The French Navy in WW2
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La Marine Française (French Navy) is still called “La Royale” to this day (“Royal” (navy)) according to its pre-revolutionary traditions. Of considerable size by 1918, she was drastically reduced after Washington’s treat limitation in 1922, shaping in the end a smaller, but homogeneous fleet of excellent overall quality, but nevertheless with some inherent limitations that would have hampered its capabilities in WW2 if her fate has to serve with the allies for the whole duration of the conflict.
Instead she suffered a cruel fate, most of its officers remaining faithful to Vichy France. French ships were found either sunk, fighting the allies, or scuttled. A fraction however escaped this fate for various reasons, but in the end remaining ships still present in the Empire swapped side due to Admiral Darlan‘s own shifting of allegiance and joined the allies, participating in many operations until the end of the war under the Free French flag.
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The German Navy was tiny compared to the French Navy early in the war. No comparison.
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Grandfather served on the Montcalm as a machinist. One of the D-Day support ships mentioned towards the end of the video. Met my grandmother during the 1943 refit in Philadelphia.
I like this new series, cant wait for the IJN in WW1 and WW2
Thanks for sharing this story about the French navy. Seems to be discussed very little in schools.
The Dutch Government - went into exile in Britain and so - it's colonies were still part of the Allies - when they were attacked by the Japanese.
The French Government - did not go into exile as it very well could have - so Indochina, consisting of Vietnam, Laos & Cambodia - allowed the Japanese to come in and take over. The Chinese had been getting supplies through Indochina so that when the Japanese took over - they cut off that supply route for the Chinese.
When that happened - the US cut off Japan's oil. Because of that - Japan attacked the US, UK & The Dutch in Indonesia.
So - it could could be said - that the United States fought World War Two over Vietnam.
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Just think how those ships could have been used against the Germans if the French navy hadn't been so proud and sunk their own ships.
and, in reverse, think how much damage these could have done to allied fleeets in italian or german hands...
To fully inderstand french response to these compelling offers, one has to remember lasting english french fleets rivalry. After all, he english only decided to not support Germany in the late 1890's, thus becoming France's ally
And, more than anything, the french navy has always had very a conservative-to say the least- mind alongside an strong antisemitic miltary tradition...
I think the British sank them
@@mikeholland1031 a couple of ship were destroyed by the Royal navy, in 19-40 . When germans invaded the zone libre (free zone, administered by a so called french government),the main part of the french fleet anchored in Toulon was scuttled to keep them from being seized and used by the germans and italiens... only one ship refused the orders and managed to escape,. Not a major unit
the british had to sink the french navy in case the germans got to use them
Provence was not a destroyer, but a rather old battleship . And Dakar was not a fight between two french forces, but a fight between Vichy's navy and english navy; and Vichy forces won the battle.
Battle of Mers-el-Kébir
this is as bad as me trying to say french words....i feel you bro....good effort lol
A swing and a miss is infinitely better than no attempt at all.
The Plan was not to attack Mers but to get it to see that not fighting with the Allies against the Germans was a bad idea!
France had forgotten 1807!
In 1807, the Royal Navy and the Army undertook a joint operation to prevent the powerful Danish fleet from falling into French hands.
It ended with the British occupation of Copenhagen and the capture of Danish warships.
The French Navy also had a fleet at Toulon in the Med.
This nonsense can all be laid at the foot of the Commander of Vichy France in North Africa. The guy changed his mind more than people change socks. Also the Brits and French had an agreement that neither would surrender without acceptance of the other. Winston turned around to grab his third scotch and the French had capitulated.
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Strasbourg escaped HMS Hood and the British ambush. That got RN seriously think their old queen is in need of thorough modernisation. Hood had her turbines in miserable condition, after 20 years of constant service.
Long Live France!
Its funny how modern day people question French actions. Vichy France was legitime government of France, and soldiers obey orders. Should they had acted against orders of their government and surrender to Royal Navy? De Gaulle was an mutineer in 1940, with very little following. Time changed things, and redeemed De Gaulles mutiny against his government.
Equally, should the British be criticised for taking action intended to prevent the navy of a collaborationalist government potentially being used to support a German invasion of Great Britain?
The British ultimatum, by the way, also suggested that the French Fleet should relocate to a French West Indian port where it could remain under neutral US supervision, by Gensoul chose not to mention that to his own government.
Odd that you didn't mention that.
Look at what ships of other nations conquered by the Germans did. Most either went down fighting the Germans or joined their governments in exile to continue the battle from the U.K.
In contrast a minority of French ships joined the resistance against further Nazi conquest.
@@mattwilliams3456 Examples. Norway: Legal government fled to GB, never made any overtures to stop fighting, and Norway largely continued to fight, actively and passive, home and abroad, their merchant marine being huge. Denmark: Legal government stayed in country, made armistace with Germany, and there was near peacetime situation for several years in Denmark. Netherlands: Legal government fled to GB, made no overtures to stop fighting, etc.. You dont have a clue that the Petain government was the legally selected government of France in 1940.
The French had to learn the hard way if you have britain as ally.The . the Army, the Navy and Madagascar had their own story!
It wasn't the British who broke the alliance. It was the French, on 22 June, 1940.
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Velour or Valor? These AI text tumbles are an invitation to leave the clumsy errors behind.
When the jig was up 1940 the French Fleet should have sailed to Atlantic safe french ports not get bottled up in the Mediterranean. Italy had a big fleet that surly would attack eventually. Britain took care of both.
No way England was going to see any capital French ships fall into the hands of axis. The French Navy should have booked it to St.Pierre summer 1940. Got the hell away from Germans, Italians and Britain. Get the hell out of European waters for a bit. Use French navy after that to escort convoys from Halifax and St.John's to England. Not smart.
Unreal waste man. Those boats would help in convoys.
A tragic business, but it had to be done
no surrender
The French were like the special ed kid who gets put in the gym class with all the athletes
USELESS