For my Montgomery 17, so far I have been able to anchor close to where I want to be, thanks to shoal draft, so an inexpensive small Sevylor inflatable has been sufficient, if not ideal. I've not had a puncture despite landing on rocky, barnacled beaches. For all but the shortest of hops between anchorages in the calmest of weather, I simply deflate it and stuff it in an anchor locker. However, this is a poor solution for traveling longer distances by dinghy. I've used it in the North Channel, Chesapeake Bay, Maine, and the Buzzard's Bay Vineyard Sound area. For my Tartan 26 project, the plan is to use a design by Wooden Widget called the Fliptail, a folding dinghy (vids on You Tube) that can be rowed, outboard, or even sailed. Available in various lengths, too, but the 6' model should be fine for me. Folded, it is 6'-2" x 2'-0" x 0'-10" and I have a spot planned under the cockpit just for it. Set up and break down is very quick for rowing.
Those folding dinghies seem terrific! Good for you. We have always wondered if they work well and last a good long time. We have quite a few visitors and anchor out as often as we can so we have opted for a bigger dinghy but we’ll keep evaluating options as technology changes!
Thank you for this very helpful video. I'm a big fan of your channel and it's my first go to for all things about the boat and sailing. My sailboat is a CS33 and I'm location on Georgian Bay. I do not plan to be in bleu water. I have a 10' dinghy and a 9.9hp 4 stroke outboard that weighs about 100lb. It looks like most people at my marina tow the dinghy, but I'd like to lift the outboard onto a bracket. It looks like most brackets are rated for less than 100lb. My question is, can I keep most of the outboard weight on the crane and go with an underweight bracket? I'd add the additional strut as you suggest. I was also considering installing a motor mount on the transom which would be a more heavy duty solution. Thank you for any suggestions you might have. Kind regards, Mark
Hello Mark. Thanks for the kind words. You have beautiful cruising grounds in Georgian Bay...we loved it there. If you look around you should be able to find an outboard mounting bracket for the stern rail that can hold 100lbs. Here's one for example, www.westmarine.com/west-marine-rail-mount-outboard-bracket-8232381.html?&BADL%5D%5BPLA%5D%20All%20Categories_Test&gad_source=1&gclid=Cj0KCQjwzZmwBhD8ARIsAH4v1gWkT-yP7DEm5Cjudqi7tY7tmZh1aDRpBtygQFLf3uyRf8zSOrs3FgQaAhIkEALw_wcB. I would not trust an outboard crane to take some of the weight. And a transom mount might mean that the outboard is lower to the water and also in the way during docking/maneuvers. Having it up higher on the stern rail would be a lot safer. You might grasp the stern rail firmly and see if you can move it forward/aft to understand how strong it is and whether you need an additional strut. Good luck!
Thank you for good video that I had wanted to know Why didn’t you use original jeannaue devit? I installed original devit. Good desing and strong I think. I have finished commissioning so440 and will start new voyage with her Your videos are very helpful to set up my yacht (same with yours) and level up my sailing skill. Thank you very much
We are so happy that our videos are helpful to you! Where are you located and where do you hope to sail her? I am pretty sure the davit you speak of was not available when we got our boat. We ordered out 440 the week it was first unveiled so there were a couple things that were not options for us. I am glad you are happy with them!
@@LifeFourPointZero I have one more question. Could you recommend anchor for ss440? I have original anchor but I was told we need one more anchor for circumnavogation.
Hi Karen and Tom. Just started following your channel and impressed with the thoughtful analysis as well as your sailing resume. Great form on the slopes too :). The davit video hits all the points I have been debating. Question: for your crossings in open ocean, do you use the davits and are they working out ok in ocean passages or do you carry the dingy on the foredeck for the crossings? We have a Hanse 43, with a wide, open transom similar to yours, so many of the same concerns re spacing.
Hi - thanks for the nice comments. Glad you found our videos helpful. So far, we have kept the dinghy on the davits during crossings. It has worked fine. For crossing the Atlantic this coming fall, I (Karen) have made a canvas cover that will help shed water if following seas are big. I made it at home and am keeping my fingers crossed that it will fit when we return to the boat!
@@LifeFourPointZero Well that's what I was wondering about I guess. You have had following seas dump into the dingy? This concerns me. On our 43, there is not enough room forward of the mast, and i have a below deck jib furler that has been known to act up (at the worst possible time of course). I have to be able to get to it.
@robertconnerney6363 We have not had following seas dump into the dinghy but I’m afraid it is only a matter of time before we do. When we crossed the Gulf Stream (with no dinghy on davits), we had waves crashing into our cockpit! It will happen at some point. We have added structural strength to the areas the davits are attached to on the stern. We always pull the plug in the dinghy but that’s just a finger in the dyke. That’s why I made a tent with steep sides to shed any water that hits it. I agree with you that the foredeck causes a lot of problems and we are going to stick with the davits, unless we have some epiphany. I guess if all sh!t hits the fan, we can cut the dinghy loose and count our losses. I personally feel that a dinghy on the foredeck is incredibly dangerous when any foredeck work is needed. We have a whisker pole that would be suicidal to utilize with a huge dinghy in the way. In the end, we are evaluating the risks and making sure there are exit plans for horrible conditions. Hope this helps.
Very well done. Thanks for sharing this helpful video.
Glad you liked it - thanks for watching!
For my Montgomery 17, so far I have been able to anchor close to where I want to be, thanks to shoal draft, so an inexpensive small Sevylor inflatable has been sufficient, if not ideal. I've not had a puncture despite landing on rocky, barnacled beaches. For all but the shortest of hops between anchorages in the calmest of weather, I simply deflate it and stuff it in an anchor locker. However, this is a poor solution for traveling longer distances by dinghy. I've used it in the North Channel, Chesapeake Bay, Maine, and the Buzzard's Bay Vineyard Sound area.
For my Tartan 26 project, the plan is to use a design by Wooden Widget called the Fliptail, a folding dinghy (vids on You Tube) that can be rowed, outboard, or even sailed. Available in various lengths, too, but the 6' model should be fine for me. Folded, it is 6'-2" x 2'-0" x 0'-10" and I have a spot planned under the cockpit just for it. Set up and break down is very quick for rowing.
Those folding dinghies seem terrific! Good for you. We have always wondered if they work well and last a good long time. We have quite a few visitors and anchor out as often as we can so we have opted for a bigger dinghy but we’ll keep evaluating options as technology changes!
I just noticed that we have sailed in many of the same places as you! What are your plans for the coming summer? What is on your sailing bucket list?
Thank you for this very helpful video. I'm a big fan of your channel and it's my first go to for all things about the boat and sailing. My sailboat is a CS33 and I'm location on Georgian Bay. I do not plan to be in bleu water. I have a 10' dinghy and a 9.9hp 4 stroke outboard that weighs about 100lb. It looks like most people at my marina tow the dinghy, but I'd like to lift the outboard onto a bracket. It looks like most brackets are rated for less than 100lb. My question is, can I keep most of the outboard weight on the crane and go with an underweight bracket? I'd add the additional strut as you suggest. I was also considering installing a motor mount on the transom which would be a more heavy duty solution. Thank you for any suggestions you might have. Kind regards, Mark
Hello Mark. Thanks for the kind words. You have beautiful cruising grounds in Georgian Bay...we loved it there. If you look around you should be able to find an outboard mounting bracket for the stern rail that can hold 100lbs. Here's one for example, www.westmarine.com/west-marine-rail-mount-outboard-bracket-8232381.html?&BADL%5D%5BPLA%5D%20All%20Categories_Test&gad_source=1&gclid=Cj0KCQjwzZmwBhD8ARIsAH4v1gWkT-yP7DEm5Cjudqi7tY7tmZh1aDRpBtygQFLf3uyRf8zSOrs3FgQaAhIkEALw_wcB. I would not trust an outboard crane to take some of the weight. And a transom mount might mean that the outboard is lower to the water and also in the way during docking/maneuvers. Having it up higher on the stern rail would be a lot safer. You might grasp the stern rail firmly and see if you can move it forward/aft to understand how strong it is and whether you need an additional strut. Good luck!
Thank you for good video that I had wanted to know
Why didn’t you use original jeannaue devit? I installed original devit. Good desing and strong I think.
I have finished commissioning so440 and will start new voyage with her
Your videos are very helpful to set up my yacht (same with yours) and level up my sailing skill. Thank you very much
We are so happy that our videos are helpful to you! Where are you located and where do you hope to sail her?
I am pretty sure the davit you speak of was not available when we got our boat. We ordered out 440 the week it was first unveiled so there were a couple things that were not options for us. I am glad you are happy with them!
@@LifeFourPointZero I have one more question. Could you recommend anchor for ss440? I have original anchor but I was told we need one more anchor for circumnavogation.
Hi Karen and Tom. Just started following your channel and impressed with the thoughtful analysis as well as your sailing resume. Great form on the slopes too :). The davit video hits all the points I have been debating. Question: for your crossings in open ocean, do you use the davits and are they working out ok in ocean passages or do you carry the dingy on the foredeck for the crossings? We have a Hanse 43, with a wide, open transom similar to yours, so many of the same concerns re spacing.
Hi - thanks for the nice comments. Glad you found our videos helpful. So far, we have kept the dinghy on the davits during crossings. It has worked fine. For crossing the Atlantic this coming fall, I (Karen) have made a canvas cover that will help shed water if following seas are big. I made it at home and am keeping my fingers crossed that it will fit when we return to the boat!
@@LifeFourPointZero Well that's what I was wondering about I guess. You have had following seas dump into the dingy? This concerns me. On our 43, there is not enough room forward of the mast, and i have a below deck jib furler that has been known to act up (at the worst possible time of course). I have to be able to get to it.
@robertconnerney6363
We have not had following seas dump into the dinghy but I’m afraid it is only a matter of time before we do. When we crossed the Gulf Stream (with no dinghy on davits), we had waves crashing into our cockpit! It will happen at some point. We have added structural strength to the areas the davits are attached to on the stern. We always pull the plug in the dinghy but that’s just a finger in the dyke. That’s why I made a tent with steep sides to shed any water that hits it. I agree with you that the foredeck causes a lot of problems and we are going to stick with the davits, unless we have some epiphany.
I guess if all sh!t hits the fan, we can cut the dinghy loose and count our losses. I personally feel that a dinghy on the foredeck is incredibly dangerous when any foredeck work is needed. We have a whisker pole that would be suicidal to utilize with a huge dinghy in the way.
In the end, we are evaluating the risks and making sure there are exit plans for horrible conditions.
Hope this helps.
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