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How Perfect Should a Christian Be?- (Doug Batchelor) AmazingFacts©
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- Опубліковано 21 чер 2012
- Informative sermon done by pastor Doug Batchelor of Amazing Facts. I don't own the copyrights to this video and it was uploaded strictly for educational purposes. Enjoy & God bless!
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This is a sermon that every professing Christian needs to hear. Many Christians and non-Christians believe that if you break God's law that God will continue to extend His grace, love and mercy forever. In spite of our lawlessness or breaking his law God extends His grace over and over. This is strange that we don't expect from those who enforce city, state or federal laws. Why is this? Do we put human authority and human laws higher than God and His laws? God say if you love me keep my commandments. This video points out what God expects from us. It points out what God will do for us and in us.How could this teaching be so neglected. I will never know? This is a beautiful message. It gives me hope. It lets me know that God cares for me and that he not trying to take away my fun, but he trying to save me from destruction.
Often people say - oh that's legalism and salvation by works - yadayada.... Trying to be perfect without Christ is a tall order, but with Christ's helping you.
Most Christians are aware of being called to follow the law of God in some ways - e.g. how many would cheat on their wives/husbands and say, "Oh I'm forgiven, I'm saved!"
You can NOT lose your salvation by sin... The Holy Spirit works in a person once he is saved to help him walk a narrower path. Everyone starts wherever they are, and keeps improving as the work of Sanctification is done in them by THE HOLY SPIRIT! Even that is not of us! ALL GLORY be to GOD!!! Everyone who comes to the Lord, comes at a different level. Saving faith is believing that what Jesus did at the cross WAS ENOUGH! There is NOTHING we can add. The last thing He said before dying on the cross was "Tetelestai!" Which translated means "It IS FINISHED!" This man is a WOLF IN SHEEP'S CLOTHING! RUN!!!! God bless!!!
Will Robinson hey Willy, when we die and are made new what are we gonna look like? Now hurry up, I don’t have all night.
HALLELUJAH AMEN
@@BlackJackKittykat You mean there can come a time when God will not honor our free will?
This message is very encouraging! Especially to me who is striving so much to stay away from sins..i want to follow Jesus, but after every step i fall down..and after i heard this, it gives me so much courage that i can be victorious in the end through God's grace! I am not a seventh day adventist but i keep on watching amazing facts, pastor doug's sermons are all encouraging. More power to you pastor. Thank you Jesus for your words!
lelaine servito Striving is not the Gospel
lelaine servito amen
lelaine servito may god bless you on your journey
@@damtedteddam5700 neither is laziness.
I love to hear Doug preach...Sometimes when I get down God uses Doug to lift me up, using Gods word...I may not completely and totally go along with everything he says ,but he,s the closes thing to the truth I can find so far....
Its not Doug to look to.
its Christ who is truth.
In fact Doug might want you to pay for the Gift.
Eph 2:8
For it is by grace you have been saved, through faith-and this is not from yourselves, it is the gift of God-
its not about fellings if he says something that is wrong then its wrong
***** Lol Quoting Paul is now a Lie......?
Eph 2:8
For it is by grace you have been saved, through faith-and this is not from yourselves, it is the gift of God-
Not only this God has stopped imputing Sin...
Rom 5:13
(For until the law sin was in the world: but sin is not imputed when there is no law.
You see this is establishing a doctrine of Grace not works.
Rom 5:13
(For until the law sin was in the world: but sin is not imputed when there is no law.
UNTIL the law. sin could not be imputed.
When the law was established at Sinai ....sin could be Imputed.
It makes all such perfect logic.
Happy as always Michael to here you view of "imputed sin"
Getting upset is just giving in the Flesh opportunity to flare up and say thing we wished we hadn't.
To use a Footy term, go for the Ball,(Bible Text) not the man (Me), Lol
*****
Lol, You really want to be under law Michael..
What can you look forward to under Law?
The law is a Curse to us.
Gal 3:13
Christ hath redeemed us from the curse of the law, being made a curse for us:
Is it the Curse that appeals to you?
or
You wish to be kept under the law maybe.
Gal 3:23
But before faith came, we were kept under the law, shut up unto the faith which should afterwards be revealed.
You wish to perhaps establish your own righteousness.
Rom 3:21
But now the righteousness of God without the law is manifested,
You wish to be a worker.
Rom 4:4
Now to him that worketh is the reward not reckoned of grace, but of debt.
Grace, michael, is unmerited favor. no good works required.
You better behaviour is not by a Law that is a Curse but by you being led by the Spirit.
Gal 5:18
But if ye be led of the Spirit, ye are not under the law or under the curse of the law.
Glory to God righteousness is without LAW.........
Rom 3:21
But now the righteousness of God without the law is manifested,
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you say"Tell it to Abraham."?
Paul is talking to you not Abraham.
Mans relationship to law has changed.
Why do you ignore the elephant in the room.
Paul said the Law is a curse.
Shouldnt your dispute be with Paul.
I am just the messenger repeating what Paul has said.
The quality question is WHY Paul said the law is a Curse.
If you don`t know.................. this is when you go back to the bible and find out......
Jesus, let me abide in you that I may not sin before you anymore 🙏
I needed this thank the Lord for pastor Doug..
Dear Pastor Batchelor: wow, now I understand through your simple illustrations: stop and not just slow down, take dominion of the cluttered space, that it is possible to sin no more. Thank you.
Love this sermon!!!!! Truth!!
was truly blessed from this sermon!
Absolutely Amen Praise the Lord Pastor Doug Bachelor
I sincerely thank you people for your prayers! One guy contacted me and wrote me the greatest email ever!
I thank you all for your prayers and I hope we can all meet in Heaven with Jesus Christ some day.
Amen!
Hey how you diong? What's up? How are you? Did you have a prayer request?
I Have beloved!!!!!!! Awhi that's a girl I fell in love with having trouble to work it out yet!!!!!!! Also all the Gangstas in my town her family included I think they going take me out beloved dam if the LORDS 4 ME WHO CAN B AGAINST US........FEAR NOT 4 YOUR LORD GOD IS WITH YOU.......I REFUSE 2 B AFRIAD God Bless........PSALM 91.......EPH6;11-21
He is speaking the truth
Thank you pastor Doug Batchelor for what you do God bless you.
Pastor Doug is amazing with the teaching of our Lord. Thank God for us having him. May God bless you many more with wisdom.
"It´s that simple..." How I enjoy these simple words!
I made my mom listen to this, because prior she didn't believe anyone could truly be "perfect". Well, now she knows.
Amen!
What a wonderful message...all need to hear this.!!! Thank you pastor doug!!!
Great sermon - thanks for posting!
Only Jesus Christ was and is perfect. Only Jesus Christ is good enough for God. No one comes to the Father except through Jesus Christ. He alone is the way, the truth and eternal life. Unless He washes us clean, we'll have no part with Him. The will of God is that we believe in His Son Jesus so that we will have eternal life through Him.
I can never fulfill the Law and be perfect. None of us can. We're all sinners and fallen short of God's glory. We can't save ourselves to Heaven with our good works. That's why God gave His only begotten Son so that anyone who believes in Him will not perish but have eternal life. Jesus Christ did everything for us! All I can do is to remain with Jesus Christ, my Lord and Savior.
Please don't let anyone or anything in this world stop you from turning to Jesus Christ, your only way to eternal life. Turn to Him and stay with Him!
HALLELUJAH AMEN
There are many addictions out there...keep praying..sometimes we must fast too, to get past our addictions. The point is TRYING to change. Sometimes it takes one step at a time. I believe we can all be victorious over our sins!
Oh Pastor Doug I thank you so much for making this message so powerful and very clear by the power of the Holly Spirit. I have confused by many preachers, but I thank God the Creator of the Heaven and Earth for His Spirit by leading me to watch this message. I appreciate God very much for not letting me to confusion but leading me by His holly spirit in time to watch this message delivered by His servant you Mr. Pastor Doug.
Praise the Lord for this tremendous message. I really needed it. Sin is a poison that only Jesus can cure
Thank you Pastor Bachelor for your encouraging words and message of hope in Jesus Christ.
Thank You Holy Father, You Are Great And Worthy To Be Praised.
Thank you so very much that you are led by the Holy Ghost, to tell the truth as it is written. Wow! for the first time I got it. And it is wonderfull!
"How does an ant eat an elephant? One bite at a time" Praise God, that is the best example of advise on cleaning up your life of sin I have ever heard. Thank you God.
This was perfect!🙂
truth and very encouraging!!
God rsisteth the proud but gives grace unto the humble.
I need this too. Thank you for uploading.
Well done thank you for sharing.
Amen, I used to wonder about this question but not anymore🙏🙏🙏👍
Dear Pastor Doug Batchelor: I want to start off by saying I love you and peace be with you. I made you part of my life because you helped me become closer to Jesus and now i read my Bible alot more than ever and now i always look on youtube to see if you have any new sermon. I wanted to know and maybe you can do research on this and share it with others but... i wanted to know if it is ok with you that you teach us in your opinion according to the Bible and what Jesus did.. "How and when to witness" Should we witness to people even though we dont fully know much of the bible and we are currently in training or that does not matter we should witness even the little bit that we know. Should we make sure that we do not add anything nore take away anything from the Bible when we witness? Should we always do it out of good will and never in rivery? is it right to go knocking from door to door witnessing to strangers because some christians do this but i know that some countrys you can do that and some you cannot do that, did Jesus do it that way? or should we become friends with person first so that they can know more about you and you can know more about them and it wont feel strange because the person is no longer a stranger? or should witnessing be something that is schedualed for both the talker and the listener because un expected visits may turn away the listeners oppertunity ? is every place appropriate for witnessing including the work place or maybe it is not a good idea to witness at your job since you are under the clock and youv got work to do and also there might be people around from other religion and they might get offended, causing yourself to be despised by others? is it ok if a person is to shy to witness and they been shy all there life or that does not matter, we should witness anyways? Can we still be saved even if we never really witnessed to anybody but still kept all commandments, prayed a lot, lived rightious and holy lives?
I pray that you may one day help me and others how to do this . I hope to keep hearing and seeing you and the internet and maybe one day i can meet you, if i never do meet you here on this earth of sin, then i definatly hope to see you in paradise for eternity . God bless you my brother :)
Robert Adam Hello, this is a link of Pastor Batchelor's sermon linked by another person. Pastor Batchelor won't be able to read your comment. If you want to reach Pastor Batchelor contact Amazing Facts. God Bless
Robert Adam when i taught school it was in a one room school house all grades thru 8th i say this because you have introduce a valid question -- i will try ok? dont let your worries bout your newness bother you rejoice in your lords love and mercy study his word and pray that the lord give you witness the power to speak what the lord has you given in season. meaning study his word and pray he will give you what you need.....this usually does not mean a former education tell others about jesus love this is your witness !
Robert Adam many of those who are witnessing for the lord do so in as much they have been given just tell people what jesus has done for you !
+Robert Adam Share what you know, and keep on studying. If anyone asks you a question you don't know the answer to, tell them you'll study it out, or better yet, find the answer from the Bible with them.
Please pray for me because i need the per of those i love God bless you.
I just love it!
great teachings
Thank you for this wonderful presentation... GOD BLESS :D
Amazing!
Great message. Thank you!
Thank you for this, I never thought of it white this way❤️
Excellent. Thank you for sharing
Amen. Praise God!
My question is, what happens if the sanctification process is incomplete at death - e.g. the thief on the cross. What is forgiven and what's not? Is it negligent disobedience vs deliberate disobedience?
Christians ought to strive with the guiding influence and empowerment of the Holy Spirit to fulfill the central demand of love which remits to be worked out in every specific situation. I say ought to and not should, because as we all know we are only perfected by faith in Christ, by God's imputed righteousness towards us.
Faith = Salvation + Good Works, NOT Faith and Good Works = Salvation. Eph 2:8-16
If you call me "ignorant" must be because you lead me by example..yet I am not ignorant...better call me sinner or imperfect in search of PERFECTION which perfection is possible with GOD.
Have a blessed life in Christ!
Thanks for the nice sermon. I am pretty sure E.G. White wrote about the scripture, be ye perfect as your Father in heaven is perfect" Is as our Father in heaven is perfect in his sphere, so are we to be in our human sphere. I think that's the word she used, was sphere, or maybe meaning sphere of influence or location? I would have to look it up, but I know as soon as we have overcome some negative influence in our lives, we will then see another, that's the growth, growing up in Christ I think is a good way to put it. If we think we are done growing, then we have been deceived, because we will always have room for improvement and see that we are not done.
I get so tired of so called ministers who say we can stop sinning. He who says that he is without sin is a liar and the truth is not in him.
Love it
Let's just all meditate upon the message of God her.! Praise the Lord.
2Cor.5:17-21 God has reconciled us to Himself...Behold I make all things new
Roman 5:17-21 even so by the righteousness of the one the free ift came upon all men
WE CAN MAKE IT don't worry how big the mountain is rather BECAUSE OUR GREAT GOD IS BIGGER and will give us victory over no matter how hi how wide how far GOD CAN DO ANYTHING nothing is impossible for our LORD...........GOD BLESS YOU DOUG YOU ALLWAYS BLESS ME BY THE HOLY SPIRIT FILLED SERMONS LOVE BELOVED.....
Wow well I just did a short bible study in this subject per say . How much is our effort to be righteous and how much is faith well become what he called us to become, we're perfected only by the blood of Christ in our SPIRIT. The body we live in has been defiled and is predispositioned to sin, this includes our mind. Our soul is being washed clean as we study to show ourselves approved. This is why he says renew you mind DAILY! So the spirit of The Lord is perfect within us,
Amen
Salvation is a gift, one which we can never earn. Romans chapter 5
Pastor Batchelor also has a sermon on law and grace.
@burf urple Amen! Amen!...and to get technical, it was His faith that saved us, and not our own. Even our faith is "not of our own"
No one is perfect only our lord and savior Jesus Christ,but if you always confess your sin to him then you will always go back to zero sin,every time you commit sin always ask forgiveness and that's why prayer is so important in every walk of our life.
Amen Jesus to strived. On that cross ohhh his prayer to the father if it be possible take this cup from me . he strived to the cross sister one slow step after another. Agonized pain but little by little he made it in hopes to see his children again.
i would like to request to all the right thinking research scholars to go through all the lines and interpretation of the Bible and find out the truth about the Bible, if so, you may even scared to say that world exist from know where as it say in evolution... Amen Pastor Doug batchelor....May you live long and continue your service to spread the good news of Christ for those who know nothing and for those who are in confuse of it....
This video shows me that I am not saved. I have tried to quit my sins but I cannot. I feel terrible about my sins but I continue to do them... :(
I don't know what your "sins" are but, this video, and many others, WOW!, What a brain wash. All that the bible and jesus and god and blah blah blah and all that blah is, is just an epic literature like Gilgamesh. Just somewhere along the way people started to "Believe" in epic literature as truth and life and the way to live. Please do not believe this. This "Stuff" needs to leave our earth. We people(humans) are a very creative species, as you can clearly see in this video. You are "saved". Save your damn self. Be a strong individual yourself. You do not need a brainwashing lie to change yourself. Just please be yourself. Don't miss understand me though. I believe that people can believe in whatever they want, and i respect that. But some things like certain portions of Christianity, is just a little bit "out of this world" if you will. I say all this with the most respect i can. Good luck in your life. Honestly.
Chatara is right. The fact that you feel terrible about your sins is a good sign that you aren't complacent. Ask for forgiveness and the strength to overcome your sins. Maybe you are discouraged but if you believe that Jesus is the son of God who died for your and my sins you ARE SAVED. We will be thinking and praying for you Matthew :)
Your righteousness is not dependent on your actions.
It is external of you.
Your job is to accept a Gift.
It was paid for 2000 years ago.
It is pointless to pay again by your miserable effort or your works of the Law.
Eph 2:8
For it is by grace you have been saved, through faith-and this is not from yourselves, it is the gift of God- No law here bro.
You are saved not of yourself.
You have complete liberty in Christ.
Gal 5:1
Stand fast therefore in the liberty wherewith Christ hath made us free, and be not entangled again with the yoke of bondage (law and works)
Rom 6:4
Therefore we are buried with him by baptism into death: that like as Christ was raised up from the dead by the glory of the Father, even so we also should walk in newness of life.
You walk in newness of life in the Knowledge that christ has paid the price.
This knowledge will conquer sin not your efforts to be good.
God bless Christs righteousness because mine stinks.
I understand you’re feelings, but don’t give up cause God won’t give up on you. Keep praying, he hears you and he will answer your prayers, just believe when your praying and you will see some change soon. God bless you and your journey ✝️🙏🏼🙏🏼🙏🏼☮️☮️☮️
@truth7seeker, you may cause others discouragement and a moment of " wow he knows more then me" . However I'm open enough to hear your heart of the matter. This man could be wrong , I'm not saying he is but how does he realign and teach truthfully ? I'd really love to comprehend his wrongs and your point.
Christians should live their lives morally perfect, blameless, righteously.
a person can only be "under the law" the moment when he/she violated it...let's put this way; you will be sued in court unless you have violation on any law of your state.in same manner we will become under the law the moment we transgress it.
Greetings 11;11 Ministries. I have about four questions. Could you please tell me which of the inspired 27 books in the New Testament has the list of books that we should include into the New Testament? I see lists of the genealogy of Jesus in the book we believe was written by Matthew, but no where am I seeing a list in any of the 27 books telling us which books actually belong in the New Testament. If we are only to believe what is written in these books, then please show me the chapter and verses that has this list, as you are telling everyone that we should only believe what is written in a chapter and verse from one of these books, and if it is not written in one of these books then we absolutely cannot believe it to be true for our salvation. A follow-up question to that then is which book, chapter and verse teach us that we are 'only' to believe what is written in these 27 books, or should we not believe you when you tell us we should only believe what is written? If that's the case, then I think you're kind of acting like you're a pope on these points when you tell all of us what we should believe when it's not actually written in the bible explicitly. Are you thinking you're a pope? Should we believe you just because you tell us without evidence from the bible or are we only going to believe what the bible actually says, what's actually literally written down inside of one of these 27 books? Just a couple more questions.....
Where in the writings of Matthew does it tell us that the Gospel of Matthew was written by Matthew, and if it not written in the book of Matthew anywhere then are we not supposed to believe that Matthew wrote it? The titles of these books were added later, they were not written by the actual writers. The inspired writings are only the chapters and verses. This goes for all of the 4 gospels. Do you believe that Matthew wrote Matthew, and Luke wrote Luke, inspired by God, and if you do, why do you believe this? Where does the Gospel of Luke tell us that Luke wrote Luke and that when Luke was writing this Gospel he was inspired by God? Which chapter and verse in Luke tells us this? You're telling everyone around you that we are all only supposed to believe what is actually written inside one of these books, so please tell me which chapter and verses you find the answers to my basic logical questions which should be very easy for you to answer, since they should be written down somewhere in one of these books, or you tell us we shouldn't believe it, which sounds popish of you again. Hmmm....This leads to only one of three things brother, either you're a liar, a hypocrite, or just confused and still learning the faith. The New Testament tells us that God is not the author of confusion, (you can google that verse) implying any group, including the Baptist church, if it causes confusion within Christianity, must be causing confusion because of Satan leading the person or group to cause that confusion. Are you being led by Satan when you create confusion in Christianity brother, even if it is out of your ignorance of history? Jesus prayed that we Christians may all be one, because the church is his bride, and he can only have one bride. He is not a polygamist, and his bride is not just a spiritual entity of all true believers, but she is also physical, just as real human people are both spirit and physical. His bride can be visibly seen here on earth, now, today. People don't marry spirits, we marry people, the church is both body and spirit not just a spiritual union, but a physical union, and can be seen visibly on earth. It is a city set on a hill for all to see, a beacon for the lost souls in the world. if anyone preaches against this desire Christ had for oneness then they are preaching against Christ himself.
So please tell me why were these 27 books added to the scriptures if there's no inspired list written inside of any of the books? At the time Jesus walked the earth the scriptures Paul talks about only included the Old Testament books, which were chosen by the leaders of the Jews, because there were no New Testament books written yet. Please tell me who and why these 27 books of the New Testament were added to the Jewish scriptures of the Old Testament, what year they were chosen, and by who being led, obviously, by the Holy Spirit? Did Jesus add them to the Old Testament scripture, and if he did, which book, chapter and verse can I find that in, when did that happen? There should be an inspired list of bible books inside of one of the New Testament books if we are going to believe the list of 27 books is inspired according to your teachings acting as if you are a Pope. Which book chapter and verses can I find this list or am I only to believe you and your word Mr. "Pope" Preacher that they are inspired books? You tell everyone to only believe what is actually written in the bible brother, but you don't even follow this teaching. Where does the word of God tell us that the New Testament book of Jude belongs in the New Testament? You don't follow what you teach brother. This is the root of the confusion you are spreading, and you are going against the Bride of Christ, his one Church, his one wife, hitting her with the very same 27 books she preserved for you to read. Christ and his Bride are one, just as a husband and wife are one flesh, they are also one flesh, one body. Therefore, just as Jesus told Saul prior to renaming him, you are throwing mud and spitting at Christ himself when you throw mud and spit at his one Bride. She is physically as old as Christ himself, he chose her himself when he was here on earth, and she will never be corrupted because it is Christ himself building her up. The gates of hell will try to destroy her, using ignorant men like Saul and people like yourself only out of ignorance, and even those within her ranks, like dead skin that needs to fall off the body, but the gates of hell will never prevail against her, because she is his Wife, and they are one flesh. He forgives her for errors she makes, just as you would forgive your own wife for errors she makes in your house brother.
Edit addition: PS. I only wrote on your post, because I'm hoping you'll respond. I really am not posting this to be antagonistic, and you seem like you really are trying to do the right thing in this life. Keep following Christ brother, as we all should. I pray the scales will fall off the eyes of the ignorant just as they did for Saul prior to being renamed Paul as he spat in the face of Christ himself when he spat at Christ's Wife, his one Bride, his Church. Just a final thought: What would you do if strangers spat in your wife's face? Peace brother. :)
God stands at the righthand of the poor against those who would judge his soul.
If a rich man comes in in rich apparel and you say sit up here and a poor man comes in in filthy clothing and you say sit thou here at my footstool.Have you not become judges with evil thoughts????
What does GOD's promise in Hosea 2:11 and Colossians 2:14-17 have in common???
Answering to a comment out of respect for my self and the person that addressed the comment does not mean fighting dear.
But, may God bless you for the unasked advice.
You can NOT lose your salvation by sin... The Holy Spirit works in a person once he is saved to help him walk a narrower path. Everyone starts wherever they are, and keeps improving as the work of Sanctification is done in them by THE HOLY SPIRIT! Even that is not of us! ALL GLORY be to GOD!!! Everyone who comes to the Lord, comes at a different level. Saving faith is believing that what Jesus did at the cross WAS ENOUGH! There is NOTHING we can add. The last thing He said before dying on the cross was "Tetelestai!" Which translated means "It IS FINISHED!" This man is a WOLF IN SHEEP'S CLOTHING! RUN!!!! God bless!!!
I do think a lot of churches today imply the following message:
"Christ has saved you from having to pay the punishment of your sins. You have already been given the gift of eternal life so don't burden yourself with the work of sanctification. You don't have to bother with this whole "sinless" stuff. It's not really possible anyway. You are free in moderation to sin when it suits because Christ has paid in full."
If we look at the context of Jesus' teaching in Matthew 5, He is talking about loving your brother and those outside of your own circle of friends and family. And a Greek word study will show that the word translated as "perfect" can also be translated as something close to "mature". So we may be using the word differently than Jesus used it here. We can see from Matthew 25 that the King is concerned with our actions toward others regarding charity (love) and justice. So, be mature in love.
It's possible to be a perfect Christian!
Keep prying for me : "Lord Jesus Christ ,Son of the Living God have mercy on me a sinner" . Can you say this prayer 100 times per day for me? I will appreciate.
my brother God love you so much if you would just study your bible, pastor doug believes what you call the bible and the bible alone. do not fight the spirit but pray i will pray for you too my brother
This sermon sounds like Lordship Salvation.
je voudrais traduire en francais cette predic...comment dois je procéder pour l entendre en francais? Merci
Have a blessed Nativity of our Lord and Savior Jesus Christ 2012!
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Heb.10:14 For by one offering he has perfected for ever them that are sanctified.
Rom.8:29-30 called, justified, sanctified, glorified. All work of God.
Matthew 5:48 How do we accomplish perfection equalling the perfection of God Himself? By faith in Christ who fulfilled the law, and who nailed it to the cross on behalf of all who believe on His name. No Christ did not come to destroy the law- it still applies to all who are outside the grace of God. But believers are already considered perfect.
Where then is boasting? It is excluded. On what principle? On that of observing the law? NO! , but that of faith. For we MAINTAIN that a man is justified by faith APART from observing the law Rom 3:27
So were is grace
He has memorized those verses already..you may check it and find that it is..!!
Can I ask... where in the bible (not church) does it say not to keep the 10 commandments but 9? Scripture please =)
Thread, "Investigative Jud.", I would say this SDA doctrine, I.J., is more demaging than the "Jesuit oath" reletaive to Protestants or even non-SDA-Sabbath keepers, like 7th Day Babtist. Why, it is more subtle than the aforemention "Jesuit Oath:" ? It undermines the basic teaching of redemption and how Jesus finished the work of redemption at the cross when he said, "It is Finished".
Acts 15:5-31 certain sect of pharisees saying it was needful to be circumcised and to COMMAND THEM TO KEEP THE LAW OF MOSES
Acts 21:21-25 As touching the gentiles which believe, we have written and concluded that they OBSERVE NO SUCH THING
All the people's in the world i think that they all knows the bible n they have read also but why they cannot do according to the words of God...the reason is this they dont understand the grace of God...they try to do the laws of God by their own power n try to be perfect by their own power...dont underestimate the grace of God because the grace of God has the to power to help us to do what has written in the words of God.
Hebrews 10:9-14 by which will we have been sanctified through the offering of the body of J.C. once for all.- a perfect passive in the greek- it was done in a moment of time and you weren't involved; it was done by somebody else- done to you and not by you. Once and for all time.
verse 14 for by one offering He has perfected forever them that are sanctified.
We are saved by grace through faith. Period. Eph 2:4-9
Phili.3:6-9 touching the righteousness which is in the law blameless...I do count it but dung that I may win Christ. And be found in him, not having my own righteousness, which is of the law, but that which is through the faith of Christ, the righteousness which is of God by faith.
Rom.3:21-28 BUT NOW the righteousness of God apart from the law is manifested
Rom.4:4-8 God imputes righteousness without works
Rom.10:2-4 But some people choose to work for their righteousness
Gal.2:21
Heb.10:9-14 By the which will we are sanctified through the offering of the body of Jesus Christ once for all.- a perfect passive in the Greek. It was done in a moment of time and you weren't involved; it was done by somebody else- done to you and not by you. Once and for all time.
v.14 For by one offering He has perfected forever them that are being sanctified.
John 3:13 kjv
Gal 2:4,5 because of false brethren..which might bring us into bondage
Gal 3:10-13 the law is not of faith. Lawkeeping is the opposite of faith as a Spiritual goal
Gal 3:16-27 until the seed (Jesus) should come
Gal 4:21 - 5:1 these are the two covenants
Gal 5:4-9 whosoever of you that are justified by the law; you are fallen from grace..a little leaven leavens the whole lump
My Question is, why do the Seventh Day Adventists show a dipiction assuming (Pictures) of Jesus, supposedly a White Man, with long hair? Doesn't the Ten Commandments forbid such a thing, when His Description was a blending in with the people of His Day, and not of any special attraction?
This is with most of the supposed Christian denominations, dipicting pictures of Jesus Christ? This is another Jesus!
Dont compared Grace n Laws of God ....cus even Jesus Christ he didn't come to compare the law n grace he come to save people's from sins
Dougie, hear's what 1John 4: 17 says, Herein is our love made perfect, that we may have boldness in the day of judgement: because as he is, so are we in this world. See that Dougie, I am just like Christ in this world right now. Now everyone read Eph:1: 13-14 so that Dougie can't frighten you. santification simply means to be set apart, its not a process, if you have good and bad apples in a box, you will seperate the good from the bad, but it's not a continuous thing. You have facts but no truth.
What do you mean by the Church of Israel failed ? Are you underestimating Matthew 16,13 " I will build my Church, and the gates of hell shall not overpower." ?
Y it keeps freezing hahaha
The mind/soul is being renewed into righteousness daily. The body will be done away with as it returns to the earth well receive our "glorified " bodies. So remember we are a tri-part being. We are righteous in spirit being made righteous in our mind daily as we crucify the flesh daily until perfection ,all 3 righteous once were gathers as his bride. Be careful of LEGALISM it's subtle and as sinful, as external sinful acts. He expects our best as we accept the blood of Jesus ,not perfection
This life is a sanctification stage, where we learn to obey Jesus. For instance Doug thinks it's a sin to eat pork, so if you were eating pork up until the time of death then according to a Catholic, you'd go to some sort of Purgatory. With the power of Jesus, you can pray for help with sins. If Purgatory was real I would have thought Jesus would explain it to the thief on the cross.
(I like pork, but I suppose if the Bible is saying we are called to stop eating it, then I suppose I should obey, rather than trying to find bible verses about it being okay.)
The title reads: "How Perfect Should a Christian Be?"
Answer: We ought to be perfectly sinless in our lives. But this also applies to the non-believer. Every creature of God ought to be sinless.
Q. How perfect are actual Christians?
A. We are not perfectly sinless; this does not happen until glorification, at the 2nd Advent.
"Ought" never implies ability. "Should" is synonymous with "ought".
"Ought" statements are imperatives; they are not meant to teach us of our abilities.
The scripture itself does not put emphasis on which is first or last as the determining factor of authority. The process of inspiration and writing of the OT is no different than the NT. The reason why the Church of Israel failed is that they raised there ecclesiastical traditions than the scriptures! It could be same with any church today! The WHOLE (old and new) scripture, as the WORD OF GOD, is "scripture inspired of God is also profitable for teaching, reproof, correction. 2Tm 3:16
Rom.3:20-28 Therefore we conclude that a man is justified by faith without the deeds of the law.
Rom.4:4-8 God imputes righteousness without works
Rom.10:1-4 For Christ is the end of the law for righteousness to every believer
2Cor.5:21 that we might be made the righteousness of God in Christ Jesus
Gal.3:1-3 Received ye the Spirit by the works of the law, or by the hearing of faith? Are you so foolish? having begun in he Spirit, are you now made perfect by the flesh?
4) Doug Batchelor I feel sorry for you and for the multitudes that you are MISLEADING.
Phillipians 3:6-9 touching the righteousness which is in the law, bameless. I do count it but dung that I may win Christ. and be found in Him, not having my ownrighteousness, which is of the law, but that which is through the faith of Christ, the righteousness which is of God by faith.
Isaiah 64:6 All our righteousnesses are as filthy rags
2Cor.3;14-17 but their minds were blinded
Rom.11:5-7 a remnant according to the election of grace...the election has obtained it, and the rest were blinded