BEST MOD? New wheel arrangements for the S282 in Derail Valley!
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- Опубліковано 12 вер 2024
- Huge props to Satiric, creator of the S282 Rearranged mod... this is way too neat.
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Thanks again for the wonderful words Hyce! 14:41 isn't quite correct - in the simulation code, I'm changing the wheel size, but not the piston size or piston stroke. If I were to change the wheel size and the piston stroke, there would be no difference in tractive effort between the different wheel arrangements, and I kinda like how the tractive effort changes.
20:47 ah yes, the Flying Scotsman approach to stopping the train :)
I suppose that's true! If you're just scaling the wheels, you're just scaling the ratio. You've got some quantum squishy-piston madness going on there, but seriously, so cool. Thanks again for making the mod!
@@Hyce777 no worries! It's been fun to work on. Ideally I would change the animation to make the stroke look right, but I'm bad at animations so it would take me a long time to get right. Plus there are other neat things I'm working on for this mod...
@@satiric_ please give me an excuse to make another video :D
@@Hyce777 that's the plan haha
the tender says eat shit & me?
If you have 82 inch drivers , they would turn 246 revolutions per mile, so per minute that would be 60 mph so 61.5 rpm would be 15 mph. So 615 rpm = 150 mph. Once you have the revolutions per mile of ANY wheel you can determine the speed at any rpm because the revolutions per mile = the revolutions per minute @ 60 miles per hour or 1 mile per minute.
I did that the last time i rode amtrack. I counted the thumps of a flat spot to see how fast the freight was going before the tobago showed up. It was 34mph 😁
Hyce: leaves the handbrake on on the tender
Also hyce: why does it struggle to haul
Hyce seems to forget handbrakes somewhere in every video, yet cannot remember to think about that when he has problems getting moving :P
Happens to me all the time.
Not just the handbrake.
"Is the independent still on?.."
It’s just incredible on how the mod community can make the game more enjoyable. And it’s the first day of Spooky month, keep up the great work
You may find the halfway-open setting on steamers' sand handle is sometimes enough to keep it from slipping. The advantage becomes that you don't drain the whole dome as quick
Flying Scotsman experienced a coupling at Hyce speeds last week. Two minor injuries from what I read.
I saw. Glad it wasn't worse.
Me: Is that smells like Kenosha?
Hyce: And we're getting low on water.
Me: That's a yes then.
The most wonderfully cursed mod I think i've seen in any train game. Kudos to the creator.
was i the only one screaming "hyce ya set the handbrake on the locomotive ahhh!!!" at the screen
He also set the handbrakes on one of the yellow coal cars. smh.
@@web1bastler nono i mean he physically clicked the button in game to set the handbrake XD
I was just waiting for Hyce to say: You're already hearing Smells Like Kenosha, aren't you.
That would be such a 4th wall breaking point, but oh so weird if nothing happened!
Ending Smells Like Kenosha with a rimshot, just to keep us guessing.
Imagine Hyce pulling off a Pinkie like that... :D
This is a little random but, I have synesthesia, specifically such that my senses of taste, emotion, and sound get all mixed up (lexical-gustatory synethesia). I'm saying this because your music, Hyce, always hits just right and really tastes good and helps me feel better when I'm having a bad day. :)
Thanks for being awesome! I love the vid too
Just gonna say this now, Hyce. As fun and hilarious as it is when you accidentally blow up a steamer in your ES&D career save, I suggest you dump the fire any and every time your water glass runs empty. Don't even risk it, just dump the fire completely, _then_ open the injector after the firebox cools a good bit. Best way to avoid an explosion, at least in game. Plus, it hasn't worked for me every time, so there's still a chance for shenanigans!
I love the design on the ten wheeler! Actually looks (somewhat) legit. And its also a bit of a speed demon like 20!
The 4-4-0 version reminds me of an old Lionel set I used to own. It was a New York Central 4-4-2 Atlantic that had that exact wheel setup. It came with a yellow flatcar, green boxcar, and a red caboose. A semi truck with a stake bed trailer was also included with it.
I CONTINUE TO BE PROUD OF YOU FOR USING THE DAMPERS EVEN WHEN IT DOESN'T MATTER BECAUSE SANDBOX YAAAAAAAY!
Also you can partially open and close them to fine tune your rate of fire
I found out the absolute maximum you can haul with the S282 out of the coal mine (unmodded) is 822 tons
Is that a challenge?
@@Hyce777 yes, and I would be damn impressed if you beat it.
One last thing: for Sandbox, and I guess time of day stuff, I suggest DV Utilities. Great mod, allows you to do a ton of fun stuff, and it's an openable and collapsible menu.
Gotta love it when Kenosha starts, it's a guessing game, what's it gonna be this time? Run outta water and blow it up? Take a corner too fast and roll it over? DUNK a bit too hard?
Too bad about the nighttime, but it was cool to see the brake shoes glow like molten iron. I didn't know they did that in game. I wonder if the tires will do that too...
Professor Hyse you helped solve my choochoos Spontanious Dissassembly problems, and i only had to use the water summoning ritual once!
Maybe a higher capacity tender should be the next mod since the vanilla tender doesn't seem to cut it.
4:43 You might as well increase teleport distance while you're at it.
4:49 lol...
5:58 LOL!
9:57 Just for reference: That's about as much as an F-4E Phantom II puts out in thrust with all the beanz.
10:14 Mother of me...
10:51 What's the disadvantage of removing them? Only starting to learn about the effects of wheel arrangement through your content, so I'm curious :)
11:26 Get a full save and do the custom settings thing ^^
13:34 lol. At least it wasn't the independent...
17:38 That sign be like: "C'mon, you're free to do 90, not .9!"
20:45 Classic Hyce ^^
28:13 lol... hesaisgigglingaround.jpg ^^
29:03 It is fine. It's fine. Can't smell the Kenosha yet...
29:36 I still wonder what the "bad firebox sounds" are
32:35 Not as much as doing it in Veeeee fricken Orre!
34:26 Derail Valley Is A Horror Game.png
35:13 ROFFLESTOMPED!
38:09 Derail Valley Is A Horror Game.
38:18 Derail Valley Is A Horror Game!
39:32 It's fine.
42:24 Just as nice as the Smell Of Kenosha in the morn'!
43:54 AlL tHe BeEeEaNz!
45:29 That happens when you still got some embers going...
45:45 A wild Cthulhu appeared!
45:57 I may repeat myself here: Derail Valley Is A Horror Game!
46:23 What happens in night shift stays in night shift! :D
46:43 It's fine... it is fine!
Me when Hyce showed the wheel arrangement change: cool.
Me when he said it affected tractive effort and adhesion: 😮🤯
Also, yeah, if you dump the fire, then put fresh coal into a firebox with a still hot bottom and sides, a good draft, and the blower maxed out, one might find their fire relighting itself
Single tear
I cant wait for what people make with custom car loader
I know I want to make some stuff but Im not sure how to yet
I would love to see a 4-2-2 Wheel arangement
Wouldn't that be a Sterling single (e.g. Emily from Thomas the Tank Engine)?
@@ZergSmasher yes, thats why i think it would be funny
Bro got that a1 Atlantic wheel arrangement
@@ZergSmasherYes
This is truly the best mod in the history of DV!
4:57 But Hyce, Silly *is* the scheduled programming.
Damn it hyce. Now we need yo remind you about independents, hand brakes and water. I thought you ran these professionally lol
42:36
*Drums start playing*
Me: WHY DO I SMELL KENOSHA?
Gee Hyce, what would happen if you modified the locomotive for rocket assist?
Great job Hyce on the locomotive blowup.
The 4-4-0 looks like a tinplate Loin L model train
Iirc once you get all the licenses you can edit difficulties and just add camera mode to whatever cursed setup you want.
Exactly, and it is sufficient to just get a savegame that has all the licenses and dump it into your savegame folder to get there.
I was screaming and laughing the whole time the handbrake was left on the locomotive and cars, I'm just so used to playing with Driver UI that was the first thing I noticed.
You might go reverse through the loop reverse up, then start with 4-4-0 to get it going as fast as possible after going again through the loop and as it slows down changing the wheel setup ^^
Not sure how fast you could go around the loop, but you would've that as starting speed and then could accelerate on the straight until you hit the grades.
4-4-0 looks so silly but yet so aesthetically pleasing
Thats honestly very realistic, since GN did that with some of there older power into faster passenger engines
They even thought about converting a J-1 Prairie into a Mallet, where the low pressure engine and drivers were under the tender. So it would have been a 2-6-2+6-2 (with the "+6-2" bit being the stuff under the tender, essentially a Triplex but with only 4 cylinders). Sadly it was never actually made.
@satiric_ If your talking the Brits GN, yes but not the American GN. We never considered such a design
I was expecting some form of articulated mess, this is 10 times funnier!
you got to have the american style coupler mod
Not the fer-fer-ohh!
Going down hill and watching the water disappear I was screaming “turn the blower off turn it offffffffffff your wasting water man”
@hyce777, by any chance, are you gonna upload more of the awesome music you and Wings created to Spotify? I really enjoy the music in your videos and I would love to listen to it by itself.
35:11 Trackside detector is malfunctioning again because you have several hot boxes
No matter how much i look at it, a 4-4-4 does not get any less cursed - also, mikados look wonky and i will die on this hill
Also, it's not reading, it's jubilee, fite me lol
Hyce what was you experience with automatic stokers and oil atomizers? Also, do you have any experience with a front-end throttle?
im giving her all she's got captain!
Wow, definitely going to have to try this one. If I had any niggle it'd be that you can't choose a smaller wheel diameter for some of the smaller arrangements.
At least with how I play, I need pulling power more than speed, so having a low-slung 4-4-0 or 4-6-0 would be more beneficial than a high-drivered passenger model.
Is there an Atlantic wheel arrangement-? (4-4-2) Cause I’ll be real, the 4-4-0 looks quite unbalanced lol. Could use a trailing truck under the cab.
That's what I was thinking, too. A 2-4-2 Columbia type would be cool, too.
There is an Atlantic yeah. I think the Atlantic and the Pacific are my two favorite arrangements in the current version.
On the mountain you lose up to 50% of the tensile load
However, the steam locomotive can use up to 75% tensile load
Hey @Hyce777 have you seen or heard of the 1336 pannier tank mod for DV
You can use WASD to move around while locked to your train
You can also hold shift and use the scroll wheel to quickly move up or down the train
My favorite arrangement is the 0-0-0
It's immune to the Smell Of Kenosha!
There is no such thing as a 0-0-0 only thing that is close to the 0-0-0 is a 0-6-0
@@user-uu3en4yo2p its a joke
@@user-uu3en4yo2p It's a joke, you don't have to be very funny as a person.
And anyway the closest thing to a 0-0-0 is a 0-4-0
this is the steam equivilant of the caddy 4-6-8
I almost made the climb with the default at 1100T. Stalled near the summit. Darn! You need a diesel to help it at 1000T+
Love your videos so much they make my day
By the power invested in me I here by decree that you Hyce of Kenosha shall from this day forth shall use the S282 mod in career playthrough. However thou shall not be able to change whatever engine he comes across and must only use what has been given to him. So it is written so it shall be so go forth young engineer and bin all the trains your heart desires. Your people await the results.
I mean... or people are cool with that id be super happy to do that haha
@@Hyce777 Honestly it just adds to the chaos of your career playthrough. Maybe ask your audience I have a feeling they'd be on board.
...what? No Single with 9'6" drivers?!
man dude ive been behind, i just found out about this sim! Ill have to try it soon!
Just you wait until Katycat updates CCL to add steam engines again ;p
Give. Me. The. I1sa
@@Hyce777 give me the beans
When editing the settings of a save, change the weather editor setting to on. Then once in game press alt and look to thy top right 👍
Yeah you really rearranged that engine you even gave it a huge mustache.
The speed went over a 100 for a second after the blow-up 😂
I love this episode, i learned how much the driver size can change the whole out come of power! X3
How long you left your blower rockin' was no less than frustrating, given you were just asking where all your water went. Your cold fire be damned, in the back half you certainly didn't need so much
If they haven't already, the mod creator should add a single wheeler version. :P
Add the gauge mod to get The Ultimate So2o Monorail Edition, basically a o1o XD
I more meant single wheeler in the Sterling Single context, which would be something like a 4-2-2 or a 2-2-2, but a steam unicycle would be hillarious.@@CakePrincessCelestia
1:17 Hyce: How bout a ten wheeler
Also Hyce: Proceeds to show a 4-6-0 and not a 2-10-0 or something with actually 10 drivers.
@TheOofertaffy 4-6-0's are called ten wheelers, not that it has ten drivers
@@jsjinc.8949Same thing for the 4-4-0. They were called 8 wheelers, not the 2-8-0s
The 0120 switcher has amazing pulling power.
Lol, I love this mod, this locomotive mod is amazing, keep up the good work.
*facepalm* hyce is trying to push trough brakes again lmao
I've done this exact job with a stock 2-8-2 :p
What a cool mod!
Hey man! So a few days ago I found a old blueprint of D&RGW no.42, maybe you can add her to Century of Steam.
This is so much fun and cool
G'day Hyce, I know you don't like the 4F whistle but have been into the scenio planner on TSW 3? I have used two 8F's from Cumberland to Rockwood with the limestone wagons, it's on the sand patch grade Sim. The Jubilee,8F and 4F work on all the scenios on TSW 3 including the ICE route. I have some issues on the Sherman Hill Sim, the brakes do not work, horseshoe curve Sim the brakes do not release, but I don't have any problems is scenario mode with steam. It's a lot harder than the Diesel's they provide. Love your different type of episodes. Always informative with your knowledge. I live in Newcastle NSW Australia. On railroads Online why don't you have steam in the middle like Denver and Rio Grand loco at the front and one or two in the train somewhere? ,✅🤠🇦🇺
I’m curious, what drive wheel setup is the most efficient in steam trains, like the best power to weight ratios, or size to traction ratio whichever is the correct way of putting it
Railroads Online added signs & a new map.
Edit: train with glowing brake shoes at night is pretty.
It seems that Hyce is done with RRO, at least for now. He's had a lot of complaints about it the last time he played, and it doesn't seem likely that he'll return to it any time soon. Especially with his own game being developed currently.
Hi Hyce, did you know they have a new update for railroads online? Just came out a couple of days ago !
Railroads Online has signs and stuff now!
Does choosing a wheel arrangement without leading wheels make it easier to derail?
Hey, I'm the moron who made this mod. Not in the current version unfortunately, right now the leading and trailing wheels just decrease the adhesive weight (in Derail Valley, adhesive weight is calculated as loco weight times number of powered axles divided by total number of axles). I like this idea though and might implement it in a later version.
Ideally leading wheels would make it harder to derail when going forward, and trailing wheels would make it harder to derail when going backward (which is I think how they work in real life). But that's really tricky to code. So I might just increase the derail threshold with the number of unpowered axles. IDK when I'll get around to this though.
@@satiric_ Alright, thanks
To be honest I think that train suits it better
Engine number 3 on the handy dandy railroad
2-6-0 because S&A 750. I do love my pacifics
Not gonna lie this choo choo looks like something I would draw up if I was 8 years old again. The fact that this exists in a video game some how satisfying, whilst looking aids at the same time.
The explanation for the tractive effort misses the fact that in this mod the bigger your wheels the less you get, and bringing the traction you've got onto the track is only affected by the number of the wheels and the weight pressing down on them, right?
23:28 That music is amazing! What track is that? (No pun intended)
EDIT: its Mail Run from the former Railroads Online Soundtrack
It would have been nice to be able to see what was going on. Realistic night time sucks.
the rods on the larger driving wheels look like they have a lot more movement than on a regular driving wheel of that size, as though they're too far from the center. It could be just me though.
Hey, I know this is an old comment but I'm the guy making the Rearranged S282 mod. Yeah you're right; it's because the wheels are all one part and I'm just scaling up the entire wheel rather than remodeling it from scratch. That's also why the tires are super thick. It could be fixed with some significant modelling work but I've got other features I'd rather work on (and I suck at modelling).
So, I've made it to 163 km/h in the S282 without the mod. How?
Good *lord.* where?
Hey hyce!
Obligatory when are they going to add the large lad comment. Such a cool mod.
Does it work with 0-6-0? Can make changes there too
Would be neat to simulate different helper configurations in this situation.
at 11:22 I am hurting because your loco hand break is on 🤣
Hey hyce there's a new update on railroads online are u and kan going to check it out there's a new map
You need to make a train articulated.
bro, you stole my locomotive🗿
so hyce you prob already know this but RO just dropped decent update with a new loco and passenger coach's but most importantly a big new map with bio domes.looks like the map has a forest,desert,mountain area's with a big lake in the middle of it all and also you can now choose where to put the industries you're self where ever you like. i think you and Kan will enjoy it. but i must admit after seeing the last video's of Century of Steam particularly the whistles video when ever i look at RO all i can see is a better version of Trainz railway sim i still like the game for what it is don't get me wrong but Century of Steam does it better. the whistle echo sold me.can't wait to throw my money at it.
Believe me I have heard
Can someone fill me in on the lore about when "Trying" was added to part of the ES&D
Would love to know as well ^^
ES&D is his version of the D&RG, ES&DT is his version of the D&RGW.
Running the legendary ES&D 000?
What is it with you and leaving brakes on? Pretty soon you'll be trying to run a train with the train brakes applied and somehow destroy them all...lol. Looks like a fun mod!
It's just how the pros do it. Wouldn't want Repair In Place crew or the car shop to get bored.