I actually enjoyed both Penguin and Agatha, two shows I'm really glad we got. One show paying homage to Mare of Easttown and European detective dramas, embracing a more open approach to nudity, violence, and other mature themes. The show’s also pretty open about its LGBTQ themes, which might not be to everyone’s taste. But honestly, the connection between queer culture and witchcraft has been around for decades so it fits. Then there's Penguin, a truly unique crime drama that's naturally drawing comparisons to The Sopranos. I loved the grounded, yet visually captivating take on Gotham City. It feels like a blend of Gothic European (Liverpool, Edinburgh, Glasgow) with New York City, while still carving out its own identity, much like The Batman did. Gotham in this series though leans more towards New Jersey and Brooklyn, which works perfectly for exploring before the Central Gotham. Colin Farrell is fantastic as the Penguin, and I thought the show's beginning was handled really well. Glad we got both shows myself.
Regarding Farrell’s casting, supposedly Seth Rogen and Jonah Hill both turned the role down because they wanted more money than Robert Pattinson. Farrell got the role partly because he was available, but largely because he’s not a prima donna.
@@thesnoopmeistersnoops5167That is very much true. British and Irish actors just turn up and get to work without throwing temper tantrums ala Rogen and Hill demanding more money than Pattinson.
I kinda liked Gotham. Sort of got a little boring and over the top towards the end though. I liked the "Joker" character and I really liked the Penguin interpretation. This looks far more up my street though.
It's the execution. Falcone's daughter _couldve_ been a cringe girl-villain like Alice; but she actually has gravitas and is competent enough to command respect, to where even when she is going off the deep end, you find yourself taking her rant seriously and feeling like the asshole here. She could've been SO annoying but she's a worthy rival to be afraid of. If the whole show is her and Oz trying to out-persuasion-check each other, I'm hooked.
You have to admire the balls on whoever saw this rather unnecessary addition to a pretty good film, a character scene already overlooked - and said "yeap, let's make that a series." and then knocked it out of the park (so far). It shows you can make great stories from existing characters, including obscure ones, without having to warp them for 'modern audiences'.
It’s an example of making a show that has genuine purpose to the overall world rather than making a show for the sake of making a show. Filling out the criminal underworld of this Gotham is a very interesting and useful way to flesh out the story without diluting the movies. The sequel films can only be benefited by good shows rather than suffer from them.
Aye, anything can be a compelling story with good writing. Even characters or events that feel unimportant can be fleshed and developed into something compelling if executed well 🤙
As much as I hated the name shortening from Cobblepot to Cobb to make it more grounded, I have to admit the show really surprised me. Colin and Cristina really shined in this episode. You could see a bit of Tony Soprano in Farrell's acting. The accent, the way he acts, Jesus. Phenomenal first episode.
@@christopherchartier3017 hate when people say this, if it doesn't change anything then why change it? It definitely changed something, we wouldn't be having this conversation for example.
@@DoubleO88 There’s plenty of reasons why writers may want to change something in a story to help fit the theme, especially with an already long existing character. But when it’s a minor change like shortening the character’s name, what’s the big deal? There’s nothing to be upset over it. People who complain over minor changes like this are absolutely nitpicking.
I feel people have been sleeping on Colin Farrell for a long time. His recent nominations for Banshees of Inisherin was a harbringer of his explosion as an actor.
To answer the opening question: it's the Rule Of Andor. Any time you have a spinoff or adaptation that seriously feels like it has zero hype or even reason to exist, there has to be a creative involved who is inspired to bother in the first place. Andor was the most "why?" thing I'd ever heard of, until I saw it and realized that centering on the title character was really just an excuse to sandbox the time of the early rebellion in Star Wars. THEN it all made sense. Odds are that, at some point in the production process of The Batman, someone decided that there was something to this Penguin characterization that would lend itself to a worthwhile dive into criminal elements.
By far, the best 3D prosthetic make-up I've EVER seen, and performed by talent like Colin Farrell AND Clancy Brown? Holy sh!t, this show is going to win awards! Thanks for the upload @TheCriticalDrinker !
Nah, not yet. Tony is one of the most unique and complex characters ever written. He is still the peak of what a morally grey protagonist (villain hero) can possibly be. Walter white comes very very close, but he’s still less nuanced and complex than Tony.
@sullivandmitry1416 Oh for sure, I'm not giving the Penguin that much credit. I'm just watching the Sopranos for the first time right now so it was bizarre seeing discount Tony in a fat suit in Gotham Also, I admittedly have 2 seasons left of Sopranos, but I would probably put Jimmy McGill above both Tony and Walt. Better Call Saul does an exceptional job threading the needle from start to finish. There's never a point where Jimmy feels objectively evil and irredeemable as Walt and Tony often do. That's not to say Walt and Tony aren't complex, I just don't find them as compelling since their motivations are pretty straightforward and they lack serious reflection of their own moral failings. Tony spends a lot of time in therapy, but it's really not complicated: he's a murdered and a cheat and he doesn't care because he wasn't raised to value women and human dignity.
I don't know. I see white man taking black child under his wing + white man naked in a chair being tortured by woman. That's two ticks for the wokebox.
@@louisduarte8763 I'm sorry, I didn't mean to come across as it did have it. I was meaning that I hope the studio doesn't decide to add it in the next installment, if there is one.
It is amazing how much of Colin Farrell you can see through the prosthetics. He doesn't look like a completely different person, rather, a version of Farrell if he WAS a person with the most unfortunate body shape of all time
From what I've read, the Penguin was originally meant to be the opening half of the Batman sequel, but it bloated the film's runtime, so Matt Reeves and WB opted to just make it a mini-series instead. If this is the level of quality that we can expect for the sequel, then I can't imagine what they'll have in store for us next; (I'm beyond excited!)
When you said that was Colin Ferrell, I had to pause the video to look at him, and he's still unrecognizable. THIS is the cool stuff that happens when practical effects are used over CGI.
What’s been working for DC lately is doing Batman Universe content that’s heavily inspired by other movies, directors. Joker, inspired by Scorsese’s King of Comedy and Taxi Driver. The Batman inspired by David Fincher, especially Se7en and Zodiac. And Penguin has a strong Sopranos vibe (he looks like Tony and walks like Vito) and just so happens to be on the same network. It’s been a good model for DC the past 5 years.
You know who could make for a good villains in The Batman sequel? The Ventriloquist. He would work in a more realistic setting, because he's not any kind of superpowered villain, he's a deranged puppeteer who believes his puppet to be a real person.
He nailed Bullseye. I still say, to this day, that Farrell’s Bullseye was better than the MCU Bullseye. People complained that Ferrell was too campy and funny, but that’s the point. Bullseye is basically Joker mixed with Deadshot. Life means nothing to him and anything will make him laugh. He’s not suppose to be dark and brooding like the MCU version.
The show had a really solid first episode. Colin Farrell is really good here. But the performance I might have enjoyed the most was Cristin Milioti as Sofia Falcone. I really hope the next couple of episodes continue to deliver like the Pilot did. It’s beautifully shot and there’s also some good subtle character moments too. Like when Oz refuses to sit in a handicap seat on the train because he doesn’t want to be seen as weak and would rather endure standing up while in pain.
The show beat me over the head with a stick, slapped me in the face and called me a good boy. feels alive man! early 8/10, possible 10/10 if the show keeps going like this!
That moment where Penguin expresses his desire for love, gets laughed at and kills Alberto was the character to a T. It’s what I love about this villain.
I love how everyone in this show has the most cliched version of a New York accent(and btw The Penguim talks like an italian mobster but he is called Oswald Cobb), while it takes place on a ficctional city that looks like a mix of Detroit, Chicago, and San Francisco 🤣
gothams first season made the penguin interesting for me until they went nuts and inserted every batman villain they could get their hands on, the penguin seemed so much more grounded.
I was blown away by the writing in this first episode. Plenty of "DC dark" but also some well written wit that made me chuckle and didn't take itself too seriously.
If Collin Ferrel is in anything, I'm sold. Banshees of Inesherin showed me how much depth he has. Plus, the interview he did about his son showed me how much of a genuinely good person he is.
I could see Tony Soprano and a hint of Silvio in Farrell's performance. My wife loves it which is peculiar cause she didn't care for The Batman. For myself with the way he walks keeps reminding me of the Burgess Meredith edition. Glad to see the Penguin done right. I loved when he shot Alberto Falcone btw. That caught my attention.
Is never been a DC fan but when I watched The Batman I gave it 10/10 because I couldnt find anything what I could dislike. Every single piece was such joy. The craft behind the movie is on a high level and Im happy to see the quality continuity in the penguin
I have to admit, your 100% right! But honestly, I think the Penguin from the Gotham TV show would have been a little better. I actually liked that show.
Glad to hear Daredevil mentioned as a comparison for how dark the Penguin is. I was wondering about that as I watched the review. Daredevil is a cut off point for me. I liked the first season of Daredevil a lot, but I only watched one show a day. So many people loved how dark it was that I was afraid they were going to double down for the second season. As it was, I thought the second season of Daredevil was a bit too cartoonish for my taste.
To be honest as soon as I saw it was connected to The Batman with this version of Penguin I was sold. The Batman was really good and Colin Farrell was great as Penguin so it’s nice to see the good writing and good acting carried over.
What i truly enjoyed about this episode was that it made me underestimate Oz. "Oh he's captured, I bet he's gonna be Sofia's pet for the rest of the show" then the kid pulls through and Oz successfully turns the attention away from him and starts a crime war. His laugh while Alberto's body is discovered is so awesome
Just goes to show how great an actor Colin really is. He made the penguin feel real and relatable. All in all... Great work to the entire team on that pilot... Looking forward to the rest of it.
The Penguin and Peacemaker is enough to tell me that DC can make incredible comic book TV shows. While She-Hulk and Secret Invasion show me that Marvel can't.
I have had the Penguin philosophy of making my boss look good for more than 4 decades. It is a large contributor to my success in rising to the top of my field.
I also did not have high hopes for this one...then saw the opening scene. They did an amazing job creating the look and feel of Gotham and the bringing the Penguin character to life....all within the first 15 minutes. Then used the middle to setup key characters and relationships and closed it out with a pretty surprising yet plausible ending that will get most viewers to come back for more. I am cautiously optimistic they will stay true to what they have created and not go off the rails - fingers crossed !!
Farrell absolutely disappears into the Penguin. I've never been a fan of his because he always felt like Farrell playing Farrell in various movies. But here he completely transforms - and not just physically - into a completely different person. It's quite impressive
After somehow surviving his encounter with Shane, Daryl and Glenn, Randall somehow found himself transported into another universe and secretly murdered the son of a crime boss and got plastic surgery to mirror his appearance. In The Walking Dead, Randall was nobody. But in Gotham, he was a crown prince of crime.
Victors character actually makes sense, as stated having someone who's not affiliated with the families gives him immense freedom to do things behind their backs. Specifically the end of the episode, they have no way to trace that particular stunt back to Oswald as they don't know about Vic
Between this, Jessica Jones ,and Andor, it's curious how the best stories set inside a shared universe are just a great story that happens to take place in a shared universe, rather than trying to completely upend it. Hmmmm
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Collin Ferrel deserves an Emmy for this. His performance has a touch of Tony Soprano, and I love it!
All I see is Tony at times, you can tell he's trying to emulate his voice as well.
Facts lol
Truly
And to channel all that through all that latex - yeah, he's earned a trophy or two
Fr yes
Man, DC really trying to destroy Agatha All Along, even though no one was watching it anyway.
Wow okay
That’s fair
Surprised anyone even still has a disney account
I’d never have heard of that movie if not for drinker, nerdeotic, TheQuatering and all this crew lol.
I like all those guys but still
I actually enjoyed both Penguin and Agatha, two shows I'm really glad we got. One show paying homage to Mare of Easttown and European detective dramas, embracing a more open approach to nudity, violence, and other mature themes. The show’s also pretty open about its LGBTQ themes, which might not be to everyone’s taste. But honestly, the connection between queer culture and witchcraft has been around for decades so it fits.
Then there's Penguin, a truly unique crime drama that's naturally drawing comparisons to The Sopranos. I loved the grounded, yet visually captivating take on Gotham City. It feels like a blend of Gothic European (Liverpool, Edinburgh, Glasgow) with New York City, while still carving out its own identity, much like The Batman did. Gotham in this series though leans more towards New Jersey and Brooklyn, which works perfectly for exploring before the Central Gotham. Colin Farrell is fantastic as the Penguin, and I thought the show's beginning was handled really well.
Glad we got both shows myself.
I still can’t get over the fact that is Colin Farrell in that makeup.
It’s just fucking incredible.
Absolutely insane. I only knew that was him today...and I have seen ads all over london on buses lol
It’s mesmerising
It’s insane lol
Whatever awards they can win for this sort of thing, give them all the awards.
Crazy. You'd have thought he'd have just put on the weight and shaved his head but chose to torture himself instead. Very fitting.
That P Diddy reference got me nearly falling onto the floor from laughter
Love this one
So true lol
@@kenrdickIamarWhy on earth are you commenting on every comment with a minimal response broken into two comments. It’s not deep, it’s weird.
@@HannahKayW it's a bot
A very well timed roast
Regarding Farrell’s casting, supposedly Seth Rogen and Jonah Hill both turned the role down because they wanted more money than Robert Pattinson. Farrell got the role partly because he was available, but largely because he’s not a prima donna.
Jonah would've done great but Seth Rogan? Maybe if it was the 1960s or 1997 campy Batman.
British and Irish actors have a reputation for being reliable, turning up and getting on with it.
@@thesnoopmeistersnoops5167That is very much true. British and Irish actors just turn up and get to work without throwing temper tantrums ala Rogen and Hill demanding more money than Pattinson.
Hell yeah. Farrell is way better than both of them.
Thank God!
The fact that IGN only gave this a 5, proves they’re impossible to please 😂
It just proves that they are woke ®€t@®d$
The only thing that can please them is garbage like the acolyte
They wanted the female penguin from that animated show 😅😅
Wasn’t lame and gay enough for them
5? It's 8 on IGN site
I did not expect this to come out. When I saw the ad I couldn't wait to see the drinker's thoughts about it. Now I can't wait to get home to watch it.
Wow yes
It’s legendary
It’s fantastic, enjoy!
I did not know this was a series, totally thought it was gonna be a movie... Allrighty then.
It's pretty dang good and refreshing as Drinker mentioned, looking forward to the season for sure.
Colin Farrell really went fully Daniel Day Lewis with this one. He’s completely unrecognizable.
Sounds right
Yes fair enough
Hollywood will never be what is used to be. People see through the glitz and glamour and see it for what it is - the modern-day Babylon.
Its nothing more than a glorified grooming gang
Clancy Brown is the force that binds every comic book universe
YES HE IS
I think the 1st DC adaptation I heard him in was as Lex Luthor on Superman: TAS. For a long time, I thought he was black.
I can't think of any role he's done that wasn't great.
But he'll always be The Kurgan to me!
@@louisduarte8763 I think he's supposed to be greek in Superman: TAS.
"Are you feeling it now, Mr. Krabs?"
As The Senate himself would say, "A surprise to be sure but a welcome one."
Oh yes
Very true
based
“He said the thing”
- 👆
The Penguin or Drinker's review?
I was sold in the first 7 minutes, when was talking about the guy they threw a parade for every year.
Me too. I wasn’t sure how I was going to root for a villain. But seeing his vulnerability exposed in a glimpse had me settled in.
This is the show Gotham wanted to be
It’s so true
This is the Gotham we all wanted to see
I kinda liked Gotham. Sort of got a little boring and over the top towards the end though. I liked the "Joker" character and I really liked the Penguin interpretation. This looks far more up my street though.
Let's just hope the superpowers stay away from this one 😤😤😤
True But Gotham wasn't bad tho it got corny after season 2
What a shocking twist - a show with a male protagonist, based on an actual story without THE MESSAGE, is actually.... good? Who would have thought?
Pretty sad that we live in an age where people need boxes checked before getting into something in order to enjoy it. I'm referring to you by the way
@@armandosmith2684 what
It's the execution. Falcone's daughter _couldve_ been a cringe girl-villain like Alice; but she actually has gravitas and is competent enough to command respect, to where even when she is going off the deep end, you find yourself taking her rant seriously and feeling like the asshole here.
She could've been SO annoying but she's a worthy rival to be afraid of.
If the whole show is her and Oz trying to out-persuasion-check each other, I'm hooked.
Yep you echo my own thoughts...well said.
Nah IGN could give she-hulk and echo an 8 but gave penguin a 5
Shows how much credible IGN really is🤣
IGN has always sided more with its Disney overlords over WB. Unless WB promotes the message (like Birds of Prey or Batwoman).
are you fking serious they gave it a 5?
It's what Mauler always says. If its written well, anything could be good.
🤢🤮
Colin Farrell is just unrecognizable.
That first ep was one of the better series openers in recent memory
Definitely.
You have to admire the balls on whoever saw this rather unnecessary addition to a pretty good film, a character scene already overlooked - and said "yeap, let's make that a series." and then knocked it out of the park (so far). It shows you can make great stories from existing characters, including obscure ones, without having to warp them for 'modern audiences'.
Same reason the punisher got his own show. People liked him and wanted to see more.
IDK many people praised Farrel's Penguin even though he was a small part of the movie. I for one fell imediately in love with the character (no homo)
It’s an example of making a show that has genuine purpose to the overall world rather than making a show for the sake of making a show. Filling out the criminal underworld of this Gotham is a very interesting and useful way to flesh out the story without diluting the movies. The sequel films can only be benefited by good shows rather than suffer from them.
I wonder if this wasn’t always part of the deal. I never understood Ferrell getting made up like that for such a small part in the film.
Aye, anything can be a compelling story with good writing. Even characters or events that feel unimportant can be fleshed and developed into something compelling if executed well 🤙
What, no promotion of “THE MESSAGE”? 😜
Which is probably why IGN gave it a 5
@@Linklex7 Just like they did with Transformers One.
It’s pretty clear that they’ll use Victor to promote the message
As much as I hated the name shortening from Cobblepot to Cobb to make it more grounded, I have to admit the show really surprised me. Colin and Cristina really shined in this episode. You could see a bit of Tony Soprano in Farrell's acting. The accent, the way he acts, Jesus.
Phenomenal first episode.
damn thought they just called him Cobb for short, so lame.
I think his name is still Oswald Cobblepot, and people just call him Oz Cobb for brevity...at least in my mind that's the way it is. :)
@@DoubleO88Let’s be honest, it doesn’t really change anything
@@christopherchartier3017 hate when people say this, if it doesn't change anything then why change it? It definitely changed something, we wouldn't be having this conversation for example.
@@DoubleO88 There’s plenty of reasons why writers may want to change something in a story to help fit the theme, especially with an already long existing character. But when it’s a minor change like shortening the character’s name, what’s the big deal? There’s nothing to be upset over it. People who complain over minor changes like this are absolutely nitpicking.
"It takes One Bad Day." - The Joker
Colin Farrel is a superb actor when he gets his teeth into something decent!
He is great in true detective
@@hiamaraldvaan7221 he is!
I really liked In Brugge also 👌
@@ArnoldJudasRimmer.. Excellent in that movie. Not so good in Fright Night, IMO.
Engaging storyline, you say? an intriguing and well rounded female character, you say? A purpose to the protagonist, you say? Count me in.
I feel people have been sleeping on Colin Farrell for a long time. His recent nominations for Banshees of Inisherin was a harbringer of his explosion as an actor.
He deserved a nom for In Bruges as well, he’s been a great actor for two decades but has only recently become a marketable leading man
@@bencarlson4300 In Bruges is one of my favorites. The comedic and serious parts played so well together
His True Detective performance was phenomenal, unfortunately overshadowed by McConaughey’s turn.
The first 7 minutes opening really set the tone of what The Penguin is about. Masterpiece
Tulsa King mixed with the Teletubbies? I’d fucking watch that.
A theory that will blow your mind:
The Teletubbies is in the same universe as lord of the rings
Drinker watched Tulsa King?
Yep, my son and I watched this last night and we loved it. Looking forward to the rest of the season.
To answer the opening question: it's the Rule Of Andor. Any time you have a spinoff or adaptation that seriously feels like it has zero hype or even reason to exist, there has to be a creative involved who is inspired to bother in the first place. Andor was the most "why?" thing I'd ever heard of, until I saw it and realized that centering on the title character was really just an excuse to sandbox the time of the early rebellion in Star Wars. THEN it all made sense.
Odds are that, at some point in the production process of The Batman, someone decided that there was something to this Penguin characterization that would lend itself to a worthwhile dive into criminal elements.
The Penguin show: *being a success*
The cancelled Batwoman movie: "Am I a joke to you?"
BatGIRL movie, nobody was crazy enough to give the failed Batwoman show a movie 😅
yes
Right
Yes lol
Not a joke, a tax write-off that gets us more money this way.
Nothing personal. It's business.
---- Disney, probably.
By far, the best 3D prosthetic make-up I've EVER seen, and performed by talent like Colin Farrell AND Clancy Brown? Holy sh!t, this show is going to win awards! Thanks for the upload @TheCriticalDrinker !
His prosthetics are amazing, he can actually articulate his face unlike erin Moriarty
It's Tony Soprano with a penguin waddle
Wow okay
Finally
and that is a good thing, Tone is the best TV character ever.
Nah, not yet. Tony is one of the most unique and complex characters ever written. He is still the peak of what a morally grey protagonist (villain hero) can possibly be. Walter white comes very very close, but he’s still less nuanced and complex than Tony.
@sullivandmitry1416 Oh for sure, I'm not giving the Penguin that much credit. I'm just watching the Sopranos for the first time right now so it was bizarre seeing discount Tony in a fat suit in Gotham
Also, I admittedly have 2 seasons left of Sopranos, but I would probably put Jimmy McGill above both Tony and Walt. Better Call Saul does an exceptional job threading the needle from start to finish. There's never a point where Jimmy feels objectively evil and irredeemable as Walt and Tony often do. That's not to say Walt and Tony aren't complex, I just don't find them as compelling since their motivations are pretty straightforward and they lack serious reflection of their own moral failings. Tony spends a lot of time in therapy, but it's really not complicated: he's a murdered and a cheat and he doesn't care because he wasn't raised to value women and human dignity.
I have not felt fear of a female villain like Ms. Falcone since Ma from Dredd. Her cold and measured performance stole the show.
It's not always that these modern takes impress The Drinker. Its pretty good
I don't know. I see white man taking black child under his wing + white man naked in a chair being tortured by woman. That's two ticks for the wokebox.
I thought the first episode was fun and exciting. I was very surprised. I did like when the Penguin said "watch it Chrissy, remember Pearl Harbour"
If you "fall off the wagon for the third time... today", then your wagon is a bus 😉
Now this is my day better!
I was happy as fuck seeing Clancy Brown in another production dudes a veteran actor
Actually The Batman was filmed in parts of Scotland. So that explains why it looks like a city ran by alcoholics. Because it is.
Yup. I recognized the Glasgow Necropolis in that movie, after visiting it myself 5 years ago.
I'm hoping they make another Robert Pattison Batman and hope they don't decide to add "The Message."
Supposedly it will be a trilogy
If The Batman had "THE MESSAGE" in it, I didn't notice.
@@louisduarte8763 I'm sorry, I didn't mean to come across as it did have it. I was meaning that I hope the studio doesn't decide to add it in the next installment, if there is one.
It is amazing how much of Colin Farrell you can see through the prosthetics. He doesn't look like a completely different person, rather, a version of Farrell if he WAS a person with the most unfortunate body shape of all time
From what I've read, the Penguin was originally meant to be the opening half of the Batman sequel, but it bloated the film's runtime, so Matt Reeves and WB opted to just make it a mini-series instead. If this is the level of quality that we can expect for the sequel, then I can't imagine what they'll have in store for us next; (I'm beyond excited!)
Whoa, this is insane! Keep it up!
The first episode was excellent. Colin Farrell really shines as Penguin. He’s unrecognizable in the role.
saw one clip , and said if Drinker confirms my optimistic suspicions, I will give it a go.
Just like drinker says "give it a goooooo"
When you said that was Colin Ferrell, I had to pause the video to look at him, and he's still unrecognizable. THIS is the cool stuff that happens when practical effects are used over CGI.
Finally. The prequel series to “The Sopranos”)))
"...telling my AA sponsor that I've fallen of the wagon for the third time... today."
I love this joke.
Loved it. Its refreshing to watch something without 'the message', just sit back and get stuck into good television again.
Moderately successful batman movie is honestly a great start to the franchise. Good vibes!
Colin just blend in the fatsuit.
Imagine if it's like Andor, a fantastic show that nobody asked for and surprised us all.
What’s been working for DC lately is doing Batman Universe content that’s heavily inspired by other movies, directors. Joker, inspired by Scorsese’s King of Comedy and Taxi Driver. The Batman inspired by David Fincher, especially Se7en and Zodiac. And Penguin has a strong Sopranos vibe (he looks like Tony and walks like Vito) and just so happens to be on the same network. It’s been a good model for DC the past 5 years.
He was the best part of The Batman, so fun idea. See how it develops.
I cannot believe that's Collin Farrell. The makeup is incredibly well done. If I wasn't told who it was I never would have guessed.
You never fail to keep it interesting!
You know who could make for a good villains in The Batman sequel? The Ventriloquist. He would work in a more realistic setting, because he's not any kind of superpowered villain, he's a deranged puppeteer who believes his puppet to be a real person.
I've never seen Farrell give a bad performance. He was even good as Bullseye in the Ben Affleck Daredevil.
He nailed Bullseye. I still say, to this day, that Farrell’s Bullseye was better than the MCU Bullseye. People complained that Ferrell was too campy and funny, but that’s the point. Bullseye is basically Joker mixed with Deadshot. Life means nothing to him and anything will make him laugh. He’s not suppose to be dark and brooding like the MCU version.
Unpopular opinion, he was actually acting well in Alexander, it mostly falls to the writing and story pacing why it was a let down.
I had the same thought while watching this. He has only suffered from being somewhat type cast into rolls based on his background or appearance.
Colin Farrell never had the makings of a Varsity athlete.
The show had a really solid first episode. Colin Farrell is really good here. But the performance I might have enjoyed the most was Cristin Milioti as Sofia Falcone. I really hope the next couple of episodes continue to deliver like the Pilot did. It’s beautifully shot and there’s also some good subtle character moments too. Like when Oz refuses to sit in a handicap seat on the train because he doesn’t want to be seen as weak and would rather endure standing up while in pain.
Sofia was excellently acted. A subtle menace to everything she did.
Loved that disabled seat scene, nice when they don’t spell everything out for us.
@@SImonDeLikaeble right. It was so subtle I didn’t notice it until the 2nd time I watched the episode.
A new series based in classic comic book lore that the Drinker actually gives props to. I guess unicorns do exist.
HBO rarely misses. Too bad they can't buy Star Wars from Disney 😢
TLoU Show laughs in corner, let alone the next message full S2.
@rhaegartargaryen9315 yeah point taken but to be fair I said "rarely", not "never"
The show beat me over the head with a stick, slapped me in the face and called me a good boy. feels alive man! early 8/10, possible 10/10 if the show keeps going like this!
I don't know who came up with this video, but he's clearly a genius. And so is the cat👄
IT SURPRISED ME TOO! 😮 This is how you do a show centered on a villain’s backstory…. Colin Farrell is in TOP FORM as Oz Cobb. 🤘🔥 LOVE THIS SHOW!!!!!
That moment where Penguin expresses his desire for love, gets laughed at and kills Alberto was the character to a T. It’s what I love about this villain.
I love how everyone in this show has the most cliched version of a New York accent(and btw The Penguim talks like an italian mobster but he is called Oswald Cobb), while it takes place on a ficctional city that looks like a mix of Detroit, Chicago, and San Francisco 🤣
gothams first season made the penguin interesting for me until they went nuts and inserted every batman villain they could get their hands on, the penguin seemed so much more grounded.
Return the Sausages!
Netflix Daredevil! YES!!! Perfect comparison!
Lets hope it holds up. 👍😀
I was blown away by the writing in this first episode. Plenty of "DC dark" but also some well written wit that made me chuckle and didn't take itself too seriously.
If Collin Ferrel is in anything, I'm sold. Banshees of Inesherin showed me how much depth he has. Plus, the interview he did about his son showed me how much of a genuinely good person he is.
I could see Tony Soprano and a hint of Silvio in Farrell's performance. My wife loves it which is peculiar cause she didn't care for The Batman.
For myself with the way he walks keeps reminding me of the Burgess Meredith edition.
Glad to see the Penguin done right. I loved when he shot Alberto Falcone btw. That caught my attention.
Is never been a DC fan but when I watched The Batman I gave it 10/10 because I couldnt find anything what I could dislike. Every single piece was such joy. The craft behind the movie is on a high level and Im happy to see the quality continuity in the penguin
“…So-actual New York, then…”
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I have to admit, your 100% right! But honestly, I think the Penguin from the Gotham TV show would have been a little better. I actually liked that show.
Glad to hear Daredevil mentioned as a comparison for how dark the Penguin is. I was wondering about that as I watched the review. Daredevil is a cut off point for me. I liked the first season of Daredevil a lot, but I only watched one show a day. So many people loved how dark it was that I was afraid they were going to double down for the second season. As it was, I thought the second season of Daredevil was a bit too cartoonish for my taste.
Before I see penguin "where batman?"
After I see penguin "who batman?"
To be honest as soon as I saw it was connected to The Batman with this version of Penguin I was sold. The Batman was really good and Colin Farrell was great as Penguin so it’s nice to see the good writing and good acting carried over.
No lie, I forget that it's Colin Farrell in makeup...I got drawn in and man this show's first episode was SO good.
That foot reveal hit me like the "Quato" reveal did, LOL.
What i truly enjoyed about this episode was that it made me underestimate Oz. "Oh he's captured, I bet he's gonna be Sofia's pet for the rest of the show" then the kid pulls through and Oz successfully turns the attention away from him and starts a crime war. His laugh while Alberto's body is discovered is so awesome
Great show so far. Really enjoyed it.Farrell is phenomenal.
I didn’t even see Collin Farrell until just now. His head tilted down, eyes dart back and forth under a raised eyebrow. “Holy shit. There he is!!”
Just goes to show how great an actor Colin really is. He made the penguin feel real and relatable.
All in all... Great work to the entire team on that pilot... Looking forward to the rest of it.
Honestly nice to see a new show do good here and Drinker enjoys it. Amazing that its Colin Farrel in that makeup, the artists did an incredible job!
Sony wishes it could do what Matt Reeves is able to.
It’s not the show we needed, it’s the show we deserved
I watched the first episode last weekend, and I was astonished that the script wasted no time in getting down to business. That was freaking awesome.
The Penguin and Peacemaker is enough to tell me that DC can make incredible comic book TV shows. While She-Hulk and Secret Invasion show me that Marvel can't.
NGL, I kinda always thought "The Penguin" would be pretty good.
I have had the Penguin philosophy of making my boss look good for more than 4 decades. It is a large contributor to my success in rising to the top of my field.
I also did not have high hopes for this one...then saw the opening scene. They did an amazing job creating the look and feel of Gotham and the bringing the Penguin character to life....all within the first 15 minutes. Then used the middle to setup key characters and relationships and closed it out with a pretty surprising yet plausible ending that will get most viewers to come back for more. I am cautiously optimistic they will stay true to what they have created and not go off the rails - fingers crossed !!
Farrell absolutely disappears into the Penguin. I've never been a fan of his because he always felt like Farrell playing Farrell in various movies. But here he completely transforms - and not just physically - into a completely different person. It's quite impressive
HBO Max have been really putting out gems compared to Disney+.
Clancy Brown looks like he's barely aged over the last 30 years.
After somehow surviving his encounter with Shane, Daryl and Glenn, Randall somehow found himself transported into another universe and secretly murdered the son of a crime boss and got plastic surgery to mirror his appearance.
In The Walking Dead, Randall was nobody. But in Gotham, he was a crown prince of crime.
Victors character actually makes sense, as stated having someone who's not affiliated with the families gives him immense freedom to do things behind their backs. Specifically the end of the episode, they have no way to trace that particular stunt back to Oswald as they don't know about Vic
You had me at Clancy Brown
Between this, Jessica Jones ,and Andor, it's curious how the best stories set inside a shared universe are just a great story that happens to take place in a shared universe, rather than trying to completely upend it. Hmmmm