Method vs Nefarian 25man Heroic World 2nd
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Method vs Nefarian 25man Heroic, World 2nd(1st kill after Rip "hotfix") kill on January 29th 2011.
Points of view from:
Imsupersdw | Balance Druid
Rogerbrown | Survival Hunter
Phlaryu | Discipline Priest
Soundtrack:
Jamala - Eris (Airborne Angel Remix)
Med & Phil Metcalfe - January (Original Mix)
Method, u all just proved urself to be better than paragon, who subbed out so many, just to get in the druids, so that they can do enough dps, good job.
Still couldn't understand how they manage to kite the bone warriors for such a long time. Amazing work=]
the hunter's addon is proly TellMeWhen + a focus bar addon.
@63517489 no video of Ensidias LK25 kill was ever released, further proving the fact they knew exactly what they were doing, deliberately exploiting to ignore the hardest part of the boss at the time, the valkyrs(dps requirements etc). class stacking is not an exploit.
@Drooddood808 You're wrong, Paragon out-played and used a far more effective strategy. It's not cheating, it's using what you've been given and building the best configuration you can and executing it perfectly. I'm not saying Method's kill wasn't extremely impressive, but Paragon deserved world first simply because they killed the boss first without cheating / exploiting. No-one can disagree that Paragon are the best in the game.
@kenkomg It wasn't an exploit. They used the ability to their advantage. If blizzard didn't want them to use it they would have either A. Banned them. Or B. Hotfixed it between their attempts (they did this during Sinestra so not only is it possible but they do it.)
Love how people are more focused on bashing other guilds rather than just give out a simple congratulation on the 2nd world 25man hc kill of Nef.
@Myralis
There are many greeks in the guild, 6 or so core raiders.
In this movie you can hear me (gamidi) and razielz (ashkandi)
In the sinestra movie you can hear xabok (piece of cake).
the world first kill imo.
paragon used the "bug" with the druids. they had about 40-50k dps because of
the bleeding buff. know it is fixed.
gz for the real world first kill method!
Here are the good guys that didn't use the overpowered and unintentional Rip tactic.
@Nucleariasi That's a mechanic of the fight. There is part of the heroic fight (after you get mc'd) where your next hit does insanely high damage. Blizzard hadn't taken into account the scaling with rip and it's dot effect. Look up the fight on heroic and you'll see that what they did wasn't an exploit, they were just taking advantage of a part of the fight by stacking one particular class.
@Slonoloza They use a potion called Potion of Illisuion where it transform you into you'r target, to make fun of Paragon who used 12 Feral Druids
What's the name of the hunter's addon ( with his main CDs and foca ) plz ?
@Azalen24 Actually they have killed it since the fix... They have 2 kills on Nefarian 25 heroic, Alakir 25 heroic and Sinestra heroic.
The reasons i watch videos like this is to:
1. Check how they do it and
2. Watch the UI's
And i fucking love the Balance Druids UI!
@Fireslave1
Get your facts straight. Their first kill was on the 9th of january and since then they have only killed it once.
What addon does imsuperdw have to see the heals and etc on the sides? I'm a melee DPS and it's very hard to sometimes spot less visible AOE thrown down by bosses and such because of all the effects that are going up my screen.
Nosfe
@Slonoloza They used a potion to make them look like boomkins. This is to make fun of paragon who did world first with 12 feral druids
Anyone can tell me what the addon is called that the hunter use in the mid of the screen (shows 4 dps abilities) thanks.
So when can we expect a video of your Atramedes heroic kill.
(That's first kill btw, not a later video of a kill you didn't exploit)
@rsdorg123
U will get a mc called "Domination". When the mc is gone and u have build up stacks ur next attack will be a 2000 % dmg hit :) So that why its so high.
Awsome music and awsome vid, and big gratzz to your kill! Keep on going!
This video looks far more epic than the paragon video. Paragon's video didn't really do the fight's difficulty any justice.
"how do you die to f*&#ing fire you bad!" best line ever
@Oajng wich pot?
Method gets 3 weeks of additional heroic gear on already excellently geared characters, while Paragon kills this boss with 5 man geared alts and 3 weeks less gear on their main raiders, yet Method wants to bash them, and try and claim theirs was somehow the only legitimate kill. Guaranteed overall raid damage was very similar.
You should be thanking Paragon for getting fights like Al'Akir nerfed. You would still be struggling through them and not even working on Nefarian yet without them.
@darkchas17
They actually didn't fail on Deathwing, looking at the fact that they had 8 days ban first they still ended quite nicely :)
What does psofa gamidi mean?
yes they have killed him again after the hotfix - but also after we released our movie :)
@ko300zx
10k dps difference of xaar from the pov's recount and then the final recount they show at the video
and also if you saw they used 3 extra healers than us which makes things a lot easier
'don't die to fucking fire you bads'
@kenkomg ..What?
The boss has a debuff that makes you do increased DoT damage, is getting many classes that have good DoTs an exploit then? No
@joshparsons Yes they are actually, any *good* rogue eng used those bombs in 3.3, they were thrown as a filler when the rogue didn't have enough energy to perform an ability.
Can someone tell me the name of the addons the Hunter is using? Thanks
@Fireslave1 the point is the didnt kil nefarian after the fix. So after their world first the didnt kill i again........
Thumbs up for best eu guild
gratz on world first without exploiting boss/spell mechanics
Gratz on the kill!
Heard you also beat Al'Akir, upload please!
@Fireslave1 I believe you are the paragon, right?
@MindIsFree I would guess he just used bartender and put a extra bar in that position. If not, you can do what I just said to get the same affect.
Who needs 11 druid, Get out of here Blizzgon
Method, with this video, shows who are the best of wow !!!
Gratz to world first, without bug using :)
@tiedie001 It wasn't their fault, though, that was a mistake on Blizzard's part, and you can't really blame the guild for doing what they did. They were taking advantage of a game mechanic, but it wasn't really an exploit, otherwise Blizzard would have taken action against them.
1) The paragon kill was use of game mechanics. The "Mind controlled" buff was designed to stack to 2250% damage, so they used heavy dot classes which is not ANYTHING to do with an exploit. Blizzard infact have commended them for the kills.
To top it all off Paragon have killed Nefarian 25 heroic since their first kill...Stop this self righteous bull crap over this game because you somehow feel hard done by a guild that used a mechanic. They said they could have used 11 locks too, and killed it.
so because Paragon have druid alts available that means their kill isnt legit? catch a grip, you can see dots are still scaling ridiculously, maybe not to the proportion that rip was, but its still insane. Paragon were smart and used a tactic that was put in the game by Blizzard the only difference was that they had the druid alts/brains to use it, gz on your world 2nd Method
idd this can be acclaimed as world 1st. but do not accuse paragon of exploit cause they downed al'akir 25hc before last wednesday's hotfix, a boss that's was imo nearly impossible to kill.so respect should go to both guilds for an outstanding performance in tier 11. PSOFA GAMIDI EKLAPSA!
World first legit, congrats fellas!
You can judge all you want, but if blizzard didnt ban em its not an exploit, or the phrase innocent till proven guilty dosent count in the gaming world?
@Piechu89 I know...thats why I said they have killed it twice. Or are you incapable or reading through rage because you sound quite mad.
"get ur facts straight before posting, method wouldn't have used that bug, since they didn't wanna kill the boss non-legit"
get YOUR facts straight, paragons kill wasn't a bug, and it wasn't an abuse. At the point when paragon made their kill the buff increased your next moves damage. They used their brains and took classes that could do the most damage in a single move. There is no rule that says "your kill isn't legit if you take too many of 1 class" you can take 25 druids if you want.
@Fireslave1
Maybe you should read what you wrote again. No where in your text did you write that they had just killed him twice.
@Darkullx93 If wasnt an exploit/bug why did it got hotfixed right after?
Anyway GG Method we all know you are world first!
Legit kill, Great job on world first.
@ko300zx
since you don't know anything about the encounter i forgive you for your ignorance but let me tell you that when you get mind controlled - you stop counting the rest of the raid member's dps on recount. So the dmg meters you see are totally false. As some1 else said tho - what you can obviously compare is the time it took to kill the boss from start to finish since its the same hp that you need to kill whatever you do...
sick quality, very nice
Method is the real world 1st. If you are seriously, youll lose
Exploit or no, this is I believe the World 1st for Nefarian 2.0 (post-fix), no?
@W00fImAD0g Actually no, I love Ensidia. Not Paragon, nor Method so I have no bias in what I'm saying. Paragon did nothing which Blizzard didn't set them up with, and anyway, Paragon killed Nefarian first after Blizz nerfed the rip mechanic. Also, "facts are facts"? Of course they are, what kind of statement is that? But I can and will argue, because I'm correct.
time for vacations now - ELINARAS
For best performance turn off sound.
What the hell was that hunter 274k?
Who is the greek guy in method? U made Greece proud! :P
Must have been luck since you haven't killed it again since this..
@skiisgood I have seen a couple of members of paragon and I can say honestly they are by far WOW's most professional gamers/most skilled gamers in the word as a team (!)! They dont care about others opinion/fanboys/e-net drama, they are only here for the kills and work EXTREMELY well together as a team, this as a result of national coherence ofcourse. Paragon cleared Yogg+0 waaay faster before method and this fight is extremely unforgiven (Could only kill it after 1.5 months of trying!)
The last song is fucking epic ! Gratz guys !
@Tewpanda not all Druids did 850k rofl.. u first need the buff to do it and it doesnt lats for 10 mins, they just used more druids so that thier chance of gettin the buff o the ferals would increase... Please stay to the facts rofl.. if all druids did 850k each 2-3sec the boss would have been dead in less then 1 min and the healers wouldnt even keep up with the 10% aoe dmg. o.O
so am I supposed to dance during this? christ. UNCE UNCE UNCE UNCE
I'm surprised they brought warlocks here, seeing as pets don't gain the damage buff at all, we're completely raped by other classes. I'm currently ranked 12th for demo locks in this fight with 27.7k dps... The top damage in our raid for that parse? 40k, by a shadowpriest.
name of interface?
@InTheoryGuild It's not about whether or not paragon deserved world first, it's about how they got it. Sure they did "get it", but they exploited the rip mechanic and blizzard said it themselves that it was not intended for rip to overscale the way it did with stolen power. Argue all you want, facts are facts and you're just a fanboy in the end.
Mikscrollingbattle text, SCT.....Which one is it?!?!
grats for world first without exploit
@natemc91 like paragon did it is but thats my oppinion. Its just not how its supposed to be played....imho
Moonkin UI?
To akousa kai egw! "Psofa gamidi", "GAMIDIIII"
GJ, Method! Pretty nice kill, btw
@tapio111 umad you cant do it?
grats on proper kill
@f3ll394 They did stack druids aswell, just saying.
@icyrazor SCT, the regular one.
@SpeedFragger Yeah except, it was 10, not counting sejta. And crits that high were only possible with (obviously) a crit and full combo points/trinkets. Paragon beat it fair and square, as did Method here. If Paragon had exploited, they would have been banned.
Congrats!!!!
@ko300zx
ye overall raid damage was very similar to half of paragon's
man i was so happy with this video untill the end .. i would think that the top raiders in the world would talk better to each others ... is a shame i am so tire of ppl been meen in wow to the point that i wish my account would get super hack
world first indeed
@MsThePierre What has this to do with envy ?! I'm talking that they didn't deserve Nef hc world first, because they abused a game mechanic.
World Second - Heroic Nefarian 25
World First - Biggest Group of Sore Losers
@Runestone12 and to conclude we all know they get it all handed to them on a plate..hell blizzard may as well just sponsor them
real world first, amazing, good luck in patch 4.1.
lolkins at the end - potion of illusion win.
@iceysan Raid DPS, not damage done. You know what I meant nerd. And @ rogerbrownaki as well - Taking raid DPS numbers from one of the final bits in your video and taking them from Paragon's final screenshot . 380k vs 390k. HUGE difference. Definitely right around half. Another poor attempt at acting like you had it so much harder.
Priest PoV was terrible, lower your graphics settings or get a better comp if your going to contribute please. Grats to method though on the kill, end was a nail biter for sure. I also like at the end the top priority was mocking paragon, lawl.
long live the broken weapons !
@MrNicolaai nice to know im not the only one that doesn't like all this rave music they decide to put on these videos
@MrIjijijijjiji & @Wowandflutter333
To clear things upa bout my post since you both failed to comprehend what i was saying, when paragon killed it they did NOT have the gear to kill it with a normal raid. They did what they had to do at the time to get the kill. Stack the best classes/specs for the encounter and that happened to be Druids. If method guild knew to to stack feral druids, they would have done the same fucking thing. Get over it, paragon killed it 20 days earlier then paragon.
@L05xPL rofl you think this is emo? awesome.
sick vid guys, definitely my favourite top-end guild.
lol at "PSOFA GAMIDI" ahahaaha THEOI.
@GuyN0ir Aren't all bugs Blizzards "Fault?" At least think before you post, exploiting bugs is part of world first competitions.
lol if a Illusion potion turns u into your target, how come i became a Gnome when i had a troll targeted xD ? tbh the transformations are pure random,