i was a beastmaster in ffxi and it took all over vanadiel going to sky to kill god's with the tragopans up there lol and with puppetmaster/rdm,god i loved those job's
I was never able to play XI growing up but I looked into it so much and wanted to play, Puppetmaster was always such a great idea and I would love to see them bring it to XIV
If they ever choose to do so, they'll be resied to their original form and simply end up as a recolor. However, I doubt they will do so because Hunts are a content in itself and relying on other players (on top of being potentially unable to spawn them or encouraging some players to handle the creatures without the help of others) is the opposite of their philosophy... Except if "catching" a monster is as trivial as Blue Mage skill mimicking process. We still may have some players trying to sneakily kill monsters meant for larger group so I really don't think they'll do something alike though it's likely if there is no "catching" system.
Wouldn't make sense because only 1 person could claim them and they def won't release a job for millions to play and only 1 mob per server per zone to claim. Plus with server travel ya probably wont
When I heard beastmaster is coming, it instantly made me think of Summoner back in 2.0 and 3.0. Back then, we had full control of our Egi which was a lot similar to chocobo companion today. I used to use Titan Egi to cheese some mechanics in a raid such as taking on tank busters. If beastmaster is remotely similar to old summoner, I would be very happy.
I'm most excited for it *because* its a limited job. With how much the real classes and roles are homogenized limited jobs are often the most fun job because of how out of there they are.
Your idea makes alot of sense. Ever since they made summoners no longer a pet battle job since it felt like they were moving away from that, i strongly think it will basically be how you said, a Summoner/Bard-esk job. Like you use the jug and get a certain amount of time before you need to use another jug. Maybe even using the art shown from your friend, you will need to choose 3 jugs to have during combat and need to swap out with you Beast Master skills much like Blue Mage. This will make it so you can have a tank, healer, dps set up or any combination of such. I basically figured it was going to be like Bluemage again to a point. I think I like your idea more of actually using the creature on monsters in the wild to unlock it. Different creatures/jugs would make it so your attacks do different things. While using a Bear jug you would become more tanky, a wolf jug increases your dps etc etc. Or even while using certain jugs it would apply a dot or a hot to targets/allies. I would love to see this get a 1 handed weapon and a whip. The whip feels like its a must include. But then again this is coming from a guy who really REALLY wants the Blitzball to become a weapon for the game. Make it a new ranged class... i mean... just basically copy Wakka from FF10 lol
Here's my theory: We will get three base beast types: An assault type beast (DPS), a guardian beast (Tank) and a support beast (Healer). Possibly a single main chimeric sort of shapeshifting beast as the main gimmick of the class, and we unlock these modes, giving the class it's equiv of Aetheric Mimicry, but instead of copying another character's class role, we'd just have them like a stance. From there, our beast can learn skills and techniques for use in battle by battling and taming other beasts in the open world, the equiv of the blue mage book, just approached slightly differently, having your beast fight while you use your tamer skills before it faints, whether that's an observe or capture type mechanic. I kind of like that idea of the soups, but instead of the soup summoning a monster, it's fed to your monster to teach it the new skills (Not literally like as an item, I mean, aside form maybe something similar to the totems blue mages need for some of their spells), and this would be how you kit out your beast companion.
I think that's an awesome idea! It would be cool to have a single monster that sort of morphs into different forms based on the attacks you want it to use for sure!
I can see a few possibilities; 1. Either, due to being limited job, it might just be purely focused on the RNG collectathon, and they may allow access to duties and trials later 2. It works similar to Summoner, were instead of wild beasts, you learn to call a familiar type, and have skills dedicated for different beasts Like; ram rush in, an Tonberry single stab, Corels lightning aoe, etc. 3. Could be a stance thing, similar to Chocobo companion, and depending on the stance it changes the beast and skills you have out. So you can customize a party of just Beastmasters, with tanks, healers, DPS.
I am so excited for Beastmaster. I stopped playing back in Shadowbringers, like at the end of the main patch, and told my friend I'd return if Beastmaster was announced. Low and behold, I'm now caught up and am just vibrating and waiting for it to arrive.
Yeah in reality probably ain't see this job until 2026 which is kind of a bummer but man am I stoked for it. The same with the final fantasy 11 collab.
I love the idea of Beastmaster from all previous Final Fantasy games! I will play this in FFXIV! I am not happy that it is a Limited Job though! Hopefully we get some job vids for all of the new classes coming in 7.0 soon including Beastmaster!
Something I'm thinking of is what's going to be the benefit of doing content on Beastmaster? Doing a raid or trial on Blue Mage comes with the chance to get an ability from a boss, but what could doing say Ifrit on Beastmaster possibly give you? A lot of talk about Capturing Beasts, we forget that Raising and Training are also important parts. I think it'd be really cool if we get generic base slate Beasts to collect, say a Jackal or a Dodo, and then through combat we train them, and what combat that is informs the end result. Like crafting a Blue Mage companion but more subtle about it. Run Dun Scaith a dozen times with a Goobue and it grows into some kind of Shadow Goobue. Run the Bowl of Embers with a Crab, now you've trained up a Firecrab. I don't actually see it happening, but I do really want to see what sort of collectibles and unlockables Beastmaster can expect from content that isn't straight lace "Here's a beast for you" That said, EX trials drop mounts. 🤔
I know this is entirely unrelated, but I always imagined BST in 14 would work like the (Hunter?) in Guild Wars 2. Basically if you tame a baby monster, it will be accessible in a literal catalog
That's a similar idea to what I proposed, so not totally unrelated! It would be cool to have your pet sort of "grow up" along side you. Almost like a very violent tamogatchi pet or something lol
Charm was not automatic, there was a lot of RNG in it, also no warning when the critter decided to turn against you and cause instant death My longest was 5 min the shortest was 15 seconds.. Jug pets became popular when 1) you could not find a creature to charm, 2) you needed one in an area and had been pulled clean by a higher Bst leaving nothing for the lower level characters. 3) people complained about inconsistent Pets and jugs provided consistency. Bst was envisioned as a solo play job for people that didn't like to depend on a party. While it was allowed in zones like Dynamis and Abyssia it was not allowed in a regular dungeon or trial. The mage attacking the fighting dummy was a summoner, not a BST. My husband played exclusively BST in FFXI, it will be interesting to see what he does in FFXIV. Bst wore Monk/ninja type clothing in XI. --- it was announced that BST will not be released til 7.5...
Thanks for the comment! I'm not sure if these were meant to be corrections or not, but just to address some... 1. Yes, I don't recall saying Charm was automatic, and even mentioned that it could fail multiple times. It was affected by a lot of things, most of which were extremely abstract, like many early 2000's MMOs. 2. Yeah, I imagine that 14 would have a similar issue that 11 did, which is why I envision they will have some sort of "pet-on-demand" function in 14, to avoid those issues, much like Jug Pets did. 3. BST was originally designed for solo play, yeah, but in 14 it's been confirmed it will be able to do content with other BST's and potentially BLU's as well. 4. BST is not in the game at this time, so I just used some Summoner footage because it's the only other "pet" class in the game. 5. I haven't seen any confirmation about when BST will be releasing, but if you have a link to an interview or something I missed confirming it will release in 7.5, I'd love to take a look at it!
I can see it being just one pet which will grow from cutesy baby to big beast. Killing certain monsters and bosses could be milestones needed to make it grow or even evolve to be one of the three roles. It’ll make it less about collecting things like BLU but still grindy and a time sink. Player weapon will probably be cuffs or something both you and the pet can wear matching This is my guess anyways 😂🤷🏻♀️
I dont know how it is these days in Wow. But when i played from Wrath to Mist, you tame them and they Had a shared stat line depending on the role the Pet had. Id be cool with Capturing them. Hell.. Maybe bring a blackmage to sleep them.
We have to bear in mind that Limited Job always cover a niche, which is why it's not meant for current content nor to be playable with traditional jobs. Blue Mages are Jacks of all trade and I guess there could be a place for Beastmaster to be more like a "solo content" job for replayability purpose. This way, each beast could fill a role like NPCs in Duty Support mode. Otherwise, it might be like WoW's hunter that can have a specific monster to add a specific buff to the team. Then, the question remains for the overall skillset : will we be able to use a a few (1~5) action per creature or will we be having actions that would work with any beast (like orders to give) , if not a mix of both (same order causing distinctive actions depending on the monster) which seems more likely to me. However, I doubt we'll have distinctions like "X monster is better for AoE, Y monster is best for single target" etc since most interesting encounters require single target. Besides, if there was a creature "best in slot", it would annihilate the very purpose of a limited job which blue mage barely avoids, making it widely shun because most players feel forced to acquire specific skills rather than have a collection of useful ones.
I totally gotcha, but I also wonder how similar it's really going to be to BLU or how much it will differ. As it stands we have no idea how they structure the design because we only have one limited job, so it's hard to say if they see them as different riffs on the same coin or they need to fill two totally seperate niches
@@sharlayanforum You're right, they totally could've made it a limited job to have more freedom to design it and to avoid to feel forced to create a weapon for each content (Blue Mage has something like 5 weapons although it was created during Shadowbringers) I really enjoy your video especially the part about the design to be honest ; we need some fluff on these armors :D !
Before I even watch this, I'm pausing to make this comment. Since it's abundantly clear that FFXIV Limited Jobs are different from their predecessor variants. For instance, older Blue Mages required you to be hit by the spell, not so in FFXIV. I do not expect them to use the jug system or any form of consumable, or charming system. Since it's more likely that the FFXIV BST will have permanent pets, I do not expect them to have a timer, and you'll be able to summon them in and out at will, as long as you aren't in combat. 1. Do not expect anything. 2. Follow Number 1. I don't expect axes or whips. I expect bells. What I expect will happen in-lore, is that the bells will be able to emit sounds similar to how different mount whistles work. However, you won't need many different whistles, as the bells can be made to change their tone without having to change much in their form besides size. Also, one of the Black Waltzes in FFIX, uses a bell to summon a beast.
I'm excited for more limited jobs, it feels more and more lately that "normal" jobs are limited by needing to follow balance rules and also fit in the 2 minute meta, job archetype language, etc. It's really freeing seeing the weird stuff they can do when they remove the assumption it needs to apply to current content. Blue mage feels more caster than any caster, it's very horizontally designed compared to other casters with tons of other potential strats than just big damage. Even between the dps loadouts there's variation based on spell needs and the situation, who has dots covered, etc. And, even its oGCDs has cast times.I'm really excited to see how beastmaster plays and interacts with blue mage.
I get the sentiment, but i think them making it a limited job gives them more room to do really unique and more interesting things with it. If they had to force BST into normal content, it would be a very lame, neutered version of itself.
Honestly i really like BLU and the concept of Limited Jobs and how silly they can be that at this point i think ill be fine with BST no matter how it plays Im just excited to see what kind of bestiary we'll have access to on launch, what kind of variety we'll have I wanna see Beastmaster nerds running around with their favorite mob like you sometimes see SMNs Glamouring their Carbuncle into an Egi they really like I really want to see some Voidsent That besides im kind of surprised you didnt really bring up Chocobos and the Companion window cuz honestly i feel like BSTs monsters could work off of that just as much as it might work like SMN I mean probably not but the framework for having a companion with small skill trees, an exp meter and different tactics is there for them yo potentially make use of
That was another avenue I considered for sure! What's interesting is that it could even still work with the Jug system, since Gyshal Greens are sort of a "jug" concept. My thought was that making the items consumable may cause some kind of weird economy on servers and lock jugs out of reach for some players, or require additional work outside of the job itself to summon some beasts.
I'm pretty sure they cannot make beastmaster melee (or at least, not fully melee) due to encounter design. They might use melee gear, but if they want to allow same access to beastmaster as BLU has, they need to have an option to be at range for extended amounts of time, as having 4 people walk out and not be able to do damage during mechanics makes the group suffer way more than having a full BLU party for the same content.
Possibly! I think that we should probably expect their baseline skills to be melee, and then all of their interactions with their beasts to be able to be executed at range. Or maybe they go with the whip and everything can be done at basically max melee, which would be a fun gameplay style to explore.
My predictions: When you talk to an NPC to be a Beastmaster, you'll need to choose 1 of the 3 starter beasts then they'll walk you through on the basics of the Job. To get more pets, you need to put your pet against a wild beast. Once the wild beast of weak enough, you throw a special ball to tame it. The Job quests line will have you going around the continent to collect 8 badges from Beast Leaders so you can face against the 4 Beats Kings and the Beast Champion to prove that you're the very best like no one ever was.
I wonder. Would it : We get it at Level 50 let us absorb beast mid combat let Mount as BST pets? I also wouldn't want any consumable involved in summoning pets.
While I agree that the devs do seem to be trying to shy away from pets and their ai, I could see bst being used as a testing ground for exactly that similar to hildibrand being an animation playground. As a limited job, they won't have the needed dedication to make it work with existing dungeons like they would with a normal job. My original idea was similar to your hunting log idea, though more simplified to just taming random things and they would be pets with various skill sets and type. Akin to old summoner. That would give you the same wide array of random things to tame as blue mages have for their skills. I like yours better though. Another idea I thought might be if the devs are still shying away from pet ai is if it'll be a blue mage/puppetmaster hybrid kind of thing. Where you tame beasts to collect them and then kind of swap parts of whatever skillset/stats you want/need. Puppetmaster was I believe the second job added to ffxi that could solo. So a limited job to tweak and work through pet ai code without breaking a normal line job would make sense if you want to add a normal line pet job in the future.
Definitely! PUP in XI got added later and could solo some stuff, but the automaton didn't get as strong as BST pets until much later on in the game. I'd love to see PUP added to 14, as they could do some really fun stuff with it!
As someone who considers themselves a BLU main, I am very curious to see what they do with the job because the concept in my head has essentially been "what if summoner had access to cracked out weirdness like BLU". Also, personally, I wouldn't look at another MMO for how the job will transfer to XIV because BST was balanced and designed as a regular job for XI. I would look to other entries in the series to get an idea about the core identity of the job since those singleplayer RPGs allowed access to the kinds of weird and overpowered spells/abilities that can't really exist in XIVs environment outside of BLU/special zones like Eureka. I say this because BLU in XI is very interesting, but they had to do a lot of extra designing on a fairly simple concept to make it not insane, so it has things like stats tied to spell choice etc which isn't a thing for blue mages in any other entry to the best of my knowledge. BLU in XIV is much more "traditional" in that you just learn stuff and can use it. It's one major limitation is simply how many spells you're allowed to carry at once because they do still have to design around things like "hey our players can only push so many buttons reasonably". We can use the same kind of logic and apply it to BST, I don't think it'll be anything too crazy design wise but you never know.
It definitely could be the case! I mostly took the route of comparing to XI because I find it's the design that leaves the most room for adjustment, especially since in some games, BST straight up copied the skills of enemies, essentially just taking the place of a Blue Mage in the titles they functioned that way in. I certainly can't be sure one way or the other, but the idea of a more Frontline fighter with additional help from a beast seemed more like the core identity that makes the most sense
I think it will work similar to BLU. maybe the beast will be separate like Mimicry. some beast will be pure dps, other tanky, and other healers. I hope it works like you stated where we have to level the beast to its highest form. Now do u think BSM will start at level 1??
I was a FFXIV version 1 player and have waited this whole time, 14 years, for them to bring Beast Master into the game. It was my favorite class in FFXI along with Puppet Master. I have to say It is disappointing that is it is just going to be a "Half ass class" along with Blue Mage. Knowing I can't take it to max level, knowing that I can't do the new story with it, can't do the new dungeons or raids... it is just deeply disappointing. I'm happy that is it finally coming to the game, but sad on how it will be implemented. I'd really love Beast or Puppet master to be my main job.
I totally understand that feeling, as a long time PUP and BLU player in XI. I think within the design philosophy of 14 it makes sense for these jobs to be designated in a different way though.
@@sharlayanforum Agree to disagree. I'll respect your opinion even if I don't share it. I don't see why they could not have been normal jobs. I have full faith in Yoshi P and his team that they could have pulled it off... don't you?
They certainly *could* be, but they would require a ton of modifications and be essentially unrecognizable in order to fit into the holy trinity that exists in 14.
@@sharlayanforum Good. The game could use a little mix-up. They have made each class so bland it is basically the same as the next. If you tank, you just choose your weapon now, all the abilities are basically the same as the other tanks just with a different "flavor" to suit the theme. I find it dull, and hand-holding. I'd love to see something break the mold with a new form of DPS or Tank. I think Beast Master or Puppet Master would be a perfect fit.
I understand that mentality, for sure, and agree that many of the jobs feel very homogenized. I just don't think that the dev team is going to take massive swings on risks for balancing in the future. We can go back and forth about whether they should or shouldn't, but what matters is what they think is balanced, as they are the designers of the content and jobs at the end of the day. I'm all for people voicing their opinions, but I find the argument that "every job is the same" is generally only held by people who played in Heavensward when the game was subjectively more fun and complex but objectively designed more poorly for the average player, or by people who play at the top 5% of the player base where they are consistently clearing all the content in the game and have everything maxed. I also want to clarify that, to me, as a long time FF player, the idea of the soul of the job remaining intact and being analogous to its previous interactions is FAR more important to me than it being in the game by name only. I fear that if BLU and BST, or eventually PUP were in the game, they would be so far removed from what makes them what they are to fit into the design philosophy of 14 that they would not be the jobs that we know them as. I'd argue that forcing these jobs into the holy trinity system would be a much more "half-assed" attempt at their design than cutting out a niche and letting them shine seperately.
I think the biggest issue the BST will face in FFXIV is a lack of motivation to play it. In FFXI the world was dangerous, and BST offered players a way to solo many of the contents of the game, which usually required a party. This isn't the case in FFXIV. The open world of FFXIV is already designed to be soloable with any job in the game, so playing a BST has no benefit. They have to add some sort of difficult content for BST alone to participate in. I was thinking of something like a FFXIV "safari zone" featuring some rare types of creatures that are tough to fight. Maybe some kind of "shiny" version of creatures to tame. I fear the BST might end up like the blue mage for me. I enjoyed unlocking all the spells, but in the end, it all comes down to beating certain savage raids with a full blue mage party for a mount. The carnival was fun for clearing it once, but had little replay value for me.
I think that you make good points. I reclear the carnivale challenges every week for the currencies, but outside of that BLU doesn't see a ton of play for me. I think they could add a lot of value to BST by giving it a much longer chase than filling the spell book like BLU does. That's why I think a system like the challenge log or a beastmasters log will be pivotal in its success.
You know what? We had a pet-class before.. but square took it away (Sum). How long till they do that to beast master because square doesn't know how to pet-class.
I think that the reason they're making BST a limited class is specifically because of that reason. The reality is that the engine doesn't support a pet class like SMN because of the requirements for performance in current high end content. By eliminating that as a factor, they allow themselves more freedom to create interesting things
The good of having a set 4 month patch cycle: knowing when things are coming The bad part of having a set 4 month patch cycle: waiting for things you know are coming
I miss that ffxiv has no true pet based class anymore, and no, summoner and scholar don't count anymore ever since their pets just became another heal or attack effect without any independent abilities.
The announcement of Beastmaster as a limited job really surprised me, given the developers apparent disdain for pet classes, given the neutering of the feature with arcanist/summoner.
I think that the new way those jobs function has basically allowed them to move forward with things like Beastmaster and Puppetmaster. Without the changes they made, I doubt we'd ever see those jobs.
That may be the case! I only played tactics for a tiny bit and barely remember, that was just art featured in searches for Beastmaster throughout the series lol
I could potentially see a lure system being possible if they go with a more involved trapping style system than something more basic like the Charm system
Bluemage is really *REALLY* good in a niche amount of situations. Like the Yokai event where you can ruin everyone else's time by oneshoting bosses and easily tag mobs in fates. Don't get me wrong I don't want anymore limited jobs as I feel like Bluemage is all we need. I am sure beastmaster is just gonna be a variation so we don't *just* have Bluemage.
It depends on your perspective, I suppose. If you come from the angle of current content being the only desire, then yes, I would agree with your sentiment. But a lot of different players like a lot of different things!
Blue mages can be used in raids that they meet the level requirements for. Just because you don't do the content it was designed for doesn't mean it's pointless.
This video was recorded right after I got a new mic, and I was working out some kinks in the recording/processing situation. All better now. Thanks for the feedback though! 🫡
It will not be as fun FFXI , those ffx14 combat routine and side are boring as fuck and will never allow the fun of building our own combat routine and developpe our style like in FFXI. FFXIV think only about being easy ,causual ,run of any pc and sell lot copie without effort.
@@sharlayanforum i dont dislike and i guess i would find it perfect if i never played that much FFXI . But i had a feeling in ffxi that was totaly different at immertion and effort to get powerfull.
FFXI did a better job at designing the classes than FFXIV did and limiting them isn't a cool design I heavily contemplated playing the game due to its limitations compared to FFXI as it was more in tune with modern games with its true flexibility, not saying FFXIVis bad but it's not nearly as openminded with its limitations and locking everything behind some kind of wall, that being said the story up to shadowbringers has been great but Endwalker was very underwhelming. the community is its most redeeming quality.
They're two very different design philosophies for sure. Games like XI are a totally different experience compared to something like XIV. I think that if you isolated the jobs from XI and pretended like they all existed in a vacuum there's a lot of crossover, but the subjob system and a lot of the different choices that were made in basic gameplay shift the design so much that they become very separate experiences.
Being frank, I think it’s a bad idea for the devs to continue with limited jobs at all. It feels like a waste of resources to dedicate to something that appeals to so few players as is, and while I’m aware BLU is designed very cautiously, as it could easily break the game, at the same time, it really just isn’t enjoyable to play as, and the content made for it is 90% grinding for levels and spell gathering. There’s basically nothing about it worth doing after a point, not helping that over half the spells they get are garbage.
I can understand why someone might feel that way, but I think it's important to remember that FF14 is a big game with a lot of people playing it. Everyone has their little micro-niche of content that they love. A lot of people like BLU's gameplay a lot! I think the biggest trap for limited jobs is going to be a way to make their "gimmick" unique enough from the other job. If all BST turns out to be is "go kill a thing and then you can use one of it's attacks" it'll just be BLU with a skin. Thanks for the comment!
@@sharlayanforum If people enjoy BLU, that’s fine by me. I’m not saying people shouldn’t bother, I’m just voicing my own dislike for how limited jobs have turned out thus far.
I understand! I certainly wasn't saying that everyone has to enjoy everything in the game, just that the devs have to consider everyone's playstyle and likes when developing content. Some stuff isn't for some people, and that's okay!
i was a beastmaster in ffxi and it took all over vanadiel going to sky to kill god's with the tragopans up there lol and with puppetmaster/rdm,god i loved those job's
A lot of nostalgia for sure
I was never able to play XI growing up but I looked into it so much and wanted to play, Puppetmaster was always such a great idea and I would love to see them bring it to XIV
The rare hunts are probably the beasts to get with the best stats/abilities
Integrating it with hunts could be neat
If they ever choose to do so, they'll be resied to their original form and simply end up as a recolor.
However, I doubt they will do so because Hunts are a content in itself and relying on other players (on top of being potentially unable to spawn them or encouraging some players to handle the creatures without the help of others) is the opposite of their philosophy... Except if "catching" a monster is as trivial as Blue Mage skill mimicking process. We still may have some players trying to sneakily kill monsters meant for larger group so I really don't think they'll do something alike though it's likely if there is no "catching" system.
Wouldn't make sense because only 1 person could claim them and they def won't release a job for millions to play and only 1 mob per server per zone to claim. Plus with server travel ya probably wont
@@Frankthetank302 If they chose to do so, then it would work like Blue Mage's skill assimilation as I said.
When I heard beastmaster is coming, it instantly made me think of Summoner back in 2.0 and 3.0. Back then, we had full control of our Egi which was a lot similar to chocobo companion today. I used to use Titan Egi to cheese some mechanics in a raid such as taking on tank busters. If beastmaster is remotely similar to old summoner, I would be very happy.
As a scholar main, 2 things I want from 7.X: 1 - bring back summoner old pet mechs and 2 bring back summoner DoT mechs
As much as we complained about old Pet AI, if they brought it back for a limited job I think it'd be more charming than when it's on a "real" job.
It would be neat, but with how heavily they've rotated away from relying on pet AI I doubt we'll see it reintroduced in a meaningful way.
Fun video! Loved that antler holding rack for the vials in the art.
Glad you enjoyed it!
I was excited for it until I learned it’s a limited job…
I can understand that for sure. It could be cool to see it as a full job, but I think making it a limited job gives them some extra flexability
I'm most excited for it *because* its a limited job. With how much the real classes and roles are homogenized limited jobs are often the most fun job because of how out of there they are.
I really liked your first idea. Using the log to collect and move up and upgrade to get a jug.
Your idea makes alot of sense. Ever since they made summoners no longer a pet battle job since it felt like they were moving away from that, i strongly think it will basically be how you said, a Summoner/Bard-esk job. Like you use the jug and get a certain amount of time before you need to use another jug. Maybe even using the art shown from your friend, you will need to choose 3 jugs to have during combat and need to swap out with you Beast Master skills much like Blue Mage. This will make it so you can have a tank, healer, dps set up or any combination of such.
I basically figured it was going to be like Bluemage again to a point. I think I like your idea more of actually using the creature on monsters in the wild to unlock it. Different creatures/jugs would make it so your attacks do different things. While using a Bear jug you would become more tanky, a wolf jug increases your dps etc etc. Or even while using certain jugs it would apply a dot or a hot to targets/allies. I would love to see this get a 1 handed weapon and a whip. The whip feels like its a must include. But then again this is coming from a guy who really REALLY wants the Blitzball to become a weapon for the game. Make it a new ranged class... i mean... just basically copy Wakka from FF10 lol
I appreciate the kind words!
Blitzballer confirmed for expansion in 2035
Here's my theory:
We will get three base beast types: An assault type beast (DPS), a guardian beast (Tank) and a support beast (Healer). Possibly a single main chimeric sort of shapeshifting beast as the main gimmick of the class, and we unlock these modes, giving the class it's equiv of Aetheric Mimicry, but instead of copying another character's class role, we'd just have them like a stance.
From there, our beast can learn skills and techniques for use in battle by battling and taming other beasts in the open world, the equiv of the blue mage book, just approached slightly differently, having your beast fight while you use your tamer skills before it faints, whether that's an observe or capture type mechanic.
I kind of like that idea of the soups, but instead of the soup summoning a monster, it's fed to your monster to teach it the new skills (Not literally like as an item, I mean, aside form maybe something similar to the totems blue mages need for some of their spells), and this would be how you kit out your beast companion.
I think that's an awesome idea! It would be cool to have a single monster that sort of morphs into different forms based on the attacks you want it to use for sure!
I can see a few possibilities;
1. Either, due to being limited job, it might just be purely focused on the RNG collectathon, and they may allow access to duties and trials later
2. It works similar to Summoner, were instead of wild beasts, you learn to call a familiar type, and have skills dedicated for different beasts
Like; ram rush in, an Tonberry single stab, Corels lightning aoe, etc.
3. Could be a stance thing, similar to Chocobo companion, and depending on the stance it changes the beast and skills you have out. So you can customize a party of just Beastmasters, with tanks, healers, DPS.
Im always reminded of the way rangers tamed in gw1. Where some of them were legitmately challenging to do on your own.
I hope some of the higher level stuff is tough for sure!
Im not crying. You are.
I am so excited for Beastmaster. I stopped playing back in Shadowbringers, like at the end of the main patch, and told my friend I'd return if Beastmaster was announced. Low and behold, I'm now caught up and am just vibrating and waiting for it to arrive.
We ball
Yeah in reality probably ain't see this job until 2026 which is kind of a bummer but man am I stoked for it. The same with the final fantasy 11 collab.
It'll probably be late 2025 or early 2026, unless they really pull out their guns and surprise us with an early launch.
Thanks for the comment!
I love the idea of Beastmaster from all previous Final Fantasy games! I will play this in FFXIV! I am not happy that it is a Limited Job though! Hopefully we get some job vids for all of the new classes coming in 7.0 soon including Beastmaster!
The liveletter this week will definitely have some info!
I really like your idea for a BST log
Thanks a bunch!
Something I'm thinking of is what's going to be the benefit of doing content on Beastmaster? Doing a raid or trial on Blue Mage comes with the chance to get an ability from a boss, but what could doing say Ifrit on Beastmaster possibly give you? A lot of talk about Capturing Beasts, we forget that Raising and Training are also important parts. I think it'd be really cool if we get generic base slate Beasts to collect, say a Jackal or a Dodo, and then through combat we train them, and what combat that is informs the end result. Like crafting a Blue Mage companion but more subtle about it. Run Dun Scaith a dozen times with a Goobue and it grows into some kind of Shadow Goobue. Run the Bowl of Embers with a Crab, now you've trained up a Firecrab. I don't actually see it happening, but I do really want to see what sort of collectibles and unlockables Beastmaster can expect from content that isn't straight lace "Here's a beast for you"
That said, EX trials drop mounts. 🤔
I anticipate either mounts or skins/special versions of beasts with unique abilities.
I know this is entirely unrelated, but I always imagined BST in 14 would work like the (Hunter?) in Guild Wars 2. Basically if you tame a baby monster, it will be accessible in a literal catalog
That's a similar idea to what I proposed, so not totally unrelated! It would be cool to have your pet sort of "grow up" along side you. Almost like a very violent tamogatchi pet or something lol
@@sharlayanforum If the pets can grow up or evolve in any way people are going to lose their damn minds lmao
I've been waiting for beastmaster. It may be a limited job, but blue mage has its moments and I hope to have twice as much fun with my menagerie.
That's a great outlook! Thanks for the watch and comment!
Charm was not automatic, there was a lot of RNG in it, also no warning when the critter decided to turn against you and cause instant death My longest was 5 min the shortest was 15 seconds..
Jug pets became popular when 1) you could not find a creature to charm, 2) you needed one in an area and had been pulled clean by a higher Bst leaving nothing for the lower level characters. 3) people complained about inconsistent Pets and jugs provided consistency.
Bst was envisioned as a solo play job for people that didn't like to depend on a party. While it was allowed in zones like Dynamis and Abyssia it was not allowed in a regular dungeon or trial.
The mage attacking the fighting dummy was a summoner, not a BST. My husband played exclusively BST in FFXI, it will be interesting to see what he does in FFXIV.
Bst wore Monk/ninja type clothing in XI.
--- it was announced that BST will not be released til 7.5...
Thanks for the comment! I'm not sure if these were meant to be corrections or not, but just to address some...
1. Yes, I don't recall saying Charm was automatic, and even mentioned that it could fail multiple times. It was affected by a lot of things, most of which were extremely abstract, like many early 2000's MMOs.
2. Yeah, I imagine that 14 would have a similar issue that 11 did, which is why I envision they will have some sort of "pet-on-demand" function in 14, to avoid those issues, much like Jug Pets did.
3. BST was originally designed for solo play, yeah, but in 14 it's been confirmed it will be able to do content with other BST's and potentially BLU's as well.
4. BST is not in the game at this time, so I just used some Summoner footage because it's the only other "pet" class in the game.
5. I haven't seen any confirmation about when BST will be releasing, but if you have a link to an interview or something I missed confirming it will release in 7.5, I'd love to take a look at it!
I can see it being just one pet which will grow from cutesy baby to big beast.
Killing certain monsters and bosses could be milestones needed to make it grow or even evolve to be one of the three roles.
It’ll make it less about collecting things like BLU but still grindy and a time sink.
Player weapon will probably be cuffs or something both you and the pet can wear matching
This is my guess anyways 😂🤷🏻♀️
I dont know how it is these days in Wow. But when i played from Wrath to Mist, you tame them and they Had a shared stat line depending on the role the Pet had. Id be cool with Capturing them. Hell.. Maybe bring a blackmage to sleep them.
We have to bear in mind that Limited Job always cover a niche, which is why it's not meant for current content nor to be playable with traditional jobs. Blue Mages are Jacks of all trade and I guess there could be a place for Beastmaster to be more like a "solo content" job for replayability purpose. This way, each beast could fill a role like NPCs in Duty Support mode. Otherwise, it might be like WoW's hunter that can have a specific monster to add a specific buff to the team. Then, the question remains for the overall skillset : will we be able to use a a few (1~5) action per creature or will we be having actions that would work with any beast (like orders to give) , if not a mix of both (same order causing distinctive actions depending on the monster) which seems more likely to me.
However, I doubt we'll have distinctions like "X monster is better for AoE, Y monster is best for single target" etc since most interesting encounters require single target. Besides, if there was a creature "best in slot", it would annihilate the very purpose of a limited job which blue mage barely avoids, making it widely shun because most players feel forced to acquire specific skills rather than have a collection of useful ones.
I totally gotcha, but I also wonder how similar it's really going to be to BLU or how much it will differ. As it stands we have no idea how they structure the design because we only have one limited job, so it's hard to say if they see them as different riffs on the same coin or they need to fill two totally seperate niches
@@sharlayanforum You're right, they totally could've made it a limited job to have more freedom to design it and to avoid to feel forced to create a weapon for each content (Blue Mage has something like 5 weapons although it was created during Shadowbringers)
I really enjoy your video especially the part about the design to be honest ; we need some fluff on these armors :D !
Fluff on armor or riot
Before I even watch this, I'm pausing to make this comment. Since it's abundantly clear that FFXIV Limited Jobs are different from their predecessor variants. For instance, older Blue Mages required you to be hit by the spell, not so in FFXIV. I do not expect them to use the jug system or any form of consumable, or charming system. Since it's more likely that the FFXIV BST will have permanent pets, I do not expect them to have a timer, and you'll be able to summon them in and out at will, as long as you aren't in combat.
1. Do not expect anything.
2. Follow Number 1.
I don't expect axes or whips. I expect bells. What I expect will happen in-lore, is that the bells will be able to emit sounds similar to how different mount whistles work. However, you won't need many different whistles, as the bells can be made to change their tone without having to change much in their form besides size. Also, one of the Black Waltzes in FFIX, uses a bell to summon a beast.
All interesting ideas!
I want XIs BST in XIV. Charming beasts in the wild and having bst pots.
The loop of charming something and leveling it up just sounds too good to pass up
I'm excited for more limited jobs, it feels more and more lately that "normal" jobs are limited by needing to follow balance rules and also fit in the 2 minute meta, job archetype language, etc. It's really freeing seeing the weird stuff they can do when they remove the assumption it needs to apply to current content. Blue mage feels more caster than any caster, it's very horizontally designed compared to other casters with tons of other potential strats than just big damage. Even between the dps loadouts there's variation based on spell needs and the situation, who has dots covered, etc. And, even its oGCDs has cast times.I'm really excited to see how beastmaster plays and interacts with blue mage.
I think that limited jobs are a great canvas to explore a ton of creativity for sure!
I've been hoping for beastmaster for so long even before Bozja, feels like such a kick in the nuts that it's limited
I get the sentiment, but i think them making it a limited job gives them more room to do really unique and more interesting things with it.
If they had to force BST into normal content, it would be a very lame, neutered version of itself.
@@sharlayanforum agreed. Making it a regular job would turn it into a shell of itself.
Honestly i really like BLU and the concept of Limited Jobs and how silly they can be that at this point i think ill be fine with BST no matter how it plays
Im just excited to see what kind of bestiary we'll have access to on launch, what kind of variety we'll have
I wanna see Beastmaster nerds running around with their favorite mob like you sometimes see SMNs Glamouring their Carbuncle into an Egi they really like
I really want to see some Voidsent
That besides im kind of surprised you didnt really bring up Chocobos and the Companion window cuz honestly i feel like BSTs monsters could work off of that just as much as it might work like SMN
I mean probably not but the framework for having a companion with small skill trees, an exp meter and different tactics is there for them yo potentially make use of
That was another avenue I considered for sure! What's interesting is that it could even still work with the Jug system, since Gyshal Greens are sort of a "jug" concept. My thought was that making the items consumable may cause some kind of weird economy on servers and lock jugs out of reach for some players, or require additional work outside of the job itself to summon some beasts.
I'm pretty sure they cannot make beastmaster melee (or at least, not fully melee) due to encounter design. They might use melee gear, but if they want to allow same access to beastmaster as BLU has, they need to have an option to be at range for extended amounts of time, as having 4 people walk out and not be able to do damage during mechanics makes the group suffer way more than having a full BLU party for the same content.
Possibly! I think that we should probably expect their baseline skills to be melee, and then all of their interactions with their beasts to be able to be executed at range.
Or maybe they go with the whip and everything can be done at basically max melee, which would be a fun gameplay style to explore.
My predictions:
When you talk to an NPC to be a Beastmaster, you'll need to choose 1 of the 3 starter beasts then they'll walk you through on the basics of the Job.
To get more pets, you need to put your pet against a wild beast. Once the wild beast of weak enough, you throw a special ball to tame it.
The Job quests line will have you going around the continent to collect 8 badges from Beast Leaders so you can face against the 4 Beats Kings and the Beast Champion to prove that you're the very best like no one ever was.
Surely it's never been done before
I wonder. Would it :
We get it at Level 50
let us absorb beast mid combat
let Mount as BST pets?
I also wouldn't want any consumable involved in summoning pets.
Consumables would be rough for sure
While I agree that the devs do seem to be trying to shy away from pets and their ai, I could see bst being used as a testing ground for exactly that similar to hildibrand being an animation playground. As a limited job, they won't have the needed dedication to make it work with existing dungeons like they would with a normal job.
My original idea was similar to your hunting log idea, though more simplified to just taming random things and they would be pets with various skill sets and type. Akin to old summoner. That would give you the same wide array of random things to tame as blue mages have for their skills. I like yours better though.
Another idea I thought might be if the devs are still shying away from pet ai is if it'll be a blue mage/puppetmaster hybrid kind of thing. Where you tame beasts to collect them and then kind of swap parts of whatever skillset/stats you want/need. Puppetmaster was I believe the second job added to ffxi that could solo. So a limited job to tweak and work through pet ai code without breaking a normal line job would make sense if you want to add a normal line pet job in the future.
Definitely! PUP in XI got added later and could solo some stuff, but the automaton didn't get as strong as BST pets until much later on in the game. I'd love to see PUP added to 14, as they could do some really fun stuff with it!
As someone who considers themselves a BLU main, I am very curious to see what they do with the job because the concept in my head has essentially been "what if summoner had access to cracked out weirdness like BLU". Also, personally, I wouldn't look at another MMO for how the job will transfer to XIV because BST was balanced and designed as a regular job for XI. I would look to other entries in the series to get an idea about the core identity of the job since those singleplayer RPGs allowed access to the kinds of weird and overpowered spells/abilities that can't really exist in XIVs environment outside of BLU/special zones like Eureka.
I say this because BLU in XI is very interesting, but they had to do a lot of extra designing on a fairly simple concept to make it not insane, so it has things like stats tied to spell choice etc which isn't a thing for blue mages in any other entry to the best of my knowledge. BLU in XIV is much more "traditional" in that you just learn stuff and can use it. It's one major limitation is simply how many spells you're allowed to carry at once because they do still have to design around things like "hey our players can only push so many buttons reasonably". We can use the same kind of logic and apply it to BST, I don't think it'll be anything too crazy design wise but you never know.
It definitely could be the case! I mostly took the route of comparing to XI because I find it's the design that leaves the most room for adjustment, especially since in some games, BST straight up copied the skills of enemies, essentially just taking the place of a Blue Mage in the titles they functioned that way in.
I certainly can't be sure one way or the other, but the idea of a more Frontline fighter with additional help from a beast seemed more like the core identity that makes the most sense
Square: hello everyone we are giving out a new limited job. Tanks: oh sweet will we get a new class too? Square: No.
The cycle be cycling
I think it will work similar to BLU. maybe the beast will be separate like Mimicry. some beast will be pure dps, other tanky, and other healers. I hope it works like you stated where we have to level the beast to its highest form. Now do u think BSM will start at level 1??
I have to imagine it will start at level 1
I was a FFXIV version 1 player and have waited this whole time, 14 years, for them to bring Beast Master into the game. It was my favorite class in FFXI along with Puppet Master. I have to say It is disappointing that is it is just going to be a "Half ass class" along with Blue Mage. Knowing I can't take it to max level, knowing that I can't do the new story with it, can't do the new dungeons or raids... it is just deeply disappointing. I'm happy that is it finally coming to the game, but sad on how it will be implemented. I'd really love Beast or Puppet master to be my main job.
I totally understand that feeling, as a long time PUP and BLU player in XI.
I think within the design philosophy of 14 it makes sense for these jobs to be designated in a different way though.
@@sharlayanforum Agree to disagree. I'll respect your opinion even if I don't share it. I don't see why they could not have been normal jobs. I have full faith in Yoshi P and his team that they could have pulled it off... don't you?
They certainly *could* be, but they would require a ton of modifications and be essentially unrecognizable in order to fit into the holy trinity that exists in 14.
@@sharlayanforum Good. The game could use a little mix-up. They have made each class so bland it is basically the same as the next. If you tank, you just choose your weapon now, all the abilities are basically the same as the other tanks just with a different "flavor" to suit the theme. I find it dull, and hand-holding. I'd love to see something break the mold with a new form of DPS or Tank. I think Beast Master or Puppet Master would be a perfect fit.
I understand that mentality, for sure, and agree that many of the jobs feel very homogenized. I just don't think that the dev team is going to take massive swings on risks for balancing in the future. We can go back and forth about whether they should or shouldn't, but what matters is what they think is balanced, as they are the designers of the content and jobs at the end of the day.
I'm all for people voicing their opinions, but I find the argument that "every job is the same" is generally only held by people who played in Heavensward when the game was subjectively more fun and complex but objectively designed more poorly for the average player, or by people who play at the top 5% of the player base where they are consistently clearing all the content in the game and have everything maxed.
I also want to clarify that, to me, as a long time FF player, the idea of the soul of the job remaining intact and being analogous to its previous interactions is FAR more important to me than it being in the game by name only. I fear that if BLU and BST, or eventually PUP were in the game, they would be so far removed from what makes them what they are to fit into the design philosophy of 14 that they would not be the jobs that we know them as.
I'd argue that forcing these jobs into the holy trinity system would be a much more "half-assed" attempt at their design than cutting out a niche and letting them shine seperately.
I would be pretty amazed if we got a WHIP weapon... Those aren't exactly easy to animate
I agree, that's why I think one-handed axes are far more likely
I think the biggest issue the BST will face in FFXIV is a lack of motivation to play it. In FFXI the world was dangerous, and BST offered players a way to solo many of the contents of the game, which usually required a party. This isn't the case in FFXIV. The open world of FFXIV is already designed to be soloable with any job in the game, so playing a BST has no benefit. They have to add some sort of difficult content for BST alone to participate in. I was thinking of something like a FFXIV "safari zone" featuring some rare types of creatures that are tough to fight. Maybe some kind of "shiny" version of creatures to tame.
I fear the BST might end up like the blue mage for me. I enjoyed unlocking all the spells, but in the end, it all comes down to beating certain savage raids with a full blue mage party for a mount. The carnival was fun for clearing it once, but had little replay value for me.
I think that you make good points. I reclear the carnivale challenges every week for the currencies, but outside of that BLU doesn't see a ton of play for me. I think they could add a lot of value to BST by giving it a much longer chase than filling the spell book like BLU does.
That's why I think a system like the challenge log or a beastmasters log will be pivotal in its success.
My Guess is that its going to be like Pokémon, weaken them and then you capture them. They attack on range with a boomerang.
A boomerang would be really interesting 😯
Was hoping for PUP
A man can dream
You know what? We had a pet-class before.. but square took it away (Sum). How long till they do that to beast master because square doesn't know how to pet-class.
I think that the reason they're making BST a limited class is specifically because of that reason. The reality is that the engine doesn't support a pet class like SMN because of the requirements for performance in current high end content. By eliminating that as a factor, they allow themselves more freedom to create interesting things
"Either an axe, or a whip"
Hear me out . . . *Whip Axe*
melee and range
Coming fall 2025!
The good of having a set 4 month patch cycle: knowing when things are coming
The bad part of having a set 4 month patch cycle: waiting for things you know are coming
Patch 7.65
I miss that ffxiv has no true pet based class anymore, and no, summoner and scholar don't count anymore ever since their pets just became another heal or attack effect without any independent abilities.
ITS HERE FELLAS
The announcement of Beastmaster as a limited job really surprised me, given the developers apparent disdain for pet classes, given the neutering of the feature with arcanist/summoner.
I think that the new way those jobs function has basically allowed them to move forward with things like Beastmaster and Puppetmaster. Without the changes they made, I doubt we'd ever see those jobs.
Can't wait for FFXIV, Pokemon master class. The nu mou in the tactics adv games used instruments, whip was just in art I think.
That may be the case! I only played tactics for a tiny bit and barely remember, that was just art featured in searches for Beastmaster throughout the series lol
I'm assuming it'll be blue mage for pets. Just go around capturing monsters in the open world.
That's the basics I bet!
@@sharlayanforum What if they pull from Island Sanctuary and you have to use specific nets/lures to capture different monsters? That would be neat.
I could potentially see a lure system being possible if they go with a more involved trapping style system than something more basic like the Charm system
Isn't it a waste to make these jobs as limited? They weren't or cannot be used in raid and they are kinda pointless outside of 'collection'
Bluemage is really *REALLY* good in a niche amount of situations. Like the Yokai event where you can ruin everyone else's time by oneshoting bosses and easily tag mobs in fates.
Don't get me wrong I don't want anymore limited jobs as I feel like Bluemage is all we need. I am sure beastmaster is just gonna be a variation so we don't *just* have Bluemage.
It depends on your perspective, I suppose. If you come from the angle of current content being the only desire, then yes, I would agree with your sentiment. But a lot of different players like a lot of different things!
Blue mages can be used in raids that they meet the level requirements for. Just because you don't do the content it was designed for doesn't mean it's pointless.
I just want to it wear fending set
Tank master would be sweet
The only thing I think is that it won't get a whip. Whip implies using it on your pets, and neither Japan nor America are very keen on whipping pets.
Yeah, this is sort of my thoughts on the whip as well. I think SE is risk averse enough that we won't see it.
Whip bm would be wild and rare xD ,lol 🤣
And slightly kinky. 😏
I hope the taming system wont be anything like island sanctuary capture system
Imagine camping over those NMs and compete with bunch of other players
I hope Island sanctuary isn't used for any future inspiration for anything tbh
BST pankration? 🤔
The most niche system ever in XI... Yeah that'll probably be what they go with, knowing my luck.
Its going to basically be pokemon.
Gotta tame em all
My sanity will remain intact so long as no unique skins or 'shinies' are added to the mix! 😂
Please God no
I cannot wait to see how this plays because BLU is... not it
It definitely isn't for everyone!
I really dont like the idea of limited jobs because i really want to play Beast Tamer on current content.
We'd all love to see it be a "normal" job, but I'll take any new experience over nothing!
should be a full job. NOT a limited job.....
Would be nice for sure! I'm excited to get it either way
🥐
And croissant to you as well
to be shitty like blue mage... that was easy.
If you want to see it that way, I suppose you could!
bro your S and C are too strong for me to listen to you... hurts my ears
This video was recorded right after I got a new mic, and I was working out some kinks in the recording/processing situation. All better now.
Thanks for the feedback though! 🫡
It will not be as fun FFXI , those ffx14 combat routine and side are boring as fuck and will never allow the fun of building our own combat routine and developpe our style like in FFXI. FFXIV think only about being easy ,causual ,run of any pc and sell lot copie without effort.
I think XIV and XI are just very different games. Maybe XIV just isn't for you, and that's okay!
@@sharlayanforum i dont dislike and i guess i would find it perfect if i never played that much FFXI . But i had a feeling in ffxi that was totaly different at immertion and effort to get powerfull.
They are extremely different experiences that scratch much different itches, for sure. I'm a long time XI player so I totally get the feeling.
FFXI did a better job at designing the classes than FFXIV did and limiting them isn't a cool design I heavily contemplated playing the game due to its limitations compared to FFXI as it was more in tune with modern games with its true flexibility, not saying FFXIVis bad but it's not nearly as openminded with its limitations and locking everything behind some kind of wall, that being said the story up to shadowbringers has been great but Endwalker was very underwhelming. the community is its most redeeming quality.
They're two very different design philosophies for sure. Games like XI are a totally different experience compared to something like XIV. I think that if you isolated the jobs from XI and pretended like they all existed in a vacuum there's a lot of crossover, but the subjob system and a lot of the different choices that were made in basic gameplay shift the design so much that they become very separate experiences.
"Redpilled"? Gross.
It's what us earthlings call a "joke"
@@sharlayanforum Well, you're not wrong.
Being frank, I think it’s a bad idea for the devs to continue with limited jobs at all.
It feels like a waste of resources to dedicate to something that appeals to so few players as is, and while I’m aware BLU is designed very cautiously, as it could easily break the game, at the same time, it really just isn’t enjoyable to play as, and the content made for it is 90% grinding for levels and spell gathering. There’s basically nothing about it worth doing after a point, not helping that over half the spells they get are garbage.
I can understand why someone might feel that way, but I think it's important to remember that FF14 is a big game with a lot of people playing it.
Everyone has their little micro-niche of content that they love. A lot of people like BLU's gameplay a lot! I think the biggest trap for limited jobs is going to be a way to make their "gimmick" unique enough from the other job. If all BST turns out to be is "go kill a thing and then you can use one of it's attacks" it'll just be BLU with a skin.
Thanks for the comment!
@@sharlayanforum
If people enjoy BLU, that’s fine by me. I’m not saying people shouldn’t bother, I’m just voicing my own dislike for how limited jobs have turned out thus far.
I understand! I certainly wasn't saying that everyone has to enjoy everything in the game, just that the devs have to consider everyone's playstyle and likes when developing content.
Some stuff isn't for some people, and that's okay!