Ellen Fisher Teaches You How To Endanger Your Children
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- Опубліковано 29 жов 2018
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UPDATE: My follow-up video: ua-cam.com/video/EC4R9CbPXns/v-deo.html
In Ellen's video "Death By Veganism" she briefly mentions taking b12 (shows an image of a b12 supplement at about 7:04 with the text "this is the b12 we take"). So that's good! Unfortunately, if you search "ellen fisher supplements" or "ellen fisher b12", the first things that comes up are the "Do Vegans Need to Supplement" video where she says she only supplements for b12 while pregnant; the FAQ on her website, where she says she and her family only supplement with barley grass powder; and the "Starting my baby on solid foods" blog post, where she says in a comment that Elvis does not receive a b12 supplement.
These are older sources, but they are the first things you find, AND some of them she has referenced in much more recent content (like linking to the blog post on a video from last year). I hope she will consider removing this stuff from her channel and website.
Unfortunately, b12 is not the only issue with her channel. The diet and anti-vax approach is absolutely dangerous. As others have pointed out, she's also anti-sunscreen. From her FAQ page: "The sun is not here to harm us and is not this evil force in the world that we have to do everything we can to stay “protected” from it, in contrast to what the media and sunscreen brands would like us believe...Getting burned, though, is unhealthy and definitely should be avoided. We do not wear any sunscreen or put anything on our skin when we go in the sun. We stay at the beach for a healthy amount of time, generally 1.5-2.5 hours, and head back home before burning ever becomes a possibility." There is no such thing as a healthy tan. Again, this is unacceptable.
I get that people are upset because they like Ellen. She's nice, I get it! But her advice is terrible and if you raise your children this way, you will be putting them in danger. Nutrient deficiencies, skin cancer, and THE FUCKING MEASLES are no joke.
Poor tanned babies :( My grandparents lived in the tropics and did not believe in sunscreen. My parents had melanomas removed quite young, have wrinkled and sun damaged skin and still hold a grudge against them.
Unnatural Vegan: I just posted a comment about Ellen Fisher and other vegan UA-cam moms supplementing with something very dangerous and it is all recent, please check it out, it has been troubling me for a few weeks now. Thank you.
Wait are you serious? I've been following her for a long time and hand no idea she was crazy. Damnit.
swnist I always wondered why it was so negative to have wrinkles... just a cosmetic issue?
If kids aren't vaxxed ,they probably aren't accepted into any reputable physicians office. To say that her kids are healthy most likely comes from superficial observations.
Which may be why so many UA-cam vegans homeschool.. because schools typically don't take unvaxxed children. Nor do most colleges. The college I attended requires shot records and whatever ones you miss you have to get. I had to get 6 because of this. So if kids aren't vaccinated they may have to get them to attend college.
Her intentions are good. Anti vaxxers are almost always middle class or higher class citizens. It's like they don't have enough problems so they have to find something to focus their energy on.
I don't believe anyone should take advice from someone who isn't a pediatrician, who went to school to know this stuff and who knows the bigger picture.
Idk if Ellen Fisher does the whole Amber necklaces and all but it's like the UA-cam vegan moms all have a checklist they have to do to get their hippy aesthetic , which requires Amber teething necklace, minimalism, law of attraction, cosleeping and spirulina. Lol.
Don't even get me started on those freaking necklaces. Seriously they are a strangulation hazard you risk for the off chance they may help teething pain. For the superficial pleasure of looking at a cute baby with a cute hippy necklace. I mean come on people .
Edit: also for them to be able to attend college they're going to have to get vaccinated anyways . . And get them all at once then.
Judging from the comments, it's exactly like you said at the end of this video: people like Ellen so much that they are either unwilling or unable to think reasonably about what exactly it is that she promotes. And yes I agree that the title of this video is harsh and not in line with Ellen's intentions, BUT i also happen to think it is 100% true. Especially when it comes to not vaccinating. Point blank PERIOD: not vaccinating DIRECTLY endangers not only her kids but also the kids around her children. And that is NOT an exaggeration or clickbait: it's a science-based fact, and to say that Swayze's title is clickbait is ironically not only incredibly unfair given its absolute validity, but also shows people's own ignorance to how vaccines work and also how their choices directly affect those around them. It's truly shocking to see how unwilling people are to believe that their personal choices could affect people around them, and in a community of "vegans" no less. shouldn't you be the first to realize that your choices don't just affect you?!
The good news: whilst you guys are spreading hate and judgement she just got close to 700k followers😍
or, and hear me out, unnatural vegan's whole channel is based on shitting on other youtubers with click bait titles destined for an audience that loves drama. Because if she didn't rely on other youtubers, what is her content really? what does she add to the table? Anyway, agreeing with Ellen or defending her doesn't make people sheep or I could just say the same about you agreeing with unnatural vegan without question.
I don't understand why people would think that cooking is bad
Constant Disappointment yeah same I don’t get it
I cook but they say that cooking foods are high in A.G.E.s and heat destroys certain nutrients.
@@lz.2440 But most healthy people eat cooked food
@@lz.2440 no lol cooking helps you digest the food better in which you can absorb more of the nutrients.
It's a very simple black and white way of thinking. Cooking in fact does destroy some of the nutrients, so these people assume cooking=bad. They totally dismiss the fact that some nutrients become more available after cooking, and that the healthiest diet combines raw and cooked food. But it's an emotional matter, so argueing with facts won't likely help.
Antivaxxers getting advice from chiropractors 🤦🏻♀️🤦🏻♂️
She's a Trump supporter. If she's gullible enough to believe the garbage that comes out of his mouth she'll clearly believe anything.
@@user-yp6xj5xp1b wait, Ellen Fisher supports Trump? Do you have a source for me?
You can make whatever points you want, but imo the title of this video is nasty.
You mean "click bait" to help increase views and her revenue.
I completely agree. It’s a cheap shot.
This irresponsible playing around with B12 and your child, is child abuse.The title is very delicate.
I suggest you check your B12 level, as having sub-optimal levels can lead to neurological damage.
@@tonycollyweston6182 a bit of a stretch. Especially because her info was dated. She clearly hasn't watched in a while. She is judging this mother's parenting based on her diet. Only an idot
Just saying, I contacted Ellen very recently and she says she DOES give her kids a b12 supplement.
Also she supports non-vaccinating her kids as you can see by her tweet to Kat von D about vaccinations.
@Jayme Carter 😏
Receipts???
But unnatural vegan isnt saying she doesnt now shes saying when you search vegan b12 Ellen's post comes up about not supplementing, so shes saying Ellen needs to take that off and update with yes I do supplement
@@Chellekathryn Ellen literally has a video of herself giving her kids vitamins.
Is Monster Energy good b12 source? Asking for a friend.
No. Eat eggs
Most likely not.
Doesn’t believe in germ theory!? 😟
I really don't feel like Unnatural Vegan means any harm by her videos about Ellen (or anyone for that matter)... what I take from it is that she brings up concerns and misinformation to make sure people are eating a healthy vegan diet. People take videos like these way to personal
100%
Exactly. If you think pointing out fact is a personal attack its because....THE FACTS ARE AGAINST YOU.
I know this is irrelevant but you remind me of Diane from Bojack Horseman. Both your voice and appearance
Naomi Smith yessssss
Diane is hot, so thank you!
OMG YES!
What's with the sugar cane juice? Do these people know that it's literally just a wet version of the same granulated sugar they're just SO against? 😣
I heard agave nectar is the best thing to use, honey as well.
@@shyanmarie4405 there's little difference between syrups, honey, sugar etc. Not saying to avoid it all, but don't treat them as health foods. Sweet fruit juices as well (they're drinkable calories with a few extra vitamins that don't fill you up at all)
Lol. Sugar cane is called sugar cane because it can be processed and turned into sugar, not because it is pure sugar. You can also make granulated sugar out of beets, dates, coconuts, etc. and no one calls those “the fruit/veg version of the same granulated sugar they’re SO against”. Unprocessed sugar cane is high in vitamins and has quite a different taste than just regular sugar.
@@marthak3191 lol right?? the comparison of something that is raw and unprocessed with something extremely processed and treated doesn't make sense....
@Ana M bro omg sugar care juice with some lime and ginger 🥵 I would die for that
I know that she didn't necessarily eat any super protein rich foods, as in not a ton of beans, however if you put basically any of her what i eat in a day videos into cronometer, she gets 70+ grams of protein, which for her size, is about 30 grams over her daily minimum. and she does supplement for B12 if you look at her tips for raising healthy vegan kids :) ALSO: a quick edit, she eats SO MANY greens. Like so many.
Amelia's Menagerie but she shows us lots of kale and collard in her food plus nut butters oats and dry fruit and such
Amelia's Menagerie also it would have been better if this video focussed more on the vaccine issue as that is an important one for the larger public.
@@skylarlianne2835 Yeah that's my bigger issue. I'm personally pro vaccine except for flu for myself (I think it's good I just personally don't like shots so I never get it lmao), but we have vaccines for a reason and that should be the main concern imo
melissa cabrera yes! No more bullying!
Haha thank you for the Cronometer data. How this video goes on and on about subjective assumptions “not enough protein or fat” is pretty ridiculous because there’s no proof. And the Cronometer proof doesn’t lie
Chiropractors who give vaccination advice. *shudders*
Big Pharma giving vaccination advice. *Shudders*
Just wanted to say i appreciate that you choose to not have your child on camera out of respect for him/her. I think it is a very responsible decision and I very much respect it. I feel the same way about these videos featuring children... it feels odd.
Amelia Echo and yet she used a picture of ellens children with a disgusting title for clickbait
the childreen are actually not featured.
Did you even watch the video? There are no pics of Ellen's kids!@@eelsallad333
UA-cam needs to do more to protect children on their platform. Children cannot consent to being public figures and their parents are exploiting them for financial gain. From my understanding laws that protect child actors do not extend to reality tv shows and youtube, so Ellen and other parents who exploit their children are not required to set up a trust with a portion of whatever money is being generated.
JamieNTT yes but is a child working if one of the parents casually films them coloring or having a walk?
@@Shasha-jo5iv one could argue that....yes, if the video makes money they were an "actor"? Just playing devil's advocate but it could probably be made a case. Everything gets murky when money is involved.
People featured in documentaries dont usually get paid, she is essentially documenting HER life, in which her children feature. I understand people who want to keep their kids completely separate but I think it's unfair to suggest others are doing something harmful including their children as part of their daily activities in their own life documentary. In most of her videos you can see they're either running around in the back when she's filming the food (as she's selling her ebooks based on her food) or she's interrupted by them frequently when she's just talking to the camera by herself about products or sponsors (which is where she will be making the bulk of her income from), so it's not the whole 'lets point the camera at the kids and wait for them to do something interesting so we can post it for money' thing that its being made out to be.
@@N4T93 if people don't get paid in documentaries, they sign an appearance release form which gives permission. It's hard tho, cos she is their guardian so she can give permission for them. Of course if they're in the background, who cares, but often it seems they're the focus of the videos. Lots of creeps watch kids on youtube, just sayin. Have a good day :)
Agree! A lot of these mommy vloggers are taking advantage of their children for views. One just showed their kid being in the ER. Poor girl was sick and needed an IV. Hold on sweetie, mommy needs to get the camera out.
Out of topic, but I find your voice really calming and relaxing. Love listening to you while I do chores.
Me too!
Your videos remind me to take my vitamins
Using video's from 2015 as your source is not fair judgement. Ellen does take B12, and has stated the importance of taking the vitamin in her videos.
what about all the other vitamins that her kids are lacking? including basic fatty acids and proteins? are there supplements for that too?
it seems fair because Ellen is seemingly linking those old videos in her descriptions of new videos? I would infer from that, that she wants us to watch those videos.
In her video with Alicia silverstone she was promoting her mykind vitamins but also wondering if she really takes them.
Her kids eat a very health well balanced diet they eat things like oatmeal with tahini and other nut butters hempseeds flax seeds chia seed all there sauces are homemade with food like nuts and coconut they also eat lots of lentils and beans
I just checked her cook book and over half of the dinner recipes feature lentils or beans!
From what we see her display on you tube I agree that the family could eat more legumes, but that being said we only see a very small snippet of her life, so it isn't fair to judge.
If you are going to review someone use current content
yea she definitely did not do enough research on Ellen. She's being extremely unfair and comes off very unlikeable on this video.
@@pryscilaleon2348 Agreed.
The only stance Ellen has changed is her stance on b12, all the other content is still relevant.
Besides the b12 she still has a brunch of dangerous misinformation on her site. She's anti-vaxx and anti-sunscreen. Her children spend lots of time outside in the hot Hawaiian sun. God forbid one of them gets melanoma.
Totally agree. On top of her now supplementing B12 for her children, she also eats pretty differently these days from her videos 5-6 years ago. I see WAY more cooked food and variety in her videos now.
I really take issue with your choice of title...You may disagree with Ellen but she puts FAR too much positivity out there to deserve a title like that. Anyone knows damn well - disagree with Ellen if you must - but you know damn well she’s not trying to “endanger children”. That hurt ME to read that. There’s wayyy too much vegan craziness on UA-cam and Ellen is one of the few gems we have. Very unfair, and honestly kind of mean.
Well... ever heard the saying 'the road to hell is paved with good intentions'..?
Gloria Anderson just cause someone isn’t trying to endanger their kids doesn’t mean they arnt
Gloria Anderson honestly just gives vegans a bad name. Why do we all stand for the same thing yet attack each other?
Yes!!!! I’m unfortunately unsubscribing after this video. There are too many people against vegans for another vegan to be this negative in the community.
Yes girl!! I honestly can't believe what I'm reading. This woman is awful!!!! I love Ellen !
I couldn’t stay quiet for this one I’m sorry. Ellen feeds her kids a Whole plant food diet. She and her husband take the time to make most things they eat from scratch. And that takes a lot of time and effort. I know because that’s how I cook. She also feeds them oatmeal during the day, not only smoothies and salads. Their dinners most of time have beans and lots of veggies. And fats from avocado and coconuts and coconut milk. And they do tahini and other nut butters. I don’t think they’re fat deprived. I will not touch on the no vaccine issue. I’m talking strictly about nutrition here. I eat mostly like her and I have many a times logged all my food on chronometer, and every single time I have surpassed my daily protein and fat intake. And when you talk about her exploiting her kids, it couldn’t be furthest from the truth. You see Mothers over posting pictures of their kids on a daily basis and nobody says anything. I don’t watch her videos because of her kids. If they no longer appeared on the videos I would still watch and I’m sure most of her subscribers would too. I’m sure if one day, the kids decide they do not want to be on their videos anymore, she would honor that. And I don’t see why they’d be embarrassed later by anything she posts. Everything is done very tastefully.
Agreed.
Favorite comment. 💖
Unnatural vegan can only by what she sees in the videos. Based on what's in the videos it looks like the kids are lacking certain things. Sticking things in cronometer is irrelevant since you can set custom targets. Do you actually know how much protein you need? The Vegan RD Jack Norris recommends vegans get 1 to 1.1 grams per Kg of healthy body weight. It's not a bad idea to get a little more protein that that. Since this is based on the RDA which is a general recommendation. The vegan RD Ginny Messina recommends at least 3 servings of legumes per day. It's not hard to get enough protein on a vegan diet. But it's also not hard to not get enough. Just based on what's shown in this video it looks like Ellen isn't getting enough protein. I would love to see her cronometer her diet and that of her kids. Just to see what they are actually geting.
Agreed
She has said that her and her family take a regular b12 supplement now. The clip that you used of Ellen was very old 😞
She films them for one day once a week. How is that exploitative? She has also said that she asks her children before filming them. I was a Patreon but I just stopped supporting you.
do you have a link? Don't actually link it (it will go to spam), just share the name of the video. I could not find anything about her supplementing for b12. Only that video and blog post, and comments from viewers saying she does not supplement herself or her children. If she does, she really needs to remove those old videos and that blog post.
@@abby6215 Children can't consent to being posted on the internet
Unnatural Vegan in the video titled, “Death by veganism” news stories my thoughts on it
she mentions how her family takes b12 around the 7 minute mark. She has also mentioned in on her IG numerous times.
@@UnnaturalVegan She talks about what supplements she uses in the VEGAN MOMS TALK video from last year
I don't understand this new trend of advance warning when a video drops. I would prefer that it not show up in my feed until it is posted.
I get excited and think "new video from x UA-camr that I enjoy" only to click and see that it's not available for another 8 hours and I will probably forget to watch it by then.
It's an option, so not everyone is using it.
I think it is supposed to help the people who are subbed but don't get the vids for some reason.
All it does is let you know when they're posting and 9/10 times it's live and real-time. A lot of people enjoy this feature as it makes them feel closer to their coveted UA-cam idols. I personally like it because I can set reminders to watch such-and-such video as soon as it's set up and running.
@@shyanmarie4405 Yeah, once I get used to it I can just wait until it is complete and posted to see if I want to view it.
We are a vegan family and its great that you’re spreading the message to supplement. B12 is so important. I do think that Ellen now offers her children B12 though. 🤗
Ellen was the main reason why I went vegan, her loving and caring personality opened me up to the lifestyle and gave me the push I needed to commit. However, I completely agree with your concerns and have been suspicious in the years I've watched her, about vaccines mainly. I know she's most likely doing it out of love for her children (I have an anti-vaxx relative who loves her children but is so fucking stupid when it comes to vaccines, sunscreen, etc.) but it's not going to help them in the long run.
She seems to have opened up more to incorporating cooked foods over the years, so maybe she'll be open to your advice? I also agree on the whole child exploitation thing. I don't think it's necessarily wrong to post pictures of your children online like the majority of parents do, but when there's a money incentive it can change even the most loving parents, forcing their children into taking videos that they might not want to.
Thank you for this video, it needed to be said!
bloomire same!!! i love her.. she inspires me sm and i strive to be like her one day :)
same here bby, and now i have a b12 deficiency it's critically low most days i literally feel like im dying :')))
@@naplitkin Dude... you can't blame a youtube for your b12 deficiency... You may have been easily influenced and followed her step by step, but thats honesty you're own fault for not doing your own research, and looking into to other vegan influencers.
but on that note, that sucks you're going through that and I hope you recover, and get you're b12 intake under control. I would just say take some accountability for yourself and also never live by one persons word.
@@haleykline6314 true but you see how this can be a issue why people be like why I am no longer vegan and stuff
A young child cannot make a fully informed decision about appearing in those youtube videos. Lots of creeps out there on the inter webs. I feel like those kids are large part of their income. Which is fucked.
Id be mad if my mom did that to me
Plymouth Rock, brace yourself, the Puritan craze is back!
Just because there are “creeps” out there doesn’t mean you should stop living your life. There will always be pedophiles. Hiding your kids indoors 100% of the time is not the solution.
you know there's a healthy place in the middle of 'hiding your kids indoors 100% and showing footage of them in the bath to 500k people right?@@RH-ou3tw
I love that you are keeping your kids out of videos and being so considerate in that way
Yes, I saw a kid on television, once. I had to burn my television set, in case I felt like exploiting the child actor that was in the TV show.
@@I_know_it_I_sew_it_I_grow_it not sure what this sarcastic response is for? child actors choose to do that (usually) where as most youtube kids don't. also acting isn't the same as real life? if my parents had most of my childhood filmed for the internet to see, as an adult i'd be pretty embarrassed.
@@lunalove9395 Well, that's just you isn't it? You can't speak for everyone else. Personally, If I was raised in an Island paradise like Elvis, Sandy, and Scout, and had adorable and beautiful videos of myself as a baby and young child kept as a time-capsule, I'd be exceedingly happy. I was born in 1983, and cameras were rare then, so I only have a couple videos of myself as a baby and young child, but I love watching them.... if I had these weekly videos of myself, I'd be elated - as well as the fact that all the commenters on those videos are positive, kind, supportive, and loving... man, it'd be awesome. I'd love it.
@@SydLane i didnt say that having videos of your kids is wrong though? heck i wish my parents had more home videos of me, but sharing them all online - where anyone could see them, and your kids are breastfeeding or half-naked, is not safe or fair on them. there's been numerous cases of parents posting photos of kids on their insta/facebook accounts, only for them to be stolen and posted on child porn websites. it just seems unethical to exploit your children in such a way/give them no privacy for cash, especially with looking at how a lot of child stars in the entertainment industry have turned out.
agreed 100%
I don't agree with everything Ellen does but I think most of this criticism is highly unfair.
1) As a follower who has watched all of her videoes: she mentions in several videoes that she eats more than 2000 calories every day (because either she has been pregnant and or/breastfeeding and leads an active lifestyle), and it is definitely possible to get ALL of your required daily nutrients every day on a high carb low fat lifestyle IF you include the right foods (seeds, nuts, seaweed etc) and remember to eat ENOUGH.
2) Ellen usually also puts flax, chia and/or hemp seeds in her smoothies, sometimes also seeds on her salad, sometimes they have cashew sour cream so there are also nuts present. The old videos about B12 should be removed, for sure, but as others have said, Ellen and her family do take B12 now and when she was pregnant I remember she also supplemented with iodine.
3) The kids also get many of these nutrients in their smoothies and besides avocado they also eat coconut meat and they get coconut milk in a lot of their cooked dishes. So no, their fat intake does not only come from avocado and I do not doubt that they are getting enough. Also remember that Ellen has breastfed her children long term which means they have also gotten important nutrients and fats from her milk.
4) You only need 0,8 grams of protein per kilo of your body weight, so if you weigh 50 kilos you only need 40 grams a day. It is totally possible to get even more than that on this diet IF you eat enough calories. Also, excessive protein intake (which is right now being marketed as healthy - protein powders, protein chocolate bars, etc., there is added protein in so many foods these days) is bad for your kidneys in the long run.
5) How many people do actually meet their nutritional requirements on every single nutrient EVERY single day of their lives? Not a lot I think. These are GUIDELINES and these also vary (sometimes greatly) from country to country - they are not necessarily the right amount for everyone. Someone might need more or less than others for different reasons.
6) Also I would not call Ellen a pure raw foodist, she acknowledges the nutritional value of cooked foods as well. In her videos they always have cooked meals for dinner and beans and legumes are also included in some of these meals. She also says in several of her videos that eating a healthy vegan diet can be done in many different ways and that you do not have to live like her to be healthy, because there are plenty of other whole plant foods you can eat besides papayas and mangos.
7) I think that her diet provides far more nutrients and healthy foods than the diet that a lot of other people are eating, for example the standard American diet or just a vegan diet filled with processed foods. Unprocessed foods will always be better than processed.
8) I don’t agree with her views on vaccination or following pseudo science such as medical medium. But that does not mean that the lifestyle she promotes is “endangering” her children, on the contrary I think that her children are much healthier than a lot of other kids and adults. She is a great inspiration when it comes to raising a healthy family and I respect the work that she does to inspire people to live a healthier life.
9) Also I don’t see how showing your kids on social media is endangering or disrespecting them. These are the times we live in, a lot of kids are featured on social media, kids even go on and feature themselves on social media when they get older. I don’t see why this should be endangering them or anything like that. She does not film them when they are upset or does not want to be filmed, she respects them. I think the title of this video is clickbaity and very inappropriate.
agree 100%! She says she isn't attacking Ellen but her video really does come off as an attack especially because if you are a follower of Ellen you know most of the points Swayze made are not true and extremely unfair. The title of the video is extremely disrespectful and the point about "endangering" or "disrespecting" her kids is a real low. I agree that parents need to be careful about how they put their kids on social media, but if anyone is doing it the right way it's Ellen.
Seriously, great comment..well put together
I know this is old, but not vaccinating your children IS putting them, and others, at risk. As well as leaving videos up talking about her kid not supplementing B12- even if she supplements now, she shouldn't leave the old videos up that promote not supplementing them.
I like Ellen too, and I agree not all of UV's points were entirely fair or well researched, but there are a few key points I think she got right that justify the title.
Its not just about the amount and calories. They literally are eating food that has almost no protein
Did you just say that unprocessed food is always better than processed food? Nature appeal is so annoying. Here is an example: kidney beans are poisonous before cooking. So unprocessed kidney beans are definitely a lot less healthy than processed cooked kidney beans, as eating it will make you throw up while it processed is a healthy and possibly delicious food.
deadass i grew up watching ellen fisher, i developed orthorexia, and now i have a b12 deficiency and uhhhh i'm very sick now lmao. not blaming her it's just like.. the vegan youtube community never told me the risks of being vegan, just that i was a bad person if i wasn't one :')))
This is the problem with vegans. They sell ideas that harm people. Take care of yourself, and yes, this people are to blame when they give restriction diet "suggestion" and link ethics to it. All living beings are part of life chains. We are not to blame to eat to thrive. The problem is the industry. And now there is one more risk to our health - vegan influencers. Hope you get better.
And then they shame people who quit because of the health issues they got from not worrying about protein, minerals or B12.
I hope you're doing better ❤
Are you still vegan Sarah? I'm an ex vegan with memory issues due to b12 deficiency even though I supplemented
@@sitathisfeet5797 no, i am not vegan anymore! im taking my b12 supplements now but am still suffering from the effects of being deficient.. i'm worried i'll have to start taking it by injections :(((
The thing is that people follow others on UA-cam or other social media’s and copy what they see without doing some research beforehand. If you would research before doing anything than you would know that vegans are not selling ideas or trying to make people feel bad. If you went vegan and got sick than it’s your fault for not doing the proper research to find out how to be vegan. There is a right way and a wrong way. Being vegan is not a diet it’s a lifestyle and a way to make a difference and to make changes that protect our planet.
Tbh it doesn't really matter if the kid acts like he wants to or not, kids are not done developing mentally... not even close. It's up to parents to do the right thing, make the smart decisions. Cmon people.
UmbraLin disordered eating forced upon children. Too overboard.
Absolutely! Ellen is doing an amazing job!
@@I_know_it_I_sew_it_I_grow_it I also like jokes
I have a condition which prevents me from absorbing B12 from food, I have to have it injected in order to stay healthy/alive. It is so mind boggling to me that people who can just eat it still don't! I have been so unwell from lack of B12 (pre-diagnosis). It can be really hard to spot and still have serious permanent effects.
Been dropping in and out of your videos for a few months now, not vegan ('meat reducer' - I hate that phrase... we don't cook meat at home but do eat dairy and will eat meat out of the house). I've been thinking more and more about at least reducing dairy intake since watching your stuff. I've known a lot of vegans in real life and they have always rubbed me the wrong way, often not just about veganism, so even though I think it's a great choice for lots of reasons I'd never thought of it as a possibility for me. Not sure if I'll ever make the full step, but your approach has really endeared me to at least maybe having some vegan days in the week or something similar.
I take a daily vegan multivitamin with the recommended dosage of cyanocobalamin and regularly drink fortified soy milk so unless I suddenly got some malabsorption problem out of the blue that I didn't know about I think I'll be just fine
@@azugirl111 They say that B12 is better taken alone. Watch dr. Michael Greger's videos on B12 (he always says it).
Caz Avery you should become vegan so we can increase the percentage of sane people in the movement!
I hope i dont seriously rub people the wrong way. the angry pushy vegans who ruin the reputation for everyone else are upsetting. :/
Caz Avery same for my partner, he has crohns disease and needs regular b12 injections as he can't absorb it because he's had most of his intestines removed
“and like any good quack” 😂😂😂 I love you bluntness so much!
She also doesn’t put sunscreen on her blonde children living in Hawaii 🤨
this is because they need vitamin D and I ve seen videos were she is putting sunscreen to one of them
No need after a while.
Aline Ruiz You still get vitamin D it just protects you from the dangerous rays
@J.Nord and yet... most of the people who get skin cancer rarely go out in the sun. Did you ever stop to consider that people get cancer because they're unhealthy, and that the sun is just the scapegoat, not the cause?
Great video! I'm sure she's a wonderful wife, mom etc. but she has "No" Nutritional Education! And the people that follow her and think her advice is perfect frightens me..........
I'm really glad for this video. I love Ellen's videos, they are nice to watch, she is a lovely woman who seems to genuinely want the best for her family and others. That said, I followed a diet modelled after hers, her cookbook, and her advice for about a year and recently was diagnosed with severe anemia and b12 deficiency. I've since totally revamped how I eat and I've come to learn that it how I was eating was extremely unbalanced and actually dangerous.
I also realised about the immunization stance not too long ago through different connections which saddens me greatly and caused me to lose some respect for her.
I still love Ellen for her drive and her optimism, but I have to agree with every point you made in this video. I hope more people hear your words and aren't as gullible as I was by blindly following a single UA-camrs nutrition advice. Your video is bang on. Props.
That's really awful and I hope you're feeling better!
@Stella Frutta why would you as a random person on the internet assume you know someone else's age much less how much they researched something?
@@KatBurnsKASHKA I'm on supplements now and am starting to feel a lot better thank you
Ellen and her family are supplementing with B12 UV is using outdated videos. If you were eating as many green and bean as Ellen you wouldn’t be difficient in iron
@@jenniferkroetch3292 The fact that you say I should eat as many beans as ellen is laughable since Ive seen her eat beans maybe once or twice, and for greens she eats maybe two or three servings a day. But yes, all of the videos I was using to formulate my diet are now outdated since I started eating that diet over a year ago.
Here is a cronometer snapshot of what she says she ate in her recent "what I ate in a day" video. I used an 1800 Calorie Goalpost (which is to her benefit and brings down the number of nutrients for someone like Ellen who is active and breastfeeding) And also used generous portion sizes to amp up the chances her diet would reach the minimum RDAs. Using her most recent video shes DOES (barely) meet iron RDA, but as you can see she is missing out on a LOT of other stuff on this day. Especially the amino acids are atrocious considering her claim that we get "more than enough protein from raw fruits and vegetables." I'm not blaming Ellen for my health problems, i made my own choices. I'm simply stating that the diet she promotes is not as balanced as she claims, whether thats iron, b12 or otherwise.
2 Papayas
1 dragonfruit
Barley Grass Juice Powder
Orange Juice
Pineapple
Mango
1 collard green leaf
Romaine Lettuce
Tomato
Cucumber
Dulse
Onion
Avocado
Potatos
Vegan "cream"
rice paper spring rolls
Broccoli
Rice
Vindaloo Sauce
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Did you seriously just imply that ellen uses her kids as a "product" to earn money and yet you dont even know her husbands name? 1) you clearly havent seen enough of her videos to be judging her. And 2) theres absolutely nothing wrong with her children being in her videos. She vlogs her family life. Her children are her family.
You may helicopter and hover over yours but that doesnt mean she has to do the same. Regardless. What does any of that have to do with veganism? Does her having her children in videos some how show proof that shes "vegan-ing" wrong?
I'm sorry. But you need some more hobbies if this stuff is what you spend your time on.
The point is that her kids don't get the nutrients they need to be healthy and that's just not okay.
@@Tintenfischchen you assume they arent. But ok 👍
@@jcmrax5 If she does give the kids proper B12 supplements, she's doing an outstanding job at making it look like she doesn't.
@@Tintenfischchen She/her family does supplement with B12. Look at her response to the video...(I think its the top comment or near there).
I'm sure that youtube gives us 24/7 insight into Ellen's life... honestly, get a grip! Ellen often shares a day in the life and shows us what she eats, but there is a lot more that goes on behind closed doors. Secondly, what Ellen feeds her children is none of your concern. Her lifestyle is her own personal decision. Rather than attacking a mother who is doing an absolutely WONDERFUL job of raising her children, why does nobody bat an eye to the women ACTUALLY neglecting and endangering their children. Some of these comments are absolutely appalling, and half of the people sharing their negative and unhelpful criticism should be ashamed of themselves. If you disagree with another person's lifestyle, that should NOT be your concern.
Her children seem to always be hungry. Every time they see food, they're like "can I have some?" as though they are never full/satiated. That in and of itself should raise some concerns.
VitriolXandakas Oh shut up - a child excited over nutritious foods is one of the last things this world needs to worry about. Have you ever been in the company of a normal child? Children are always snacking and enjoy eating, when the food appeals to them. Good on Ellen for raising beautiful, healthy and thriving children and shame on you for reaching for pathetic points on a family you know nothing about.
i have to agree with you they seem always hungry
Wow, most other kids hate foods.. It's lovely to see that her child are excited about healthy food
That would be due to a lack of protein. If ellen put more protein in their diet. Then they wouldn't be so hungry.
"hasn't shown signs of deficiently" yeah...by the time the symptoms show... ITS TOO LATE BY THEN with B12.
I think,as a mother yourself, this video is completely irresponsible and in bad taste. Especially the title. No matter how much you disagree with the way she eats or if she makes videos with her kids in them, the fact that you would title this video in the way you did is pretty despicable. Considering in this day and age how easy it is to have a CPS case on your back and what can happen if that should happen. If you truly had concerns about their well being you could've emailed her privately (mother to mother, vegan to vegan, youtube to youtuber) or gone about this video in a different way. "teaching people how to endanger their kids" by showing what THEY choose to eat in one day or to show a day in their life. Wow. How many parents in America feed their kids Mc Donald's, soda, and a terrible SAD diet every day. They are literally giving their children foods that are already clogging their tiny arteries. THAT is child endangerment and that is everywhere. You need to be careful with what you put on the internet. Don't get cocky because you have more than 100k subs now. You are talking about a family unit and you are involving the entire internet and by making a title like that you can sway a lot of people and the way they view her and her family. I've been a subscriber to your channel for years....and this video really disappointed me. Mother to mother, shame on you.
I agree that there could have been a better title. BUT there was some excellent constructive critisism in the video.
@@jasmineh7784 when it comes to FAMILIES people need to tread extremely lightly. We are talking about a mother who actually cares what she feeds her kids and about her kids health. this isnt something most Americans even think about. Ellen is a great mother and this video depicts her in a very bad way and it is wrong. the stats aren't even accurate and are out dated. She has stated in videos recently that they supplement regularly with b12. AND there is science that back both vaccinating and non vaccinating. She isn't a bad mom for not vaccinating. that is her choice and her children are homeschooled. this video could seriously lead to big consequences for Ellen in this day and age and that is wrong.
Emily Rose I agree. She post some real shitty titles. Like majority of America feed their kids complete bull shit diets. But hey...let’s attack Ellen. It’s really shitty.
@@RandiBOMB raw vegan is worse than the standard american diet
I agree. I enjoy watching Ellen although I am not vegan and we have different beliefs. I don’t understand how people can be okay with making content essentially bashing and “bullying” others. On top of that attacking her mothering is low, especially when Ellen is way more attentive and educated than most mothers out there. And I don’t mean educated in the sense that I agree with everything, I mean that she spends a lot of time informing herself and making the best decisions she can for her family. As a mother myself, I could never do/say this about another mother unless I witnessed abuse/neglect. I don’t get it, I would feel so ashamed.
I remember once when I was 5 or so my neighbor was taping us (myself and her own children) playing outside together. I was very silly in front of the camera and later that day I was mortified watching the tape later that day. In the moment I was happy to be on camera but later on didn't like seeing myself. I couldn't imagine if everything was uploaded on the internet and could never move past it.
Hi! I've seen a lot of your videos on "critiquing" vegans what I eat in a day videos. What's the app you use to track your own calories and nutrients?
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In those videos the kids are constantly asked about food - what they're eating, what they're going to eat, what is their favourite fruit etc etc. I don't remember thinking about food much at all growing up.
@One Journey Calm down man, I am in agreement with this video. It's not normal/healthy for kids to constantly be talking about their food. They should have many other interests. That was my point...
I agree but it’s possibly also how they edit the video as well. They could be trying to highlight what they eat to showcase it.
I was obsessed with food growing up and asked about snacks and food all the time. My family fed me a pretty standard American diet so perhaps it’s just their personality? As an adult I still get a ton of enjoyment from food and love cooking and coming up with recipes so I think she may just have kids who love food. That said I agree with a lot in this video.
EXACTLY. I was poor growing up so we ate what my mom made and that was it. This obsession with food at a young age has been linkes to developing eating disorders such as orthorexia, anorexia and bulimia as a teenager. And these disorders are SO DANGEROUS. They have the highest mortality rates of ALL mental.disorders with anorexia alone killing 10% of sufferers within a 5 year period.
I am such a fan of your videos. As a personal trainer, I am constantly having to talk my younger clients off the ledges of dietary styles they find on the internet. Influencers don’t have to be responsible, but all the bad health info on the internet really does impact people. It’s not new - women’s magazines have given bad advice for decades - but it’s pretty darn persuasive. So I appreciate that you make these videos so that when people are searching for tips they get an alternate perspective that reminds them to decide for themselves, even if they don’t agree with you, because staying healthy involves making a lot of personal decisions.
I think this is a great debate but the sensationalist way this video was titled and the way the information was related (judgmental and a bit misleading) turns me off and so I will be unsubscribing. I think you can relate a different opinion and provide information as you do without tearing others down, especially when we should all keep in mind these videos are a snapshot filtered view of others lives and we likely don’t have all the info to make such judgements. I agree with @ellen fisher that you should have reached out to her first before making this video. Disappointing!
This video is so inaccurate it’s almost comical. Ellen eats SO MUCH GREENS. Jealousy is never pretty.
IKR... she eats so much greens, that when I'm watching her videos I'm always thinking "jeez I couldn't eat that many greens".... This video was grossly misinformed.
She also supplements b12 for her and her family. People learn and grow
but she doesn't vaccinate and that's the most dangerous and detrimental thing, and that's not an opinion. it's a fact. nothing to be jealous about lol
Savy B okay then she should have made a video “I don’t agree with Ellen fisher not vaccinating her children” but she didn’t. She needed more views because nobody watches her videos so she is trying to attack someone else’s life
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lol i mean i agree that it’s clickbait. but that’s what her channel is about, addressing vegans that she may be harmful to the community. it’s a good way to get her message out, if she’s making a video about someone she’s gonna put their name. & what the video is about. also it’s just plain wrong to say no one watches her videos.... she has almost 200k subscribers. you’re here watching 🤷🏽♀️
This video is SO disappointing. I really don´t understand how a mother could be so mean to another mother, by picking up old content and worst of all, choosing such a despicable title. You should be ashamed. Women should help and support each other, not bash each other. Ellen does an incredible work as a mother and inspiring people to make better food choices. You might not agree with everything she does and that´s ok, but the way you talked in this video is not only hurtful, but it is also highly inaccurate and twisted.
lol she didnt bash her but i agree some stuff is inaccurate i dont think she knows that though not yet at least. Guessing you read Ellens comment. im sure she'll figure out that many things she said arent accurate and she can apologize or fix it, but honestly Unnatural Vegan is like the least hostile biased person out there but like everyone else she can make mistakes let her know, with out being super crazy and pissed-why do we all get so crazy online.
She’s jealous of Ellen. It’s very obvious.
why do you keep mentioning motherhood like it makes you absolved of criticism
Shes a pick me girl/vegan 😅😅😅
Anti-vaxxers endanger everyone, their children most of all.
I normally appreciate your videos but attacking Ellen Fisher...I'm still trying to wrap my head around this. The title of your video is "click bait" at best. Your accusations are completely biased, poorly researched and just plain ridiculous. You mentioned not knowing her husbands name. You clearly haven't watched her videos at a level necessary to truly understand her content. I'll be taking everything you say with a grain of salt moving forward.
Total "click bait", not really fair to Ellen
The title is not clickbait. It’s certainly strong language but it expresses Swayze’s point exactly.
It’s her opinion. I’ve watched Ellen and have convos with her. Her kids are quite fine and healthy.
LAURA CARROL: This title is NOT clickbait. Clickbait is when the title is completely off topic from the content of the video which this is not...she clearly makes her points and expresses her views in relation to the title. But your comment is complete slander..
Laura Carroll ...but is she attacking her? I myself annoy watching Ellen’s channel and this video only opened my eyes regarding her diet which is... true to an extent. Her diet just isn’t high in protein, you’re lying to yourself if you think otherwise. Though when it comes to greens and b12 I believe it’s adequate
Ellen do gives her children B12, but you decided to not even put that on your video and that's because you want the attention.
4:07 "eating foods and not washing the soil of"?????? I don't care about this woman she is crazy to me but why the poor children should get toxoplasmosis and other diseases???😩
Especially in hawaii with those snails running around contaminating everything
Maria Athena She wants to bury her kids and I think if someone's child gets sick and ends up handicap because of her own kids haven't been vaccinated she should be made to pay for someone's child's life long medical terms..
@@gaylenewood7707 Agreed 100%!!! Start slapping fines and charges on these loons and suddenly all of this holistic healing crap will dissappear!
Maria Athena She said the food is grown in nutrient rich soil not they they don’t wash their produce.
@@marisamelchiorre7120 nope, listen again 4:07
My great grandmother lived through the depression, when they barely had ANYTHING to eat....the woman pretty much lived off of soup beans, ham, cornbread, and whatever she grew in her garden for her entire life.... she lived to be 93 years old, all the while living independently in her own home....she also only cooked with lard....I'd say, as long as your kids are being fed, they're gonna be ok; unless all you're feeding them is McDonald's, processed snack food, and liquid sugar.... seriously, there are kids eating mud cakes on this planet, literally, right now.... be grateful if you have the means to feed them something decent at all....
I usually agree with you, but I don’t think this video was fair. You didn’t do enough research on Ellen and what she “promotes” 😕 also, this title is a huge slap in the face. As a mother, you should understand that.
Yeah i agree. Also didnt like how she told everyone about Ellen not vaccinating her kids. Even Ellen had never publically said that.
Jas298 Riley yup. & making a video saying she endangers her children when she doesn’t even post food videos weekly is beyond my comprehension. I usually really enjoy these videos because I like to know when stuff is bullshit, but this didn’t seem well researched considering she didn’t even know Ellen’s husband’s name. I’ve also thought Ellen was always really great at mentioning that her type of diet isn’t for everyone and that’s okay, and to do what’s best for you and your own family.
@@lauramorales3840 i know. I felt sorry for ellen. A poorly researched video.
I do feel the title was slightly inappropriate and uncalled for however it is unsafe to not vaccinate your children the other points could be updated for better/safer information but I can not see the non vaccination stance as a healthy one
Tessa Pearl-Belton I agree about the vaccinations.
I’m not vegan and i probably never will be but I love Ellen and I in no way think Ellen is endangering anybody’s children, she is not telling anyone what to do she just shows us and teaches us how she lives her vegan lifestyle. Her children seem more healthy than most children.
The name of this video is just disgusting 😡
by not vaccinating she is putting other children ar risk, period. Look up the concept of "herd immunity".
I mean, I can't speak to their diet but if nothing else choosing not to vaccinate does endanger both children and anyone else with compromised immune systems. So. Yeah.
Yes! The title is mindblowing I mean you really took it too far.
Verrrrry curious about this commentary
Waiting for the symptoms to appear????? that’s dangerous.
Yep considering the symptoms of b12 deficiency are nerve damage, blindness, sometimes deafness and psychotic breaks. Which none of these are reversible. Why wait until it gets to that point? Pretty sadistic to watch someone suffer like that. Is ellen a sadist?
I commented on another video of yours asking this, but have you thought about doing a video that in part maybe goes over the differences between methylcobalamin from cyanocobalamin as far as B12 goes?
love this video, thanks for making it :) and thanks for not backing down afterwards. binge watching some vids since hours, and not everyone can do tha tto me ;) subbed and love to see your vids frequently
Ellen Fisher is an absolutely wonderful mum and let's be honest. Most of the parents nowadays feed trash to their kids unlike her. She clearly takes a good care of her happy and healthy kids
Why the hell would someone wait until their GROWING child showed (possibly irreversible) signs of malnutrition before they decided to start giving them the right nutrients????
I just want to say thank you so much for your channel! You have no idea how many people you are helping who are vulnerable to particular youtubers. I was one of them when I was about 20, I just wanted to be healthier and I fell prey to channels like Alyse Parker raw alignment and fully raw Kristina. I didn’t know any better and I just wanted to feel how they purported to feel. One day I stumbled upon your channel and Abbey Sharp and you guys helped me to truly understand how to get the proper nutrients no matter what diet someone eats... Without insane biases.
Thank you so much 🙏🏼
"Why the hell would someone wait until their GROWING child showed (possibly irreversible) signs of malnutrition before they decided to start giving them the right nutrients????" - Exactly. This should've been enough to close the case. Restrict low nutrient diet, and she doesn't even test her own kids. Mamas are supposed to secure their children, not experiment with them.
Hey there. Quit interesting info about b12. It seems as if there is always something that I don't know about b12 (as well as my doctor). I thought I could just take b12 supplements ocasionally and that it wasn't something I had to take forever. You've mentioned fortified foods but often those have sugar in them too or if they don't they are quite expensive (at least where I live). Should those fortified foods or drinks be consumed every day? How do I know if I'm getting enough? I don't want to get neurotic about it.
I was b12 deficient after a year of being vegetarian with no supplements. I don’t understand how that lady thinks she can go years as a vegan with no b12 supplementation and be fine
Yeah well I didn't show B12 deficiency signs early on. This was way before I became vegan and my neurologist decided that I should be tested for B12 because I was having permanent nerve damage all over my body. We discovered that due to intrinsic factor I had almost no B12 in my system so now once a month I give myself an intramuscular injection of 1 ml of B12 but I will never recover I will never have feeling in my legs or feet I will always have horrible pain in my legs and feet and the same for my hands and arms my hands now are covered in Burns that I never feel happen. I also have nerve damage in other places to the point where I cannot stand up straight any longer and my doctor said when I asked will I ever be able to have straight posture again the answer was a quiet no. I am a medicine and science person but before that in my younger years I was a ballet dancer with the Boston Ballet and now I can't stand up straight or feel my legs and feet and this can never repair itself in fact even with the B12 it's still getting worse because once it attacks a nerve line it doesn't stop.
I'm so sorry. Thank you for sharing your story, hopefully it can educate some people about the importance of b12 before it's too late x
I am so sorry that happened to you, but thanks so much for sharing your story! I hope this will show others who think they are not deficient because they don't show any signs that they still could be deficient
Will you do a vid on family fizz?? I’ve never seen anyone respond to their stuff... wonder why... I love them, but damn, that family puts out videos every.single.day... want to know what you think about it!!!
savannah reynolds are they vegan?
I wonder why there's never any criticism of them too. They've changed so much since they were vegan fitness tv.
Family fizz is cringe.
I agree! When she was talking about “using” kids to make profit on UA-cam (or other platforms) I immediately thought about Family Fizz, I unfollowed them eventually because they progressively moved away from veganism (although they still show what they eat etc.) and concentrated more on their daily lives, and the way they expose their children is a bit too much in my opinion, especially Mia who had to make videos on stuff like her first period or her first bra, where she clearly faked nonchalance but was obviously pushed by her parents and the whole thing seemed awkward and she was visibly very uncomfortable. I felt sorry for her, I can’t imagine how embarrassed I would have felt in my teens knowing something like that was on the web for everybody to see.
@@katyperry401 yes they are. And I acutally love the way they promote veganism. They dont say “Hey Im vegan and you should be too“all the time. With their chanel they show that you can be vegan AND a “normal“ family. I also think they eat quite healthy by what you can see. However, I also thought about family fizz imediately when she was talking about making money with your kids, because thats what they do 100%. And sometimes you have the feeling they would do anything for followers, no matter what. Theyve been minimalists, seemed quite sustainable and now theyre like the exact opposite. (But I love their positive attitude)
very interested in your opinion of Lily Koi Hawaii's way of eating!
I think she's more balanced, while eating rt4, too
would love to hear what you think.
Lily doesn't eat rt4 :)
Legit question.
I agree with much of the video but my question is aimed at the protein component. I know that you prefer more protein in your diet so you feel better, satiated, etc.
But, I put the smoothie in Cronometer for Sandy, 11:45, and that came up at around 10% protein. I believe that when humans need the most protein for growth is when we are on breast milk which is something like 4% to 6% protein. Is it maybe that protein isn't an issue with them? That smoothie was close to 20% fat as well.
I come in at 10% protein almost every day I put into cronometer and I have plenty of it for working out (weights), I am not some skinny vegan twig. My recovery time is no different than before being whole plant food eater, and I have not lost strength over the years.
Even if the kids then ate a salad with romaine - romaine is 17% protein.
Is protein really a concern here? I would think that some micro-nutrients and the B12 that you mention would be much larger of a concern.
thoughts?
I saw this video coming a mile away
It is so hypocritical to talk about how Ellen is damaging her children by having them on the internet, then use a photo of her children for your thumbnail, with an incredibly rude and ignorant title. Something tells me that having a photo of themselves associated with content like this is what her children will find upsetting when they get older.
I was literally talking to my husband the other day about how Ellen's videos of her children are a wonderful time-capsule for them.... I was born in 1983 so I only have a couple videos of myself as a baby, and young child since video cameras were rare then...And I cherish those videos of my baby years. I would absolutely love to have videos of myself as a baby and young child, like Elvis, Sandy, and Scout have...Those are really beautiful videos. Where is the negative here? The commenters are positive, and kind, there's nothing ugly or negative directed towards these kids... I just don't know what the problem could be. Why would the children be upset by this in any way?.... Unnatural Vegan is grasping at straws on that point.
@@SydLane You know you can take videos of your children without uploading them on the internet, right?
@@rubylace9963 So I take it you never watch any videos of children on the internet? Or on movies? Do you have a "no children" viewing policy? If you're going to have a moral stance against such a thing, then I hope you're not perpetuating it.
@@SydLane I was just stating that parents really don't need to share every single moment of their children's life. Child actors in movies aren't showing their true lives either (although this is often exploitation to some extent). There are babies/toddlers who seem to have their own Facebook account these days because there are hundreds of pictures of them posted. At one time I deleted every single one of my own photos on social media because I was uncomfortable with my face being on the internet. These kids don't even get a say.
@@rubylace9963 Ellen only puts up one video a week, so she's hardly showing every moment of their lives - nor is she filming constantly. Her kids definitely do get a say. If you watch Ellens latest video, Sandy literally comes up to her while she was talking on camera by herself, and he asks to be in the video. ua-cam.com/video/xKgNESlhI7A/v-deo.html
Are b12 supplements important for a vegetarian diet as well or just vegan? I’ve been a vegetarian for 5 months and never took b12 before, should I start? What foods supply b12?
The only foods that supply b12 are animal.products such as milk, meat and eggs or foods fortified with b12 such as certain breads and cereals or plant "milks". It would say on the label..look for 20% or more per serving.
This video is old but I'm binge-watching all your videos and am in love with the way you break things down. I recently got a blood test to see how I was doing and surprisingly found out I was REALLY deficient in iron...now I was surprised because I literally showed ZERO symptoms and actually thought that I was getting enough (I take a multivitamin and eat tons of spinach but my doctor told me that even though that that I was very close to becoming anemic. Anyway, moving on, even if someone "appears" to be healthy does NOT mean they are, why risk your child's welfare based on your assumptions...just get them tested so they know!
ok but you were doing everything right and still was almost anemic? wtf thats wild, its ridixulius how you can do everything right and things still doesnt work. what did you do to fix this? and I dont even want to imagine my condition since I dont even eat healthy like you.
Since you're doing more of these videos on raw/out-there vegan youtubers could you talk about fairly local vegan and meagan moon? I'm curious about the health of both of their diets.
I really think you should take this video down but i know you won’t so you should AT LEAST change the title
Her/my kids eating lots of fruits and veggies is a lot healthier then most kids eating pizza and hotdogs.
Thank you for making this video, I really like Ellen but what you mentioned really needed to be said.
I think we would all have a different opinion on Ellen if she wasn't vegan.. we wouldn't take her seriously otherwise. But I do believe she's a really genuine and lovely person unfortunately she believes veganism can protect her from disease.
Kids not being able to consent to being in videos is the reason a channel I followed no longer makes videos. It's a couple that decided to start having kids and they recognized that they would be tempted to include their adorable kids in future videos (because of the sheer cute factor, not necessarily with monetization in mind) and so they felt it best to just remove that temptation by leaving UA-cam. I miss the channel, but I respect their decision to think of their future children's best interest.
PS. I also never got an outie when I was pregnant. Everyone kept telling me it would happen, and It never did. It's kinda nice to know other people have weirdly deep bellybuttons, too.
It's so unfair to have videos of your kids up for >1 million strangers on the internet. That ex-UA-cam couple sound like great parents! Though there's a difference between having a few short videos on UA-cam of your kid and having videos of their life regularly uploaded since birth like The Truman Show.
Overall I don't think their diet looks that bad (especially if they're supplementing other vitamins/minerals), but not vaccinating and making your kids internet-famous is very risky parenting! I mean, previous generations haven't grown up on social media in this very intense way, we do not know how it'll affect them psychologically later on in life.
On another note, not getting an outie is shocking! I had a tiny baby bump and got myself a nice freaky outie :p
"My belly button is just SO INNIE" [jump cut] "ANYWAYS"
that made me laugh.
This is sad to see you criticizing someone's way of life like this. Instead of critiquing others, why not focus on promoting what you believe. It's important we can disagree and live differently in this world, diversity is important. Every family, will make mistakes, people grow and learn, including myself and you. Let us raise each other up and not tear each other down. Our lives are worth more than this. People change when they are empowered not beaten down.
thank you for saying this!
Its not sad she makes these vidoes because a lot of ex vegans were the vegans who followed the kind of diet ellen promotes and long term it dosent work for a lot of people. Long term not a few years so if you been following that kind of diet for 1-4 years and you feel great im not talking about that. So it may work for ellen long term but it dosent work for a lot of people. Unnatural vegan makes these videos to explain the proper nutrition it takes to be a successful healthy long term vegan. these vidoes are to help people and make healthier and more long term vegans. Shes not attacking her shes cutting through her pseudoscience to help people avoid and overcome the pitfalls a lot of vegans face and avoid them damaging their kids
But I think it's more about taking down damaging misinformation that hurt the community as a whole.
Raw vegans seem to have this evangelist/holier than thou attitude, they are so blindly opposed to cooked food it angers me. The level of dogma is incredible in them.
Cookedaburra d SHE’S NOT RAW 🤦🏻♀️
@@CatherineKlein94 Calm down, she's like 90% raw, my mistake. Either way, she's an anti vaccine quack too, she's going to potentially get her kids very sick.
I wouldn’t say she’s 90% raw, maybe 70% (which is extremely healthy!). Plenty of the recipes in her ebook are cooked.. she is not “blindly opposed to cooked food.” I agree that she should vaccinate her kids though
What is funny is all the ads for your video either has meat OR processed food in it LOL. Just saw a commercial for McCormick and it has turkey cooking in it and an ad for McDonald's! LOL
People who upload vids have no control over which ads appear, it can change for each person who comes on, I didn't get the ones you did and they're different every time
on b12: curious if you think that a kids multi (2 mcg) would suffice? Also give her fortified soy milk (1.2 mcg)?
I love this video! The fact that she is not Vaccinating scares me since so many preventable diseases are resurfacing in our communities. Also I really like that you included the point about how her kids may feel when they're teens. I can honestly say if my Mother posted videos of me on the internet breastfeeding as a baby/toddler or running around butt naked, for everyone in the whole world to see - I would feel pretty embarrassed. Of course, that point is not just towards Ellen but many family vloggers and UA-camrs. The only thing I wish you would/could have added on was how she doesn't use sunscreen on her or her kids. To quote Ellen on her blog she says "The sun is not here to harm us and is not this evil force in the world that we have to do everything we can to stay “protected” from it, in contrast to what the media and sunscreen brands would like us believe." and I'd love to hear your take on it. Amazing video as always. Happy Halloween!
Endangering your kids, makes them stronger.
Ahaha if her kids lived in australia she might consider sunscreen, the ozone layer is thin here and you burn soso quickly!
She's a big offender when it comes to failing to put some sunscreen on her kids, but that seems to be a weirdly common thing among the instagram famous vegan parents I follow, particularly those that live in tropical places. I just saw a group photo in my feed of about six little kids with the darkest tans I've ever seen, and the mom that posted it was really proud of how tan all the kids were getting.
Sam Clarke I agree. Every time I see her kids super tanned skin and know they’ve never worn sunscreen I cringe a little.
Yes, it's vegan parents like this that think the world is out to get them. Soap is bad because of the chemicals affect your IQ (not true), fluoride is a conspiracy because it will make you dependent on dentistry (not true), sunscreen is bad because big pharma wants money (not true). You MUST throw science out the window to accept these beliefs as having any merit.
That feel when I haven’t bought any more B12 since I ran out and this definitely reminded me to do so.
I was raised on Mcdonald's, pop drinks, cakes, donuts, chips, frozen foods all the way. I wish I had a mom like Ellen who fed me raw foods, smoothies, healthy pasta and potatoes so I would'nt have all the eating disorder problems that I have right now... Seriously... Do you look at her sons and find them malnourished? ..... I know you are doing this for views but mom shaming is the worst. At least Ellen show us how her kids are vibrant and healthy... what do you do ? Beside shaming her?
Could u give links to a vegan b-12 supplement that you recommend❤️
Some genuine questions for you... Do you feel you know more than anyone else? Do you feel you are a better mom? Do you feel that you truly feed a healthy diet to your kid? Do you really think the processed food you eat is healthy?
With kids being in videos, I recently saw stuff about the Olsen twins and them talking about how they hated thier childhood. I feel like family channels focused on kids cross a line, if you make your whole income from your kids then you kinda just force them into it. What kind of a childhood can they have when it's all on film and is focused on making as much money from them as possible? Just look at what DaddyOFive became, while it's an extreme example it still says something about what could be happening behind the scenes when a kid says they don't wanna do a video or don't want something that'll get clicks in a video.
Matthew Maltese drew Gooden right???
@@elinwaghorne yuppp
Really disappointing to watch a video like this after watching your "what my baby eats in a day" , only to see how much processed food you feed your child. To THEN make a video on someone else's eating habits makes no sense especially when you don't eat healthy yourself. Remember that if you have a problem with someone else's lifestyle, you clearly have a problem with YOURSELF. So take some time offline and figure it out :)
Jacinda YES!
"If you have a problem with someone else's lifestyle you have a problem with yourself" um..what? How do you go through life with an ideology like that? Someone runs a red light and hits another car, injures them, but if you call them a reckless driver it's evidence that YOU have a problem?? A friend of yours is addicted to drugs so you hold an intervention, that obviously means there's nothing wrong with them and actually all their friends and family need to reflect on the issues in their own lifestyle?
Please get a grip on reality.
Preach
@sarah , I think you may be missing the point. Its not that I. Depth and doesn't apply to every life situation.
this woman literally has no life....."I'm gonna spend my afternoon trash talking another person on youtube.... someone i don't know... and whose entire life i will discuss based on her vlogs". she needs a hobby, and its not youtube.
Hemp Seeds and Quinoa are protein rich food.
I may not agree with all of Ellen's choices and I dont know if they her kids are getting all the recommended daily nutrients but, I do know they eat alot healthier than the average child in the US including my own grandkids. Her kids do comsume healthy fats from the avacados. I like many of your videos but, it dosent seem as if you did enough current research for this one video.
Avocado is high in saturated fat. So it's best kept to a minimum. Just because some kids may have a worse diet, doesn't mean Ellen's kids have a good diet.
@@jennoscura2381 of course consuming too much of one product is bad for any person, even water. I would think most people know this and if they dont I believe ellen dosent promote this. Even if she did, people should not blindly follow anyones diet without doing their own research because, one diet does not fit all. Also, I never said that her diet is perfect or the best. Please reread what I wrote, what I said is it's better than most kids diet in the United States, which is true, including my own grandkids.
They also have tahini nut butters hempseeds chia seeds flaxseed coconut etc. Which are all great sources of protein and healthy fats
I need to tell you that you’re amazing. I love how you look at every angle. You have such a healthy way of viewing the world. I have always enjoyed Ellen’s videos, recipes, and her sweetness but I love how you point this stuff out in a very logical and sound way. You aren’t rude and I do not think you are wrong. Thank you for everything!
She's rude. She's wrong. She needs to focus on her own life and channel.
she is absolutely rude, she is not a dietitian, she is a girl with an eating disorder painting a picture that ellen fisher is a criminal, her diet is actually shit go watch her videos
When you put your life and family in the for front you have to expect criticism especially if she is wrong and hurting her children. You don't ignore abuse and neglect just because someone seems nice! @@tami6951
Yeah when they will have money to go to college, they will be devastated knowing they came from videos of their childhood where they swim in the ocean, eat mangoes and basically have a great time. To address your concerns: Ellen says she doesn't film every part of her life, just the happy moments to respect her children, you would know that had you done the extensive research you said you had in this video. You know what's sad? A person who does multiple taste tests of vegan pizza and ben and jerry's and then makes videos bashing other people for their "imperfect diets". Your videos are an endless litany of you judging and criticizing others: every week you pick someone more or less popular on youtube and make a video about him/her just to get more views.
You make some good points
Wow. So much butthurt in the comments from ignorant EllenBots. And how can they have money for college when all of the money is being spent on mansions?
@@shyanmarie4405 . Judge much?
@@shyanmarie4405 MANSIONS?! lmao.... this is sarcasm right?... it has to be. They lived in a 2 bedroom tiny house - I live in a 4 room cabin in NY that costs me 600$ a month, and is bigger than the space they were living in. wtf are you talking about?!
Probably my first UA-cam Dislike ever. How often do you hear that a kid has never been sick!!!???? WoW Ellen Fisher must know what she is doing! 🙌🏼😵😍Around my family and friends all their kids are sick all the time. Also no need to even comment how much false information this video has about Ellen’s lifestyle and diet. Anyone here can go and put to Cronometer her food and it will definitely be enough protein. And the whole kids on videos topic... just full BS... maybe Unnatural Vegan should focus rest of her life making videos against parents including kids to their social media 😂 😆 and stop harassing other vegans. I have never like the negativity in this channel but in this video she has hit bottom.
She must be doing something right, her kids look unbelievably healthy, no rickets, pasty white skin, abundant energy, seemingly calm and curious, happy kids. Nothing must be wrong with a raw vegan diet the way they're doing it just looking at them.
pinetree909 I agree, I think that although Unnatural Vegan states that Ellen isn’t feeding her kids a well balanced diet, and are dangerously feeding her children the wrong diets, the majority of Americans also don’t receive a proper and balanced diet. So many people are lacking a fully complete diet, and even if Ellen weren’t feeding her kids properly in nutrients and caloric needs, they would be healthier than the average kid (not necessarily saying that’s a god thing to be feeding children a diet that is a caloric deficit for the kids either way). She has the ability and desire to feed her kids appropriately, in a way that works for them! Basing her research on 3-4 year old videos and blog posts isn’t the best way to criticize a channel, especially when Ellen now shows much more of their varied diet. She makes plenty of cooked meals including grains and beans, nutritional yeast, and takes a daily b12 supplement. I will say that I don’t agree with Ellen on not vaccinating her children, but at the same time she is not supporting or endorsing anti- vaccination to others.
All in all, I would much rather have eaten a diet similar to that Ellen is feeding her children than consume the diet of an average meat- eating American. Just because someone doesn’t do veganism the same way you do doesn’t mean it’s dangerous or wrong. They eat based on what they have experienced and researched, just like Unnatural Vegan does.
@@alligelwick5017 Agree sooo much!!
Let's not forget that her 2 youngest children are still receiving the most perfect nutrition in the form of breast milk.
@@Lilly-ud6qs but what is she eating to produce this breast milk ? A non ealthy diet ...
pinetree909 Good and healthy looks do not guarantee health, you cant see what happens inside.
Is there b12 in nutritional yeast?
HandmadeFam If it is fortified.
hi. I'd love to know your opinion on the hpv vaccine. my kids are fully vaccinated but I am on the fence about hpv as so many stories are going around about perfectly healthy teenage girls suffering terribly after having the vaccine apparently it also hasn't been tested properly or thought by some to be in any way effective. I'm just so confused by all the conflicting info
@@melissacabrera6076
its a fair point. it's just so conflicting when the government are pushing it. I'm from Ireland and even in our tiny little island so many stories have emerged about injured teens 😯
Watching your videos encouraged me to stop eating meat and fish. My parents are worried but I’ve been supplementing with a vegetarian Webber naturals multi for women and I want to take omega 3s when I find one that is vegan. I was just wondering what your opinion on lab grown meat is. I would like to consume it when it is available in Canada, but then again I’m not sure about it. It’d be really interesting to hear your opinion.
It feels better to relate to others with compassion, connection and understanding rather than judgment or superiority.
I find a lot of family channels so creepy. Sometimes I will watch vloggers whose kids are occasionally in their videos (on vacations, etc.) but I am uncomfortable with a lot of them.
Do you have any recommendation on books for vegan parents who are raising vegan kids? Or videos?
Hey UV! I wonder what your thoughts are on the new video by What I've learned on vegan vs. Omnivore diet!