@@Qardo Attention spans over the years has shortened, even music has suffered in that region with most being very repetitive or even 2 minutes long each song. That's not long at all.
I use a RX580 and I'm totally happy with it! It was one of AMD's best decisions to give it 8GB cuz it still runs every game I ever tried without problems and at least 60fps, often even well over 100 (obviously on 1080p)
Agreed, i was thinking of replacing it last year, but now that AMD has fixed their OpenGL drivers its great again. Only game ive played that had performance issues was Control.
I still have the 8gb 570. Upgrading to the 6800xt this weekend, and I'm beyond excited. Or maybe I should just buy 3 or 4 1030s and run them SLI (joking)
@@Lord3nder 3 or 4? Holy PITA Batman! Nobody should ever DO that. Glad you have some sense and I see one of them is a sense of humor. FWIW I went from 570 4Gb to a 6600 8GB and am just gloriously enjoying 1080p full whatever settings. I am equally certain your new 6800XT will be very much at home as the 580 was. Hopefully the old dear gets to continue playing Fortnite or Minecraft with some youngsters. Old isn't dead yet.
It's important to note that the GT1030 doesn't include an NVENC core, so if you're hoping to use it for transcoding video for say, a plex server, you'll have to go with something higher end instead. (Minimum in Pascal was GTX 1050ti or a Quadro P400 which is tiny)
Or an AMD RX550 if you live in europe. AMD cards sell cheaper than nVidia cards. The 1030 still costs around 100€ here, which is completely nuts. The RX550 for around 70€
Nvidia never really replaced this card, to this day... unless you want to count the Quadro T1000/T600/T400 series. At least those have transcoding and perform better overall than a GT 1030. But cost way too much for what they are. But in the consumer space, there is no direct replacement. The GT1630 doesn't have a low profile, single slot version, so you can't put it in a SFF Optiplex. Which makes me question why it even exists. For that matter, RX 6500, why? Why these anemic, yet full-sized, cards? Why can't y'all do small and powerful? I know, the RTX A2000... but that's a TWO slot, half height model... shrink it and we'll talk. One of these days I'm gonna break bad and build a new rig, and not have to worry about how big the graphics card is, but for right now, I have an Opti with a 1030 and I want something better, but the RX 6400 kind of sucks. Then again, it doesn't actually suck any harder than a 1030, and it's a lot faster, so... maybe I'll just go that route. But still, the NVENC on the Quadro T series is mighty tempting...
@@SeeJayPlayGames There is a GT 1630 low profile from Gigabyte, but it's way overpriced. Even more so in the EU. 170€ for this garbage GPU. Many SFF cases can fit a dual slot GPU. I do have some older SFF boxes from Siemens and IBM/Lenovo (PII to C2D) and they all can fit a dual slot LP GPU. The ThinkCentre did need a bit of work with a saw, because the removable HDD caddy was in the way. Since i use 2.5" SSD's, i did saw a hole into the HDD caddy to fit a GTX750ti GPU. The SSD still fits in the Caddy
This really brings me back to my childhood, looking at the absolute lowest cost cards because my parents weren't going to spend "extra" unless I gave them a good reason.
Same but my parents COULDN'T spend anything. They were poor. I don't blame them tho, they care about me and have worked hard to make enough money for us to survive, but they probably shouldn't have raised a kid.
Good to hear the RX-580 compares favorably in this sort of context. I got great use out of it for several years and then put it into a spares build for my nephew 2 years ago. He's almost 10, already thinks his computer is a beast, but I'm about to upgrade him with an R7 2700x + 5700XT build.
The RX-580 is crazy good for the value. When I was looking into a GPU for my server before I ended up retiring my 1080 to it (upgraded main build to a 3060ti), I was amazed at how capable that card was for the price. It's basically AMD's equivalent of the 1080, nearly beating it, and it's under half the price.
Outside of the NA market this is not the case. I’ve seen people trying to get 500 usd for old 1080’s because of lack of availability of new cards. The 1030 goes for around 150 after tax here brand new.
That particular RX580 is... very sus. According to the seller's specs it got less shaders and a lower clockspeed than a RX 580 should have, which makes it the "RX 580, Chinese-market prebuilt PC special edition", which actually makes it closer to a RX570 than a standard RX580. The AIB selling it has also put out some mobile-to-desktop conversion cards that only work with their own special hacked drivers, photoshopped a competitor's press materials and passed their new cooler design off as their own, and there's allegations they're putting old mining chips onto new boards and selling as "new". The company only recently appeared in North America, and actual owner reviews are scarce and with higher DoA complaints than other brands. "New 580 for $90!" should have carried some asterisks.
I've seen more than enough bad boards and outright scams from random Chinese companies that I'd rather not support anything. The only half-decent products are the Machinist X79s, but (unless you have an i7) you can get a Supermicro X9 for around the same price. There's also the Erying boards, but you need to get the large VRM heatsinks and use a downdraft cooler for them to work alright.
I put one of those in my old computer in 2019 to be able to watch 4K videos. It made the difference between me being able to watch my own drone videos, and not being able to watch them. (I don't play computer games, just video editing and watching) I've since upgraded to a better computer, but that old card is still in use as a secondary computer to feed my downstairs TV, and still works after 4 years of daily use.
@@Knaeckebrotsaegetbf they said "4 years of daily use" perhaps it wasn't until the last 4 years of the total 6 that they have been using it every single day and the 1st 2 years it was only being used when needed to edit videos.
Bought a Rx580 right before the pandemic for about $150 and it’s been absolute beast for the past 3 years. I’ll upgrade soon but I couldn’t have been happier with it. Highly recommend for those on a budget
Same ! Like exactly the same, I got mine for $100 out of a mining rig on eBay right before the pandemic.ithandles 1080 any game tittle 60 frames +, I couldn’t be happier with it! I’m primarily a musican which is expensive enough so my gaming budget suffers 😂
Yeah, I missed that window because by November 2020, the best deal I could find on one was $220 and it hurt to pay that much more. Then I didn't feel so bad, because if I had waited longer to build a PC for my wife, she would've missed on tons of gaming and they were over $500 by Jan or Feb of 2021.
I bought it when it was released for 100 wanted a bit mine for fun but broke the bios and had then always so much to do so never used it. Then I repaired it 2-3 years ago mined 100 bucks or sth on it and sold it for 400 on the peak of crypto hype.
I added this card as an upgrade when Dell assembled my i7 desktop. I mostly use the PC as a media center for streaming movies and TV and don't play games at all. I currently have a 55inch 1080p display connected and it works like a charm playing HD and UHD movies. It should be able to power a 4K monitor as well. There are many consumers who just want a better video card and don't want to upgrade the power supply. That is the primary niche for this card. It's too bad that you really can't get any new cards with such low power consumption. That's why it's still so popular all these years later.
@@Leo9ine I just upgraded to a 4K TV last month. I settled on the FHD+ setting on the video card as it is the most stable. I was having some issues with the 4K output setting. The TV does a great job of upscaling to 4K though. Windows is not a very good platform for media playback. I have zero problems using a streaming device with a basic ARM chip in it, but if I try to play content on the PC with DTS audio..it is terrible if you pause or try to skip forward, it freezes up for a few seconds before resuming playback. DTS must not be fully supported, but I'm not sure if Microsoft or Intel are at fault there. A 2 year old i7 Dell desktop with 16GB of RAM should be able to do this stuff without breaking a sweat.
@@pauljoseph2400 Hi, a few months back you posted info you had GT 1030. Do you still use if after upgrading to 4K TV? I'm thinking about upgrading my HTPC with this card as a cheap option with HEVC (H.265) and 4K support. BTW, my HTPC is Windows based and I don't have major issues with playback. Gaps in audio after pausing and rewinding have nothing to do with the Windows itself or (in my case) Kodi as a player. It's casued by AVR which is decoding audio streams and if you poke with "passthrough" options in (again in my case) Kodi or AVR you should be able to get rid of that side efect.
Even if this isn't meant for me directly since I usually use mid-tier cards, this was still so much more interesting than seeing another video on a x090 or x080 or their ti variants. We all know highest tier cards will perform better, but lower tier cards are more interesting because those can vary by so much and are the main components used to game.
Because they actually come with SOME tech tips in the video. Anyone who has watched at least 3 mid-high end card videos could write a script for one of those videos.
@@bizklaustdeity3115 yup they sure can, the 6400 is the best possible card for the older design ones (such as the haswell-based models) though due to unfortunate PCI-E x16 slot placement
I got a 1030 a few years ago for a light gaming PC in my van. I had money for a better card but the small size and low power draw pushed me to the 1030. I've been very happy with it.
I found it interesting that you mention the absurdly better value a RX580 would offer for the same cost, but I would've wished to see some demonstrations of just how much the RX580 beats the GT1030 into a pulp, especially in the more modern titles. It would've really helped drive home the point I think.
im pretty sure the rx 580 is similar or better to a gtx 1650 or gtx 1060 6gb. the gt 1030 is kinda joke-y compared to the rx 580, because the rx 580 is just much better.
@@friedtoaster7675 Yep, that's what I'm thinking too, but that would make the RX580 an absolutely phenomenal value compared to those two as well, and I would've liked to at least seen it considered for this. This way it was just a throw-away line with nothing to back it up in the video, and I think that card deserves more for the value it offers.
The main reason to get the 1030 is because the RX580 wouldn't work in a lot of old Dell PC's (I think it had something to do with the BIOS and motherboard) and you would have to set it to legacy to use a lot of cards but the GT1030 just dropped right in and worked without having to mess with it. As a matter of fact I think the RX580 (and most cards) was too big to fit as well. It had to be low profile to fit in the Dell case. This is if you wanted to have a card instead of using integrated graphics so it actually was a significant upgrade to that particular setup. Alot of people didn't know that a 1050-ti would also work and drop right in and work too if you can fit it in the case, but the 1030 and the 1050 were pretty much your only options. I think a 1060 might have worked but I think you had to set your system to legacy to use it or it was not possible to use it in the system. Not a good bang for your buck in a sense, but it was your only option and not bad depending on your needs because since your moving from integrated to a gpu it will give you a good boost in performance without having to buy a whole new system. Bottom line it is a "specialty" card meant for a specific purpose.. Thats why it is overpriced because even nvidia probably doesn't really want to make it anymore. It just fits a niche so people gotta pay a little extra for it if they need it.
It's not the same cost. The RX 580 costs qute a bit more. I can get a 1030 for about $70 Canadian new. The cheapest chinese non-branded Rx 580 is about $140 Canadian. Double the price new.
rx 580 is so criminally underated in the entry-tier market. I've seen so many posts about the 1070/6600/1060 but barely anyone talks about the 8gb vram card that still plays games at ultra settings @1080p at 60fps (all for $100USD!) This is coming from someone who ran a rx570 4gb and was able to confortably play Apex Legends, COD Warzone 1 & 2, NieR Automata, etc.
I managed to get the rx 590 February of 2020 for 200$ and I'm still using it and it handles pretty much every game on Max settings or almost max for 1080 60fps. Excluding cyberpunk and a few niche games
Ive been running a 8gb rx580 for several years. It still does good on most ganes at 1080p. I do want a newer card for higher fps but this one has been solid for years
Agreed, I bought one ( for about 200 dollars) quite some time before the GPU shortage and sold it for over 500 Dollars during the hight of the shortage (I don't feel bad because a miner bought it, he was bidding on all GPUs at the same time so I'm certain he used them for mining)
I ran the rx 470 for 2 years and it was great. Managed to sell it for 65 and buy vega 64 which although is a space heater can playing anything I want as high as I want (1080p monitor)
I'm currently running my rx480 8gb which is basically the same as the rx580 and to this day, every game i tried runs in 1080p with 60 fps. Okay, to be fair, the "ultra" setting is not meant for my setup and there might be some newer, more demanding games i didn't try yet. But for someone who doesn't always need to play the newest skit on ultra 4k 144 fps, a rx480 8gb is still fine even in 2023
I have a sapphire radeon 590x nitro+ something something (its got way too long of a name) that was my stepdads and while it's a six year old card it can almost run monster hunter world with the graphics patch and even rtx cards struggle with mhw graphics patch
The GT 1030 was massively popular in the media centre PC and Plex server worlds as a way to cheaply retrofit an old machine with HD hardware decoding functionality. Could be where the searches are coming from although it's pretty redundant for new builds as most modern CPUs come with all the onboard grunt you need for those tasks. [edit: removed reference to transcode function as it was lacking on 1030]
Transcoding? definitely not. The 1030 is the only card that intentionally (middle finger from nvidia) lacks NVENC. most people used a Quadro P400/P600/P620 or something instead as that one isn't crippled and does have NVENC
@@Knaeckebrotsaege Sorry yes you are right it lacked the encode capabilities but it did support PureVideo so was still popular in this use case for adding HD playback to older devices.
When the GT 1030 came out at that time, there was nothing comparable, so it was small and above all cheap. Even then nothing for gamers but just ideal for special applications such as HTPC or just as I used it to upgrade my old mini PC that had no GPU. Since the 1030, the office machine was even HD capable again and UA-cam or similar no longer jerked. Definitely the opposite of e-waste if you used it consciously.
@@Shadow27374 Effectively the 1030 was just a (at the time long since overdue) incremental update to the 750(Ti). It performed about the same but used less power, so low-profile cards were more common. But nvidia intentionally crippled it by removing NVENC and then further shot themselves in the foot with the slow as molasses DDR4 version. At this point the only reason for it to still exist is that there's no replacement yet (basically the same situation the 750(Ti) was in before the 1030 came out). It did have its use cases that tech youtubers surrounding themselves 24/7 with hardware average joes can only dream of fail to even consider, but at this point it really needs a replacement, which I kinda doubt we'll get because the whole HTPC market has all but vanished by now and there isn't much money to be made from the lowest-end anyway...
The 1030 had some reason behind it, when it was released. I bought one of these about 4 years ago, for a small factor PC that is hooked up to my TV. At that point in time, and that scenario in mind the 1030 was the best possible choice. I got myself a passively cooled one, so it is completely quiet, it comes with low power consumption and an HDMI 2.0 port. It supports all modern video codecs (at least when it came out, but is still fine, as I haven't encountered AV1 in the wild yet) and it was much cheaper as a NVIDIA shield.
If you already had a pre-built and needed to add something, than yeah it was potentially your only option. But if you were building a small form factor pc, it was not a great option at all as it added cost for no benefit considering ryzen apus came out in 2018 with similar performance so you could buy one of those and get a cpu with on board graphics comparable to the 1030 for the same price or cheaper than a 1030.
@@GhostAcez Most early Ryzen CPUs didn't include integrated graphics. The "g" variants usually didn't appear on the market for almost a year after the non "g" versions were released, and usually got overshadowed by a next gen Ryzen release just a month or two later. I honestly feel that something similar to the GT1030 should have been made by AMD to fill the "I just need graphics and a modern interface" need. I ended up build a lot of Intel PCs for people during this time because adding a graphics card to a home office pc always broke the budget.
I used it because I had an old Dell PC with no GPU and it was one of the only cards available for use in it. I'm pretty sure it was basically made for that. At the time it allowed me to play CS:GO and a couple other games which is the only reason that I wanted it. I eventually got the money and put in a 1050-ti though so I could play RDR2. I actually still have the 1030 in a box somewhere. It was useful for what I needed because that and a memory upgrade pretty much tripled my FPS at the time.
I mean in a lot of ways it makes even less sense because why in the hell would you buy a brand new entry level card for an HTPC or some kind of similar use from a Best Buy when it is clearly going to cost more and deliver inferior quality. At that point I'd just be using a GT 710 or something as basic display adapter. OR, I'd just get a used lower end card. I just think it's funny how much worse performing the 1030 is but costs more than an RX 550. I can't remember if the 550 was meant to be a 1050 or 1030 competitor though in fairness, partly because the performance, but it's like this with everything, it might make some sense getting the higher end nVIdia flagship but their budget/entry level stuff is just such complete garbage. I think part of the problem is, now nVidia's midrange is quite literally budget level garbage but while costing the same as their flagships, making everything beneath a 80ti solidified as having its bad reputation. Like there is no reason to have considered anything beneath a 780ti a few years ago, and right now it makes much more sense to either get a 980ti or a 580, since the 580 while cheaper and having more VRAM is worse performing. I don't know, I guess I am just biased partly, I still see flagship as being higher performant and quality enough it's not a bad product on its own, just bad pricing, as opposed to their lower end stuff which IS a bad product objectively speaking.
There is another thing you've should mentioned, Linus. 1030 have more modern codec support, allowing UA-cam 1080 playback on older hardware w/o CPU gasping for breath at 100% trying to decode video stream. So if you having old gen 2/3/4 intel CPU or AMD FX/Athlon II machine and don't have money/don't plan upgrade CPU/MOBO/RAM combo it's worth looking for, esp. for 50-60 bucks, AND you don't have to upgrade your old PSU.
That's right. The lack of VP9 codec support on RX 580 is hurting. An older i5 is screaming for a mercy under a 4k yt video. While this lil boyo the 1030 easily handles it.
Great video! Also I should mention, the rx 580 listed in the description is a 2048sp, basically delivering 570 performance while being overclocked as you mentioned in the video.
@@rolux4853 Pretty affordable is relative. The card was 100 new, 50 used... For some people 50 is a stretch, granted... not for "let them have cake"-Linus, but for some people it is a LOT of money... Instantly comparing to cards that are 150 isn't a viable reply... but rather - it's the reply of that one annoying, unhelpful, toxic jerk that always exist in every forum... on UA-cam - it's apparently Linus. The ONLY thing Linus needed to do - was to say "it's not a great card... but if it's all you can afford, here is what performance you can expect playing games X, Y, Z... ...instead Linus goes and tells struggling people: - "just buy a Tesla". I'm putting this channel on "don't ever recommend" after this atrociously nauseating bull excrement. _Sorry if I come off as hostile... it's not directed towards you - but at jerks that think they can piss on their audience just because they're famous._
Really cool to see you guys compare the 1030 to a new 1050 Ti that costs $150. That's what I paid for my 1050 Ti... 5 years ago. Can't wait to spend $400-$500 for the next x060 tier card which was $230 when I last upgraded.
Yeah, it's a joke and honestly weird that old GPUs like that are *still* so expensive... Does kinda make me wish I could afford to drop the $100 for the RX580 to replace the 1050ti in my Ryzen desktop... EDIT: Nevermind, those $100 examples seem to be weird no-name brand cards of questionable origin.
@@marcindager7567 You *sold* isn't the same as I can easily buy... Shame, though, I'd have gladly paid that a couple of months ago. Now, money's a little less good, sadly.
@@marcindager7567 8GB RX580s are easily going for less than $100 where I live, typically around the $80 range. I just picked up a 1080ti for $175 and a 2080S for $280 last week, so my friends would have easy upgrades when they're ready for them. To date, I've gotten: - 3080 Vision 10gb for $620 (6 months ago) - 3070 FTW3 for $325 - 3070 XC3 for $370 - 2080S for $280 - 1080ti for $175 - 1080 for $150 They're out there, you just have to look.
It does suck and it shouldn't be this way, but I feel we should focus so much more of our anger on things like food/houses/cars/etc. These are all NESSESSITIES and take up way more of your income than upgrading a $800 PC every 5 years ever will. Inflation is a bitch and isn't going away, but no reason it can't slow for necessities.
I was trying to decide between the Rx550 and GT1030 some years ago, but then realized that the RX560 was way faster and not much more expensive so I went for that It was like 25% more expensive, but literally double the performance
I went from the 1030 to the 1050TI LP, which was twice as good. double the cost, double the performance... But I was happy with it. Now rock a 2060. At the time I had no idea about the RX560.
@@birdmanballs69 even that seems over priced compared to a new RX 580 for $90, it's less than twice the price and double the VRAM is starting to become a very worthwhile feature. It also sounded like used cards were going for about that too post mining bust.
@@kz.irudimen thats not true across the board it depends entirely on your use case. For 40-50 bucks you got a failry powerful tiny card for the tpd. Its fucked that it doesn't have nvec but it still made for an excellent little card to play 4k tv on a mini htpc. They where also total powerhouses for bulding a mame station. Even more so if you wanted to use a crt.
The biggest advantage of a 1030 is that for a long time it was the fastest dedicated card you could fit into a lot of SFF PCs. So it was a popular upgrade for, e.g., off-lease Lenovo ThinkCentre PCs.
Yeah I was again disappointed that Linus didn't really talk about that at all besides a small mention at the start of the video. For most people the entire point of a 1030 is that it was the only decent card that fits in an SFF office tower.
This was a great video. I know that these cards being garbage is just accepted as true for many of us, but the in depth explanation as to why they are garbage is extremely useful.
Agreed. It's easy to sound like a snob when telling someone that the GT1030 is a terrible value even at the low price. Being able to explain why it's a terrible option is extremely helpful.
The RX 580 is such a good card. My sister bought Hogwarts Legacy not realizing her laptop had no chance of running it. She got a rx 580 8gb for $75, I gave her an old HP 420 workstation, and she's running at medium settings, 60fps locked at 1080p. Cheap xbox controller + steam big picture means she's gaming happy on her TV.
This was my first ever gpu upgrade, threw it into a hp Compaq and it was insane to me the difference. Being able to play games at more than 30fps on lowest settings, and I use it in my family pc for emulation
I ran my RX 580 8GB since it's launch up until January of this year when I upgraded to 3070ti. Would recommend it if your budget is tight, such a great card.
I was in a similar boat. I upgraded to a 4090 this year but would have kept my 580 longer if it had not died when it did. It is still a great card to use for most games and I recommend them to anyone who wants to play games for cheap.
Should've compared it to the iGPU in the 3200G. A few years ago I tried to go ultra-budget and build the cheapest PC that was capable of running Apex. Going 3200G alone was cheaper than going (other CPU + GT 1030) and it had the same graphical performance. I think that would be a worthwhile video.
@@potatorigs2155 I accep that i dont play newst games , but to be honest with time I have avelible to play + games that run on my pc that i did not played I still have loot of games to play , this year I played Mad Max , Dishonored & GTAV another run , and I still have NWN2 , Oblivion , PoE , Tyranny , Batman + Batman Arkham Asylum and Stardew Valley with new update , so yeah my PC works for me now , I plan to do upgrate when new DLC to CP2077 will came out ... wait few months that will be patched , and that I will probabbly buy 4050 or 4060 depend what will be more woth it price/power . o7
Thanks for reviewing my favorite graphics card! Here's an important thing that you didn't mention: this is nVidia's only 10 series card that is available passively cooled. I don't know how many other passively cooled cards there are that get anywhere close to this model. So if you're trying to build a DAW or NLE system for a studio where you want your system to be as quiet as possible, it's a GREAT choice (the GDDR5 version, anyway). Also if you're putting together a media center PC. I know that this channel is more about maximizing your money's worth on hardware that can perform well, with gaming as the measure of performing well, but there are other possible reasons to squeeze out more performance for your money. Also, I've played dozens of games on mine, and if you don't (and many people don't, believe it or not) care about playing the latest AAA shooter or racing games, it's perfectly fine. I play indie titles that are a few years old like Obduction, Portal, Lightmatter, Outer Wilds, Journey, Event01, The Turing Test, The Talos Principle, Pneuma, Quern, etc. and they all look great and play smoothly at the highest settings. So yes, for heaven's sake, if you're trying to GAME, as in maximum high speed motion, detail, and FPS, and you're on a budget, save for another month and get something with more horsepower. You'll be much more satisfied. But if you're doing music or video, get one of these and use the money you save to get a better mic or camera gear. And enjoy the relative silence that comes with lower heat and power consumption. And you can still play some really great titles in your downtime.
Glad you mentioned the DAW usage of passive cooling. Not sure how much of a difference it makes if you're using an external power filter though, better connection support for multiple monitors is something I find essential while working with plugins, sample folders, etc.
@@Catbattle Good point, it supports only 2 monitors (mine has DisplayPort and HDMI). It's still not a bad solution for certain uses. Got a SFF system with a weaker power supply that you don't want to spend money to upgrade, the GT 1030 is a decent choice with its low power requirements. Building a HTPC and don't want to worry about the GPU fan getting noisy? Good choice. I suspect that it was targeted at people buying Dells who needed more graphics horsepower for their workstations. Me, I wanted to experiment to find out how quiet I could get my PC
This is still incredibly specific, and the video was just to highlight that 99% of users who bought it for gaming were misinformed And would have been better off with almost anything else. But yes, in these specfic use cases it could be fine, I mean, besides the fact you can get better GPU's that are passive... Seen a 1050 passive several times
I think its important to remember 2 things about these GPUs. 1. In some countries, alternatives may not be even within a resonable price or even available at all. 2. People who are not into building their own pcs no doubt see an abundance of these "cheap fortnight gaming pc" ads on facebook or ebay with this GPU or the dreaded GT 710 in them and what to know exactly what they are buying.
There is no reason when rx lineup exist. From rx470 to rx580. Post mining cards could be found for less than 100$. Heck, i sold my rx588 for 75$. Bought rx6600xt for less than 200$ used with reshipping from states (asrock one that weighs 1kg with a box, in this situation it were a feature and it don't overheats anyway. I tried to OC but silicon is just not that good).
Yeah. I would add that electricity is very expensive for people in certain countries. A 30 W GPU uses less power. So there is less heat for the power-hungry air conditioning to remove in hot climates. Bonus: No need to change the power supply.
@@PotatMasterRace Yes, I agree, but "noobs" won't know that stuff. That's the OP point of view, you need to spread that information for the common folk.
i regret not selling mine at the peak of the crypto, i was going to do it, but with the cost of gpus at that time it would had mean to be without gpu until who knows when. now i have it forgotten in a box,
The RX 580 was a solid recommendation as an alternative solution for getting the best bang for the buck. While it will likely require a PSU and/or mobo upgrade if you're running an older pre-built, it offers similar performance to the 5500 XT and (sadly) 6500 XT as well as GTX 1060. And along with the advantage of 8gb of VRAM (on select models as there are 4gb variants of the 580), it still holds up pretty well even at 6 years old now (or 7 if you count that it's basically a "refined" RX 480). It was the card that got me thru the pandemic and subsequent scalper era until I was finally able to get a 3060ti for $340 last summer.
Or 8 years old as the 480 is more or less a 390. Which is more or less a 290/X, so closer to 10 years at this point. It is incredible how well these cards aged, especially when paired with something like a 4790k.
4 GB versions of the RX 580? Are you sure that you're not mixing it up with the 480? Because when I bought my 480 I specifically picked the 8 GB version, but one of the advantages of the 580 over the 480 was 8 GB by default as well as higher clock speeds.
@@toothless2773o, the 480 and 390 are different beasts. Their performance is similar, but their architectures are totally different. The R9 290X and R9 390X are basically the same GPU with just minor changes, likewise the RX 580 is basically just a RX 480 with a minor upgrade to the production process, clock speed etc and a bit more VRAM by default. But the 390X and 480 would perform differently in games. For one, Polaris handled tesselation better then Hawaii, meaning that it's punished less by Nvidias gameworks shenanigans. It has a better video encoder and decoder etc. The generations are basically 280X->290X->285->480->Vega in terms of architectures (you can pick different GPUs for each of these architectures, but this are the actual hardware architecture generations from what I remember) I've tried to pick cards that's all *roughly* the same performance. Obviously the 290X and 480 are more powerful then the 280X and 285... GCN started with the HD 7xxx series, and Vega was the last GCN architecture.
@@Luredreier I may have worded that badly, I was only talking about performance not architecture :) It‘s true that the Polaris GPUs have a few games where they clearly perform better than the 390 etc, but in most games even a 290X is shockingly close to a 580.
I would like to see more budget focused videos, say taking a used dell business pc and making a budget gamer out of it. I think alot of your audience could benefit from this.
@@garystinten9339 surprised as in the amount of people running low end hardware. LTT lives in a bubble where (nearly) everyone they interact with runs high end hardware. In reality, a lot of people are scraping by on the lowest-end hardware that's out there. Or really really old hardware. So I think that there's a real audience out there that would find these low end hardware reviews helpful. And I think it's awesome that LTT is giving recommendations on the best alternatives for a given price range.
The gt 1030 will always be sentimental to me for being part of the office tower case scraped together first pc that my friends all pitched in on for my 13th birthday (stock motherboard/power supply and a 6th Gen Intel i5!). It was definitely a massive upgrade from the low end asus laptop I was trying to use before. This review just makes me thankful that I've found this channel and have learned enough to know objectively that cards like this are a bad option. It ran Minecraft, terraria, CSGO, destiny, and rainbow 6 well enough for me at the time though, which I guess is a lesson in low expectations making a happier person 🤷
The 1030 and other low-end cards aren't bad options unless you're using them for something they're not intended for. They're not meant for gaming. They're meant to play movies and youtube videos.
I saved an old pc where the motherboard display connector was snapped off with an ebay one of these. Sometimes you just need "a gpu" and it doesn't matter.
That’s exactly why I have one. My current gaming pc was originally built as a high end pc for office use only, it did not need any gpu power beyond the onboard intel graphics on the i7 8700K in it, but it did need more display connections as it was going to have like 5 monitors connected to it. I think the pc spent like two weeks at that config before it was gifted to me, and I promptly swapped out the gpu for my (at that time) RX470 from my own gaming rig, before upgrading to a 2080, and now the same rig has a 3080Ti and is pending a new CPU upgrade. I still have the GT 1030 sat in a box at home, this video got me thinking about the capability of it as I could potentially use it for hardware encoding for Plex if it has the function to, though I’m not sure if it will be better than Intels Quicksync baked into the i5 6600K in my server. I’m definitely going to have a look into it though, might be more use than the RX 470 currently sat in my server which does literally nothing.
Wow the price actually went up for this card. I bought one years ago for 60$ from China, at the time the price locally was about 80$. Now even here it is over 100$. Looking at the used market I might be able to resell my 1030 for a small dime of a profit. At its time with its lower price, the 1030 was a great card for SFF options and had a long field day when competing AMD card (RX 6400) took 4.5 years to finally take its spot albeit slightly higher price.
You know what, I think almost all those 1030 sales are just server operators looking for a super slim display-out card to stick into their servers and forget about for the rest of time.
I paid $110 for brand new launch week 1050 Ti cards. That was on a light sale but, I guess it was the last time discrete GPUs would ever have a budget category.
@@arnox4554 Or pixel pushers for handing down old PCs to relatives. My gran doesn't need a 4090 to play Solitaire, CPUs live nearly forever, and an old mobo might still be rocking after 10+ years. If you don't happen to have iGPU or want something more in between so that certain desktop tasks like web browsing don't feel laggy... These extreme low-end cards were the answer. Until they jacked up prices to $100+, at which point it becomes pretty pointless.
I nearly got one of these when speccing my first PC. An acquaintance of mine saved me and told me to drop some budget elsewhere to get a 1050 instead. What a good dude. Probably would have been better off with the 550 ti I already had lmao
A friend wanted me to build him a gaming PC at the height of the shortage. I wrote down what he should buy. He searched locally but couldn't find a gpu. A salesman sold him a 1030. My buddy was all proud until I told him it's basically a media card and not a gaming card. I made him take it back and ordered him a 1660 Super from Newegg. It cost a lot more but he's a really happy PC gamer now. That was the last thing I ever purchased from Newegg. About a month later they started ripping people off with their bundles and the exploding gigabyte psu.
As someone who's (officially, on paper) unemployed and lives in a place where tech is expensive, I got a lot of mileage from the (GDDR5) 1030 in the past 2.5 years. Got it for pretty cheap compared to pretty much any non-entry level GPUs. I've been scammed on 'used' hardware before so I don't shop for those unless I'm desperate. I upgraded just the other day to another entry level one (a 4GB GDDR6 GTX 1630) and I'm having a blast with being able to play a bunch of stuff on much higher settings than before. There's definitely a use-case\market for these.
I used to have a GT 1030. It's really bad compared to my new 6650 xt, but it was the only card that fit in my Dell Optiplex (it was my first pc, and I was pretty young so I couldn't afford a good one).
Hey it's fine, I put all my money on every other things. Mind you a normal working class peasants. That I can only afford used 570 😂 but goddamn it works on modern title.
imagine being me, having bought an rtx 3060 and being the happiest person alive for the first five months... and then a power outage or something else took that happiness with it, and i'm stuck with my ancient gt 1030 again
They should have include in the review, the lack of NVENC. I was looking for a cheap card for transcoding / streaming with NVENC, and I noticed that this card don't support it. Happy that I avoided that.
I had the choice between a Radeon 580 and this for use with OBS encoding. Everyone was saying that the NVENC chip produces much better output that the 580. None of the reviews I read on the 1030 mentioned the lack of NVENC. The 580 encoder would have been better than the nothing of the 1030, I currently using a 480 in my personal computer and it seems to work fine for encoding for me. I made the mistake of buying the ewaste.
@@kris13861 well, the writer was Plouffe, Linus just read the teleprompter. And (at least in my case) I was looking for a cheap card around 3 years ago, so at this point, I already solved the problem (at that time, I bought an old GT710 (or was 730?) Kepler that supported NVENC.)
A friend of mine upgraded to an rtx 3060 and he gave me his gt1030 for free, so I used it until I upgraded to an a750, which can run basically anything even if it isn't as powerful as other options. Now his gt1030 is in another gaming pc of another of our friends so we are basically passing it down to whoever needs it before upgrading ahah
This is honestly a fantastic video premise. I don't know that there's really anyone out there covering some of the older cards in the modern day to see how they stack up.
yeah, i’d like to see them cover the RX 580 8GB and 56/5700XT as well. very good value on the used market right now and are still playing new games fairly well at 1080p. the RX 580 can be found for under $100 and still has 8GB of VRAM! that’s insane value considering NVIDIA might only put 6GB of VRAM on the RTX 4050 despite that costing probably 3x as much. the RX 580, 5600XT, 5700XT, 6600, 6650XT, and 6700XT are a beacon of light in a GPU market whose future looks more depressing with each passing month.
@@gozutheDJ i was talking about LTT in particular, not some random channel. i want to hear linus talk about those GPUs, even if it’s a shorter video. the discussion in the comments would be much more diverse too since there would be much more people watching that video than a channel that has 1/1000th of the subscribers. yeah, you could look up benchmarks for those GPUs and those videos do serve a purpose, but that’s not my point. my point is that i want to hear linus talk about them so that these GPUs get more exposure. it would be nice to hear positive things about the GPU market every once in a while since most of the news regarding new GPUs have been bad news. ask yourself this: should larger channels be discouraged from uploading content about a certain topic because smaller channels have already covered it? EDIT: obviously i don’t know of this for sure but i think it’s logical to believe that this would be a “content gap” for LTT as well like this video about the GT 1030 was. at least the GPUs i mentioned are still relevant and not obsolete at this point.
I spec these in small form factor emulation boxes I build for people. They are absolutely perfect for that use case, and allow people to hook up an older less powerful system to their 75 inch 4k oled monster and play retro games. If you keep them within their limits they are great.
I am one of those people who plays older games, and for years played with 20-40 fps. When I needed a new GPU I wanted a cheap card, with low power consumption, max 6pin connector, and something new not 2nd hand. I bought a 6500XT. Stayed well clear from the 1030 Glad you still did a review. There are plenty of people like me who just do not want a top spec machine.
This video is kinda nostalgic for me. My first proper gpu was actually a 2gb GT1030. Upgraded to a RX580 for 80usd back in 2020. Loved it, and love this channel 🙌🏼
Mine was a 1030 too. After 4 years of care i sold the whole machine, but ohh man. There are some really good looking 1030 s out there, and without any power cable you can make a really great looking pc. Not to mention that many office computers comes with a 300w non standard psu at best. Yeah, 1030 is basically e-waste if you want a machine for gaming, but it can turn literally any office machine into a usable and great pc for indie and old games, and it wouldn't work without that 30w, nor without a 2gb of vram, or the ddr5.
@@NoorSkullz Around 30 years ago they called it computer accelerator. The main function were to take the load of processing the interface offf from the cpu, so the gui elements for example doesn't take up processor time. In the case of the 1030... maybe we should stick with the graphics accelerator at that case.
We need more re-reviews of old cards and how they compare now. Prices have changed for new and old ones, so anyone wanting to build a true budget gaming PC can see truly what the performance is and how it compares to other old cards. I have been using a 2060 super for about 4 years now and it can go ultra 1080p with no problem, and 1440p 100hz on very high/ultra depending on the game.
Driver updates can also have quite an impact. Old cards had all the optimization already done, so they might perform better than at launch. Plus they at least haven't gotten worse, but how well they do with newer titles is a different question.
@@HappyBeezerStudios yes ofc. But most budget pcs i see go for 300-400 usd cards when you van get 1080p at max setting for less depending on the game and today budget pcs are about 800-1000 usd. Which some years ago was not that high. Its just to see the real diffeences between old cards to cards from 2 to 4 years ago.
I have this 2gb ddr5 one since 2019, and to this day I can still play everything that interests me... latest Minecraft 1.20.1 with light shaders runs perfectly, old gen Fifa 22, HOI4, Dead by Daylight and GTA V are all still smooth 60fps on 1080p low settings for me. If you are on a tight budget, why not get a used one for $50.
One thing you overlooked, is passive cooling on many sku's. That along with power target and size is why i bought one for an old prebuilt that I turned into a relatively decent htpc at the time for £60 outlay.
For an HTPC that doesn't play video games, you could just use any CPU that has inboard graphics at this point and you could do that for years now. Also if you somehow needed the performance of a 1030, again on board graphics on any gen Ryzen APU will give you that.
@Adam F Just get an AMD APU. They literally perform about the same and won't add the heat of having a dedicated gpu so your PC should be even quieter.
Glad to see the humble GT 1030 get some attention. My use case is very niche, but I've had 2 of these (plus a 1080Ti) in my game dev workstation for almost 5 years now. I run multiple virtual machines simultaneously using UNRAID, and these cards work flawlessly and are completely stable with GPU passthrough. They allow me to use Splashtop with GPU acceleration to access the VMs for one, and the other use is that the 2GB memory is a close analogue to the Nintendo Switch. If the game I'm porting (indie, not AAA) performs ok in the desktop development engine with one of these, it's probably 80% of the way to working fine on Nintendo hardware. The fact they are single slot is also the other must have, I have other PCIe cards I need to make use of, so need all the space. Lastly, all the single slot AMD cards I've tried, although more powerful, are either unstable or plain unusable with UNRAID GPU passthrough, so I will be keeping my GT 1030s for a while yet.
^^^^^ THIS ^^^^^ It's heartening to see a responsible game developer taking time to make sure their code isn't over-engineered and is suitable for use on as may systems as possible. I am starting to think that Linus makes videos for his sponsors, himself and his friends to watch.
I had to buy this card for my HP Microserver Gen8, it was the best low profile card at that time, before they nerfed it... RIP to everyone who bought it after...
I have a passive low profile 1030 (pretty sure its ddr4) in my system, but for weird reasons, I needed more display port and hdmi outs and didn't want to block airflow to my main gpu. It's been kinda perfect as their aren't rly any other passive LP cards these days
To be fair, when I bought mine, it was as an upgrade to a passively cooled GT650, and it really added a new lease of life to my aging I3 3220. I also didn't have a power supply with a spare 8pin connector, so I was pretty limited in what I could get. Cards like the RX6400 were not available at the time. I did do a limited upgrade on GPU when I build my new and current rig to a GTX1050ti, but I have now finally gotten a big boy card with my RX5700, and I love it! :-P
I love that on the steam stats you showed the 750ti was right above the 1030. Like, the 750ti (especially if you can get the 4gig version) is just objectivly better in every way besides power consumption I'm totally not saying that because it's the card i'vebeen using since 2014 lol
The 750Ti was famous as the first Nvidia card to outperform AMD for compute performance / Watt. If AMD would have gone bankrupt during the dark years, we would remember the 750 Ti as the nail in the coffin.
I feel like the most obvious use case for this card is always missed. For people with a SFF case and zero additional power connectors, (like with an old Dell/HP office PC) options for graphics cards are extremely limited and the information is hard to track down. For the record, the best option currently available is the Nvidia RTX A2000 - SFF compatible, 12GB of GDDR6, NVENC, Ampere architecture, and draws 70w directly from the PCIE slot with no additional power connectors required. It is a dual-slot card though, as opposed to the 1030's single-slot, so make sure you have room.
In that use case, an RX 6400 is still a massively better option, as it outperforms the 1030 in literally every possible way, and typically by an order of 3 to 4 times.
Exactly, I've had to build quite a few SFF HP EliteDesks that only have room for a single slot, no extra power cables from the 250 watt power supply, and the onboard video is old blue vga. The user just wants something to be able to check email, type docs, stream UA-cam at 1080P. That fits what a lot of people need and unfortunately there's not really any cheap cards from any manufacturers that do that and connect to a newer monitor with DisplayPort, HDMI or possibly DVI. Ergo, a lot of people will just throw their desktops away and in buy a Chromebook, Surface, tablet instead which just creates E-Waste when they're essentially doing the same thing. They don't even care about portability of the latter. I've had a couple users that just need a cheap video card to have dual display, for guess what, typing spreadsheets and typing documents etc, which a lot of motherboards with Onboard video don't have dual display. These are the two reasons why inexpensive video cards are really used, not for gaming.
The GTX 1650 G6 is, by far, the best choice for SFF systems. It's cheap and fits in virtually all of them, and easily runs with a 250W PSU. No power connector either. For those few SFF systems with completely stupid designs (Optiplex 3020 *cough*) that only allow a single width card, the 1050 TI is the champ. The RX6400XT just sucks on older systems. It's 4X wide PCIE4 connector is already bad, and when it is bottlenecked at PCIE3, it cripples the card so badly its not funny. 1650G6 or 1050 TI are the cards for SFF. Both under $150 NEW, and generally $100 used.
This was my first GPU about 5 years ago haha so seeing this GPU pop up was a instant click for me. I had a Dell OptiPlex 9010 SFF (which had a i7-3770) and so this and the 1050Ti LP was the only options I had (and I didn't have money for a 1050Ti) due to no PCIe power connectors and the small size of the SFF. I had the original variant of the card and I actually had good memories on Rainbow Six Siege, CS:GO and Rocket League (on all ultra low lol). Of course I didn't recommend it to anyone at the time. But it bought me into the world of PC gaming so I could never truly hate on it.
Really would have liked a comparison with the Ryzen 5 5600g as well. I think if money is tight get this instead a GT 1030 and upgrade to a dedicated GPU when more money is available. I don't know US prices but in Germany a 5600g is 114€ whereas a GT 1030 alone is 80€. So maybe the 5600g is the better alternative?
The Ryzen 5 5600g is a great Idea and the best cheap alternative for sure, I went instead with the less conventional route using the Ryzen 5600 + GT1030 combo. (Already had the GPU) I can now have the full fat 32 megabyte of L3 cache and just upgrade to a future GPU when needed. (Media/Light Gaming Center mini PC) (Psst..Paid $103 bucks for an open box CPU) I"m pretty satisfied with it since I'm coming from an A10 7860k (Overclocked, Noisy, Hot running, And still slow as molasses. That's my two cents, Thanks for letting me rant. Cheers!
@@Obie327 The question then becomes "is the 5600g better than the 1030" though, and you do seem like someone who might need to know that more than even I do. EDIT: a quick google search puts them at comparable performance, so depending on your ability to allocate ram to the 5600g, you may be better off with it or worse off Some games work better with one, some the other, so it might have been worth it to buy the 5600g and switch between the 2 on a per game basis.
@@InfernosReaper I'm aware of the Specs of the 5600G and also realize it's not the same core as Zen 3. 16 vs. 32 megs of L3 cache is a telling sign. Since I use spare parts I've got laying around, I can utilize this opportunity to not worry about replacing the CPU/APU in the future. My choice was of a pretty sound value aspect for my use case. Having a stronger CPU with a simple drop in discreet GPU for the future, Just makes upgrading easier. Peace!
It would have been nice to also show benchmarks with like a 5600G as well as the mentioned RX 580 and 6400. This is a video that probably would have benefit a lot from more time in the oven.
@@TypicalBlox Because that's not the use case for this sort of card. If you have a 5600G, you're not going to be upgrading an old half-height machine like the sort of thing the 1030 is for.
The GT 1030 is available in many countries where the cards you mentioned either aren't, aren't available used, or aren't available for as cheap - some of the cards you brought up cost twice the price of the 1030 in Brazil. We haven't been asking for no reason.
So 1% of the population is the reason that 99% of the population has to deal with this.... Makes sense..... Actually considering Asia it's 10% of the population..... But still complaining that the majority of the world has a better economy than poorzil..... Doesn't change how the world works.
I assure you it's more than 1% of the world, in fact it's actually 60 percent. The GT 1030 used can be found in Macedonia for around 20-30 bucks meanwhile the GTX 1650 can be found for 100 bucks, approx 4 times the price, and it's worse for the new market because the GT 1030 is 100 bucks new while the 1650 DDR5 one is 250 and the DDR6 model is 350-400, almost as much as the entire salary of a person living there, and adding the things you also need to spend your money on, it makes getting a GPU of that caliber not as easy as in Canada. Brazil and Macedonia are only 2 examples, imagine the countless other countries that go through this problem. Perhaps do research on this rather than proving my point that Tech youtubers cater to a rich and money hungry audience
As a GT1030 owner, can confirm, would be better off with an actual potato in your PCI slot. Something else I think should've been mentioned in the video is how the GT1030 isn't supported by GeForce Experience.
I'm still running my RX 580 that I bought 5 years ago and haven't had much of a problem with it. I manage to play even modern titles on medium at least and get an avg of 60fps consistently. Still a great GPU if you're on a budget.
Same here, but I bought it at the beginning of the pandemic just before prices started going wild. I'll never buy a GPU that costs more than an entire high end console so I'll be stuck with the RX580 8Gb for a good while to come. I'll watch reviews of the high end stuff but there can't be that many people that spend $800+ on a GPU.. right? I'd love to see some $1000 PC builds or reviews of $200-300 GPUs.
RX580 is literally a goated card. I got a 3080 for below retail and the 580 felt like such better value both now and looking back. They sell used for under 100$ and that's simply unreal to me.
I had a GT 1030 2 GB GDDR5 version and It was great! It plays roblox and minecraft pretty well, however shaders was harder to do at 60 fps, but overall it met the min standards for 1080p gaming! Now i have a Rx5600 XT and im blown away how much nicer it is to upgrade to an better card! always spent the extra money!
These cards are perfect for making yourself a cheap 4k capable htpc that can also be a phenomenal little rom station with launchbox "big box mode". Remeber this came out long before rdna2.
My First GPU was an R7 260X that I donated to my friend who was in need of a GPU. He bangs out an insane amount of games on that still and It makes me so happy to see my card still working and being appreciated 😊
Yeah I my first card was the R9 270x 4GB model. I remember people criticizing me saying 4GB wasn't worth it but saved me in the end when newer games came out.
I will never forget my first graphics card the R9 280x MSI bought it used for $200 a very long time ago. Crazy to think that was half my life ago jeez.
Interesting you said that 720p is HD (5:56), because yeah 720p used to be considered HD however now youtube doesn't consider it HD, only 1080p & 1440p are. Probably because higher resolutions have become more mainstream. I still think 720p is HD personally as well was just an interesting note.
I like these reviews 🤷 Many of us are interested in this tech and even more are actually using it than you think. As someone who typically uses yesterday's flagships, review everything!
RX580 is so awesome. I have mine since 2 1/2 years and 1440p on middle settings is no problem and 1080 mostly Ultra! I bought it for ~150€ back than! Freakin awesome :D
bro i had one of these overclocked to all hell because my first budget gaming pc was priced at 100% and i only needed a card. lasted me well. still lives. the ole faithful for if my main gpu dies for some reason.
I would love to see a video/series covering cheap video cards for media server video encoding duties. I have a 780ti in mine, but that’s just because I had it laying around after I upgraded my GPU several years ago. It would be nice to throw something smaller/less power hungry in there, but I don’t know what cards can handle multiple 4k streams at once.
Yeah I was a little disappointed to see no mention of server duty in the video since that's the use case I often see people recommending it for online.
Intel arc a380 is a beast when you consider price to performance ratio for media servers. It has h.265 av1 and vp1 encoding and runs on only 75w. Sure it can be wonky with the drivers still but they're getting there. I'm sure it's gonna only get better and it's dirt cheap.
Shout out for the RX580. Bought one years ago. Now its in a media center in the livingroom. The down side is the size. I had to buy a 3U case case so that I could fit the card in a case. I have a PCIe powered card in the basement. I hold on to it, for fault finding, because my Ryzen chips don't have onboard graphics. I bought it because I needed a GPU and it's all I could afford at the time.
Yeah, I think the main appeal of these cards is the power consumption because my Dell Optiplex has a 240W power supply. I bought an RX 6400 and it can run Minecraft shaders at 100 fps it's great (the whole build cost me like 230 USD).
The SFF Optiplex that a lot of people get has a PCIE power limit of 50W as well. I do have a 75W GTX1650 in mine though and it's been fine for a couple of years :D
I started with a gt 730, then the 1030 2g ddr5 and now I have a gtx 1050 ti ( I only play old games). The 1030 is currently in my parents streaming computer and it's perfect for them. I really liked the 1030 for quite a while.
I think its worth mentioning that for someone coming from a cheap laptop or really old desktop to a very very entry level gaming pc, those kinds of FPS are a godsend, and if youre cheaping out that hard, youre really only planning to play those older games anyway. Apex fps was def playable for someone coming from that background
When overclocking a 1030, don't touch the voltage slider. The card is severely power limited even with its tiny GPU. For best results, use the curve editor in Afterburner to undervolt it a little and cap the core clock so you don't crash from brief boost peaks. And don't go crazy with the vram oc as it also eats into that precious power budget.
Can we just get a week's worth of content only based on UA-cam recommendations? 😂
It would be nothing but shorts. Being how UA-cam is demanding content creators to do nothing but shorts.
@@Qardo that's true and that would be very unfortunate
ahhh yes this please :D
@@Qardo Attention spans over the years has shortened, even music has suffered in that region with most being very repetitive or even 2 minutes long each song. That's not long at all.
Can we understand this comment is so legendary we need to get it to 666 likes (and maybe even over 9000 lol)
As a GT1030 owner, I would approve of this video and the graphs especially, if I were able to render it.
@@jacobrzeszewski6527 1080p bro, dik how they have that bad of performance fr
used to have a GT710 lmao... and upgraded to rx550 haha..
wtf who commented that
@@Lord_common_sense
I have integrated Intel hd 2500 and but can run Roblox at 720p pretty fine on some games
@@CreafordI mean it's Roblox, so it makes you can run it
I use a RX580 and I'm totally happy with it! It was one of AMD's best decisions to give it 8GB cuz it still runs every game I ever tried without problems and at least 60fps, often even well over 100 (obviously on 1080p)
Agreed, i was thinking of replacing it last year, but now that AMD has fixed their OpenGL drivers its great again. Only game ive played that had performance issues was Control.
100% agree. Still very happy with my RX 580 as well
100% great card for a budget build, I've seen them in fb marketplace as low as 60 bucks used
I went with a 1060 back then, mostly for power consumption reasons, and am still happy with it as well.
I had a 8gb rx480 and that card was a workhorse until I got a good job and was able to upgrade. That card got me through college
As a 580 8gb owner since launch (now on 6800xt).
And 80-90 bucks, that's a steal...such an amazing card.
I still have the 8gb 570. Upgrading to the 6800xt this weekend, and I'm beyond excited. Or maybe I should just buy 3 or 4 1030s and run them SLI (joking)
you can find it for cheaper
for people who tries to build a 1030 budget type of build, then its not worth it imo, u can just integrated graphics from Ryzen 5 5600g
@@Lord3nder 3 or 4? Holy PITA Batman! Nobody should ever DO that. Glad you have some sense and I see one of them is a sense of humor.
FWIW I went from 570 4Gb to a 6600 8GB and am just gloriously enjoying 1080p full whatever settings. I am equally certain your new 6800XT will be very much at home as the 580 was. Hopefully the old dear gets to continue playing Fortnite or Minecraft with some youngsters. Old isn't dead yet.
Ur cpu?
It's important to note that the GT1030 doesn't include an NVENC core, so if you're hoping to use it for transcoding video for say, a plex server, you'll have to go with something higher end instead. (Minimum in Pascal was GTX 1050ti or a Quadro P400 which is tiny)
1050 Ti is great for transcoding in a media server, that was my old card and it's nice to put it to use.
LOL, this card is GARBAGE
Or an AMD RX550 if you live in europe. AMD cards sell cheaper than nVidia cards. The 1030 still costs around 100€ here, which is completely nuts. The RX550 for around 70€
Nvidia never really replaced this card, to this day... unless you want to count the Quadro T1000/T600/T400 series. At least those have transcoding and perform better overall than a GT 1030. But cost way too much for what they are.
But in the consumer space, there is no direct replacement. The GT1630 doesn't have a low profile, single slot version, so you can't put it in a SFF Optiplex. Which makes me question why it even exists. For that matter, RX 6500, why? Why these anemic, yet full-sized, cards? Why can't y'all do small and powerful? I know, the RTX A2000... but that's a TWO slot, half height model... shrink it and we'll talk.
One of these days I'm gonna break bad and build a new rig, and not have to worry about how big the graphics card is, but for right now, I have an Opti with a 1030 and I want something better, but the RX 6400 kind of sucks. Then again, it doesn't actually suck any harder than a 1030, and it's a lot faster, so... maybe I'll just go that route. But still, the NVENC on the Quadro T series is mighty tempting...
@@SeeJayPlayGames There is a GT 1630 low profile from Gigabyte, but it's way overpriced. Even more so in the EU. 170€ for this garbage GPU. Many SFF cases can fit a dual slot GPU. I do have some older SFF boxes from Siemens and IBM/Lenovo (PII to C2D) and they all can fit a dual slot LP GPU. The ThinkCentre did need a bit of work with a saw, because the removable HDD caddy was in the way. Since i use 2.5" SSD's, i did saw a hole into the HDD caddy to fit a GTX750ti GPU. The SSD still fits in the Caddy
This really brings me back to my childhood, looking at the absolute lowest cost cards because my parents weren't going to spend "extra" unless I gave them a good reason.
Gt 630 vs apu benchmarks
Same but my parents COULDN'T spend anything. They were poor. I don't blame them tho, they care about me and have worked hard to make enough money for us to survive, but they probably shouldn't have raised a kid.
hell yeah me searching for "gta v gt730 benchmarks" a decade ago damn
Better gaming experience for you is a good reason?
@@camotech1314 lol. I think our parents are very different. Just gaming is never a reason for my parents. They are against it.
Good to hear the RX-580 compares favorably in this sort of context. I got great use out of it for several years and then put it into a spares build for my nephew 2 years ago. He's almost 10, already thinks his computer is a beast, but I'm about to upgrade him with an R7 2700x + 5700XT build.
Please make sure to avoid the msi 50th aniv edition 5700xt at all costs!
Can you be my uncle 😂
that's really nice of you man..
appreciate what you're doing for your nephew =)
God bless.
@@gloopington HAHAHAH
The RX-580 is crazy good for the value. When I was looking into a GPU for my server before I ended up retiring my 1080 to it (upgraded main build to a 3060ti), I was amazed at how capable that card was for the price. It's basically AMD's equivalent of the 1080, nearly beating it, and it's under half the price.
That moment you can buy a used 1080 ti for $100 more and get +922% more performance on average 😂
THE GT 1030 HAS A 30 WATT MAXIMUM!!!!!!!! YOU DO NOT GET TO COMPARE A 30WATT CARD WITH A FUCKING 185 WATT CARD!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
@@spacemandan7971But you can compare price.
Chill out bruh.
@@spacemandan7971 Being 30 watts is a negligible upside.
An rx550 is also low-power and massively better value still.
@@spacemandan7971the wattage is basically irrelevant on a modern system, your power supply shouldn’t be any lower than 600 watts.
Outside of the NA market this is not the case. I’ve seen people trying to get 500 usd for old 1080’s because of lack of availability of new cards. The 1030 goes for around 150 after tax here brand new.
I can't believe the 580 is only $80, that's insane.
I think the GT1030 is best suited if you're making a small emulation box.
That particular RX580 is... very sus. According to the seller's specs it got less shaders and a lower clockspeed than a RX 580 should have, which makes it the "RX 580, Chinese-market prebuilt PC special edition", which actually makes it closer to a RX570 than a standard RX580.
The AIB selling it has also put out some mobile-to-desktop conversion cards that only work with their own special hacked drivers, photoshopped a competitor's press materials and passed their new cooler design off as their own, and there's allegations they're putting old mining chips onto new boards and selling as "new". The company only recently appeared in North America, and actual owner reviews are scarce and with higher DoA complaints than other brands.
"New 580 for $90!" should have carried some asterisks.
I remember when 580s were going for $800+ during the height of the crypto boom, glad I got out of the mining game when I did
I've seen more than enough bad boards and outright scams from random Chinese companies that I'd rather not support anything.
The only half-decent products are the Machinist X79s, but (unless you have an i7) you can get a Supermicro X9 for around the same price. There's also the Erying boards, but you need to get the large VRM heatsinks and use a downdraft cooler for them to work alright.
@@jameslake7775 2048SP
I bought the ASUS ROG Strix OC brand new for $160 before the GPU shortages and when the card was less than a year old
I put one of those in my old computer in 2019 to be able to watch 4K videos. It made the difference between me being able to watch my own drone videos, and not being able to watch them. (I don't play computer games, just video editing and watching) I've since upgraded to a better computer, but that old card is still in use as a secondary computer to feed my downstairs TV, and still works after 4 years of daily use.
6 years
@@anderstermansen130 you're quite the math specialist if 2019-2023 somehow equals 6 years huh?
@@Knaeckebrotsaegetbf they said "4 years of daily use" perhaps it wasn't until the last 4 years of the total 6 that they have been using it every single day and the 1st 2 years it was only being used when needed to edit videos.
@@DuelingDexperts It was purchased in 2019...
@@DuelingDexpertsbro you ain't stretching you spaghettifying at this point
Bought a Rx580 right before the pandemic for about $150 and it’s been absolute beast for the past 3 years. I’ll upgrade soon but I couldn’t have been happier with it. Highly recommend for those on a budget
Same ! Like exactly the same, I got mine for $100 out of a mining rig on eBay right before the pandemic.ithandles 1080 any game tittle 60 frames +, I couldn’t be happier with it! I’m primarily a musican which is expensive enough so my gaming budget suffers 😂
570 4GB for $100 right after lockdown was announced
Yeah, I missed that window because by November 2020, the best deal I could find on one was $220 and it hurt to pay that much more. Then I didn't feel so bad, because if I had waited longer to build a PC for my wife, she would've missed on tons of gaming and they were over $500 by Jan or Feb of 2021.
Bought the RX580 in 2018 for like 250 + 3 Games and traded it + 30€ a year later for a 1070 zotac amp extreme. Still using it today.
I bought it when it was released for 100 wanted a bit mine for fun but broke the bios and had then always so much to do so never used it. Then I repaired it 2-3 years ago mined 100 bucks or sth on it and sold it for 400 on the peak of crypto hype.
I added this card as an upgrade when Dell assembled my i7 desktop. I mostly use the PC as a media center for streaming movies and TV and don't play games at all. I currently have a 55inch 1080p display connected and it works like a charm playing HD and UHD movies. It should be able to power a 4K monitor as well. There are many consumers who just want a better video card and don't want to upgrade the power supply. That is the primary niche for this card. It's too bad that you really can't get any new cards with such low power consumption. That's why it's still so popular all these years later.
If your i7 has an integrated GPU and is newer than a decade old, it should have zero problem pushing 4K. I'd be shocked if anyone truly needed a 1030.
@@Leo9ine I just upgraded to a 4K TV last month. I settled on the FHD+ setting on the video card as it is the most stable. I was having some issues with the 4K output setting. The TV does a great job of upscaling to 4K though. Windows is not a very good platform for media playback. I have zero problems using a streaming device with a basic ARM chip in it, but if I try to play content on the PC with DTS audio..it is terrible if you pause or try to skip forward, it freezes up for a few seconds before resuming playback. DTS must not be fully supported, but I'm not sure if Microsoft or Intel are at fault there. A 2 year old i7 Dell desktop with 16GB of RAM should be able to do this stuff without breaking a sweat.
@@pauljoseph2400 Hi, a few months back you posted info you had GT 1030. Do you still use if after upgrading to 4K TV? I'm thinking about upgrading my HTPC with this card as a cheap option with HEVC (H.265) and 4K support. BTW, my HTPC is Windows based and I don't have major issues with playback. Gaps in audio after pausing and rewinding have nothing to do with the Windows itself or (in my case) Kodi as a player. It's casued by AVR which is decoding audio streams and if you poke with "passthrough" options in (again in my case) Kodi or AVR you should be able to get rid of that side efect.
You can always get the trashy RX 6400, I think it will serve your non-gaming needs.
@@ConradCarelandish I'm just going to run out Windows 10 support on this one, and get a gaming pc with a suitable power supply and video card in 2026.
Even if this isn't meant for me directly since I usually use mid-tier cards, this was still so much more interesting than seeing another video on a x090 or x080 or their ti variants. We all know highest tier cards will perform better, but lower tier cards are more interesting because those can vary by so much and are the main components used to game.
Because they actually come with SOME tech tips in the video. Anyone who has watched at least 3 mid-high end card videos could write a script for one of those videos.
Fun fact: on old SFF Dell Optiplexes, the power supplied to the PCIE pins is capped at 35W, which makes the 1030 the best card they can handle.
The RX 6400 absolutely demolishes the 1030 while working fine in Optiplex SFF systems.
Idk where you read this but I don't think it's true I've messed with a bunch of optiplexs and never had a power limit through the PCIE slot.
An older 7 or 8th gen equipped Optiplexs definitely can run GTX1050ti or a GTX1650 just fine as well, I've tested some myself.
Sounds about right
@@bizklaustdeity3115 yup they sure can, the 6400 is the best possible card for the older design ones (such as the haswell-based models) though due to unfortunate PCI-E x16 slot placement
The 1030 is fantastic for everything except for gaming which is what they were intended for.
They aren't meant for gaming, but only marketed for it.
Then get AMD G series CPU?!
your right, i use them in servers to have fun with citrix software
I bought it for grafics output to have a picture on monitor that i dont have to reassmble my main gaming machine all the time.
We use them for gaming here in Brazil.
I got a 1030 a few years ago for a light gaming PC in my van. I had money for a better card but the small size and low power draw pushed me to the 1030. I've been very happy with it.
got a refurbished PC with this 1030 installed it's fine for my needs.
I found it interesting that you mention the absurdly better value a RX580 would offer for the same cost, but I would've wished to see some demonstrations of just how much the RX580 beats the GT1030 into a pulp, especially in the more modern titles. It would've really helped drive home the point I think.
im pretty sure the rx 580 is similar or better to a gtx 1650 or gtx 1060 6gb. the gt 1030 is kinda joke-y compared to the rx 580, because the rx 580 is just much better.
@@friedtoaster7675 Yep, that's what I'm thinking too, but that would make the RX580 an absolutely phenomenal value compared to those two as well, and I would've liked to at least seen it considered for this. This way it was just a throw-away line with nothing to back it up in the video, and I think that card deserves more for the value it offers.
The main reason to get the 1030 is because the RX580 wouldn't work in a lot of old Dell PC's (I think it had something to do with the BIOS and motherboard) and you would have to set it to legacy to use a lot of cards but the GT1030 just dropped right in and worked without having to mess with it. As a matter of fact I think the RX580 (and most cards) was too big to fit as well. It had to be low profile to fit in the Dell case. This is if you wanted to have a card instead of using integrated graphics so it actually was a significant upgrade to that particular setup. Alot of people didn't know that a 1050-ti would also work and drop right in and work too if you can fit it in the case, but the 1030 and the 1050 were pretty much your only options. I think a 1060 might have worked but I think you had to set your system to legacy to use it or it was not possible to use it in the system. Not a good bang for your buck in a sense, but it was your only option and not bad depending on your needs because since your moving from integrated to a gpu it will give you a good boost in performance without having to buy a whole new system. Bottom line it is a "specialty" card meant for a specific purpose.. Thats why it is overpriced because even nvidia probably doesn't really want to make it anymore. It just fits a niche so people gotta pay a little extra for it if they need it.
It's not the same cost. The RX 580 costs qute a bit more. I can get a 1030 for about $70 Canadian new. The cheapest chinese non-branded Rx 580 is about $140 Canadian. Double the price new.
You forgot one thing : 8 pin on rx580
rx 580 is so criminally underated in the entry-tier market.
I've seen so many posts about the 1070/6600/1060 but barely anyone talks about the 8gb vram card that still plays games at ultra settings @1080p at 60fps (all for $100USD!)
This is coming from someone who ran a rx570 4gb and was able to confortably play Apex Legends, COD Warzone 1 & 2, NieR Automata, etc.
I managed to get the rx 590 February of 2020 for 200$ and I'm still using it and it handles pretty much every game on Max settings or almost max for 1080 60fps. Excluding cyberpunk and a few niche games
Ive been running a 8gb rx580 for several years. It still does good on most ganes at 1080p. I do want a newer card for higher fps but this one has been solid for years
Agreed, I bought one ( for about 200 dollars) quite some time before the GPU shortage and sold it for over 500 Dollars during the hight of the shortage (I don't feel bad because a miner bought it, he was bidding on all GPUs at the same time so I'm certain he used them for mining)
@@marvinmallette6795 It's two generations of difference, 5000 released before 6000
(and Vega, so actually 3 generations)
I ran the rx 470 for 2 years and it was great. Managed to sell it for 65 and buy vega 64 which although is a space heater can playing anything I want as high as I want (1080p monitor)
I still recommend the RX580 8gb to this day. It is a killer card that just dominates on price to performance
Still have mine with a Intel 6700k.
Still runs all my games at 1080p on my tv.
It can even do triple 1440p racing games. (Albeit everything on low)
I got lucky to find one at the liquidation store for $50, but granted it’s the 2040sp version. It’s still way better than the gt 1030 forsure
I'm currently running my rx480 8gb which is basically the same as the rx580 and to this day, every game i tried runs in 1080p with 60 fps. Okay, to be fair, the "ultra" setting is not meant for my setup and there might be some newer, more demanding games i didn't try yet. But for someone who doesn't always need to play the newest skit on ultra 4k 144 fps, a rx480 8gb is still fine even in 2023
my brother has one he loves it
I have a sapphire radeon 590x nitro+ something something (its got way too long of a name) that was my stepdads and while it's a six year old card it can almost run monster hunter world with the graphics patch and even rtx cards struggle with mhw graphics patch
if u consider it e-waste can I have it?
Trust me, you’re not gonna want ts
The GT 1030 was massively popular in the media centre PC and Plex server worlds as a way to cheaply retrofit an old machine with HD hardware decoding functionality. Could be where the searches are coming from although it's pretty redundant for new builds as most modern CPUs come with all the onboard grunt you need for those tasks. [edit: removed reference to transcode function as it was lacking on 1030]
Transcoding? definitely not. The 1030 is the only card that intentionally (middle finger from nvidia) lacks NVENC. most people used a Quadro P400/P600/P620 or something instead as that one isn't crippled and does have NVENC
@@Knaeckebrotsaege Sorry yes you are right it lacked the encode capabilities but it did support PureVideo so was still popular in this use case for adding HD playback to older devices.
Linus: e-waste
When the GT 1030 came out at that time, there was nothing comparable, so it was small and above all cheap. Even then nothing for gamers but just ideal for special applications such as HTPC or just as I used it to upgrade my old mini PC that had no GPU. Since the 1030, the office machine was even HD capable again and UA-cam or similar no longer jerked. Definitely the opposite of e-waste if you used it consciously.
@@Shadow27374 Effectively the 1030 was just a (at the time long since overdue) incremental update to the 750(Ti). It performed about the same but used less power, so low-profile cards were more common. But nvidia intentionally crippled it by removing NVENC and then further shot themselves in the foot with the slow as molasses DDR4 version. At this point the only reason for it to still exist is that there's no replacement yet (basically the same situation the 750(Ti) was in before the 1030 came out). It did have its use cases that tech youtubers surrounding themselves 24/7 with hardware average joes can only dream of fail to even consider, but at this point it really needs a replacement, which I kinda doubt we'll get because the whole HTPC market has all but vanished by now and there isn't much money to be made from the lowest-end anyway...
The 1030 had some reason behind it, when it was released.
I bought one of these about 4 years ago, for a small factor PC that is hooked up to my TV. At that point in time, and that scenario in mind the 1030 was the best possible choice. I got myself a passively cooled one, so it is completely quiet, it comes with low power consumption and an HDMI 2.0 port. It supports all modern video codecs (at least when it came out, but is still fine, as I haven't encountered AV1 in the wild yet) and it was much cheaper as a NVIDIA shield.
If you already had a pre-built and needed to add something, than yeah it was potentially your only option.
But if you were building a small form factor pc, it was not a great option at all as it added cost for no benefit considering ryzen apus came out in 2018 with similar performance so you could buy one of those and get a cpu with on board graphics comparable to the 1030 for the same price or cheaper than a 1030.
@@GhostAcez Most early Ryzen CPUs didn't include integrated graphics. The "g" variants usually didn't appear on the market for almost a year after the non "g" versions were released, and usually got overshadowed by a next gen Ryzen release just a month or two later. I honestly feel that something similar to the GT1030 should have been made by AMD to fill the "I just need graphics and a modern interface" need.
I ended up build a lot of Intel PCs for people during this time because adding a graphics card to a home office pc always broke the budget.
I used it because I had an old Dell PC with no GPU and it was one of the only cards available for use in it. I'm pretty sure it was basically made for that. At the time it allowed me to play CS:GO and a couple other games which is the only reason that I wanted it. I eventually got the money and put in a 1050-ti though so I could play RDR2. I actually still have the 1030 in a box somewhere. It was useful for what I needed because that and a memory upgrade pretty much tripled my FPS at the time.
I mean in a lot of ways it makes even less sense because why in the hell would you buy a brand new entry level card for an HTPC or some kind of similar use from a Best Buy when it is clearly going to cost more and deliver inferior quality. At that point I'd just be using a GT 710 or something as basic display adapter. OR, I'd just get a used lower end card. I just think it's funny how much worse performing the 1030 is but costs more than an RX 550. I can't remember if the 550 was meant to be a 1050 or 1030 competitor though in fairness, partly because the performance, but it's like this with everything, it might make some sense getting the higher end nVIdia flagship but their budget/entry level stuff is just such complete garbage. I think part of the problem is, now nVidia's midrange is quite literally budget level garbage but while costing the same as their flagships, making everything beneath a 80ti solidified as having its bad reputation. Like there is no reason to have considered anything beneath a 780ti a few years ago, and right now it makes much more sense to either get a 980ti or a 580, since the 580 while cheaper and having more VRAM is worse performing. I don't know, I guess I am just biased partly, I still see flagship as being higher performant and quality enough it's not a bad product on its own, just bad pricing, as opposed to their lower end stuff which IS a bad product objectively speaking.
There is another thing you've should mentioned, Linus. 1030 have more modern codec support, allowing UA-cam 1080 playback on older hardware w/o CPU gasping for breath at 100% trying to decode video stream. So if you having old gen 2/3/4 intel CPU or AMD FX/Athlon II machine and don't have money/don't plan upgrade CPU/MOBO/RAM combo it's worth looking for, esp. for 50-60 bucks, AND you don't have to upgrade your old PSU.
Yeah, it was a poor video missing a critical point.
His point was that any of those cheaper and faster other cards would too
i use it for retro gaming everything until 2007 it is great for that
That's right. The lack of VP9 codec support on RX 580 is hurting. An older i5 is screaming for a mercy under a 4k yt video. While this lil boyo the 1030 easily handles it.
@@jomeyqmalone
So called cheaper and faster cards that also require a bigger power supply and thus are NOT in-fact cheaper.
Great video! Also I should mention, the rx 580 listed in the description is a 2048sp, basically delivering 570 performance while being overclocked as you mentioned in the video.
even with 2048sp its still batter than the GT 1030 and the gtx 1050 and the gtx 1060 6gb
@@azexy21 True
i bought a pre built a while ago with a 1030, the upgrade to a 1080ti was monumental
u just went from 0 to 1000 lol
I only calculate a 50ti increase. ;P
ofc... but if you don't have the money for a 1080... then you don't have the money for a 1080... :D
@@YammoYammamoto aren’t those ancient cards pretty affordable by now?
I mean a entry level card like a RTX 3050 is better now
@@rolux4853
Pretty affordable is relative.
The card was 100 new, 50 used...
For some people 50 is a stretch, granted... not for "let them have cake"-Linus, but for some people it is a LOT of money...
Instantly comparing to cards that are 150 isn't a viable reply... but rather - it's the reply of that one annoying, unhelpful, toxic jerk that always exist in every forum... on UA-cam - it's apparently Linus.
The ONLY thing Linus needed to do - was to say "it's not a great card... but if it's all you can afford, here is what performance you can expect playing games X, Y, Z...
...instead Linus goes and tells struggling people:
- "just buy a Tesla".
I'm putting this channel on "don't ever recommend" after this atrociously nauseating bull excrement.
_Sorry if I come off as hostile... it's not directed towards you - but at jerks that think they can piss on their audience just because they're famous._
Really cool to see you guys compare the 1030 to a new 1050 Ti that costs $150. That's what I paid for my 1050 Ti... 5 years ago.
Can't wait to spend $400-$500 for the next x060 tier card which was $230 when I last upgraded.
Yeah, it's a joke and honestly weird that old GPUs like that are *still* so expensive... Does kinda make me wish I could afford to drop the $100 for the RX580 to replace the 1050ti in my Ryzen desktop...
EDIT: Nevermind, those $100 examples seem to be weird no-name brand cards of questionable origin.
@@InfernosReaper I've sold my XFX RX580 GTS OC edition for like $86. Where are u from?
@@marcindager7567 You *sold* isn't the same as I can easily buy...
Shame, though, I'd have gladly paid that a couple of months ago. Now, money's a little less good, sadly.
@@marcindager7567 8GB RX580s are easily going for less than $100 where I live, typically around the $80 range. I just picked up a 1080ti for $175 and a 2080S for $280 last week, so my friends would have easy upgrades when they're ready for them.
To date, I've gotten:
- 3080 Vision 10gb for $620 (6 months ago)
- 3070 FTW3 for $325
- 3070 XC3 for $370
- 2080S for $280
- 1080ti for $175
- 1080 for $150
They're out there, you just have to look.
It does suck and it shouldn't be this way, but I feel we should focus so much more of our anger on things like food/houses/cars/etc. These are all NESSESSITIES and take up way more of your income than upgrading a $800 PC every 5 years ever will. Inflation is a bitch and isn't going away, but no reason it can't slow for necessities.
I was trying to decide between the Rx550 and GT1030 some years ago, but then realized that the RX560 was way faster and not much more expensive so I went for that
It was like 25% more expensive, but literally double the performance
I went from the 1030 to the 1050TI LP, which was twice as good. double the cost, double the performance... But I was happy with it. Now rock a 2060. At the time I had no idea about the RX560.
That's the thing, you can always find a used GPU for less than 80€ that will blow those entry level cards away completely. They are never good value.
@@birdmanballs69 even that seems over priced compared to a new RX 580 for $90, it's less than twice the price and double the VRAM is starting to become a very worthwhile feature. It also sounded like used cards were going for about that too post mining bust.
@@kz.irudimen thats not true across the board it depends entirely on your use case. For 40-50 bucks you got a failry powerful tiny card for the tpd. Its fucked that it doesn't have nvec but it still made for an excellent little card to play 4k tv on a mini htpc. They where also total powerhouses for bulding a mame station. Even more so if you wanted to use a crt.
@@zeroa69 If you have absolutely no interest in 3D gaming then yeah, otherwise you could buy a used 1050.
This was fun, I enjoyed the sass and shade. Would love to see more content gap videos in the future!
The biggest advantage of a 1030 is that for a long time it was the fastest dedicated card you could fit into a lot of SFF PCs. So it was a popular upgrade for, e.g., off-lease Lenovo ThinkCentre PCs.
That was the 1050ti 4gb not the 1030
Yeah I was again disappointed that Linus didn't really talk about that at all besides a small mention at the start of the video. For most people the entire point of a 1030 is that it was the only decent card that fits in an SFF office tower.
@@TheDarkToes Not all SFF have at least 300w psu. A 75w card like 1050ti could still be too much for a 250w power supply.
better not waste more time reporting on this e-waste
@@suiken3149 True.
This was a great video. I know that these cards being garbage is just accepted as true for many of us, but the in depth explanation as to why they are garbage is extremely useful.
Agreed. It's easy to sound like a snob when telling someone that the GT1030 is a terrible value even at the low price. Being able to explain why it's a terrible option is extremely helpful.
And expensive dollar for dollar for what the 1030 can't and can do.
Especially when you can get a rx 580 8gb for 50 to 80 euros
the problem is the GT1030 is still it's launch price or higher, despite being basically an updated 750ti
@@InfernosReaper See @9:35 the gtx 750ti is actually better than the gt 1030
The RX 580 is such a good card. My sister bought Hogwarts Legacy not realizing her laptop had no chance of running it. She got a rx 580 8gb for $75, I gave her an old HP 420 workstation, and she's running at medium settings, 60fps locked at 1080p. Cheap xbox controller + steam big picture means she's gaming happy on her TV.
The 480 and 580 are great cards. I think they were a little subpar new but they are great cards now.
Yeah rx580 is insanely good
For $89 you can't beat it. But you can find a used 1080 for $150 rn which is way faster. Just my thoughts.
@@doomdimensiondweller5627 my first ever gpu was a 480 so it has a special place in my heart
I bought a 580 Nitro+ almost on launch and haven't felt the need to upgrade ever since. Perhaps when 4K monitors are cheaper.
This was my first ever gpu upgrade, threw it into a hp Compaq and it was insane to me the difference. Being able to play games at more than 30fps on lowest settings, and I use it in my family pc for emulation
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I ran my RX 580 8GB since it's launch up until January of this year when I upgraded to 3070ti. Would recommend it if your budget is tight, such a great card.
I was in a similar boat. I upgraded to a 4090 this year but would have kept my 580 longer if it had not died when it did. It is still a great card to use for most games and I recommend them to anyone who wants to play games for cheap.
3070 ti is significantly faster but has the same 8gb VRAM buffer lol
@@flickscout6195 yeah, that's why I sold my 3070 because I realized that 8gb are not enough for modern games anymore. Best choice.
Should've compared it to the iGPU in the 3200G. A few years ago I tried to go ultra-budget and build the cheapest PC that was capable of running Apex. Going 3200G alone was cheaper than going (other CPU + GT 1030) and it had the same graphical performance. I think that would be a worthwhile video.
@@adammarcinkowski-ko3el yeah 14% faster than vega 8 but 3% slower than vega 11 and support dx 12_1 some game won't start anymore on the r7 250x
@@potatorigs2155 I accep that i dont play newst games , but to be honest with time I have avelible to play + games that run on my pc that i did not played I still have loot of games to play , this year I played Mad Max , Dishonored & GTAV another run , and I still have NWN2 , Oblivion , PoE , Tyranny , Batman + Batman Arkham Asylum and Stardew Valley with new update , so yeah my PC works for me now , I plan to do upgrate when new DLC to CP2077 will came out ... wait few months that will be patched , and that I will probabbly buy 4050 or 4060 depend what will be more woth it price/power . o7
Thanks for reviewing my favorite graphics card! Here's an important thing that you didn't mention: this is nVidia's only 10 series card that is available passively cooled. I don't know how many other passively cooled cards there are that get anywhere close to this model. So if you're trying to build a DAW or NLE system for a studio where you want your system to be as quiet as possible, it's a GREAT choice (the GDDR5 version, anyway). Also if you're putting together a media center PC. I know that this channel is more about maximizing your money's worth on hardware that can perform well, with gaming as the measure of performing well, but there are other possible reasons to squeeze out more performance for your money.
Also, I've played dozens of games on mine, and if you don't (and many people don't, believe it or not) care about playing the latest AAA shooter or racing games, it's perfectly fine. I play indie titles that are a few years old like Obduction, Portal, Lightmatter, Outer Wilds, Journey, Event01, The Turing Test, The Talos Principle, Pneuma, Quern, etc. and they all look great and play smoothly at the highest settings.
So yes, for heaven's sake, if you're trying to GAME, as in maximum high speed motion, detail, and FPS, and you're on a budget, save for another month and get something with more horsepower. You'll be much more satisfied. But if you're doing music or video, get one of these and use the money you save to get a better mic or camera gear. And enjoy the relative silence that comes with lower heat and power consumption. And you can still play some really great titles in your downtime.
Glad you mentioned the DAW usage of passive cooling. Not sure how much of a difference it makes if you're using an external power filter though, better connection support for multiple monitors is something I find essential while working with plugins, sample folders, etc.
cool
@@Catbattle Good point, it supports only 2 monitors (mine has DisplayPort and HDMI). It's still not a bad solution for certain uses. Got a SFF system with a weaker power supply that you don't want to spend money to upgrade, the GT 1030 is a decent choice with its low power requirements. Building a HTPC and don't want to worry about the GPU fan getting noisy? Good choice. I suspect that it was targeted at people buying Dells who needed more graphics horsepower for their workstations. Me, I wanted to experiment to find out how quiet I could get my PC
This is still incredibly specific, and the video was just to highlight that 99% of users who bought it for gaming were misinformed
And would have been better off with almost anything else.
But yes, in these specfic use cases it could be fine, I mean, besides the fact you can get better GPU's that are passive... Seen a 1050 passive several times
I have MSI passively cooled 1030 gddr5 and that pc is dead silent.I had gt 210 that fired up like lawnmower.
I had an RX 570 for years before recently upgrading to an RX 6700 XT. That little guy could handle pretty much any game I threw at it on low settings.
RX570 and GTX 1050ti were the go-to recommendations for low budget because you could get them for 50 bucks used before the shortage
I upgraded from RX 580 to RX 6750 XT 2 weeks ago. Both cards are about the best bang for the buck.
Still rocking RX 570 4G for my Hackintosh build here, and on windows, the driver is aged like a fine wine
is the gtx 1050 ti ok for 2023? Im 14 and have just built a cheap pc.
I was still playing on a GTX 760 until 2 years ago when my pc died in a house fire lol
I think its important to remember 2 things about these GPUs.
1. In some countries, alternatives may not be even within a resonable price or even available at all.
2. People who are not into building their own pcs no doubt see an abundance of these "cheap fortnight gaming pc" ads on facebook or ebay with this GPU or the dreaded GT 710 in them and what to know exactly what they are buying.
A 5600G build will be cheaper than a 12100+1030 build and will be better all around (6 cores, OCed igpu, better memory for the igpu)
There is no reason when rx lineup exist. From rx470 to rx580. Post mining cards could be found for less than 100$. Heck, i sold my rx588 for 75$. Bought rx6600xt for less than 200$ used with reshipping from states (asrock one that weighs 1kg with a box, in this situation it were a feature and it don't overheats anyway. I tried to OC but silicon is just not that good).
How many countries can't just use like aliexpress? To get a 570, 580, or similar for a decent price
Yeah. I would add that electricity is very expensive for people in certain countries. A 30 W GPU uses less power. So there is less heat for the power-hungry air conditioning to remove in hot climates.
Bonus: No need to change the power supply.
@@PotatMasterRace Yes, I agree, but "noobs" won't know that stuff. That's the OP point of view, you need to spread that information for the common folk.
Absolutely love the RX580. Sold my original one at the peak of the crypto boom for £320. Then bought another when the hype died for £100.
i regret not selling mine at the peak of the crypto, i was going to do it, but with the cost of gpus at that time it would had mean to be without gpu until who knows when.
now i have it forgotten in a box,
Big Stonks
i've been using a GDDR5 1030 for a few months in a fefurb optiplex 7010, has served me very well for everything i want to do
The RX 580 was a solid recommendation as an alternative solution for getting the best bang for the buck. While it will likely require a PSU and/or mobo upgrade if you're running an older pre-built, it offers similar performance to the 5500 XT and (sadly) 6500 XT as well as GTX 1060. And along with the advantage of 8gb of VRAM (on select models as there are 4gb variants of the 580), it still holds up pretty well even at 6 years old now (or 7 if you count that it's basically a "refined" RX 480). It was the card that got me thru the pandemic and subsequent scalper era until I was finally able to get a 3060ti for $340 last summer.
Or 8 years old as the 480 is more or less a 390. Which is more or less a 290/X, so closer to 10 years at this point. It is incredible how well these cards aged, especially when paired with something like a 4790k.
you could downclock it to 1150mhz at 0.950v and it runs at around 80w. but still not as low as a 1030.
4 GB versions of the RX 580?
Are you sure that you're not mixing it up with the 480?
Because when I bought my 480 I specifically picked the 8 GB version, but one of the advantages of the 580 over the 480 was 8 GB by default as well as higher clock speeds.
@@toothless2773o, the 480 and 390 are different beasts.
Their performance is similar, but their architectures are totally different.
The R9 290X and R9 390X are basically the same GPU with just minor changes, likewise the RX 580 is basically just a RX 480 with a minor upgrade to the production process, clock speed etc and a bit more VRAM by default.
But the 390X and 480 would perform differently in games.
For one, Polaris handled tesselation better then Hawaii, meaning that it's punished less by Nvidias gameworks shenanigans.
It has a better video encoder and decoder etc.
The generations are basically 280X->290X->285->480->Vega in terms of architectures (you can pick different GPUs for each of these architectures, but this are the actual hardware architecture generations from what I remember)
I've tried to pick cards that's all *roughly* the same performance.
Obviously the 290X and 480 are more powerful then the 280X and 285...
GCN started with the HD 7xxx series, and Vega was the last GCN architecture.
@@Luredreier I may have worded that badly, I was only talking about performance not architecture :) It‘s true that the Polaris GPUs have a few games where they clearly perform better than the 390 etc, but in most games even a 290X is shockingly close to a 580.
The Man always pushing the little guy around.
I would like to see more budget focused videos, say taking a used dell business pc and making a budget gamer out of it. I think alot of your audience could benefit from this.
It's be cool to see them go back and go through the line ups revisiting why stuff was ppls favorites.. that sort of thing
They did a gpu Tier list Video pretty recently that did just that
I love these low end hardware reviews. I think you'd be surprised how many people are running this type of hardware
Surprised in a bad way or good way??
@@garystinten9339 its all good man
I don't think it's a surprise when looking at steam hardware survey.
@@garystinten9339 surprised as in the amount of people running low end hardware. LTT lives in a bubble where (nearly) everyone they interact with runs high end hardware. In reality, a lot of people are scraping by on the lowest-end hardware that's out there. Or really really old hardware. So I think that there's a real audience out there that would find these low end hardware reviews helpful. And I think it's awesome that LTT is giving recommendations on the best alternatives for a given price range.
@@guitarinjustin Maybe children...I don't know anyone with an actual job that has a card this bad.
The gt 1030 will always be sentimental to me for being part of the office tower case scraped together first pc that my friends all pitched in on for my 13th birthday (stock motherboard/power supply and a 6th Gen Intel i5!). It was definitely a massive upgrade from the low end asus laptop I was trying to use before. This review just makes me thankful that I've found this channel and have learned enough to know objectively that cards like this are a bad option. It ran Minecraft, terraria, CSGO, destiny, and rainbow 6 well enough for me at the time though, which I guess is a lesson in low expectations making a happier person 🤷
I still have an i5 6500 and it works great!
The 1030 and other low-end cards aren't bad options unless you're using them for something they're not intended for. They're not meant for gaming. They're meant to play movies and youtube videos.
@@twizz420 Integrated Graphics can fulfill that as well. 👌👌
My first gaming Pc was an optiplex with a GT710 and I eventually upgraded to a EVGA GT1030
These are good for setting up dual monitor setups on old desktops for office use. I kept a lot of computers off the heap by adding some of these.
I saved an old pc where the motherboard display connector was snapped off with an ebay one of these. Sometimes you just need "a gpu" and it doesn't matter.
That’s exactly why I have one. My current gaming pc was originally built as a high end pc for office use only, it did not need any gpu power beyond the onboard intel graphics on the i7 8700K in it, but it did need more display connections as it was going to have like 5 monitors connected to it. I think the pc spent like two weeks at that config before it was gifted to me, and I promptly swapped out the gpu for my (at that time) RX470 from my own gaming rig, before upgrading to a 2080, and now the same rig has a 3080Ti and is pending a new CPU upgrade.
I still have the GT 1030 sat in a box at home, this video got me thinking about the capability of it as I could potentially use it for hardware encoding for Plex if it has the function to, though I’m not sure if it will be better than Intels Quicksync baked into the i5 6600K in my server. I’m definitely going to have a look into it though, might be more use than the RX 470 currently sat in my server which does literally nothing.
Wow the price actually went up for this card. I bought one years ago for 60$ from China, at the time the price locally was about 80$. Now even here it is over 100$. Looking at the used market I might be able to resell my 1030 for a small dime of a profit.
At its time with its lower price, the 1030 was a great card for SFF options and had a long field day when competing AMD card (RX 6400) took 4.5 years to finally take its spot albeit slightly higher price.
that is bc the dollar is going down, inflation bc of to many billions of USD wasted and printed out of thin air.
You know what, I think almost all those 1030 sales are just server operators looking for a super slim display-out card to stick into their servers and forget about for the rest of time.
I paid $110 for brand new launch week 1050 Ti cards. That was on a light sale but, I guess it was the last time discrete GPUs would ever have a budget category.
@@arnox4554 ive built several tabletop mames using the 1030.
@@arnox4554 Or pixel pushers for handing down old PCs to relatives. My gran doesn't need a 4090 to play Solitaire, CPUs live nearly forever, and an old mobo might still be rocking after 10+ years. If you don't happen to have iGPU or want something more in between so that certain desktop tasks like web browsing don't feel laggy... These extreme low-end cards were the answer. Until they jacked up prices to $100+, at which point it becomes pretty pointless.
I use a GT 1030 as a simple test card for cpu that don't have integrated graphics just to rule out some possible issues.
Why? i use a 6600 GT from 2004
@@xKynOx because it was significantly easier to just use a readily available card.
Honestly that's a very good use case for any GPU that doesn't require external connectors and has fairly modern support!
I'm so glad you got 1.7 mil views in 4 days. A video worth making.
2:04 My humour is so broken that I laughed a lot at this part..
Sometimes I don't know if its good or bad 😂
Same 🤣
I nearly got one of these when speccing my first PC. An acquaintance of mine saved me and told me to drop some budget elsewhere to get a 1050 instead. What a good dude.
Probably would have been better off with the 550 ti I already had lmao
A friend wanted me to build him a gaming PC at the height of the shortage. I wrote down what he should buy. He searched locally but couldn't find a gpu. A salesman sold him a 1030. My buddy was all proud until I told him it's basically a media card and not a gaming card.
I made him take it back and ordered him a 1660 Super from Newegg. It cost a lot more but he's a really happy PC gamer now.
That was the last thing I ever purchased from Newegg. About a month later they started ripping people off with their bundles and the exploding gigabyte psu.
The 1030 is faster than the 550ti
@@OriginalMergatroidbeen rockin my 1660 super since it launched, she gets the job done just fine
10:30 kicks the pants off a GTX 550 ti. That was one disappointing video card back in its day as well
This video was just freakingh beautiful. The camera angles, colors, everything. Hope whoever did this reads this comment: your work is appreciated!
you high or what
@@fujster nah, just a very different video. ltt production is good, but this one stands out
Agreed, the colors and lighting are eye catching in this one
+1 It is..
I remember my first beer...
As someone who's (officially, on paper) unemployed and lives in a place where tech is expensive, I got a lot of mileage from the (GDDR5) 1030 in the past 2.5 years. Got it for pretty cheap compared to pretty much any non-entry level GPUs. I've been scammed on 'used' hardware before so I don't shop for those unless I'm desperate.
I upgraded just the other day to another entry level one (a 4GB GDDR6 GTX 1630) and I'm having a blast with being able to play a bunch of stuff on much higher settings than before. There's definitely a use-case\market for these.
I enjoyed this, it's interesting to see how older cards perform nowadays! Would like to see more like this in the future
Randomgaminginhd does that pretty well
Picked one specifically for my home theater PC, its the cheapest card that has decent HDR decoders and a HDR-capable HDMI output
I used to have a GT 1030. It's really bad compared to my new 6650 xt, but it was the only card that fit in my Dell Optiplex (it was my first pc, and I was pretty young so I couldn't afford a good one).
Same but I built a pc with a ryzen 5 2600 and an rx 580 8gb.
same. used the Optiplex too.
Hey it's fine, I put all my money on every other things. Mind you a normal working class peasants. That I can only afford used 570 😂 but goddamn it works on modern title.
You were pretty young? The card is 5 years old. You can't be older than what? 14? Lol
@@M8Military So what? I don't know why you feel so obliged to tell someone that you see them as a lesser human because they're a teenager.
imagine being me, having bought an rtx 3060 and being the happiest person alive for the first five months... and then a power outage or something else took that happiness with it, and i'm stuck with my ancient gt 1030 again
They should have include in the review, the lack of NVENC. I was looking for a cheap card for transcoding / streaming with NVENC, and I noticed that this card don't support it. Happy that I avoided that.
I had the choice between a Radeon 580 and this for use with OBS encoding.
Everyone was saying that the NVENC chip produces much better output that the 580.
None of the reviews I read on the 1030 mentioned the lack of NVENC.
The 580 encoder would have been better than the nothing of the 1030, I currently using a 480 in my personal computer and it seems to work fine for encoding for me.
I made the mistake of buying the ewaste.
Check out T400/T600 or used P400. Surprised that Linus did not mention these.
New kid on the block is Intel A380, there are LTT video of using it as encoder.
@@kris13861 well, the writer was Plouffe, Linus just read the teleprompter. And (at least in my case) I was looking for a cheap card around 3 years ago, so at this point, I already solved the problem (at that time, I bought an old GT710 (or was 730?) Kepler that supported NVENC.)
A friend of mine upgraded to an rtx 3060 and he gave me his gt1030 for free, so I used it until I upgraded to an a750, which can run basically anything even if it isn't as powerful as other options.
Now his gt1030 is in another gaming pc of another of our friends so we are basically passing it down to whoever needs it before upgrading ahah
This is honestly a fantastic video premise. I don't know that there's really anyone out there covering some of the older cards in the modern day to see how they stack up.
RandomGaminginHD does this all the time
Plenty, Just look them up with a search
yeah, i’d like to see them cover the RX 580 8GB and 56/5700XT as well. very good value on the used market right now and are still playing new games fairly well at 1080p. the RX 580 can be found for under $100 and still has 8GB of VRAM! that’s insane value considering NVIDIA might only put 6GB of VRAM on the RTX 4050 despite that costing probably 3x as much. the RX 580, 5600XT, 5700XT, 6600, 6650XT, and 6700XT are a beacon of light in a GPU market whose future looks more depressing with each passing month.
@@Adama.1 yep. have found a bunch myself before.
@@gozutheDJ i was talking about LTT in particular, not some random channel. i want to hear linus talk about those GPUs, even if it’s a shorter video. the discussion in the comments would be much more diverse too since there would be much more people watching that video than a channel that has 1/1000th of the subscribers. yeah, you could look up benchmarks for those GPUs and those videos do serve a purpose, but that’s not my point. my point is that i want to hear linus talk about them so that these GPUs get more exposure. it would be nice to hear positive things about the GPU market every once in a while since most of the news regarding new GPUs have been bad news.
ask yourself this: should larger channels be discouraged from uploading content about a certain topic because smaller channels have already covered it?
EDIT: obviously i don’t know of this for sure but i think it’s logical to believe that this would be a “content gap” for LTT as well like this video about the GT 1030 was. at least the GPUs i mentioned are still relevant and not obsolete at this point.
I spec these in small form factor emulation boxes I build for people. They are absolutely perfect for that use case, and allow people to hook up an older less powerful system to their 75 inch 4k oled monster and play retro games. If you keep them within their limits they are great.
I am one of those people who plays older games, and for years played with 20-40 fps.
When I needed a new GPU I wanted a cheap card, with low power consumption, max 6pin connector, and something new not 2nd hand.
I bought a 6500XT. Stayed well clear from the 1030
Glad you still did a review. There are plenty of people like me who just do not want a top spec machine.
This video is kinda nostalgic for me. My first proper gpu was actually a 2gb GT1030. Upgraded to a RX580 for 80usd back in 2020. Loved it, and love this channel 🙌🏼
I wouldn't even call the GT1030 a GPU at this point
Mine was a 1030 too. After 4 years of care i sold the whole machine, but ohh man. There are some really good looking 1030 s out there, and without any power cable you can make a really great looking pc. Not to mention that many office computers comes with a 300w non standard psu at best. Yeah, 1030 is basically e-waste if you want a machine for gaming, but it can turn literally any office machine into a usable and great pc for indie and old games, and it wouldn't work without that 30w, nor without a 2gb of vram, or the ddr5.
@@NoorSkullz Around 30 years ago they called it computer accelerator. The main function were to take the load of processing the interface offf from the cpu, so the gui elements for example doesn't take up processor time. In the case of the 1030... maybe we should stick with the graphics accelerator at that case.
Hey, a fellow RX580 user! 👋
We need more re-reviews of old cards and how they compare now. Prices have changed for new and old ones, so anyone wanting to build a true budget gaming PC can see truly what the performance is and how it compares to other old cards. I have been using a 2060 super for about 4 years now and it can go ultra 1080p with no problem, and 1440p 100hz on very high/ultra depending on the game.
Driver updates can also have quite an impact. Old cards had all the optimization already done, so they might perform better than at launch. Plus they at least haven't gotten worse, but how well they do with newer titles is a different question.
@@HappyBeezerStudios yes ofc. But most budget pcs i see go for 300-400 usd cards when you van get 1080p at max setting for less depending on the game and today budget pcs are about 800-1000 usd. Which some years ago was not that high. Its just to see the real diffeences between old cards to cards from 2 to 4 years ago.
I have this 2gb ddr5 one since 2019, and to this day I can still play everything that interests me... latest Minecraft 1.20.1 with light shaders runs perfectly, old gen Fifa 22, HOI4, Dead by Daylight and GTA V are all still smooth 60fps on 1080p low settings for me. If you are on a tight budget, why not get a used one for $50.
Because you can go buy a used RX 460 or 560 for cheaper or the same price, which blows the GT 1030 out of the water.
One thing you overlooked, is passive cooling on many sku's. That along with power target and size is why i bought one for an old prebuilt that I turned into a relatively decent htpc at the time for £60 outlay.
Exactly why I had one.
Yep. Still nothing else newer available without a fan (& I've been checking since 2017). Rx6400 underclocked might work I guess....
For an HTPC that doesn't play video games, you could just use any CPU that has inboard graphics at this point and you could do that for years now.
Also if you somehow needed the performance of a 1030, again on board graphics on any gen Ryzen APU will give you that.
@Adam F Just get an AMD APU. They literally perform about the same and won't add the heat of having a dedicated gpu so your PC should be even quieter.
Yep, I used one for a completely silent box
I'm surprised you guys didn't try benchmarking it against a Ryzen 5000 APU. Would love to see that comparison, x3
Glad to see the humble GT 1030 get some attention. My use case is very niche, but I've had 2 of these (plus a 1080Ti) in my game dev workstation for almost 5 years now. I run multiple virtual machines simultaneously using UNRAID, and these cards work flawlessly and are completely stable with GPU passthrough. They allow me to use Splashtop with GPU acceleration to access the VMs for one, and the other use is that the 2GB memory is a close analogue to the Nintendo Switch. If the game I'm porting (indie, not AAA) performs ok in the desktop development engine with one of these, it's probably 80% of the way to working fine on Nintendo hardware. The fact they are single slot is also the other must have, I have other PCIe cards I need to make use of, so need all the space. Lastly, all the single slot AMD cards I've tried, although more powerful, are either unstable or plain unusable with UNRAID GPU passthrough, so I will be keeping my GT 1030s for a while yet.
^^^^^ THIS ^^^^^
It's heartening to see a responsible game developer taking time to make sure their code isn't over-engineered and is suitable for use on as may systems as possible.
I am starting to think that Linus makes videos for his sponsors, himself and his friends to watch.
I had to buy this card for my HP Microserver Gen8, it was the best low profile card at that time, before they nerfed it... RIP to everyone who bought it after...
I have a passive low profile 1030 (pretty sure its ddr4) in my system, but for weird reasons, I needed more display port and hdmi outs and didn't want to block airflow to my main gpu. It's been kinda perfect as their aren't rly any other passive LP cards these days
To be fair, when I bought mine, it was as an upgrade to a passively cooled GT650, and it really added a new lease of life to my aging I3 3220. I also didn't have a power supply with a spare 8pin connector, so I was pretty limited in what I could get. Cards like the RX6400 were not available at the time. I did do a limited upgrade on GPU when I build my new and current rig to a GTX1050ti, but I have now finally gotten a big boy card with my RX5700, and I love it! :-P
I love that on the steam stats you showed the 750ti was right above the 1030. Like, the 750ti (especially if you can get the 4gig version) is just objectivly better in every way besides power consumption
I'm totally not saying that because it's the card i'vebeen using since 2014 lol
The 750Ti was famous as the first Nvidia card to outperform AMD for compute performance / Watt. If AMD would have gone bankrupt during the dark years, we would remember the 750 Ti as the nail in the coffin.
I recently got a PNY GTX 1650 4GB GDDR6. I hope it doesn't disappoint.
I feel like the most obvious use case for this card is always missed. For people with a SFF case and zero additional power connectors, (like with an old Dell/HP office PC) options for graphics cards are extremely limited and the information is hard to track down. For the record, the best option currently available is the Nvidia RTX A2000 - SFF compatible, 12GB of GDDR6, NVENC, Ampere architecture, and draws 70w directly from the PCIE slot with no additional power connectors required. It is a dual-slot card though, as opposed to the 1030's single-slot, so make sure you have room.
In that use case, an RX 6400 is still a massively better option, as it outperforms the 1030 in literally every possible way, and typically by an order of 3 to 4 times.
Exactly, I've had to build quite a few SFF HP EliteDesks that only have room for a single slot, no extra power cables from the 250 watt power supply, and the onboard video is old blue vga. The user just wants something to be able to check email, type docs, stream UA-cam at 1080P. That fits what a lot of people need and unfortunately there's not really any cheap cards from any manufacturers that do that and connect to a newer monitor with DisplayPort, HDMI or possibly DVI. Ergo, a lot of people will just throw their desktops away and in buy a Chromebook, Surface, tablet instead which just creates E-Waste when they're essentially doing the same thing. They don't even care about portability of the latter. I've had a couple users that just need a cheap video card to have dual display, for guess what, typing spreadsheets and typing documents etc, which a lot of motherboards with Onboard video don't have dual display. These are the two reasons why inexpensive video cards are really used, not for gaming.
@@myownr4pture Old SFF computers have older PCIe bus versions which limit the RX6400.
The GTX1650 has 16 lanes available so it's not an issue.
The GTX 1650 G6 is, by far, the best choice for SFF systems. It's cheap and fits in virtually all of them, and easily runs with a 250W PSU. No power connector either.
For those few SFF systems with completely stupid designs (Optiplex 3020 *cough*) that only allow a single width card, the 1050 TI is the champ.
The RX6400XT just sucks on older systems. It's 4X wide PCIE4 connector is already bad, and when it is bottlenecked at PCIE3, it cripples the card so badly its not funny.
1650G6 or 1050 TI are the cards for SFF. Both under $150 NEW, and generally $100 used.
Or for an engineering workstation that only needs a beefy CPU and doesn't have onboard graphics. I've built those for work before.
The RX580 8Gb was such a good buy in the long run.
Still kicking in my father's computer running recent games like Company of Heroes 3.
This was my first GPU about 5 years ago haha so seeing this GPU pop up was a instant click for me. I had a Dell OptiPlex 9010 SFF (which had a i7-3770) and so this and the 1050Ti LP was the only options I had (and I didn't have money for a 1050Ti) due to no PCIe power connectors and the small size of the SFF.
I had the original variant of the card and I actually had good memories on Rainbow Six Siege, CS:GO and Rocket League (on all ultra low lol). Of course I didn't recommend it to anyone at the time. But it bought me into the world of PC gaming so I could never truly hate on it.
I would love to see a "Low power gaming build" where you try to maximize performance, while using the lowest amount of watts possible.
Saving energy and clock cycles are for the plebs - He's not interested in the real world.
Really would have liked a comparison with the Ryzen 5 5600g as well. I think if money is tight get this instead a GT 1030 and upgrade to a dedicated GPU when more money is available.
I don't know US prices but in Germany a 5600g is 114€ whereas a GT 1030 alone is 80€. So maybe the 5600g is the better alternative?
My thoughts exactly! The real smart competition is the 5600g.
The Ryzen 5 5600g is a great Idea and the best cheap alternative for sure, I went instead with the less conventional route using the Ryzen 5600 + GT1030 combo. (Already had the GPU) I can now have the full fat 32 megabyte of L3 cache and just upgrade to a future GPU when needed. (Media/Light Gaming Center mini PC) (Psst..Paid $103 bucks for an open box CPU) I"m pretty satisfied with it since I'm coming from an A10 7860k (Overclocked, Noisy, Hot running, And still slow as molasses. That's my two cents, Thanks for letting me rant. Cheers!
@@Obie327 The question then becomes "is the 5600g better than the 1030" though, and you do seem like someone who might need to know that more than even I do.
EDIT: a quick google search puts them at comparable performance, so depending on your ability to allocate ram to the 5600g, you may be better off with it or worse off
Some games work better with one, some the other, so it might have been worth it to buy the 5600g and switch between the 2 on a per game basis.
@@InfernosReaper I'm aware of the Specs of the 5600G and also realize it's not the same core as Zen 3. 16 vs. 32 megs of L3 cache is a telling sign. Since I use spare parts I've got laying around, I can utilize this opportunity to not worry about replacing the CPU/APU in the future. My choice was of a pretty sound value aspect for my use case. Having a stronger CPU with a simple drop in discreet GPU for the future, Just makes upgrading easier. Peace!
It would have been nice to also show benchmarks with like a 5600G as well as the mentioned RX 580 and 6400. This is a video that probably would have benefit a lot from more time in the oven.
LTT is quite superficial, HWU has detail.
No clue why i3 was picked of 5600g, almost same price but 5600g has like 1050ti performance
@@TypicalBlox even go cheaper and get a 4600g
@@TypicalBlox Because that's not the use case for this sort of card. If you have a 5600G, you're not going to be upgrading an old half-height machine like the sort of thing the 1030 is for.
The GT 1030 is available in many countries where the cards you mentioned either aren't, aren't available used, or aren't available for as cheap - some of the cards you brought up cost twice the price of the 1030 in Brazil.
We haven't been asking for no reason.
So 1% of the population is the reason that 99% of the population has to deal with this.... Makes sense.....
Actually considering Asia it's 10% of the population..... But still complaining that the majority of the world has a better economy than poorzil..... Doesn't change how the world works.
I assure you it's more than 1% of the world, in fact it's actually 60 percent. The GT 1030 used can be found in Macedonia for around 20-30 bucks meanwhile the GTX 1650 can be found for 100 bucks, approx 4 times the price, and it's worse for the new market because the GT 1030 is 100 bucks new while the 1650 DDR5 one is 250 and the DDR6 model is 350-400, almost as much as the entire salary of a person living there, and adding the things you also need to spend your money on, it makes getting a GPU of that caliber not as easy as in Canada. Brazil and Macedonia are only 2 examples, imagine the countless other countries that go through this problem. Perhaps do research on this rather than proving my point that Tech youtubers cater to a rich and money hungry audience
As a GT1030 owner, can confirm, would be better off with an actual potato in your PCI slot. Something else I think should've been mentioned in the video is how the GT1030 isn't supported by GeForce Experience.
I'm still running my RX 580 that I bought 5 years ago and haven't had much of a problem with it. I manage to play even modern titles on medium at least and get an avg of 60fps consistently. Still a great GPU if you're on a budget.
Ah the beautiful fine wine of actually having enough VRAM. Shame nobody ever seems to think about it till they get destroyed by it.
RX 580 is pretty relevant today.
Same here, but I bought it at the beginning of the pandemic just before prices started going wild. I'll never buy a GPU that costs more than an entire high end console so I'll be stuck with the RX580 8Gb for a good while to come.
I'll watch reviews of the high end stuff but there can't be that many people that spend $800+ on a GPU.. right? I'd love to see some $1000 PC builds or reviews of $200-300 GPUs.
i have a 570 8gb doing me wonders, ac odyssey on high 1080p no problem, rocket league hits 120fps max settings, f1 22 is butter smooth
RX580 is literally a goated card. I got a 3080 for below retail and the 580 felt like such better value both now and looking back. They sell used for under 100$ and that's simply unreal to me.
I had a GT 1030 2 GB GDDR5 version and It was great! It plays roblox and minecraft pretty well, however shaders was harder to do at 60 fps, but overall it met the min standards for 1080p gaming! Now i have a Rx5600 XT and im blown away how much nicer it is to upgrade to an better card! always spent the extra money!
HighFive!
to be honest, an AMD Ryzen 5 3400G has the same if not better performance than a 1030GT. and that's just an APU.
These cards are perfect for making yourself a cheap 4k capable htpc that can also be a phenomenal little rom station with launchbox "big box mode". Remeber this came out long before rdna2.
My First GPU was an R7 260X that I donated to my friend who was in need of a GPU. He bangs out an insane amount of games on that still and It makes me so happy to see my card still working and being appreciated 😊
Woah! I had a 270 and if it hadn't died I'd still be rocking good games in it to this day =)
very kind of you
Yeah I my first card was the R9 270x 4GB model. I remember people criticizing me saying 4GB wasn't worth it but saved me in the end when newer games came out.
That's so nice to hear!
I will never forget my first graphics card the R9 280x MSI bought it used for $200 a very long time ago. Crazy to think that was half my life ago jeez.
Interesting you said that 720p is HD (5:56), because yeah 720p used to be considered HD however now youtube doesn't consider it HD, only 1080p & 1440p are. Probably because higher resolutions have become more mainstream. I still think 720p is HD personally as well was just an interesting note.
Wow budget gaming videos I could sworn I just watched a video where linus explained why they would never do this? This is amazing
I like these reviews 🤷 Many of us are interested in this tech and even more are actually using it than you think. As someone who typically uses yesterday's flagships, review everything!
RX580 is so awesome. I have mine since 2 1/2 years and 1440p on middle settings is no problem and 1080 mostly Ultra! I bought it for ~150€ back than! Freakin awesome :D
bro i had one of these overclocked to all hell because my first budget gaming pc was priced at 100% and i only needed a card. lasted me well. still lives. the ole faithful for if my main gpu dies for some reason.
Holy crap, I never expected you to make such a video with the budget GPUs
Thank you so much!
just get a job and buy a better gpu (:
Better buy something better used than this. Do yourself a favor.
@@helloukw was that English
Linus: "That's what a mobile game will getcha"
Genshin: Scaramsouche boss fight intensifies
I would love to see a video/series covering cheap video cards for media server video encoding duties. I have a 780ti in mine, but that’s just because I had it laying around after I upgraded my GPU several years ago. It would be nice to throw something smaller/less power hungry in there, but I don’t know what cards can handle multiple 4k streams at once.
Yeah, and an RX580 would be a better value, but won't help your Plex server like an Nvidia card would. I've got a 1050 in mine just for transcoding.
Yeah I was a little disappointed to see no mention of server duty in the video since that's the use case I often see people recommending it for online.
Intel arc a380 is a beast when you consider price to performance ratio for media servers. It has h.265 av1 and vp1 encoding and runs on only 75w. Sure it can be wonky with the drivers still but they're getting there. I'm sure it's gonna only get better and it's dirt cheap.
@@ErnieZee The encoder is basically what makes it useful. But for that task the A380 is great.
Shout out for the RX580. Bought one years ago. Now its in a media center in the livingroom. The down side is the size. I had to buy a 3U case case so that I could fit the card in a case.
I have a PCIe powered card in the basement. I hold on to it, for fault finding, because my Ryzen chips don't have onboard graphics. I bought it because I needed a GPU and it's all I could afford at the time.
Yeah, I think the main appeal of these cards is the power consumption because my Dell Optiplex has a 240W power supply. I bought an RX 6400 and it can run Minecraft shaders at 100 fps it's great (the whole build cost me like 230 USD).
The SFF Optiplex that a lot of people get has a PCIE power limit of 50W as well. I do have a 75W GTX1650 in mine though and it's been fine for a couple of years :D
I started with a gt 730, then the 1030 2g ddr5 and now I have a gtx 1050 ti ( I only play old games). The 1030 is currently in my parents streaming computer and it's perfect for them. I really liked the 1030 for quite a while.
I think its worth mentioning that for someone coming from a cheap laptop or really old desktop to a very very entry level gaming pc, those kinds of FPS are a godsend, and if youre cheaping out that hard, youre really only planning to play those older games anyway. Apex fps was def playable for someone coming from that background
When overclocking a 1030, don't touch the voltage slider. The card is severely power limited even with its tiny GPU. For best results, use the curve editor in Afterburner to undervolt it a little and cap the core clock so you don't crash from brief boost peaks. And don't go crazy with the vram oc as it also eats into that precious power budget.