3 Ways To Increase Attack Angle | Golf Club Fitting Tips
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- Опубліковано 5 вер 2024
- Learning how to increase attack angle is an efficient way to gain more distance off the tee. While many golfers focus solely on swing speed or ball speed, delivering the golf club at impact efficiently is the a key component to distance.
In this video, 2nd Swing master fitter and professional golfer Thomas Campbell provides three tips that can help you increase attack angle. Campbell also explains why hitting up on the ball with an increase attack angle is beneficial to your game.
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Great information, Thank you Thomas for the awesome info
Thank you for watching Elson!
Step by step approach . Excellent
Best video i've ever seen about golf driver!
Thank you for watching! Glad you liked it!
You do such a great job on your videos, well done
Thank you for watching!
Solid points that definitely help you hit the ball farther, one advantage you have is the ability to know what your attack angle is, and I would guess 90 percent of golfers have no idea what their attack angle is.
For sure. Of course, anyone can stop into a 2nd Swing location and check it out in our Tour Van fittings!
I have the opposite issue from what you are describing. I am a senior golfer with a driver club head speed of about 87 mph. I use a 44.5" A flex driver shaft for consistency. Over the years I bought several high loft drivers and hit a lot of straight, high, and short drives. When you hear a solidly struck drive hit the ground with a thump with like a short iron, you know something is to quite right. One day in frustration, I turned my 12 degree Mizen JPX 850 A flex 0 driver down ro 8 degrees. The results were impressive. Although the driver was less forgiving, I picked up over 20 yards, I later learned that because of my wide shoulders and shorter arms I was delivering a dynamic loft of almost 20 degrees with high loft drivers. I now use a Cobra Speed Zone Tour Length A Flex driver set at 8.5 D and am hitting some of the best drives I ever have in the past 20 years.
I was just reading an article that suggested for slower swings, lower loft might be longer. Because the dynamic loft of a forward ball position and higher tee height doesn't demand a higher club loft.
Thanks Thomas for the great driver lesson!
You're welcome. Thanks for watching!
Excellent thanks
Excellent Thomas and this is the help I needed. My attack angle was -4.4 and I was hitting driver from middle of my stance. Did not even realize this and I was teeing up the ball too low as well. Great video!
Thanks for watching! I really hope this helps. You will have to let us know how much distance you pick up! - Thomas
Thanks for the video and the set up options for hitting up on the ball. I did notice that you swing speed was 113 mph(+5) vs 105 mph(-2) . How much did the increase in swing speed contribute to more carry and total distance vs the attack angle. Something that would have been helpful would be you swinging at 105mph but hitting up so we could see the difference due solely to attack angle. Thanks and hit em straight--NEVER MIND I see you answered that question already in the comments
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I think the increase in speed with the ball forward is a result of the club achieving higher speeds later in the swing.
Going to experiment with this tomorrow in the simulator, thanks Thomas!
Thank you for watching!
Excellent instruction!!! Subscribed.
These are great tips, thanks
Awesome information. I’m a beginner so your videos have been very helpful.
Thanks for watching, keep working hard - Thomas
Very clear. Thank you.
Forward position helps swing speed !! Must try this on my mini mevo! Thanks.
Thank you so much for watching!
Very good tip.
Thank you for watching!
Great lesson! many thanks!
Thanks for watching. - Thomas
Great instructional video, will be working on this today!
when I place the ball forward I start hooking the ball. Any solution?
Great info
Thanks for watching!
Very useful.
I have the setup, now just need to get consistent square face/center of face contact.
Im a neg 1-2 deg. Tee height is ok, if I put the tee further forward I tend to hit toe or slice/fade. I am closing the face and coming out to in as it only happens when I try to swing faster. Im working on opening the face and in to out path which trackman shows.
Its a journey......
It's definitely a journey! Takes a lot of repetition, but you're already ahead of the game knowing what you need to work on
Great tips, thx - New Subscriber
thank you great information
Thanks for watching - Thomas
Two questions:
Awesome, Interesting piece moving the ball forward to increase your swing speed, and having the left shoulder higher at the address to change the AoA, that said, is your Tempo the same with all clubs and the Driver.
With Driver, do you Closed stance, I find with a square stance and the ball forward will hook to the left, where is your focus point, The Ball, or behind the ball to get club speeds to 113 for distance
Worked and got my 90mph swing to launch a more optimal 15 degrees. The spin is 3600 though which I think may be too high. F7 driver with weight at the front.
Thanks, excellent adivce
Hi Thomas, i sometimes suffer a slice when i move the ball forward but i get better AOA of 5 up. However when i move it back a bit i get negative AOA. How can i keep it more forward to hit up on it but not get the slice? Hi from the UK 🇬🇧
thanks
Liked and subscribed. Quick question though, the more i hit up on it the lower my smash is and the higher my launch angle. Hitting a 9 degree driver and i hover around 18 launch angle when i want to be closer to 13
Michael, thanks for watching and contributing! I've seen this exact thing in the fitting bays. A lot of guys on tour have a "higher launch angle", which is great for distance, when paired with the correct loft for launch conditions. I wouldn't say it's a "red flag" at all, with launching the ball high. If you have an adjustable driver, I would suggest lowering the loft and adjusting the face angle (if possible). That way we can get you into the middle of the clubhead and maximize those conditions. Ultimately, a fitting would really be benefitial. Changing the center of gravity in the driver head can change launch conditions greatly...(forward weighted vs back-weighted). Shaft weight and flex also play a big role in this. -Danny
Lets go bud, nice video!!!
Thanks for watching!
Great video Thomas sorry late to your guys’ channel. How do we fix the hooks? I tend to hook my shots now when the ball is further forward.
When the ball is further forward there is more time for the club to exit left. I would add in feeling like you are swinging out to right field - Thomas
great info!
Thank you!
When moving the ball forward, what additional club path adjustments are necessary as well as wrist cupping ?? Excellent comments regarding LPGA. Notice too the shaft flex they use... Key is they don't have a testosterone "I have to kill it" thought when they swing :)
Thanks for watching!! One thing to note is that as you move the ball forward in the stance, the club path will tend to become more out to in.
@@2ndswing I’ve noticed a strong power fade as well and extra roll.
What key? Many of the top PGA players try to hit their drivers with quite a bit of speed and/or close to max effort and they hit it miles past the LPGA players. Bryson can outdrive some of them by 200 yards
where do i get that rubber tee from ?
Would moving the ball forward also help with a swing that is too inside out? Maybe give it more time to come in a straight path? I’m struggling with an 8 degree inside out path with inconsistent contact and need to fix it. Thx!
In testing we have found that moving the ball forward does help correct an in to out path. Generally, the farther back the ball is, the more open the clubface is at impact. Now, the face angle isn't the same as club path, but a more corrected club path can mitigate issues with the face angle.
Great video Thomas! What do you recommend for a guy who’s launching it too high (16-18 degrees)? Cheers!
I tend to tee my ball lower then usual when im hitting negative with a negative angle because whenever I tee it high i usually hit a sky shot which goes nowhere. Will teeing it up higher not make it worse for me?
Anyone know what tee set up he’s using? I’m breaking tees left and right. Birdee tees are cool and all but won’t translate to the course
Trackman stats for pga tour players, avg driver attack angle -1.7
they need control not distance average about 170 ball speed however most people need more ballspeed
Hi Thomas. I’m trying to do all that you are suggesting but I’m still hitting down on the ball on average -2.0. I literally carry the ball 190 with a total of 225. Swing speed is on average 92. What am I doing wrong? It’s frustrating the hell out of me. PXG gen 5, 12 degree with reg flex is my driver.
If you can feel like your left shoulder is higher than right at impact this will help. I suggest putting some tape over the crown of the driver and go to the range and use really long tees and force yourself to make good contact - Thomas
Hello, club head and ball speeds have big differences between the two groups. It would be more accurate to compare the carry distance and total distance at the same clubhead and ball speeds. Are the speeds different as the result of the attack angles?
Great question. I have found by increasing attack angle and using the ground that my driver club speed has increased compared to a negative attack angle - Thomas
C'mon Thomas. You cant swing it 10mph faster and say it was the ball position that added the distance
Thanks for watching. Ball position absolutely lead to more distance. It is so important to help imporve your attack angle. Swinging with a negative attack angle it very uncomfortable for me and was hard to swing faster. Catching the ground will also slow your club speed down. Even still every mph club speed is 2-3 yards. Lets just say club speed that is 10mph faster with a negative attack angle that would equate to an additional 30 yards. Still 50 yards short of the postive attack angle example. Hope this helps.
Hitting down on it and getting 50 yards of roll? What is the fairway, an airport runway? Gtfoh with that roll. 😂😂😂
Also, 106 swing speed vs 113 swing speed will make all the difference.
Don’t get me wrong, I’m all about hitting up on the ball, but your monitor set up is BS and you sand bagged the swing speed. Smh
Thanks for watching. Every mph club speed is 2-3 yards. Say its 3 yards which would mean 243 v 293 carry distance comparing the exact same swing speed. Still a 50 yard carry distance gain...Carry distance is where its at as we know unless its a links course the ball will not roll 50 yards. Also its hard to swing the club as fast when you hit down on the ball as you hit ground slowing the club down. Hope this helps and if you trust the TrackMan data you will hit much longer drives by increasing your attack angle.
I thought the ball position forward would encourage a slice or a hook?
What if your launch angle is too high like 18?
Then you have the opportunity for less loft on the driver and more ball speed. - Thomas
you're getting awfully low spin numbers for that negative angle of attack. I know when i used to have a negative angle of attack my spin with driver ranged anywhere from 2900 rpms to over 3500 rpms. And i wasn't hitting the ground with the driver, just catching it on the downswing. I'm better now than what i was, but i'm still just only able to get about 2-3 degrees upward angle of attack. I believe if i got another 2 degrees somehow it would make a world of difference. In any case, for me, my clubhead speed never changed because of all this (same speed, regardless of ball position or shoulder tilt). But the the combination of those factors did help me to reduce the ball spin down to between 2000-2400 rpms. And i'm getting more rollout than i did.
Keep in mind hit location will also influence that spin. But generally a steeper attack angle will cause more spin but a higher hit location on the face. Tee height really helps!
Great video thanks for the tips. But the LGPA has women, not girls in it.
Girls aren’t women? 🤔
@@Brooks_Cupcake a girl is a female child. I’ve never seen a child on the LPGA.
The 65+ year old women at my club are often called girls or gals. They don't mind it a bit, and use it themselves - probably more than the men/boys do. 😁
increasing tee height increases head speed🤣😂
I don’t think Thomas actually meant it in that context, even though he said it does.
@@Brooks_Cupcake ua-cam.com/video/NZHH_OgXYkg/v-deo.html = ball forward or tee higher......same thing. 8mph club speed increase is ALOT and Thomas would know the difference at his level ..............higher tee OR ball forward = faster clubhead speed...🤣😂
Thanks for watching. It sure makes a huge difference. Not saying a golfer will physically swing faster with a higher tee or by moving the ball position further forward... but if your not catching the ground like you can when hitting down on the ball with a negative attack angle the ground will not slow you down. Even still with faster club speed this video clearly shows the impportance of increasing your attack angle.
@@2ndswing the last tip was the most relevant.
Maintaining spine angle and having that trail shoulder dropping lower, and your lead shoulder coming higher as you come into impact, is something that absolutely makes sense to me.
I had a casual instructor tell me recently to slow my shoulder rotation as I was hitting more hooks than I used to, and the feeling of your shoulder tip helps my upper body “hang back” a bit longer to get that positive AOA. Thanks again boys, Thomas you’re able to share information that is easily understood.
Dudes club speed went up almost 10mph when he moved the ball forward. He didn’t hit it farther cuz of the ball position. He hit it further because he swung harder. He didn’t swing that hard earlier in the video. Scam.