2017 Maps of Meaning 08: Neuropsychology of Symbolic Representation
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- Опубліковано 5 лип 2024
- In this lecture, I discuss the relationship between the basic categories of imagistic/symbolic representation and brain function, noting that the very hemispheres of the brain are adapted, right/left to the environmental or experiential permanence of chaos/order or unexplored/explored territory, with consciousness serving the Logos role of communicative explorer (a function related in one of its deepest manifestations to the function of the hypothalamically grounded dopaminergic systems).
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What came first the Chicken or the Egg?
The Dragon of Chaos
The Platypus.
Funny
Look up on UA-cam
Type in watched Jordan Peterson once
And twice.
The rooster
The T Rex
it's Friday night, I'm on the couch wrapped up in a blanket with a dog curled up at my feet and a beer in my hand listening to Jordy P lay out some deep knowledge... pretty much EXACTLY how I thought my 30's would play out.
B. Wooton If you're single, want to get together? 😂
and here we see an example of nature choosing the hero
That's a very satisfying thing to imagine lol
not at all how I imagined it but pretty happy that it's the case here as well. i'd now take a quiet evening with "jordy p" over rolling all over the floor of some squat foaming at the mouth inserting hard drugs into about all of my orifices. i mean, it was fun in my twenties, but now it's mainly wisdom that gets me hyped up lol
@@verena__ Was that a woman making the first step!? Explain that Jordan!
Start listening to Prof Jordan Peterson after a very low emotional time in my life 5 months ago. He builds me up every day as I listen to his lectures on a daily basis for at least 5 hours. Today I feel again my old self. More confident and find myself ( that I lost a long time ago ).
Thank you so much for this insightful way of thinking.
That’s how I feel too.
I`m not sure if it`s very healthy to listen to anyone for at least 5hr per day...
Thats awesome
You did the hard work, he just helped point you in the right direction. Hope you’re doing great in this current year.
@Lou Minatti No matter how different we all are, the excess is not good.
"what kinda music you listening to?"
"A psych 434 lecture."
"Nice ... Is that metal? Or rap?"
"It's rap."
Its mongolian throat singing
@@joeynavarro6762 HURRRRRRRRRMmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm
👨🏼🦱- What's the song called?
👩🏽🦱- Neuropsychology of Symbolic Representation.
👨🏼🦱- Oh shit, yeah I've heard that one... It's some fire! 😆
Yep. Amen
No, it is metal.
0:00 What is the most real? What has shaped humans? Not just one era of evolutionary history.
10:00 Math, things that are real, abstraction.
24:00 Cars aren't just cars.
38:00 prefrontal cortex extends motor cortex
41:00 Intelligence and conscientiousness correlation
52:00 Action, dreams, representation
59:45 Kids will drive you crazy if you don't act your words out. Development of wisdom is bringing actions and words in concordance.
1:02:00 Emotional expressions are about broadcasting intent
1:05:00 Brexit etc from 2008 global collapse, modularity vs integration
1:09:00 Dreams are not random, right hemisphere moving stuff to left
1:12:00 Attention is the top god
1:20:30 Abstractions and archetypes
1:26:00 Depression associated with right hemisphere, happiness with left
1:35:00 Cooperation is self interested
2:08:00 Serpent on the rod
Thank you!!!
this comment is greatly underrated
Eh's a herooy!
@@SkeleOfNi This isn't meant to be very comprehensive. These were just the parts I found really interesting
This was useful.
Can we just take a moment to appreciate the Professor's hand game? Very animated, and I've noticed it's creative and not very repetitive.
The sound effects are good, too, when he does that. I particularly like the sound effect he does of something crumbling.
He's a good speaker. Hand gestures, body language, the way he always talks to either one individual or no one at all when he's thinking out loud and voice modulation as well.
You know what? He is definitely fucking talented. But that comes with true knowledge. I mean, he's even borne himself into a pretty body, and he KNOWS how to take care of it. He KNOWS what to read, and he KNOWS how to think. I suppose we could all learn from his example. I'm sure he isn't into junk food or genetically modified poisons. . . I mean, what that does to the mind...eeek...and for sure one should definitely have a water purifier at home, ESPECIALLY if you live in an area where your 'most brilliant' government wants to make sure you have white teeth by putting fluoride into your water supply, Hahahaha! Yup.
Oh and, I bet you the Professors SHOES look good too, huh?
I guess you haven't seen the videos where commenters are on him to stop drinking soda pop all the time.
his hand game is on point
How on earth do you genetically modify a poison?
"Educators can be father figures." indeed Dr. Peterson, indeed.
What's the opposite of an oedipal complex? I get the greasy feeling that too many of JPs listeners just want Jordan to wipe cheetos crumbs off of them, touch it to their lips and and ask "how many fingers son"?
Lol kill the Buddha and set out on your own. You don't want to turn a lecturer you have zero two-way interaction with into a strange father figure. Learn and move on.
@@Jacob-fd9nm I don’t think he means father figure (Talip SAKA, I mean) very specifically to its traditional meaning. Jordan Peterson always makes these sorts of weird “dreamy” connections between like chaos and the feminine, and although I have not heard his interpretation of it, I don’t believe that he genuinely considers the feminine to be exactly similar to chaos, whereas he has described chaos as like when you just don’t know and everything is out of your control. Maybe Talip SAKA sees him as a real father figure, idk, probably not, but instead Jordan Peterson is kind of like the internet common sense explained in uncommon sense guy. Jordan Peterson is a very interesting person to listen to since much of what he says seems applicable to current thinking, politics, etc, and it’s just interesting, so in the same way, this person comes back to listen to Jordan Peterson for those reasons, I think the connection is similar to the educational process of a real father who so-to-speak teaches one the nitty-gritty. However, to extrapolate from that the idea that this person loves Jordan Peterson in a weird one-way relationship akin to fatherly-son love is just kinda weird... You speak very condescendingly with “big words” over an obviously shortly-thought our comment. Oh wait I’m doing that, oh well, the point still stands
@@Jacob-fd9nm Opposite of oedipal complex is the messianic complex 😏
If the man was evil, he could rule the world.
@@somethingorother9263 lol this is the kind of weird over-idolizing I was trying to make fun of.
Help me. I'm addicted to this content.
Mitchell C Don't listen to Hugh Mungus, use heroin instead.
Mitchell C I know how you feel.
Mitchell C nice to see another person with pretty much the exact same political compass result :p
that's a pretty constructive thing to be addicted to. i don't see the problem!
+ Brian Sterle My family is becoming increasingly concerned that I might sort myself out.
I would like to thank Jordan’s parents for giving us this gift to humanity during our lifetime.
"It's great to have disscussions with your enemies, they will tell you things that YOU DO NOT KNOW"
Holy shit that is good
1:17:06 on is just gold
Sun Tzu- “The Art of War”
I'm immediately reminded of dragons in fantasy literature, who are almost always very intelligent, often way more than humans, and how they often have conversations with the heroes that come to defeat them in some way. I wonder if this isn't what those stories are articulating without the authors realizing it.
@@Soulslayer612 hands down.
@@Soulslayer612 Sir Terry Pratchett was good on dragons - try “Guards! Guards!”
Jordan B Peterson: having at least 10-15 Mic drop moments every lecture!
Jorden will be inspiring a whole generation of psychologically astute leaders and transformational change agents.
He is a giant among giants.
No, I’m sorry, it isn’t likely to stop what is coming. These Marxist left socialist communist diatribes are only plunging us into the movie “Idiocracy”, if you haven’t seen it, you simply must.
The path that we are now on, it is going to be a bloodbath the likes not seen since Hitler and NAZI Germany. We are too far gone, the consequences of the corrections necessary to restore and impart order, peace and sanity will require a spanking the likes of which these basement dwellers haven’t ever been given.
@@ronaldlollis8895 I'm inclined to agree, unfortunately. But, if we play the long game, we can see ourselves through this tribulation. Just 'cause the Postmodernists kill the father doesn't mean we can't retrieve him and give him sight for the future.
The role of the mother: to bring the child back to order in the face of overwhelming chaos.
The role of the father: to push the child out into the chaos in the face of excessive order.
The paradoxical roles of, hopefully, a stable two parent relationship that does kind of, in a controlled or disciplined manner, to “be mean to the kid” by teaching and forcing methods of chores and goal oriented tasks that have either positive or negative consequences, all decisions have consequences, and maintaining the orderly structure of that relatively stable world as one grows is tantamount to the survival of western culture. The lack of fathers in so many situations, particularly in black and indigenous native Americans and inner city cultures is what is driving the chaos of today. Those perpetuating that chaos just to “get their way” are not going to respond well to the discipline consequences that are about to come. Not going to like it at all.
I love when you see something you believed in but cut not articulate written out. It's the feeling of "of course".
@@sedanwheel4146 Or a tiny....eureka xD
It's backwards.
Truth
27:01 when someone's phone started vibrating I compulsively checked my phone (which was on silent) and simultaneously got the first text message I've received in 14 hours. A job opportunity. Bloody synchronicity, eh?
The idea towards the end of the video of the Democratization of Osiris (starting at 2:18:39) may be one of the most profound ideas Dr. Peterson has shared. I love how he explained that sovereignty started moving down the hierarchy throughout time, from Ancient Egypt to Ancient Greece to Christianity.
I think the most important part may be from 2:20:48 to 2:21:06. Dr. Peterson explains just how ancient the ideas we attribute to the Enlightenment are, and shows why it would be dangerous to think our values are Enlightenment ideas or that our values can be rationalized.
This strikes at the heart of every ideology today, and it shows an alternate solution to Nietszche's ubermen, that we need to reconnect to our ancient values. It is dangerous to attribute our values to the Enlightenment or to rationalism because it lends credibility to all sorts of dangerous ideologies we see on the rise today. This is why Dr. Peterson says Nietszche foresaw the rise of totalitarianism. The truth is that we have values that are not rationalized, and are ancient beyond what we can even imagine.
If you watch many of Dr. Peterson's lectures, he makes the case that our values are grounded on a biological basis that we share with rats, and that can be extended back to behaviors we share with lobsters. The biological basis for our values go back hundreds of millions of years, much earlier than the time when we could rationalize our values or even be vaguely aware of them like the Mesopotamians and Ancient Egyptians were. Leaning too much on rationalism has completely disconnected us from our ancient values, values that we once lived out without thinking just by being social animals in a dominance hierarchy.
It's amazing, it's so amazing. Now I see why Dr. Peterson thinks Panksepp's discovery of the play circuit in mice is worthy of a Nobel prize, because it opens the door into some of the deepest realities of our being. It's absolutely amazing.
The end of the lecture was very captivating. However, when it comes to everybody being valuable and part of society with Christianity, even if that was Jesus message, you cannot say that was Europe's history during the middle age (I'm assuming he goes at least 1000 years ago to talk about foundations of Western civilization).
Kings were the representation of God because their power came not from the rest of the population (aka democracy) but directly from God. It is not until much later that religion and state get separated, and even in some developing countries regular people did not feel like "citizens" or valuable pieces of society until 50 years ago, maybe less.
@@olemew I think the Catholic Church was complicit in that, and I think that's why Nietszche thought that Christianity's development of the ability to follow Truth ultimately lead to the death of God. Dostoyevsky had a very similar criticism which he articulated in his story The Grand Inquisitor. In that story, the grand inquisitor was willing to execute Christ Himself, even while the inquisitor was ostensibly an agent of Christ, and even after the inquisitor was convinced that he was really talking to the actual Christ. Nietzsche thought well of Christ Himself, but very heavily criticized the Church. Tolstoy also criticized the Russian Orthodox Church for hypocritically selectively rejecting some of Christ's teachings in his book "The Kingdom of Christ Is Within You", which proceeded from his earlier book "My Religion". Jordan Peterson himself talks about Christ all the time, but refuses to go to church, going so far as saying that the churches are full of lying pastors.
The churches were so hypocritical with regards to the sovereignty of the individual that we had to separate Church and State and rededicate the state to the elevation of the sovereignty of the individual. But even then, the State often threatens the idea of the sovereignty of the individual. The Spirit of Truth humbled the Church, and it also humbles states that degenerate into tyranny.
Excellent summary! As an Indian, I obviously compare this thesis with the foundational philosophy of the Eastern civilization. To be honest, I don't really know what that is. If I were to answer presently, perhaps it is the duality of 'karma' and 'dharma', or doing your duties, which is what Krishna advises Arjun to do in the Mahabharata when Arjun has doubts over killing his cousins. While one could argue that this is synonymous with the sovereignty of the individual, the duty of the individual may contrast with the duty towards your family or caste. I hope someone in India does as good a job to the Indian texts as Peterson does with the Western texts. That would be truly illuminating, at least to me.
Roberto Sanchez re ray play circuit do you mean the thing where the small rat won’t play with the big rat unless the big rat lets it win at least 20% of the time?
Apar Prasad - see if you can find a beautiful hardback book “The Art of War and other Classics of Eastern Philosophies” Canterbury Classics- San Diego- 2016
It is a beautiful hardback to add to your collection, oddly enough I found them at Sam’s Club just before the holiday seasons, I purchased several copies to give as gifts for $16.48 (USD) each. I can’t show you a photograph of it here but it is black, red, gold letters and trimming with the dragon prominently on the front. I hope there are nuggets of truth and realization in it for you.
These are unbelievably good lectures. I just might watch every single upload.
Ambient Relaxation That's what I did. It's totally worth it.
and multiple times over and over and over
Educating
My best friend and I had to take a week off of this lecture series because of how mind blowing it is. We still talk about it on our walks, about how the Ford car company wasn't just building a car but a cultural idea, and how cool Egyptian lore is and how it influenced our Western Judeo-Christian structure.
Thank you.
Anyone else get really excited listening to this like -"Look, there! He's talking about the stuff we're all trying to figure out! Look look right there!" wow? lol
Elude Stalwart truly
If you want to hide something realy well hide it in braud daylight
This is by far the most comprehensive and interesting lecture I've seen from the doc. The whole thing is just FIRE
Skeet skeet 🔥🔥🔥🔥
"King of the gods is he who can confront chaos and regenerate order"
Literally Jordan himself
I have listened to each of his 2017 lectures a couple times through. I feel like my IQ has gone up 20 points in the process.
Thanks to you i actually found this particular lecture, much appreciated for that and your channel :D
Nice. Im on my second listen- through. I feel the same way.
And you have click baited and used his content
Interesting, since he has said (multiple times) in his lectures that they haven’t really figured out how to significantly raise IQ.
@@snoogllies Maybe he's referring to the feeling of having one's crystalized intelligence increase... rather than fluid intelligence.
Im so thankful to be able to get this knowladge without having to attend this school physicly, what a great time we live in
Jesus Christ. Just when I thought that Maps of Meaning lecture 7 was the densest, most extatic, transcendent time of my life, here comes number 8...
When he looks down and looks for words to explain "being itself
By far the most informational and interesting lecture I have ever had the pleasure of being a part of. Thank you for sharing your knowledge so freely and openly. It is greatly appreciated.
It’s like he is currently the embodiment of the eye and the knowledge of the god he tells the story about... for our generation... actually, for our current civilization... it’s like watching history being written.
Listening to this mans lectures and putting them into practice, have vastly improved my life. Thank you
Within two and a half minutes, my mind is already blown and I feel like scurrying to scholarly websites to check the references. Watching these lectures is a parallel education with the Personality series. It's great.
I haven't been to college in years. Prof. Peterson is better than any of the Prof's I had. Two thumbs up.
His lectures always leave me with this _ "Lobster in a clean Room" _ kind of feeling
I listened to the whole Maps of Meanings and The Bible Series 2 times as carefully as I could , and took many hours to process it during the last two years, and it still reveals more layers and connections which just leave me stunned.
These lectures age like the finest wine.
The part where Professor Peterson talks about social anxiety really... Opened my eye to my issue.
if you listen to this all the way through and don't find it to be at least quite illuminating, idk what to say
these students getting their moneys worth! thanks for the upload
Dr. Peterson- Sir, that was fascinating. Every one of your presentations I have taken in so far have been so enlightening, but this one is pure genius. If it doesn’t make a person stop and examine themselves and where they came from and who they are supposed to be, then they are truly the malevolent hooligans who have little hope of redemption. Thank you for this, it has been so educational and informative.
Patience of a saint.
Don't let the useless screaming idiots get to you.
You make us all proud.
Well, we all know Shiro didn't cast pearls before swine. Good job
3 years ago. Who cares?
@Freeze Peach Wow, great reasons and points that show how much a grifter he is.
I wonder who here, is truly the fraud?
@Freeze Peach What an intellectual high functioning moron you are.
He's a *clinical* psychologist.
Do you understand what that means?
No you do not.
Youre a piece of garbage.
I think we beat him guys.
Dr. Peterson is such a great thinker that many of his thoughts will be appreciated for generations to come. As a biologist, I follow Dr. Peterson's notes in every way I can. The opening of this lecture: human being is a species with time focus frame in 0.1 second to 3 years. Amazing hypothesis and perspective to look at a species! Somehow my gut feeling is that this is so true, it might even devote a PHD thesis specifically for this.
People say 'True art is inexhaustible'. His lectures never fall short of presenting new information every single time you revisit. This is damn good art. Thank you JBP!
3 years later I'm back to rediscover this and it's just amazing how much more knowledge is revealed over multiple listens. There are some concepts you just cannot get on your first listen
When he's reading his computer and showing the top of his head, Mr. Peterson (Jordan "I had a client" Peterson) reminds me of St. George in Ucello's paint for some reason. Perhaps the expression of duty in the face of difficulty?
A marvel to have discovered you, Mr. Peterson.
Relistening to these in 2020, it's been very refreshing. I love when JP throws nets around very complicated and deep ideas for me.
This lecture, as well as the rest of the series, is astonishingly rich and brilliant. So, so good.
Men, you are changing my life forever with your lectures. I wish I could meet his brilliance, Mr. Peterson, one day. By his own logic, if I am 'hell bent' on that and take all the necessary steps, it might just happen XD Seriously now, this man right here is telling me EVERYTHING I ever needed to know and never knew I had to know!
Schools should just fire their half assed psych professors and just have their students watch Jordan Peterson videos on youtube.
The difference between this and the typical "Freud thought everything was sexual" teacher is so huge its gross.
Agreed. But if you really want to understand then you have to try to work things out and read the primary sources yourself.
Goad Said it’s not just in psychology, all across the board except maybe biology, lack individuals with uniquely developed ideas, best to just teach yourself.
My psych teacher thought Freud was a joke. Now I think she was a joke
I left psychology because I felt it wasn’t what I wanted , after listening to Peterson I’m so mad at my university that it didn’t have ANYTHING remotely similar to Peterson
jeremy hunt My daughter was taught that too in college! I told her that is closed minded you don't throw away all of what one brilliant original thinker says because some of it is disproved. It's like one big cult of professors now teaching the same thing in some universities. How can one learn to really have an original thought at all if they are not challenged to read all of the material and analyze it? Thank goodness she was a chemistry major and didn't get deep into the humanities department. My other daughter's uni seems to be more liberal to critically think.
We used to have temples, universities, and meeting halls dedicated to enlightenment like that which Dr. Peterson has renaissance'd. Boy, have we gone astray as a culture and society.
Life changing content. Thank you so much lobster god!!!
What an absolute goldmine this stuff, on my second run through this series, Thanks !
I've learned more in these lectures than I have in all 6 years of being in University and my useless Psychology degree.
Good for you! Same here, I only thought I was an Intelligent Smartass, now I can, after watching so many of Dr. P’s presentations, carry myself as a more and better well rounded smartass that can magically piss people off at a moment’s notice. It feels good, too. 🧐🤔🤔🤨😳🙄😡🤬😂🤣😂🤣😂🤣
At least you have a degree
I've literally watched all of Jordan's videos in there entirety.
Mr W me too
Me too!!
Well done.....but what does that even mean?
And then you bacame the superman
Can't. Stop. Watching. Peterson!
Yes captain, he appears relatively logical. I have at time hypothesized that his lineage may be similar to my own
Andrew Mckeown 🤣🖖🏽
Jordan B. Peterson - "So that's how that works"
Me - 0_0
Brilliant. Eternal. Invaluable. Truly - on all levels - moving you forward, deeper. Thank you!
“This life's dim windows of the soul
Distorts the heavens from pole to pole
And leads you to believe a lie
When you see with, not through, the eye.”
-William Blake
I think the greatest benefit of Jordan Peterson is that he has collated so much diverse information that you get a bit of an understanding of everything WITH CONTEXT. I think the issue with university is that it just focuses on the 'facts' but never the context in which said facts are useful
You've been an important part of my life Mr. Peterson. For the last 5 years actually. You've helped me many times when I've been in a slump, and your videos play a big role in getting my act together. The way you speak and teach clicks with me on a primitive level. It's entirely possible we are distant relatives. I've always wondered about that. My ancestry is strictly Northwest European, specifically Scandinavian, English, French, and German.
Just brilliant insights into human psychology
"criminals, prostitutes, outcasts, tax collectors..." lmao I love this man
Wonderful Biblical references.
Genuinely made me laugh :D
The best lecture series in the history of human kind
This is one dense talk! Dominance hierarchies, Kantian qualifications, Exodus, order/disorder, delegating judicial responsibilities, common law emergence, desert wasteland idolatry, paradoxes of oppositions, perceptual paradoxes, unintentional economic consequences, snakes, sibling power struggles, predator/prey, category of whatever is beyond category, unexhausted potential. Holy Moses! It's a wild quantum jitterbug! I didn't get past the 1st hour.
You painted some pretty broad strokes with the order/disorder characterizations. I will have to re-read Exodus, Numbers, Deuteronomy. I'm not sure you have the sequencing correct. As odious as this may seem to some I think something has be left out. It's out of the box. But thanks for publishing this. I am sure your Bible lectures will, if not open some people's eyes, make them reconsider long held beliefs.
I feel smarter having just read the description! Can't wait to sit down and watch this.
Absolutely the most brilliant and concise way I have ever heard these concepts put and streamlined to a fault. Mr. Peterson you are an academic treasure.
I cant wait to re-watch all of this, thank you Jordan Peterson!
I currently reading Sapiens and watching this. How lovely these facts interconnect each other
And thank you for an absolutely on the ball camera operator! Much appreciated! And the audio is excellent :)
I would have enjoyed school if I'd had teachers like JBP, instead of teachers who gave me detentions for questioning them (such as my first grade teacher who gave me a "detention" because I told her a spider was not an insect). THIS is teaching.
I’m taking psychology classes right now in college, and listening to these while I drive. It’s nuts how much I’ve learned about psychology, sociology, politics, values… really, I could go on forever. The subjects that touches on should be taught in schools everywhere
Jamyn Cartwright psychology in college ...with ur ged?
Virtues signaled !triggered.
I can't believe this one has the fewest views of the 2017 MoM. This is where it really starts getting meaty
The fact that we watch these videos are also indications of the deep desire to resolve the unknown of Gods, the archetypal stories, the chaos in our lives, and the self. All in order, from the widest to the individual.
IMHO- Not too many years from now, Dr. Peterson will be considered to be the successor to Freud and Jung... this man is a true giant, and I am so grateful to him.
Its amazing how he has a hand gesture for nearly everything he is talking about .
Thank you for your endless knowledge, insights and advice, Dr Peterson! You make more sense than anyone, probably, ever.
thank you so so much for these lectures. I also really like when you address us as your audience. I could watch this stuff many times before getting it all fully worked out
I had to stop in the middle of this lecture to just comment on how absolutely fascinating this train of ideas is. The man is a literal walking fruit of wisdom and perception. The universe desperately needs more of these thought trajectories.
I always try to fall asleep to him and end up staying up 4 hours more than I should
First : of all, this is the first time I go to school deliberatlety... Second : I'm not even at school... Third : I will never get a bad grade .... So, I think I can call that a really believable notion of approximative perfection :)
Is A equivalent to B? It depends on how you define A. It depends on how you define B. It depends on how you define “equivalent.” It depends on how you define “define.”
Aaaaaaaarrrrrrgggghhhhhh!!!
Too logical people are generally afraid of the unknown territorry of the right hemisphere functions and force themselves to stick the already known and familiar..but this can make them lazy, addicted and anxious..
Btw I understand it was sarcasm and found it funny too😂😂
Playing is to explore the variability of understanding.
Lets play!
Akshay Singh you couldn’t be more right, my friend. And I’ve been living it my whole life. As an individual with Asperger’s, I have (since about age 5-6) been forced to approach the world via logic.
I do not have the neurological predisposition to intuitively grasp other people’s motivations and most social situations are a complete mystery to me.
So, basically I constructed a reasonably well-adjusted personality by being a Vulcan anthropologist. It worked for about 30 years. Now I’m 51 and I’ve been battling anxiety, laziness and addiction for 20 some odd years now.
And I’m well aware that somewhere around 70% of autistic people end their lives in suicide.
That also depends on what “ “ means!
Such complex but understandable knowledge it’s as if you can’t break the loop of chaos and order no matter which side of the snake you go to this video should have 10 million views all of them should
I have multiple degrees, one doctorate, in divergent topics, and this guy makes me feel pathetically ignorant. So glad I stumbled upon your lectures. Thank you Dr. Peterson.
Brilliant. Re-listening 5th time in 5 years
We've lost a great deal of wisdom about the nature of man and the cosmos through war. It truly is the ultimate expression of ignorance.
Thanks so much, Mr. Peterson. Your videos have helped so many, including myself. You've put a lot in perspective for me, and I even found your video about agoraphobia. The world really needs you. Thanks so much.
This lecture is a nourishment for my Soul
hello Jordan I am a Hamiltonian, and I am so sad that your experience at mcmaster was so negative, I hope your future experiences will be better, if you come back good luck sir!
I have never felt the level of shame for my city as I did when I watched that video of those buzzing gnats drowning out someone actually worth listening to.
Tiktaalik good luck with that, if you're so weak as to throw rocks at someone you simply disagree with, you wouldn't stand a chance against the countless -well put together individuals (a large portion of which are men) that would instantaneously jump to his aid
Why'd you have to go and make me notice all the noises my fridge was making JP? Lol.
The number of times that this man says "this is an oversimplification" followed by concepts that I find slightly challenging at best and extremely difficult at worst has me flabbergasted at just how complex everything is.
You are damn straight on that! Its a thousand wonders how we figured anything out but miracle after miracle and here we are!
Missing you Jordan. Your thinking makes so much sense !! since you had been sick I ve listen to many others and returned to you and your well structured speech and thought. Come back to us :)
I failed again to be atop the electronic dominance hierarchy - no i will not sort myself out.
The Modern Hermeticist interesting thought. the Internet as a tool to shortcut the dominance hierarchy but is it more like a farce hierarchy because the Internet relies on our initial hierarchies to exist?
A sub-group of our original hierarchical structure, literally a constructed, virtual, hierarchy playground. But, itself, is also the fruit of hierarchical competition.
Recursion?
Hierarchies are trees (as graphs) and per definition any sub-tree is also a tree, technically at least.
So subhierarchies can exist in dependance on some parent-hierarchy, I'd hypothesize. A school class would be a subhierarchy in the hierarchy of the school, which is again part of the economy or government. The chain would of course continue with more and more abstract categories until your reach nature itself as root.
If the Internet can be counted as true sub-hierarchy is questionable, since it's designed as some decentralized network without any real "owner". It also lacks any real supplier of sorts. Per design it only relies on people to participate in order to exist.
So yah. My 2c.
"Recursion?"
Holographic?
But yes, hierarchies can be nested in relation to imminent, localised priority - but influence goes both ways, each redefining the other and in turn being redefined by the POV in question... itself in flux, yet restrained by the parameters of consensus reality.
The interesting thing about the internet is the focused nature of the perceptual prism. The world (or facsimile thereof) reduced to a screen, sound etc. then reconstituted in the mind of the individual. Is the internet the closest thing we have to shared psychology? What is the profile of the Hive Mind? Where is the dragon (or spider) of the WWW?
Sense Data 34:10
Abstractions 40:17
Motor Homunculi 48:20
Behaviour/representation 52:25
Pay attention 1:17:20
positive/negative emotion 1:23:35
Cybernetic theory 1:27:50
Representation of God 1:32:10
Marduk Story 1:47:18
Thanks for your help
Its really something to hear someone explain the nature of you, and then you end up making direct correlations to your own life.
Brilliant. 👏
It's Friday just before noon, and I've just finished packing up 293 pounds of books to ship to Amazon Warehouses, while simultaneously attending a lecture on the meaning of life... =D
(Spent this whole week doing so. At least 60 hours of work/lectures, it's probably been the most productive week of my life.)
It dawned on me earlier today that my preoccupation with "cookie clicker" type games is because it provides a washed-out sense of meaning and purpose. It's so cool how this course keeps giving insight after insight.
Youve worked out the exploitation of the human mind. Start to look for other manipulations in modern society as well. It'll astound you.
Interesting thing about the all-seeing eye symbol, the triangle itself also represents perception. Picture yourself looking down a long straight road with telephone poles on both sides: from your perspective, the poles and road converge in the distance, the vanishing point, forming a triangle shape - albeit with you (your eyes) on the bottom.
This has been the most profound video of jordans teachings for me. the "ahah" moments he described as a human finally being able to represent their behavior is groundbreaking.
"There's something very real about abstractions" - That statement has a lot of power, very insightful.
I despise UA-cam for not allowing me to like this more than once.
We also have partial skin between our fingers, no other ape has that. We have arrow shaped noses which help us exhale underwater, other apes have outward facing noses. Our ears can withstand pressure changes, which most bprimates can't. Our muscles use less oxygen. Our red blood cells are superior at delivering oxygen than almost any other type of animal, even fish.
We are hybrids...possibly extraterrestrial intervention created us.. Hmmm.
Had two wisdom teeth pulled out 10 years ago... my tongue is still mapping as I watch this lecture. What sorcery is this?
I can't stop watching these videos. Thank you for all your hard work Doctor JP.
49:17 "It might be simple like this is how you pick up a rock, but it might be complicated like here's how you go after the dragon of chaos". LOL
It's amazing to see a class by this amazing professor!
Jordan Peterson: Teaching us that dead culture the framework of our existence and layers of behavior since the times of Marduk
2:15:00, Its you Dr. Yu are the father figure, who trusts the one who are lost. You act virtuously and it inspires us to move forward