasculation for pay.
@@turquoisepurple7sky151 Ok
@@kensmechanicalaffair emasculation for DEPENDENCE.
I’m NOT giving my PERSONAL OPINION, I’ll will let you hear it for yourself. REMEMBER I was born September 25, 1972, so these would be MY PARENTS as they were COMING OUT OF DESEGREGATION .
This is 1970.
This was when we still had a high marriage rate. But the new black woman was emerging
Yes the boss chicks who birthed more boss chicks AKA Masculine women. Now the marriage stats are down. We have masculine women and feminine men. Whew the roles have reversed.
But a high and increasing divorce rate by this time
@@HIWWPI_2024pickme spotted
Val was in medium cool
The race that’s forever living in The Twilight Zone. 🤦🏾
Forcefully huh... toxic
Problem with lotta black folks now is they focused more on looks rather then common knowledge. Guys mad at women nails and wigs like they women. BW not given enough game to leave the WM system
Black men havent left the white man’s system. Yall literally depend on him to provide every aspect of your lives. Yall really be wylin 😂
These women were LOUD and talking aggressive/hand in the face, talking OVER others even waaayy back then 😂
Did they say aks back then or ASK?
Proof that the passport bros should have been existed ☠️☠️☠️☠️☠️☠️
It's proof that there's a problem and they choose to run away from it.
@Mr.President sir its NOT their problem to solve. So the "rejects" have to solve the pookie and ray-ray problem, and the women who dont hold themselves accountable. Yea, you can take that burden on if you want to 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
@@onice33 No, sir. Lions handle problems, sheep run to safety. I don't expect a squirrel to take down an elephant...so you right..
@@kensmechanicalaffair 😂😂😂🤷🏾♂️🤷🏾♂️
@@kensmechanicalaffair lmaoooo 🤣😂 yo stop
Kevin Samuels you were right!!
Not on everything.
@@thedarkknight4956 majority of the things and was very influential. Don’t nit pick
@@UptownAlleyFashion naaw I don't agree, but if y'all were raised by single mothers I can see why some of y'all follow him.
So what are WE going to do? It’s time to stop talking.
At one point it was said that the research shows that the black community is a matriarchy was wrong and future research will prove that that was incorrect, 40 years later no research has shown such a thing.
De Chantilly!🧐✝️
Maybe in the black lower class. In the black upper class it's a patriarchy.
@@encouraginglyauthentic43Yeah, historically but the milineals and gen X it might be a different.
@@sherrisolomon8673 Nah the upper class are conservative.
Sadly this conversation is still happening even in my generation today but WAY more toxic.
I have to REITERATE this, these are your GRANDPARENTS & GREAT GRANDPARENTS but THEY ARE MY PARENTS who raised me. So THINK DEEPLY on what I’m saying, they were trying to find their NITCH, coming out of desegregation WITHOUT LOSING the essence of who they were as a FAMILY & as MALE/FEMALE in a economy that for scores of years denied them the opportunity. This was CULTIVATED IN ALL THE SEEDS they were bringing into the WORLD. THEY ARE GONE NOW, and we are taking their place.
Sometimes, it's so difficult to watch videos of past gender discussions, as you get a lot of tired sexist takes in the comments (mostly bots/trolls) that rather go back to a time with less rights out of some delusional idea it'll make their lives "better" with no regards for anyone else.
Most of the only things, I want from history to affect today are fashions and higher taxes for the rich. sigh
I would've got my #passport back then...
Getting your passport doesn't solve anything! Everywhere you go there you are!