Trump had "great ideas"? Guys... get real. Trump won because his malignant racist idiocy APPEALS to other malignant racist idiots. And those people are AT LEAST 40% of the country.
Ironically, Obama did when he ran in 2009. It was all lies as we soon found out but he presented himself as a progressive who would fight the banks and won in a landslide.
It's as if Bernie Sanders was cursed at birth, that he will always speak the truth, but nobody will listen If the dems put themselves behind him in 2016, we would be in a massively different situation right now. Do you remember FDR doing the fucking god work during his presidency, even though he was hated by the upper class of his times? Bernie Sanders is not even just a person with the right ideas. He knows crazy well how to get stuff done. He is the politican we need
The problem is the projection onto the "we". Of course not everyone in the USA is a loud, obnoxious, arrogant "'Murican!" - but the ones who aren't are projecting _their_ personality onto that "we", and don't see how utterly wrong they are in that.
Please remember: the GOP disenfranchised millions of Democrat votes by gerrymandering; voter registration purges right before the election without enough time to re-register; removing married women if they never legally changed their last name when they got married; they have been deceptive to people about which day is voting day, and poll locations, etc. They changed state laws to allow a single MAGA Republican to finalize the state counts, unchallenged. They published false propaganda regarding candidates. And finally, by passing state laws that if the ballots were not finished being counted by the next morning, THEY WERE THROWN OUT. So anyone living in a metropolitan area in those states, with millions of votes, weren't counted. This is how they took the Electoral College: cheating. Remember this. A lot of us didn't actually GET to vote. They made certain of this.
They legally cheated by changing certain state laws, purging voter registrations, and throwing out any ballots not done being counted by morning. Plus much more, but every time i type it all out, my post is deleted.
They legally cheated by changing certain state laws, purging voter registrations, and throwing out any ballots not done being counted by morning. Plus much more, but every time i type it all out, my post is deleted.
This us part of the problem with democrats. No one cares. Majority of the nation isn't gay. This isn't a wedge policy. It's a nice to have if trying to maintain power
I disagre... The 2 partys are not for the people. Its for the ruling class and if the ruling class want more right wing then thats what the party is going to do... U americans need to start ur own party, by the people for the people.
You mean like you guys in the far left. You VOTED for Trump just to spite democrats that doesn’t make you more progressive. It just makes you a closeted Republican! AOC- how’s the ethics investigation on you going? Bernie do us all a favor and STFU and go away. We have empirical evidence data and testimony from working class Americans that have told us that the Democratic Party association with YOU and the Democratic Socialists is the reason why they are moving away from Democrats. You and the democratic socialist of America are equally in bed with our foreign adversaries as much as the far right except for Iran’s proxies who I am sure you receive funding from. Since 2016 we have dealt with your followers directly sabotaging vulnerable people and working class people in the name of your vanguardism and political cult. This has been a giant political temper tantrum from people who couldn’t cope that you don’t have the power to win a presidential election or any of your protégés like AOC. Anyone that has seen your legislative record would know you don’t even have the political power to pass a bill as a senator and you have been one for 20+ years. Democrats proved that they could do in four months what you haven’t been able to do in 8+ years. So how dare you come on here and insult working class and vulnerable people that due to your followers meddling and direct sabotage have lost all their rights this election? We are not stupid Bernie. Believe it or not poor people see past your BS. Stop exploiting us. And by enabling a Trump win you enabled your own political downfall as he and Vance have listed you and AOC is who he believes needs to be taken down in the Democratic Party. Congrats you played yourself. Leave vulnerable people alone! Bernie is literally suggesting feudalism as an economic solution. Poor people aren’t stupid. We don’t want YOU Bernie!
The establishment corporate-owned Centrist moderate AKA Republican-light Democrats, a RIGHT OF CENTER PARTY, will never get the right wing vote as long as there is a party farther right of center than they are.
@@pse2020 That was his point. When the Democratic party sold out to corporate control during the Clinton campaign it was the beginning of the end. You're right though that we need to reclaim the "D" party or form a new one.
Yes, responding to Bernie's criticism instead of all the maga garbage that was being spewed from the orange lie-firehose for the last four years. I'd rather have dems than r's, under these circumstances, but I'd really rather have something altogether different.
Bernie was the first (and really only) politician I've ever felt I could believe really cared for people like me when I was at the time 18 year old. I was gutted when he wasn't the nominee and never will be. He consistently points to how screwed up our institutions are and calls out even other dems. I wish we had 100 more reps like him in congress to spur on chamge.
Bernie has his seat for as long as he wants it. He is revered in Vermont by Democrats and Republicans alike. When he's not in Washington he works tirelessly on the ground advocating for the working class and the disadvantaged. People here think of him more as a social worker than a politician.
The ones saying Kamala went “too far left”, umm NO! She went too far to the RIGHT by embracing Liz and Dick Cheney! The “far left” supported Trump after feeling abandoned, not to mention former prominent Bernie supporters such as Tulsi Gabbard or Joe Rogan also supported Trump.
Ive seen republicans,not many but i have seen some say they would have gladly voted for Bernie over trump,one claimed to be a trump supporter an said he'd have voted for Bernie if he was the democratic nominee because they didn't believe Kamala had any Truth behind what she promised shed do
@@deathringer1003Bernie is actually anti-establishment & a true populist, while Trump is a con-man & fake populist, yet not really anti-establishment.
@@aaronsinger The DNC put their finger on the scale and almost every Bernie supporter I knew at the time voted Trump. They have lost the plot, and the play has continued without them.
Exactly. Between their mass media propaganda system (including hollywood) and their atrocious education system it is no wonder they are reaping the results.
Yeah because you see, you HAVE to vote for us otherwise we'll throw the bodies of Republican policies at YOUR feet. Y'know, the policies that the same Republicans they're giving seats to supported. And we'll put in those same body generating policies in the hopes to attract them even though it literally never has.
He not running for reelection for DNC which is great because guys like him shouldn’t even been running DNC he a rich guy from South Carolina most conservative state that never won election. We need to pay attention to next DNC chairman because that be a sign if they learned.
They're definitely going to shift right. If the DNC chair is saying this, he obviously has learned nothing. I am not certain that growing a left wing movement within the Democratic Party is viable anymore. That said we've seen how well forming a "third" party goes. How do we make this party go the way of the Whigs? I voted for Kamala, but I completely understand the numerous voters that decided that they couldn't vote, or felt it wasn't worth their time.
Have you ever heard people talk politics in break rooms or at parties. Trust me, you're not going to see a viable left-wing movement in this country ever again.
Remember all the talk about the “Justice Democrats?” I don’t think that lasted six months, and that’s being generous. I’m not sure I’d bother to participate in an attempt to “grow a true left” in the Democratic Party…but then, I’m royally sick of US politics, period, right about now. I voted for Harris too (or against Project 2025), but I also understand why people voted for Trump or stayed home.
I remember Biden announcing himself the winner when Bernie was mopping the floor with all of them. Americans have never been able to see the amazing president we could have had. 😑💙
That's where you're wrong, a lot of Americans did see it, it's the establishment that didn't. I live in Louisiana, and I know a lot of Trump supporters who have a soft spot for Bernie Sanders, and I even know a few who said that if in 2016 the election was between Sanders and Trump, they would have a hard time picking and would have to actually think about their vote. The only thing that Bernie Sanders and Donald Trump have in common, is both use populist rhetoric, Bernie Sanders is honest, earnest, and has actual integrity, Trump has none of those, but populism works.
@@Beastrider9 It makes a certain sense, they are willing to vote for anyone who even acknowledges the problem instead of pretending it doesn't exist. Woo the GDP went up and it all went in to the pockets of billionaires the economy's doin' great! Bernie offers a plan to fix it, they like him. Trump lies and says he has a plan to fix it, they like him.
Bernie was in the lead until about halfway through .. then suddenly Biden went from absolute dead last with virtually no support/votes, to first place by a huge margin and Bernie was shown to have lost a ton of votes/support .. does that sound suspicious to you? It did to a few voter watch-dog groups but they were ignored.
My parents would be classified as moderate Republicans. My mom especially would be classified as a never Trumper. She hates him, but guess what. My parents will NEVER vote for a Democrat. Republicans no matter how "moderate" they are will NEVER vote for democrats. That's the difference between Republicans and democrats when it comes to voting. Republicans will always turn out and vote for their people no matter what because winning is everything to them. Neocon Democrats on the other hand would rather lose than embrace their own left base because all that matters to them are their corporate donors who are there no matter the outcome because corporations win when Republicans are in office and win with neocon Dems are in office.
It’s so true I have good friends who are republicans. The ones who aren’t maga reflexively hate the democrat politicians. And there’s not a thing you can say to change their minds. If you show them evidence of bad republicans, they just pivot to “well I guess everyone is bad” and they become cynical.
The establishment corporate-owned Centrist moderate AKA Republican-light Democrats, a RIGHT OF CENTER PARTY, will never get the right wing vote as long as there is a party farther right of center than they are.
During the Great Depression the angst from the people was so high we were close to communist and socialist revolutions. F.D.R. saved democracy with democratic socialist policies. After Reagan screwed us with trickle down economics. Bernie was our chance at another F.D.R. To get us back on track.
FDR wasnt a Dem Soc nor did dem soc policies. He just ran progressive policies, used Keynesian economics, and convince the rich if they didnt comply with him they will end up like the rich in the USSR. Preserving the capitalist system. Doing FDR policies will only lead us back to here. Even with all that the rich still tried to support a fascist to overthrow FDR
But with the difference that there wasnt a more radical threat in Bernie's case. A lot of FDRs efforts were to stave off Fascism as well as Communism. Maybe as we go down that road a little you could get an FDR type reaction again.
Election has always been the voting of the lesser of the two evils, that's just the truth. There's no politician who hasn't dipped his hand in mud, even if those people get into politics, they will do the same thing
@@Othique it is a nasty cycle and the only thing it led to is the fact that we now have to take extra security percasions now. I haven't been to the range in more than a decade. It is clear that the Democrats' strategy is to run against "a mad man threat to democracy" every 4 years who we are supposed to suppress principle to vote against. Clearly they have nothing to offer. Otherwise they would tell us about what is good about them as opposed to what is bad about those others. I can't deal with the "I am bad, I will give you nothing but I am not as bad as him, you have nowhere to go so you need to vote for me, lest he get in power".. I cannot deal with that anyone. Hence forward my politics are unapologetically militant and ruthless.
I agree with Mike 100%. At first I thought her stance on Israel/Gaza was to avoid having AIPAC start fighting against her, but she just kept moving further and further right.
Its honestly crazy because right after announcing Walz there was genuine excitement amongst the majority of liberal voters. Choosing Walz made it seem like they were at the beginning of a shift to the left and it generated so much energy and enthusiasm. In the following weeks they just completely tossed aside that entire shift and the energy that came with it to paint themselves as more moderate and conservative. I hindsight it should have been obvious from the Cheney acknowledgment that Trump would win. Absolute fucking idiocy in the Harris campaign from that point on and it cost us all dearly.
If given the choice between a democrat who cozies up to republicans and a real republican, people vote for the real republican. I notice that Kamala Harris went lower in the polls whenever she would say that republicans support her.
This is why centrism never works, centrism lies and says they attract votes, but they only steal the possibility from the left wing, they take the turn on pendulum swing. They only win when we could have run on burnt toast and won. When a Republican is in charge and the electorate is hungering for something else. Then they promise that nothing will change, then lo and behold nothing changes and the Republican wins next time.
@@GeteMachine Centrism has never attracted voters, the only reason Joe got them is because of the pendulum effect, the thing centrists have falsely stolen credit from every single election that they've won.
I so agree - I have been posting this thought - for a long time - DNC and Hilsey threw Bernie under the bus, in favor of a contest between a "corporatist" and a con... Not so well for the rest of us who knew better - I voted for Bernie in the Primaries, but stupid people voted for hilsey bc "they thought she could win" 😮😮 So, now, we are here...🤬🤬🤬🤬
I will never get off that soap box, every Republican I talk to I flat out tell them Bernie had Trump scared and Bernie would’ve won in 2016. The DNC and the DCCC are finished, they can’t be fixed.
@@meredithheath5272former Sanders NV delegate. Clinton didn't win anything, they blatantly rigged the primary to stop his ideas to use power to restore balance
@@meredithheath5272 there was a leak somewhat recently about some of the conversations going on within the party to undermine Bernie and I can't for the life of me find it. Do you by chance know what I'm talking about?
Don't worry. You won't have to vote anymore now. You'll be having Russian-style elections from here on out. The parliamentary route is dead. Only one path remains. Get organized.
I'm telling you, the working class should start organizing itself. Leaving things up to the Democrats is just going to ensure a revolving door of Trumps minus the fake tan.
@@18booma If anything good does come out of this I hope the dems do grow some balls. I don't think they will though, something else is gonna give first probably. But something WILL give at some point!
I've always thought the liberals were just too big of cowards to actually support progressive policy, but i agree with your assessment more. Its not that they're embarrassed that we want progress. They have contempt for us for daring to ask for it.
@@Kim-dm4yb The democrats are paid a lot of money to not move left. It's not stupidity, it's just greed. They care more about the money than getting elected. All they do is pose as candidates, and sometimes they inadvertently win and have to scramble to throw a "plan" together for running the country.
they learned under Howard Dean but then Obama and Rahm Emanuel came in and PURGED all those people and crippled the state and local parties like the plutocratic piggies they are-- they did this on purpose
People in the US I talk to that refuse to vote, often explain they refuse to do that because of reasons like "There's only a single party with two different name, voting is pointless." And the Democrats talking about shifting right and mimic Trumpian politics, rather than distinguishing themselves from the republican party and shifting left, are proving those people's point.
Heck, I would place a 92 Bernie Sanders in office. That man is the goat. I wouldn't do that only because this man needs to rest. He spent his hole life trying to fight in politics, without ever being listened (sadly)
Honestly the only silver lining in Trump winning. And btw, if Trump actually goes for the heads of the dnc, idgf, they deserved for allowing Trump to win But we already know the dem top heads are not going to change. Unironically at this point the republican are more open to THEIR VOTERS, then the dems. Sadly said rep voters are the most crazy fascist people alive, but damn i wished the dems listened 1/10 of how much republicans listen to their crazy base
I agree with Bernie. This was a shit show and even worse than 2016; at least Hillary won the popular vote. We need someone who isn't afraid to stand up against the donors. I voted for Kamala, but she was far from perfect. I hope the Dems learn their lesson in 2028, if democracy still even exists by then. We need a Bernie 2.0....a true progressive.
They.. won’t. They never do. They’re spineless and quite honestly very wealthy. The only people who might be able to do anything atp is Rashida Tlaib, Ilhan Omar, AOC (if she stops trying to play pattycakes with the DNC) and Bernie (if he’s still kicking..)
Yah if you can’t win against a criminal madman senile sociopath who even his base can’t tolerate listening to at a rally without walking out, then you clearly haven’t listened to what your base is telling you.
I am so tired of being tied to the Democratic party and being outpaced by them in terms of financing during primaries. A genuine Labor party would do our country an incredible amount of good.
@@talyahr3302 yeah. i was thinking about doing that too since my liberal ex-friend said i should campaign for trump, because i didnt act polite enough. so tired of liberals wanting us to be polite. but progressives also annoy me since they dont see the bigger picture. we cant change anything until a very specific law is changed. people seem to think a candidate will magically bow to their demands. um, sorry! the government bends to the corporations. until enough people participate in politics, the government wont see us as a priority. sitting on ur couch instead of voting? okey dokey! corporations, what would u like?
I’m so tired of hypocrites like you- Bernie Sanders is a war profiteering Zionist capitalist. Who had anti-war activist, black liberation activist, and those that spoke out against him ARRESTED. Poor folk and Black folk know our history. You can’t fool us on Bernie. “Sanders may offer slightly different rhetoric than other Democratic candidates or Donald Trump, but his record proves him to be no alternative at all… During the 1980s, Vermont was one of the largest recipients of Defense Department weapons contracts, such s the General Electric Plant in Burlington, which produced gatling guns for death squads. When peace activists planned to block the gate to the GE factory on June 20, 1983, Sanders refused to support them and had them arrested… Even during his “radical period”, Sanders was only opposed to militarism… It is that same rationale that justifies Sanders’ long-standing support for the F-35 fighter jet, which at 1.5 trillion dollars is the most expensive program in military weapons history. Sanders has made no secret that he wants that investment in Vermont, which will provide at least 1400 jobs and $124 million worth of investment… In 1998, Sanders voted for the Iraq Liberation Act and another resolution that supported American measures to overthrow Saddam Hussein. As Jeffrey St. Clair noted for Counterpunch: These measures gave congressional backing for the CIA’s covert plan to overthrow the Hussein regime in Baghdad, as well as the tightening of an economic sanctions regime that may have killed as many as 500,000 Iraqi children. The resolution also gave the green light to Operation Desert Fox, a four-day long bombing campaign striking 100 targets throughout Iraq. The operation featured more than 300 bombing sorties and 350 ground-launched Tomahawk cruise missiles, several targeting Saddam Hussein himself. In voting in favor of these sanctions and interventions, Sanders is a direct accomplice to the deaths they caused… Sanders did not limit his support to American militarism merely to Iraq. In 1996, he voted in favor of the Iran and Libya Sanctions Act, which “imposes sanctions on persons exporting certain goods or technology that would enhance Iran’s ability to explore for, extract, refine, or transport by pipeline petroleum resources, and for other purposes.” In 2001, he voted to extend the Iran and Libya Sanctions Act. In 1998, he voted in favor of extraditing black revolutionary Assata Shakur to the United States in order to face “justice.”… However, the most notorious action of Sanders during the Clinton years was voting in favor of American bombing in Kosovo in 1999. When antiwar activists occupied Sanders’ office in 1999 due to his support for the war, he had them arrested. Sanders’ backing for air strikes in Kosovo led one of his advisers, Jeremy Brecher to resign in disgust, writing: “Is there a moral limit to the military violence you are willing to participate in or support? Where does that limit lie? And when that limit has been reached, what action will you take?” In fact, there is no limit to the amount of violence that Bernie Sanders is willing to support… He voted in favor of H.R. Res. 64, Authorization for Use of Military Force that provided a blank check to President George W. Bush to utilize force against the terrorists responsible. Less than a month later, the United States launched military actions against Afghanistan which over the course of the last 18 years have led to thousands of deaths and devastated the country. The War on Terror marked the beginning of Sanders’ support for the war budget and appropriations to the military in 2002, 2004, 2005, 2006, 2007. and 2008…. When the Bush Administration geared up for the Iraq War in 2003, Sanders did vote against authorizing the use of military force. This is something that Sanders and his supporters point out as reflecting his antiwar record. However, this is a clever bait and switch. Just as American troops put their boots on the ground in a war that would kill hundreds of thousands, Sanders voted in favor of a resolution expressing support for the military. While Sanders has verbally opposed the Iraq War as illegal and wrong, this amounts to nothing but hot air since he regularly votes for military funding. If the war is illegal and wrong, then so is voting to fund it…. Sanders’ support for protecting Israel was not just in terms of words, but by votes to provide billions in military hardware and aid to the Apartheid state in 1997, 1999, 2004. When Hamas won the Palestinian elections in 2006, Sanders voted in favor of imposing sanctions in order to remove them from power. He has also voted for resolutions in favor of Israeli military actions against Lebanon in 2006 and Gaza in 2014. At a town hall meeting on Gaza, Sanders was heckled for defending the Israeli actions, telling the audience to “shut up.” - Not on Our Side: On Bernie Sanders and Imperialism Left Voice Bernie Sanders presents himself as an anti-war candidate. But he has voted in favor of almost every single U.S. military intervention in the last two decades. A look at his record…
A long time ago, during a protest, a wise older person shared a nugget of wisdom with me: "The Democratic party is where progressive policy goes to die." And it's more true now than ever.
I wash my hands of America. I am inventorying stuff and packing things up. I came to the USA several years ago. I served in the military and now watching Americans intentionally choose fascism makes me shake my head. I have no desire to fight for the USA, not when the majority of Americans actively pointed to and demanded a fascist leader. I am done. I think it will take me about a year to tie up any loose ends. I will be poor when I return home, but I will also be free. America won't change unless it collapses and is totally rebuilt.
I expect a lot of people who can to either return to their home country, or to apply for work visas in another country. I'd not be surprised if a lot of smart and educated people would be amongst those who leave.
@@sylverscale I think your are correct. My wife was born and raised in the USA. She is brilliant, and for the first time ever she is now open to leaving the U.S. A definite brain drain will occur in the U.S I believe.
The political system is so corrupt with donor money and lobbyists that you are right the whole system needs to be torn down and these people expelled from politics that’s why the Dems won’t change supporting the workers doesn’t attract big donors.
You are exactly right. The DNC and Hillary are responsible for all of this. We need to work at the state level to unravel our electoral system - not just Electoral College - but HOW we conduct elections. Work to establish preferential voting, where each candidate gets a rating, (not a rank. Ranked choice voting has problems.) It undermines parties and allows more direct input and finer resolution from the electorate. The parties will always be for sale.
There's a "Yes, Prime Minster" episode with a pretty good starting point laid out - ua-cam.com/video/C6b2OT3C9KY/v-deo.html Sure, it's not perfect and needs some work to minimize abuse, but it would certainly a starting point.
I think you're right, Mike. I could feel the enthusiasm draining out of the base once the Republican light strategies started. I'm so far over the democratic party
Yep, it was felt instantly when the diet republican talking points started to come up. And it only got worse. Completely eviscerated the momentum they had with the Walz pick. Pandering to conservatives NEVER works. Do the republicans ever pander left? Fuck no. They double down even harder. And guess what? They win elections by having a rock solid base, which the democrats seem to push away every single time. They never fucking learn!
He's been a senator since 2006, so he's been a senator for 3 races. I would probably look to him for how to win than the DNC chair who lost and has dismissed him.
What I saw here in smallish town Missouri is people were furious about the cost of everything. People also were mad because they thought people were getting things they they didn’t and they were pissed. They said “migrants” were getting free rent, health care, getting free money and they were struggling. They were also made about student loan forgiveness, they paid their loans and it’s not fair others got it when they didn’t. They were pissed that Harris was giving out $25k to people that they felt “didn’t work for it”. Too many thought that blue states were cutting off little boys genitals to turn them into girls. I have a trans son and people just wouldn’t believe me that that isn’t a thing. People also don’t want another war and Biden and Harris were all in for Israel and my younger friends just would not vote for Harris. People also just wanted to hurt people. They are just racist, homophobic, xenophobic pieces of crap and just want to burn everything down. People in the grocery line were crowing about all the liberals offing themselves after the election. Older people were laughing their asses off in public and people were high giving them in public. Then there were the people, homeless people, who were saying that now trumps in charge everything is going to be cheaper on day one, that we were all going to be rich and trump was going to be sending out “them checks baby”. I’m disabled and don’t have the resources to get to a blue state or a big city and it’s so horrific I can’t express it properly to hear my fellow citizens just plain evil and self centered mess, the utter lack of care for others and their glee at the thought of violence and democrats are going to learn the wrong lesson and move to the right and lose my vote for the first time in 50 years.
Bernie would have won. It would have been VERY slim, but he would have won in 2016. He stopped the 2020 campaign because he didn't want any of us working for him to get sick with covid. I will stan bernie forever. Sometimes we disagree, but he's a good man at his core and root.
@@JonathanB138 sellout to whom? biden adopted some of bernie's policies, policies that bernies been fighting to pass for years. do u know how much that pissed off the establishment?! do u not know how powerful the establishment is? one guy cant fight them alone. had bernie not played nice, both parties would have never passed anything he wanted. he had to concede.
I blame voters. I shared information from Robert Reich with my cousin because he was voting for trump for his "economic plan." When i sent him something from Robert Reich, he said,"What is this CNN propaganda you sent me?" Like, WTF. Anything i send would be Humanist Report, Farron Balanced, or like TYT. I should have known better since this was his 3rd time voting for trump.
Your cousin voted for Trump 3 times. You can't blame voters using the Trump voter as your basis... the key are the people who feel like there's no point to voting. The ones who see little to no difference and are reeling economically regardless. Trump has the same base he always has. But you're not gonna get anyone standing with you if they're struggling and you're bragging about how great the stock market is doing.
Yes I was 36 years old when I was introduced to Bernie hos first go around and I cried the 1st time around when they screwed him. The 2nd time I was just pissed!
My opinion on why Dems lost: first and foremost 70 million people voted for racism, sexism and fascism. Secondly, Dems have repeatedly shown that they do not take the concerns of their voter base seriously over the wants of their biggest donors.
That second point is heartbreaking. Harris proved extremely popular right after the start of her campaign, when she and Tim Walz called Republicans "weirdos" and presented themselves as more dynamic than Biden. Seeing her campaign devolve into the usual appeals to the fabled "moderate conservative" while her poll numbers visibly tanked was baffling.
Don't forget to mention the dems trotted out a woman candidate when the opposition is trying to take womens rights away. Proving that people are not ready for a female president. One side doesn't even see women as equal people that should be able to vote. That will not swing many voters even if they don't like trump.
This is the best opinion I've seen on this. Rights were taken from women yet the majority of white women voted for Trump. It is a mix of bigotry and the DNC not embracing their base.
How they treated Arab Americans, made that obvious. Trying to snuff out, left wing propositions to keep capitalist "options" instead and brush off the people that loathe their "nothing will change" motto. Neo-Liberal arrogance always brings fascist populism in.
I am biological boy . Who played on a girls team. Because girls had no one on the team. Who played goalie position for hockey. So I went in to play for them. So they can play the sport they loved. No one saw anything wrong with that. This was 1990s to 2000. Man , people brains have absolutely melted.
Similar situation here. I’m a cisgender woman and I played on a boys baseball team as a kid. This was in the 90’s. Then, in the early 2000s, my college soccer team didn’t have a goalkeeper coach due to lack of funding. So, for a season, I practiced with the men’s team and trained with their coach. Later on, I wanted to learn how to box, and I sparred against men all the time. Literally no one cared. No one said a word or blinked an eye at ANY of this. No one talked about how I was “going to get hurt” or how it was “so unfair for boys to compete against a girl.” And this all happened in Florida! Conservative Florida! 😂 What this tells me is that the whole “unfairness in sports” narrative is just newly invented propaganda meant specifically to demonize transpeople and portray cisgender women and girls as weak and inferior. (Edited because I forgot to add something.)
Same but from the different gender. I played Korfbal ( a Dutch mixed gender sport, which is kinda like basketbal,but you can't dribble with the ball) . Because we were low on boys I played against boys for two years because else our team couldn't play. No one was weird about it, and I never felt at a disadvantage
Meanwhile you have David freaking Brooks of the New York Times FINALLY admitting that maybe the Dems need to do a Bernie and make moderates uncomfortable!
We the people are the ones who never learn. We keep voting these politicians in office, while they get wealthy and we get poorer. The Corp/Wealthy give them millions of $$$$, while we can only give them our vote. That's the only time we seem important to them.
@@colbybrand5326it'll never work, voting a third party will never get off the ground. But we need to do is completely change the Democratic party, is there some doing it like AOC and the other Justice Dems, but they can only do so much when both the party they are part of and the Republicans are in the pocket of the rich.
@@colbybrand5326it'll never work, voting a third party will never get off the ground. But we need to do is completely change the Democratic party, is there some doing it like AOC and the other Justice Dems, but they can only do so much when both the party they are part of and the Republicans are in the pocket of the rich.
You speak so much truth here. "We're rude, we're loud, we're stupid" "SOME introspection?!" Dem Party leadership needs to resign en masse and make the way for those who will listen to what workers want and need. It's always "the economy, stupid". However, since they're all beholden to their corporate masters, we'll continue this stupid cycle of leaning further right to win over "moderate Republicans/independents" and shocked Pikachu face when they continue to lose. This country DESPERATELY needs a viable left third party that focuses on the non-10% and realizes that economics rule EVERYTHING. If young people can't afford groceries, how is telling them to worry about climate or home ownership or fascism or whatever in the future going to win votes? This is so frustrating to watch and so disappointing for my kids' future.
@@doomsdayrabbit4398There needs to be another protest movement like Occupy Wall Street, but the focus must be entirely on campaign finance and anti-corruption. Don’t exclude academic socialists, but don’t let them be the focus like happened with Occupy Wall Street. The message needs to be focused, angry, but PRACTICAL. No artsy kumbaya street anarchist BS. The focus also needs to be attracting a large angry crowd, not annoying disruption stunts by small groups of people. The purpose needs to be to get the media’s attention at all costs. The problem is that if workers movements do not call out corruption, we get outflanked by the right. Look at RFK. I think he’s a kook, especially the anti-vax shit, but the message lands. Filling the administrative state with idiotic unqualified MAGA kooks will just cause dysfunction but the corporate corruption is 100% real. Unions don’t have the funds to compete with corporate donors. They do have the funds to organize protest movements if they work together. Things are more difficult with the potential of the Trump administration sicking jack-booted thugs on protesters. The thing is, if the left don’t play into their hands with rioting or goofy stunts that only annoy people, the optics becomes impossible. How can they possibly try to physically shut down a movement using the exact same “drain the swamp” rhetoric they use?
@@doomsdayrabbit4398 hard to do it when we dont have the resources. now that corporations have their guy, he will make sure the poor get poorer and the rich get richer. biden's presidency has been a blissful four years. ive seen so many people come out of poverty. even tho they complained about grocery and gas prices, they somehow had enough money to buy a new car, new gadgets, new furnitures, and have bbq cookouts almost every weekend. now we can all look forward to mass deportations, high tariffs, and lower wages. not enough people care about politics. thats why the government doesnt gaf about the people.
You nailed it! I voiced concerns on Twitter and was EVISCERATED by the fellow Democrats as being either a MAGA or GOP plant, posing as a Democrat. The two party system in the electoral college needs to be scrapped. Thanks for having the courage and tenacity to say what so many of us have been feeling!
Omg, same thing happened to me. I was called a troll when I criticized Harris for partnering w the Cheneys to try to gain Republican support & pushing it further to remind them she is against Medicare for All. Always appeasing the Republican supporters. There are dumb people on the left, too. They saw her as wanting to help both sides. Its absolutely disgusting. I mean, they are obsessed w Liz Cheney (war monger & horrific person) due to 1/6 & it's nauseating. They want her in Harris' administration. I swear we are the dumbest country in the world.
how do u scrap a two party system? theres plenty of third parties whove been around for years and they havent gotten their people to win any significant amount of seats. i dont know what u said to make them think ur maga, but i know plenty of democrats who want to get rid of the electoral college, but that cant happen unless theres a democrat president with both house and senate controlled by democrats. its kinda strange how a nobody like urself who hasnt put in any work into a political career, can just go in and tell people to change an already established system. its not that easy.
Out of Trump, Harris, J.D. Vance, and Walz, Walz was the only one with an overwhelmingly positive approval rating, and they basically told him to shut up because he was being "mean" by calling the other side weird.
Two things can be true. Democrats have their part of the blame and those who voted Trump have theirs. I don't think we should act like these people are victims just because they're "working class". They still chose Trump. We're acting like they're animals who the dems forgot to close the pen to and got out. They're humans that can be held accountable for bad decisions just like the rest.
Zelenskyy was a comedian too before ascending to the presidency in Ukraine because their political establishment was f*cked as well, so it’s not like there’s no precedent for it. On a sadder note, I hope Zelenskyy has practiced kissing up to Trump. Perhaps if he flatters him enough Trump won’t screw Ukraine as badly as they are going to.
I'm a Boomer. Everyone in this mess has let me down. Absolutely everyone. *Now the fugging system WILL be torn down. Because voting against a fascist WAS NOT ENOUGH, was it?*
I voted for kamala and tim. I like tim better, but voting against fascist is enough for me , yet, all these comments i agree with. And i will tell you, Dem party had populist in bernie that was very popular.. and my friends from those times , voted Rfk, they would not vote for dems, one person said he wont vote.. etc etc. Dem party ignores populist ideas and their voter base.. I suspect its all about the big corporate donors.. as to why Dems always ignore Progressives and populist ideas they should know people want.
@@rachael_grey People who voted for the old white guy didn't vote for the Black/brown woman. This behaviour is so mysterious and baffling in the USA. Totally inexplicable. Guys... come on.
This was the first election I ever voted in and I gave all my faith to Kamala and the Democrats despite their hatred for progressives. After this, I won't be registered as a Democrat again. It has devolved into the Republican Party at this point and I will not vote for them until they change their tune.
I agree with nearly everything you said, Mike. But the closing was far too pessimistic. It's true that we all need to be in survival mode, but we should never stop fighting and never stop hoping. The moment you do then evil has truly won. Humans are resilient. People have persevered and conquered evil in the face of bleak odds before and we can do it again. The struggle towards a better and more equal society has never been linear or easy. All is not lost. If democrats will not see reason then it is up to us to use every tool at our disposal to gain the representation we deserve.
We need to get Bernie to start the Populist Party, NOW!!! Now is the time. So many people are frustrated and dejected. A new party with him as the leader, even if he doesn’t end up as the candidate, would blow up SO FAST! We have to give America an actual option and a chance to have a real voice.
Yes replace all the establishment democrats from safe democrat deats. In 2026 democrats will have a great chance to win the house and a slim chance to win the senate. Progressive tea party movement.
I am a BIPOC BOOMER. Voted "non-designated electors" in the primary to send a message to Biden about GAZA. Emailed my DEM reps non-stop, and all I heard back was "On October 7th..." Literally. EVERY. SINGLE. TIME.
Fr. Trans as well, it really feels like all we have are ourselves. I'm going to be doing my best to meet with more trans people irl, we all need to start locally grouping up and making connections with eachother
@ we all need to do that for everyone who’ll be persecuted by Trumps reign. We stand together or die divided. I’m proud to stand with my trans siblings even if I’m cis because I’d rather be trans than a bigot.
Democratic consultants got a taste of Billion dollar campaign ..and they are not ever going to change that strategy.. they are going to milk the fascist suffering for all they can. They are loving it!
Yeah... I'll believe the part about how "this was the last election" when the drones repeating that can prove that the DNC isn't still fundraising for another... and I _cannot believe_ the implications of what I just fucking said...
My best man at my wedding is Puerto Rican - his WHOLE family voted Trump and honestly being from Long Island be growing up among many Latinos and Puerto Ricans and Dominicans in particular a lot of the don’t give a @@@@ about coarse language. They care about cost of living and inflation etc. They incorrectly thought Trump would be better on the economy and this is why they broke for Trump. Democrats need to figure out how to reach these people or we are @@@@@@@@@@@ed
When hes stopped and searched and has to prove his citizenship and suffer the insult from some dirty cop you'll have to revisit him and ask him how he feels now.
Trump was bad for the economy and he will be even worse now (zero workers protections, higher health insurance costs, higher rents, etc.). Puerto Ricans without a modicum of self-respect, that is all they are.
Why is no one talking about the Forward Party? I'm not saying they're anti-establishment, but they're the only organization that is pushing for better representation through open primaries and ranked choice voting. I say we strengthen that movement.
Bernie Sanders is a war profiteering Zionist capitalist. Who had anti-war activist, black liberation activist, and those that spoke out against him ARRESTED. Poor folk and Black folk know our history. You can’t fool us on Bernie. “Sanders may offer slightly different rhetoric than other Democratic candidates or Donald Trump, but his record proves him to be no alternative at all… During the 1980s, Vermont was one of the largest recipients of Defense Department weapons contracts, such s the General Electric Plant in Burlington, which produced gatling guns for death squads. When peace activists planned to block the gate to the GE factory on June 20, 1983, Sanders refused to support them and had them arrested… Even during his “radical period”, Sanders was only opposed to militarism… It is that same rationale that justifies Sanders’ long-standing support for the F-35 fighter jet, which at 1.5 trillion dollars is the most expensive program in military weapons history. Sanders has made no secret that he wants that investment in Vermont, which will provide at least 1400 jobs and $124 million worth of investment… In 1998, Sanders voted for the Iraq Liberation Act and another resolution that supported American measures to overthrow Saddam Hussein. As Jeffrey St. Clair noted for Counterpunch: These measures gave congressional backing for the CIA’s covert plan to overthrow the Hussein regime in Baghdad, as well as the tightening of an economic sanctions regime that may have killed as many as 500,000 Iraqi children. The resolution also gave the green light to Operation Desert Fox, a four-day long bombing campaign striking 100 targets throughout Iraq. The operation featured more than 300 bombing sorties and 350 ground-launched Tomahawk cruise missiles, several targeting Saddam Hussein himself. In voting in favor of these sanctions and interventions, Sanders is a direct accomplice to the deaths they caused… Sanders did not limit his support to American militarism merely to Iraq. In 1996, he voted in favor of the Iran and Libya Sanctions Act, which “imposes sanctions on persons exporting certain goods or technology that would enhance Iran’s ability to explore for, extract, refine, or transport by pipeline petroleum resources, and for other purposes.” In 2001, he voted to extend the Iran and Libya Sanctions Act. In 1998, he voted in favor of extraditing black revolutionary Assata Shakur to the United States in order to face “justice.”… However, the most notorious action of Sanders during the Clinton years was voting in favor of American bombing in Kosovo in 1999. When antiwar activists occupied Sanders’ office in 1999 due to his support for the war, he had them arrested. Sanders’ backing for air strikes in Kosovo led one of his advisers, Jeremy Brecher to resign in disgust, writing: “Is there a moral limit to the military violence you are willing to participate in or support? Where does that limit lie? And when that limit has been reached, what action will you take?” In fact, there is no limit to the amount of violence that Bernie Sanders is willing to support… He voted in favor of H.R. Res. 64, Authorization for Use of Military Force that provided a blank check to President George W. Bush to utilize force against the terrorists responsible. Less than a month later, the United States launched military actions against Afghanistan which over the course of the last 18 years have led to thousands of deaths and devastated the country. The War on Terror marked the beginning of Sanders’ support for the war budget and appropriations to the military in 2002, 2004, 2005, 2006, 2007. and 2008…. When the Bush Administration geared up for the Iraq War in 2003, Sanders did vote against authorizing the use of military force. This is something that Sanders and his supporters point out as reflecting his antiwar record. However, this is a clever bait and switch. Just as American troops put their boots on the ground in a war that would kill hundreds of thousands, Sanders voted in favor of a resolution expressing support for the military. While Sanders has verbally opposed the Iraq War as illegal and wrong, this amounts to nothing but hot air since he regularly votes for military funding. If the war is illegal and wrong, then so is voting to fund it…. Sanders’ support for protecting Israel was not just in terms of words, but by votes to provide billions in military hardware and aid to the Apartheid state in 1997, 1999, 2004. When Hamas won the Palestinian elections in 2006, Sanders voted in favor of imposing sanctions in order to remove them from power. He has also voted for resolutions in favor of Israeli military actions against Lebanon in 2006 and Gaza in 2014. At a town hall meeting on Gaza, Sanders was heckled for defending the Israeli actions, telling the audience to “shut up.” - Not on Our Side: On Bernie Sanders and Imperialism Left Voice Bernie Sanders presents himself as an anti-war candidate. But he has voted in favor of almost every single U.S. military intervention in the last two decades. A look at his record…
Why vote for Republican light when you can vote Full Republican. The middle or center right voterbase that is going to save the day is a myth. Democrats are just pissing off their Core base to attract some people who don't want to join and don't respect them. Newsflash learn about the core base of your own Party and how to keep them and grow from there. I'm afraid though the Core is leaving or just canceling out.
It’s time to just leave the democrats. They aren’t a left party, much less a center left or even center right party anymore. They’re just right wingers now. It’s time to leave and form a new party
The problem is the Democrat and Republican Parties are the only viable parties. Third parties have the system completely rigged against them that prevents them from being able to win elections.😓
The Dems can't seem to unify when it's needed they can't get messaging out effectively. They don't know how to operate in this new era and all their grandstanding about running a good campaign, we did the best we could and we'll get them next time is not going to change the fact that they are actively hurting Americans through their incompetence. They are more loyal to the donors than the people they pretend to represent
@@sorejack I’m sorry… but that’s kinda dumb. You’re basically saying, “I’d rather stick my head in the mouth of a leopard than square off against a bobcat that’s posing as a leopard, because being eaten alive by the real thing is preferable to getting scratched by a poser.”
I'm so done with Democratic Party bullshit. The Corporates don't need two parties to represent them. These Dem hacks can join the GOP or clean up their acts.
He should have never been put in charge of the DNC in the first place. I don't understand why they keep promoting these politicians that lose their elections. Get people who have won and know how to win.
I watched Bernie for years, even when he was on Real Time and Bill encouraged him to run for President. Later, Maher lambasted him for running as well as Elizabeth Warren... I stopped watching. We the People
I'm ashamed to say i voted for Harrison in 2020. Not because i like him but because I despise Lindsey Graham. The fact that he became DNC chair after losing is really making me start to think that people like him are just controlled opposition, weak pathetic little man.
When Kamala Harris declared; I am, Yes, I am a Capitalist (a crystal-clear sound bite and echo to her donor base and buzz word for me), that is at the point when I knew exactly what, we the people who are the progressive left, were dealing with. I was on board up until that moment, although I had my share of doubts weeks beforehand. Kamala did not represent me. I am not a capitalist. I am a realist and a feminist of the working class, to be more precise, of the lower working class and when a single independent woman hears an elitist entitled feminist say I'm a capitalist, it reverberates. It is defined by; I love my status quo class and privilege and my windfall of profit and as long as I bend to the will of the bourgeoisie, I've got the win in the bag. IOW, Kamala is working for team DONOR when she declares; I am a Capitalist. There are two classes/groups of feminists: one is Kamala, the other is me. A working-class single mother vs an establishment elitist Queen entitled upper class echelon. I voted Democrat to put a stop to trump, period the end. I have felt for some time now this is a "One Party" system, even going as far back as the Clintons in the 90"s which even then had devastating effects on the working class. Bernie was our last line of defense and chance at a vision and a dream, to clench The American Dream that has been ripped away from millions and will likely do same to their children. That dream died with Reagan. I am a child of Reaganomics. Yes, Gen-X was the original and first fucked with generation to be gutted by the establishment one-party system In only forty short years, I have lost everything near and dear to me because of greed and the corporation nation donor base that has successfully hijacked the one thing that is precious to us: our vote. Reagan is the seed that gave us this orange malfeasance felon fascist dictator and his MAGA cult.
@@scorpiousmagus actually I don’t think they’d go that extreme not only would people start to riot and become dangerous but also you can’t make money if you have no one to tax
@@stargazer-elite I m going off of an interview where he was basically saying he was going go max austerity and it was going to get really bad and then it would get good. I mean maybe he won't who knows. He's a big fan of Javier Milei who is running his country into the ground. Plus. You are thinking like a person with a brain. Elon thinks he's brilliant but he just steals people's stuff.
@@scorpiousmagus To be fair, "... thinking like a person with a brain..." is, arguably, also in play when one trusts those interviews too much: Isn't Elon kind of prone to running his mouth and then changing his mind? (I mean, that's a weak reassurance even if true, but it's at least... a thought?)
@@stargazer-elite Damage is done. Nothing can be done before 2026. By that time democratic party have to go through extensive reform. They will do what they please so stop speculating and prepare for 2 years of chaos.
@ I’ve been a green and independent voter for my whole life. Never ever voted Labor or Liberal ☺️ For all the issues I have with Australia, I’ll take our voting system before America’s 💩 show.
It's so basic. In order to lead you need to present BOLD IDEAS. Medicare for All. Paid Maternity Leave. Subsidized Child Care. If she had led with these policy initiatives instead of the paltry 6k child tax credit and upgrade to Medicare to help with elder parent care. It was going to take more than that. MUCH more than that. But the democratic party won't get it. The idiots will keep moving to the right. That is why we need a true candidate to really shake things up.
Except that Americans continually don't support those initiatives. They voted for a convicted felon, white supremacist, sex offender. He didn't sway them with "bold ideas." Guys, come on. What is this? Just abandon the fantasy -- the USA is filled with BAD PEOPLE, who DON'T CARE about helping others or making a better world.
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Democrats literally need a fighter who will present great ideas. Campaigning with Liz Cheney and not Bernie is stupid af.
Campaigning with Liz Cheney and not Shawn Fain from the auto union is so baffling.
Trump had "great ideas"?
Guys... get real.
Trump won because his malignant racist idiocy APPEALS to other malignant racist idiots. And those people are AT LEAST 40% of the country.
You guys didn't condemn Dick Cheney's endorsement . You gladly accepted it as a win. Own up to it
Exactly. They showed themselves to be Republican Lite, but they don’t want to admit it.
There are plenty of those in fact. The dems keep trying to kill the fighters with great ideas.
We need a candidate that talks about billionares the way Trump talks about immigrants.
yes
Ironically, Obama did when he ran in 2009. It was all lies as we soon found out but he presented himself as a progressive who would fight the banks and won in a landslide.
Democrats don't have such a candidate
Extreme, with love...
@@sabinasb2445 Me. I'll do it.
There isn’t “a reason.” There are a thousand reasons. Bernie’s right about which reasons could have overcome all the bigotry and 995 other factors.
They hate him because he speaks the truth.
Jesus of Nazareth type shit
Pretty Much, Yeah?!...
So true
They hate him because he helped elect Trump in 16, he refused to vote for Russian sanctions, and he's a completely ineffective legislator.
It's as if Bernie Sanders was cursed at birth, that he will always speak the truth, but nobody will listen
If the dems put themselves behind him in 2016, we would be in a massively different situation right now. Do you remember FDR doing the fucking god work during his presidency, even though he was hated by the upper class of his times? Bernie Sanders is not even just a person with the right ideas. He knows crazy well how to get stuff done. He is the politican we need
I am shocked, SHOCKED, I say, that the establishment would chastise a legitimate criticism.
Bernie ain’t wrong.
SHOCKED I tells ya.
Bernie is wrong. And so is what's his name probably. I didn't bother to listen because I have heard it all before.
SHOCKED!
Well, not that shocked.
She only offered for the male abortion and legalize pot, while party embraced men as being 'toxic
And where the FUCK was he before the election?? Shilling for Harris
About that last point. We here in Europe kept hearing "This is not who we are".
Sorry - but it is. It clearly is exactly who you are.
I am gutted. I'm afraid for half of us. I'm afraid for my grandchildren and great grandchildren.
I have one idea how to combat this.
The problem is the projection onto the "we". Of course not everyone in the USA is a loud, obnoxious, arrogant "'Murican!" - but the ones who aren't are projecting _their_ personality onto that "we", and don't see how utterly wrong they are in that.
Please remember: the GOP disenfranchised millions of Democrat votes by gerrymandering; voter registration purges right before the election without enough time to re-register; removing married women if they never legally changed their last name when they got married; they have been deceptive to people about which day is voting day, and poll locations, etc. They changed state laws to allow a single MAGA Republican to finalize the state counts, unchallenged. They published false propaganda regarding candidates.
And finally, by passing state laws that if the ballots were not finished being counted by the next morning, THEY WERE THROWN OUT. So anyone living in a metropolitan area in those states, with millions of votes, weren't counted. This is how they took the Electoral College: cheating.
Remember this. A lot of us didn't actually GET to vote. They made certain of this.
They legally cheated by changing certain state laws, purging voter registrations, and throwing out any ballots not done being counted by morning. Plus much more, but every time i type it all out, my post is deleted.
They legally cheated by changing certain state laws, purging voter registrations, and throwing out any ballots not done being counted by morning. Plus much more, but every time i type it all out, my post is deleted.
Bernie stood for gay rights before it was cool.
This us part of the problem with democrats. No one cares. Majority of the nation isn't gay. This isn't a wedge policy. It's a nice to have if trying to maintain power
He’s real -he should’ve run in 2016 or EVEN now, his mind is just fine still.
@@anaalicia5029he did try to run in 2016.
@@JediDrPepper049 oh yes. He should’ve won. I don’t hate Hillary but it could’ve been so different.. a chance, but still
@@JediDrPepper049 (it’s been a long nine years! I’m starting to forget lol)
"We'll become identical to the Republicans, surely that will get us elected." Absolute morons.
I disagre... The 2 partys are not for the people. Its for the ruling class and if the ruling class want more right wing then thats what the party is going to do... U americans need to start ur own party, by the people for the people.
You mean like you guys in the far left. You VOTED for Trump just to spite democrats that doesn’t make you more progressive. It just makes you a closeted Republican!
AOC- how’s the ethics investigation on you going?
Bernie do us all a favor and STFU and go away. We have empirical evidence data and testimony from working class Americans that have told us that the Democratic Party association with YOU and the Democratic Socialists is the reason why they are moving away from Democrats. You and the democratic socialist of America are equally in bed with our foreign adversaries as much as the far right except for Iran’s proxies who I am sure you receive funding from. Since 2016 we have dealt with your followers directly sabotaging vulnerable people and working class people in the name of your vanguardism and political cult. This has been a giant political temper tantrum from people who couldn’t cope that you don’t have the power to win a presidential election or any of your protégés like AOC. Anyone that has seen your legislative record would know you don’t even have the political power to pass a bill as a senator and you have been one for 20+ years. Democrats proved that they could do in four months what you haven’t been able to do in 8+ years. So how dare you come on here and insult working class and vulnerable people that due to your followers meddling and direct sabotage have lost all their rights this election? We are not stupid Bernie. Believe it or not poor people see past your BS. Stop exploiting us. And by enabling a Trump win you enabled your own political downfall as he and Vance have listed you and AOC is who he believes needs to be taken down in the Democratic Party. Congrats you played yourself. Leave vulnerable people alone!
Bernie is literally suggesting feudalism as an economic solution. Poor people aren’t stupid. We don’t want YOU Bernie!
The establishment corporate-owned Centrist moderate AKA Republican-light Democrats, a RIGHT OF CENTER PARTY, will never get the right wing vote as long as there is a party farther right of center than they are.
They don't want change from the left, but will chase after change following the right.
@@pse2020 That was his point. When the Democratic party sold out to corporate control during the Clinton campaign it was the beginning of the end. You're right though that we need to reclaim the "D" party or form a new one.
I will never FORGET Bernie being CLOSED OUT by Democrats. I will always be a Bernie HO .
Well said.
Me too
The fact that they feel the need to respond to Bernie Sanders is why they lost.
Exactly 💯
Yes, responding to Bernie's criticism instead of all the maga garbage that was being spewed from the orange lie-firehose for the last four years. I'd rather have dems than r's, under these circumstances, but I'd really rather have something altogether different.
@@kshafer6220 If only Bernie could make his own democratic party..... But $$$$$ and the system, I guess.
technically, listening to and embracing is a response... but i get what you mean. and you arent wrong.
Actually, not listening to Bernie Sanders is why they lost. (AGAIN)
Bernie was the first (and really only) politician I've ever felt I could believe really cared for people like me when I was at the time 18 year old. I was gutted when he wasn't the nominee and never will be. He consistently points to how screwed up our institutions are and calls out even other dems. I wish we had 100 more reps like him in congress to spur on chamge.
Agreed
Solid agree as a Gen Z person
me too
Same
we need money to run a damn campaign. but its going to be 100x harder now.
Dems looking in the mirror "I think I should be more FASCIST".
It's only fascism when Republicans do it apparently.
The guy who got beat by Lindsey Graham is gonna try to talk smack to Bernie 😂😂😂😂😂
I would never vote for Trump for ANY reason.
@@aaronsinger And Hillary Clinton. Because the Democrat party repeatedly filters out Bernie. Because old Democrats don't think he can win.
@@aaronsinger Ah, but Kamala lost to Trump!
And Hillary *also* lost to Trump!
@@derekrequiem4359 even Hill managed the popular vote win, iirc.
@@aaronsingerno backstabbing no collusion no media black out Biden did it purely out of his own skill 😂😂😂 say it
He doesn’t need to play nice anymore. He’s not running again and what else is there to lose, the worst case scenario has happened.
He should have never played nice. Look at Trump. Twice elected. Definitely not for being nice
He should have never played nice. Look at Trump-twice elected. Not for being nice.
@@BurtTurboLook at you- twice commented
Bernie has his seat for as long as he wants it. He is revered in Vermont by Democrats and Republicans alike. When he's not in Washington he works tirelessly on the ground advocating for the working class and the disadvantaged. People here think of him more as a social worker than a politician.
@@madhatter3687 What they said is THAT true that it needs to be said twice! Thrice, even!
The ones saying Kamala went
“too far left”, umm NO! She went too far to the RIGHT by embracing Liz and Dick Cheney! The “far left” supported Trump after feeling abandoned, not to mention former prominent Bernie supporters such as Tulsi Gabbard or Joe Rogan also supported Trump.
They really just meant they need to snuff out progressive competition that keeps making them look bad.
Bernie is 100% right
always has been
Has he ever being wrong?
Like try searching any video of Bernie in congress from lots of years ago. He always has been the GOAT.
The president that should have been its still sad that he never got a chance
@@no_name4796 I swear I once found one thing Bernie was slightly wrong on, but I can't find it or remember what it was. What a guy Bernie is 💪
He's not 100% right -- I agree with him mostly but he left out a critical reason she lost -- racism and misogyny.
It always should have been Bernie.
I know right!
Ive seen republicans,not many but i have seen some say they would have gladly voted for Bernie over trump,one claimed to be a trump supporter an said he'd have voted for Bernie if he was the democratic nominee because they didn't believe Kamala had any Truth behind what she promised shed do
Damn straight. Bernie is a real progressive. The Dems are not, as a rule. They're corporate controlled.
@@deathringer1003Bernie is actually anti-establishment & a true populist, while Trump is a con-man & fake populist, yet not really anti-establishment.
@@aaronsinger The DNC put their finger on the scale and almost every Bernie supporter I knew at the time voted Trump. They have lost the plot, and the play has continued without them.
"decades of defunding public education" that's it right there. You americans stood no chance
Exactly. Between their mass media propaganda system (including hollywood) and their atrocious education system it is no wonder they are reaping the results.
THIS
They let the old Republicans have a seat at the table but not the people they expected to turn out and vote for them.
Yeah because you see, you HAVE to vote for us otherwise we'll throw the bodies of Republican policies at YOUR feet. Y'know, the policies that the same Republicans they're giving seats to supported. And we'll put in those same body generating policies in the hopes to attract them even though it literally never has.
💯
Spot on!!!
Jaime Harrison needs to sit down and shut up. That stupid, arrogant party should have listened to Howard Dean years ago.
He not running for reelection for DNC which is great because guys like him shouldn’t even been running DNC he a rich guy from South Carolina most conservative state that never won election.
We need to pay attention to next DNC chairman because that be a sign if they learned.
@@darriusbethea2373The Clintonista/Third Way clique that has run the party for decades only elects neoliberals like themselves at this point.
Seriously. Dean was a brilliant organizer, and powerhouse in the DNC.
Wow I haven't heard that name in awhile.
Preferably 2004 Howard Dean, not 2016 Howard Dean.
They're definitely going to shift right. If the DNC chair is saying this, he obviously has learned nothing. I am not certain that growing a left wing movement within the Democratic Party is viable anymore. That said we've seen how well forming a "third" party goes. How do we make this party go the way of the Whigs?
I voted for Kamala, but I completely understand the numerous voters that decided that they couldn't vote, or felt it wasn't worth their time.
We need to use that to challenge them from the left. The more they abandon even the pretense of a left leaning alternative the weaker they become.
Have you ever heard people talk politics in break rooms or at parties. Trust me, you're not going to see a viable left-wing movement in this country ever again.
Remember all the talk about the “Justice Democrats?” I don’t think that lasted six months, and that’s being generous. I’m not sure I’d bother to participate in an attempt to “grow a true left” in the Democratic Party…but then, I’m royally sick of US politics, period, right about now. I voted for Harris too (or against Project 2025), but I also understand why people voted for Trump or stayed home.
I remember Biden announcing himself the winner when Bernie was mopping the floor with all of them. Americans have never been able to see the amazing president we could have had. 😑💙
That's where you're wrong, a lot of Americans did see it, it's the establishment that didn't. I live in Louisiana, and I know a lot of Trump supporters who have a soft spot for Bernie Sanders, and I even know a few who said that if in 2016 the election was between Sanders and Trump, they would have a hard time picking and would have to actually think about their vote. The only thing that Bernie Sanders and Donald Trump have in common, is both use populist rhetoric, Bernie Sanders is honest, earnest, and has actual integrity, Trump has none of those, but populism works.
@@Beastrider9 It makes a certain sense, they are willing to vote for anyone who even acknowledges the problem instead of pretending it doesn't exist. Woo the GDP went up and it all went in to the pockets of billionaires the economy's doin' great!
Bernie offers a plan to fix it, they like him.
Trump lies and says he has a plan to fix it, they like him.
@@Beastrider9 Only thing I hear from MAGA about Bernie is that he's a socialist...
Except it was Biden who was wiping the floor with Bernie.
Bernie was in the lead until about halfway through .. then suddenly Biden went from absolute dead last with virtually no support/votes, to first place by a huge margin and Bernie was shown to have lost a ton of votes/support .. does that sound suspicious to you? It did to a few voter watch-dog groups but they were ignored.
My parents would be classified as moderate Republicans. My mom especially would be classified as a never Trumper. She hates him, but guess what. My parents will NEVER vote for a Democrat. Republicans no matter how "moderate" they are will NEVER vote for democrats. That's the difference between Republicans and democrats when it comes to voting. Republicans will always turn out and vote for their people no matter what because winning is everything to them. Neocon Democrats on the other hand would rather lose than embrace their own left base because all that matters to them are their corporate donors who are there no matter the outcome because corporations win when Republicans are in office and win with neocon Dems are in office.
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It’s so true I have good friends who are republicans. The ones who aren’t maga reflexively hate the democrat politicians. And there’s not a thing you can say to change their minds. If you show them evidence of bad republicans, they just pivot to “well I guess everyone is bad” and they become cynical.
The establishment corporate-owned Centrist moderate AKA Republican-light Democrats, a RIGHT OF CENTER PARTY, will never get the right wing vote as long as there is a party farther right of center than they are.
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Correct. It’s a team sport for Republicans. Policy doesn’t matter.
During the Great Depression the angst from the people was so high we were close to communist and socialist revolutions. F.D.R. saved democracy with democratic socialist policies. After Reagan screwed us with trickle down economics. Bernie was our chance at another F.D.R. To get us back on track.
FDR knew if he didn't radically transform things, then the country could have gone the route of Spain or Italy or Germany at the time.
@@citizenx8710 He did this by changing the makeup of the court without fear. We need to cheat, lie, and steal if we must.
FDR wasnt a Dem Soc nor did dem soc policies. He just ran progressive policies, used Keynesian economics, and convince the rich if they didnt comply with him they will end up like the rich in the USSR.
Preserving the capitalist system. Doing FDR policies will only lead us back to here.
Even with all that the rich still tried to support a fascist to overthrow FDR
But with the difference that there wasnt a more radical threat in Bernie's case. A lot of FDRs efforts were to stave off Fascism as well as Communism. Maybe as we go down that road a little you could get an FDR type reaction again.
The major complaints I have heard over the past 3 elections was “do I have to choose between these two?” Speaks volumes about the candidates
It's only been 3 elections like that for you? Imagine how you would feel if you listened to the same thing over 8 elections.
i guess u can go back to them and share them the good news. theyll never have to vote again.
Election has always been the voting of the lesser of the two evils, that's just the truth. There's no politician who hasn't dipped his hand in mud, even if those people get into politics, they will do the same thing
@@Othique it is a nasty cycle and the only thing it led to is the fact that we now have to take extra security percasions now. I haven't been to the range in more than a decade. It is clear that the Democrats' strategy is to run against "a mad man threat to democracy" every 4 years who we are supposed to suppress principle to vote against. Clearly they have nothing to offer. Otherwise they would tell us about what is good about them as opposed to what is bad about those others. I can't deal with the "I am bad, I will give you nothing but I am not as bad as him, you have nowhere to go so you need to vote for me, lest he get in power".. I cannot deal with that anyone. Hence forward my politics are unapologetically militant and ruthless.
@@Othique Mondale was ahead of his time sadly. Would've made a great president.
I want a progressive economic populist like Sanders and Walz.
Lol imagine thinking waltz is a populist dems are dumbs
Sanders needs to retire and go live at his many houses! We don't need another SELLOUT like him
Bernie was shot down with propaganda.
sorry. u get trump. we all get trump.
Yes indeed, what a ticket that would be if it was the two of them.
I agree with Mike 100%. At first I thought her stance on Israel/Gaza was to avoid having AIPAC start fighting against her, but she just kept moving further and further right.
Same.
Its honestly crazy because right after announcing Walz there was genuine excitement amongst the majority of liberal voters. Choosing Walz made it seem like they were at the beginning of a shift to the left and it generated so much energy and enthusiasm.
In the following weeks they just completely tossed aside that entire shift and the energy that came with it to paint themselves as more moderate and conservative. I hindsight it should have been obvious from the Cheney acknowledgment that Trump would win.
Absolute fucking idiocy in the Harris campaign from that point on and it cost us all dearly.
The DNC talking over Bernie is WHY WE ARE IN THIS MESS NOW!
If given the choice between a democrat who cozies up to republicans and a real republican, people vote for the real republican. I notice that Kamala Harris went lower in the polls whenever she would say that republicans support her.
Least we know for sure they're a leopard.
This is why centrism never works, centrism lies and says they attract votes, but they only steal the possibility from the left wing, they take the turn on pendulum swing. They only win when we could have run on burnt toast and won. When a Republican is in charge and the electorate is hungering for something else. Then they promise that nothing will change, then lo and behold nothing changes and the Republican wins next time.
She also didn't even with the people they wanted from the right. She got less than Biden did, and Biden didn't pander this hard to them.
@@GeteMachine Centrism has never attracted voters, the only reason Joe got them is because of the pendulum effect, the thing centrists have falsely stolen credit from every single election that they've won.
@@GeteMachine I saw those exit polls. The non-maga gop is a very small portion of the republican base
It's looking like it's time to leave the democratic party.
I'm tired of advocating for out of touch neo-liberals
I’m 49 and feel the same way about Bernie and he could and should have won in 2016
Even if he didn't win, allowing the process to play out without DNC intervention would have done wonders for the dnc's image.
I so agree - I have been posting this thought - for a long time -
DNC and Hilsey threw Bernie under the bus, in favor of a contest between a "corporatist" and a con...
Not so well for the rest of us who knew better - I voted for Bernie in the Primaries, but stupid people voted for hilsey bc "they thought she could win" 😮😮
So, now, we are here...🤬🤬🤬🤬
I will never get off that soap box, every Republican I talk to I flat out tell them Bernie had Trump scared and Bernie would’ve won in 2016. The DNC and the DCCC are finished, they can’t be fixed.
@@meredithheath5272former Sanders NV delegate. Clinton didn't win anything, they blatantly rigged the primary to stop his ideas to use power to restore balance
@@meredithheath5272 there was a leak somewhat recently about some of the conversations going on within the party to undermine Bernie and I can't for the life of me find it. Do you by chance know what I'm talking about?
Bernie is as right today as he was 10 years ago. Its been a painful decade of having to vote for a turd because the alternative is diarrhea.
right
Don't worry. You won't have to vote anymore now. You'll be having Russian-style elections from here on out.
The parliamentary route is dead. Only one path remains. Get organized.
I'm telling you, the working class should start organizing itself. Leaving things up to the Democrats is just going to ensure a revolving door of Trumps minus the fake tan.
He's been consistently right for going on 60 years. Amerikkka does not care
@@18booma If anything good does come out of this I hope the dems do grow some balls. I don't think they will though, something else is gonna give first probably. But something WILL give at some point!
I've always thought the liberals were just too big of cowards to actually support progressive policy, but i agree with your assessment more. Its not that they're embarrassed that we want progress. They have contempt for us for daring to ask for it.
Kamala was too far left?😂…that’s a good one! Policy wise, she’s just the more moderate of two Repugnicans.
OMG, right? This country is so stupid. I truly wish I could move out of here. Ugh! 🙄
@@Kim-dm4yb The democrats are paid a lot of money to not move left. It's not stupidity, it's just greed. They care more about the money than getting elected. All they do is pose as candidates, and sometimes they inadvertently win and have to scramble to throw a "plan" together for running the country.
Yeah, and I said as it happened, as did others, that that was a horrifically bad investment of time.
@PAlt-p6y are you doubling down that Kamala was too far left????
@ Kamala Harris is a moderate Repugnican.
The DNC will never learn
This guy is stepping down as chair post election I suspect because he embarrassed and Bernie said what we all know and it eating him up.
I said this in 2016, the thing people like about Republicans is they FIGHT and they don't back down.
they learned under Howard Dean but then Obama and Rahm Emanuel came in and PURGED all those people and crippled the state and local parties like the plutocratic piggies they are-- they did this on purpose
DNC = Does Not Care
Doing the same thing expecting different results is insanity and they are ok with that
People in the US I talk to that refuse to vote, often explain they refuse to do that because of reasons like "There's only a single party with two different name, voting is pointless."
And the Democrats talking about shifting right and mimic Trumpian politics, rather than distinguishing themselves from the republican party and shifting left, are proving those people's point.
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Vote these clowns out of power and place true progressives in their place
And those people will continue to lose to blatant white supremacists.
Heck, I would place a 92 Bernie Sanders in office. That man is the goat.
I wouldn't do that only because this man needs to rest. He spent his hole life trying to fight in politics, without ever being listened (sadly)
We have to build from the ground up. We can't rely on another Bernie to come around. We need to win primaries before we can win generals.
We tried and it failed
Time to stop being democrats!
ATP, The ENTIRE Democratic Party needs a fucking overhaul because this is just ridiculous.
Exactly 💯
Honestly the only silver lining in Trump winning. And btw, if Trump actually goes for the heads of the dnc, idgf, they deserved for allowing Trump to win
But we already know the dem top heads are not going to change. Unironically at this point the republican are more open to THEIR VOTERS, then the dems. Sadly said rep voters are the most crazy fascist people alive, but damn i wished the dems listened 1/10 of how much republicans listen to their crazy base
Here’s to hoping if AOC eventually takes over the party will go Far Left permanently.
@@Nephalem2002Leadership probably hoped she'd be found on January 6.
Well you're not going to have to worry about the Democrats any more, since you're gonna have Hungarian elections from here on out.
Mike this video is SPOT ON! Thank you for your work👍🏼
I agree with Bernie. This was a shit show and even worse than 2016; at least Hillary won the popular vote. We need someone who isn't afraid to stand up against the donors. I voted for Kamala, but she was far from perfect. I hope the Dems learn their lesson in 2028, if democracy still even exists by then. We need a Bernie 2.0....a true progressive.
The DNC will give us Gavin Newsom lol
They.. won’t. They never do. They’re spineless and quite honestly very wealthy. The only people who might be able to do anything atp is Rashida Tlaib, Ilhan Omar, AOC (if she stops trying to play pattycakes with the DNC) and Bernie (if he’s still kicking..)
Why the fuck are these big donors so important anyways.
@@Nephalem2002 thats where they get their money, they rather listen to them than their base. Thats why it was hillary 2016 and not Bernie
Yah if you can’t win against a criminal madman senile sociopath who even his base can’t tolerate listening to at a rally without walking out, then you clearly haven’t listened to what your base is telling you.
I am so tired of being tied to the Democratic party and being outpaced by them in terms of financing during primaries. A genuine Labor party would do our country an incredible amount of good.
Can't until the system is changed. Progressives should run as Republicans. We'd kick ass.
@@talyahr3302put your energy into changing the voting system to Ranked Choice. It’s been used in Australia since the early 20th century.
@@talyahr3302are you stupid? What happened to the Strasserites? Oh yeah, dead
@@talyahr3302 yeah. i was thinking about doing that too since my liberal ex-friend said i should campaign for trump, because i didnt act polite enough. so tired of liberals wanting us to be polite. but progressives also annoy me since they dont see the bigger picture. we cant change anything until a very specific law is changed. people seem to think a candidate will magically bow to their demands. um, sorry! the government bends to the corporations. until enough people participate in politics, the government wont see us as a priority. sitting on ur couch instead of voting? okey dokey! corporations, what would u like?
I’m so tired of hypocrites like you-
Bernie Sanders is a war profiteering Zionist capitalist. Who had anti-war activist, black liberation activist, and those that spoke out against him ARRESTED. Poor folk and Black folk know our history. You can’t fool us on Bernie.
“Sanders may offer slightly different rhetoric than other Democratic candidates or Donald Trump, but his record proves him to be no alternative at all…
During the 1980s, Vermont was one of the largest recipients of Defense Department weapons contracts, such s the General Electric Plant in Burlington, which produced gatling guns for death squads. When peace activists planned to block the gate to the GE factory on June 20, 1983, Sanders refused to support them and had them arrested…
Even during his “radical period”, Sanders was only opposed to militarism…
It is that same rationale that justifies Sanders’ long-standing support for the F-35 fighter jet, which at 1.5 trillion dollars is the most expensive program in military weapons history. Sanders has made no secret that he wants that investment in Vermont, which will provide at least 1400 jobs and $124 million worth of investment…
In 1998, Sanders voted for the Iraq Liberation Act and another resolution that supported American measures to overthrow Saddam Hussein. As Jeffrey St. Clair noted for Counterpunch:
These measures gave congressional backing for the CIA’s covert plan to overthrow the Hussein regime in Baghdad, as well as the tightening of an economic sanctions regime that may have killed as many as 500,000 Iraqi children. The resolution also gave the green light to Operation Desert Fox, a four-day long bombing campaign striking 100 targets throughout Iraq. The operation featured more than 300 bombing sorties and 350 ground-launched Tomahawk cruise missiles, several targeting Saddam Hussein himself.
In voting in favor of these sanctions and interventions, Sanders is a direct accomplice to the deaths they caused…
Sanders did not limit his support to American militarism merely to Iraq. In 1996, he voted in favor of the Iran and Libya Sanctions Act, which “imposes sanctions on persons exporting certain goods or technology that would enhance Iran’s ability to explore for, extract, refine, or transport by pipeline petroleum resources, and for other purposes.” In 2001, he voted to extend the Iran and Libya Sanctions Act.
In 1998, he voted in favor of extraditing black revolutionary Assata Shakur to the United States in order to face “justice.”…
However, the most notorious action of Sanders during the Clinton years was voting in favor of American bombing in Kosovo in 1999. When antiwar activists occupied Sanders’ office in 1999 due to his support for the war, he had them arrested. Sanders’ backing for air strikes in Kosovo led one of his advisers, Jeremy Brecher to resign in disgust, writing: “Is there a moral limit to the military violence you are willing to participate in or support? Where does that limit lie? And when that limit has been reached, what action will you take?”
In fact, there is no limit to the amount of violence that Bernie Sanders is willing to support…
He voted in favor of H.R. Res. 64, Authorization for Use of Military Force that provided a blank check to President George W. Bush to utilize force against the terrorists responsible. Less than a month later, the United States launched military actions against Afghanistan which over the course of the last 18 years have led to thousands of deaths and devastated the country. The War on Terror marked the beginning of Sanders’ support for the war budget and appropriations to the military in 2002, 2004, 2005, 2006, 2007. and 2008….
When the Bush Administration geared up for the Iraq War in 2003, Sanders did vote against authorizing the use of military force. This is something that Sanders and his supporters point out as reflecting his antiwar record. However, this is a clever bait and switch. Just as American troops put their boots on the ground in a war that would kill hundreds of thousands, Sanders voted in favor of a resolution expressing support for the military. While Sanders has verbally opposed the Iraq War as illegal and wrong, this amounts to nothing but hot air since he regularly votes for military funding. If the war is illegal and wrong, then so is voting to fund it….
Sanders’ support for protecting Israel was not just in terms of words, but by votes to provide billions in military hardware and aid to the Apartheid state in 1997, 1999, 2004. When Hamas won the Palestinian elections in 2006, Sanders voted in favor of imposing sanctions in order to remove them from power. He has also voted for resolutions in favor of Israeli military actions against Lebanon in 2006 and Gaza in 2014. At a town hall meeting on Gaza, Sanders was heckled for defending the Israeli actions, telling the audience to “shut up.” -
Not on Our Side: On Bernie Sanders and Imperialism Left Voice
Bernie Sanders presents himself as an anti-war candidate. But he has voted in favor of almost every single U.S. military intervention in the last two decades. A look at his record…
Time for us as progressives to start our own party. Both parties have given us nothing but lies and heartache for the past 50+ years
A long time ago, during a protest, a wise older person shared a nugget of wisdom with me: "The Democratic party is where progressive policy goes to die." And it's more true now than ever.
Thats a banger
I wash my hands of America. I am inventorying stuff and packing things up. I came to the USA several years ago. I served in the military and now watching Americans intentionally choose fascism makes me shake my head. I have no desire to fight for the USA, not when the majority of Americans actively pointed to and demanded a fascist leader. I am done. I think it will take me about a year to tie up any loose ends. I will be poor when I return home, but I will also be free.
America won't change unless it collapses and is totally rebuilt.
I expect a lot of people who can to either return to their home country, or to apply for work visas in another country.
I'd not be surprised if a lot of smart and educated people would be amongst those who leave.
@@sylverscale I think your are correct. My wife was born and raised in the USA. She is brilliant, and for the first time ever she is now open to leaving the U.S. A definite brain drain will occur in the U.S I believe.
Take me with you!
The political system is so corrupt with donor money and lobbyists that you are right the whole system needs to be torn down and these people expelled from politics that’s why the Dems won’t change supporting the workers doesn’t attract big donors.
I'm making plans myself. Looking to immigrate to Canada or New Zealand. Its just sad it will take me probably 2 years to clean up my loose ends.
You are exactly right. The DNC and Hillary are responsible for all of this.
We need to work at the state level to unravel our electoral system - not just Electoral College - but HOW we conduct elections. Work to establish preferential voting, where each candidate gets a rating, (not a rank. Ranked choice voting has problems.) It undermines parties and allows more direct input and finer resolution from the electorate.
The parties will always be for sale.
There's a "Yes, Prime Minster" episode with a pretty good starting point laid out - ua-cam.com/video/C6b2OT3C9KY/v-deo.html
Sure, it's not perfect and needs some work to minimize abuse, but it would certainly a starting point.
I think you're right, Mike. I could feel the enthusiasm draining out of the base once the Republican light strategies started. I'm so far over the democratic party
@@newmoonjlp her speech at the convention was definitely a buzz kill after the Walz selection
@@user-jy2sj4ed4i Walz also lost me during his first question of his first debate. Went full on israel has the right to defend itself nonsense.
@@Ryuujinv01 I don't know enough about the conflict to have a valid perspective. I still think highly of him even if that's a bad answer
Yep, it was felt instantly when the diet republican talking points started to come up. And it only got worse. Completely eviscerated the momentum they had with the Walz pick. Pandering to conservatives NEVER works. Do the republicans ever pander left? Fuck no. They double down even harder. And guess what? They win elections by having a rock solid base, which the democrats seem to push away every single time. They never fucking learn!
Don't worry, I doubt we will be able to vote for anything else ever again.
I find it funny how they dismiss Bernie Sanders after he won re election.
He's been a senator since 2006, so he's been a senator for 3 races. I would probably look to him for how to win than the DNC chair who lost and has dismissed him.
You can get a term as senator from the inside of cereal box. Bernie was a burnout even before he lost to Hillary
Yet Kamala got more votes than him in his own state.
@@hermithefrog629what are you talking about ? “ burnout ? “ he’s literally doing the most of anyone and he is 81
They blamed AOC for losing a bunch of "moderates" in NY when she kept her seat. They just don't like competition that makes them look trashy.
What I saw here in smallish town Missouri is people were furious about the cost of everything. People also were mad because they thought people were getting things they they didn’t and they were pissed. They said “migrants” were getting free rent, health care, getting free money and they were struggling. They were also made about student loan forgiveness, they paid their loans and it’s not fair others got it when they didn’t. They were pissed that Harris was giving out $25k to people that they felt “didn’t work for it”. Too many thought that blue states were cutting off little boys genitals to turn them into girls. I have a trans son and people just wouldn’t believe me that that isn’t a thing. People also don’t want another war and Biden and Harris were all in for Israel and my younger friends just would not vote for Harris. People also just wanted to hurt people. They are just racist, homophobic, xenophobic pieces of crap and just want to burn everything down. People in the grocery line were crowing about all the liberals offing themselves after the election. Older people were laughing their asses off in public and people were high giving them in public. Then there were the people, homeless people, who were saying that now trumps in charge everything is going to be cheaper on day one, that we were all going to be rich and trump was going to be sending out “them checks baby”. I’m disabled and don’t have the resources to get to a blue state or a big city and it’s so horrific I can’t express it properly to hear my fellow citizens just plain evil and self centered mess, the utter lack of care for others and their glee at the thought of violence and democrats are going to learn the wrong lesson and move to the right and lose my vote for the first time in 50 years.
If Bernie Sanders isn't allowed to say I told you, so no one is.
Bernie would have won. It would have been VERY slim, but he would have won in 2016.
He stopped the 2020 campaign because he didn't want any of us working for him to get sick with covid.
I will stan bernie forever. Sometimes we disagree, but he's a good man at his core and root.
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He's a SELLOUT! I wouldn't support him to feed stray cats
@@JonathanB138you’re not the sharpest tool in the shed brother
@@JonathanB138 sellout to whom? biden adopted some of bernie's policies, policies that bernies been fighting to pass for years. do u know how much that pissed off the establishment?! do u not know how powerful the establishment is? one guy cant fight them alone. had bernie not played nice, both parties would have never passed anything he wanted. he had to concede.
He would have won by a landslide
I blame voters. I shared information from Robert Reich with my cousin because he was voting for trump for his "economic plan." When i sent him something from Robert Reich, he said,"What is this CNN propaganda you sent me?" Like, WTF. Anything i send would be Humanist Report, Farron Balanced, or like TYT. I should have known better since this was his 3rd time voting for trump.
Your cousin voted for Trump 3 times. You can't blame voters using the Trump voter as your basis... the key are the people who feel like there's no point to voting. The ones who see little to no difference and are reeling economically regardless.
Trump has the same base he always has. But you're not gonna get anyone standing with you if they're struggling and you're bragging about how great the stock market is doing.
Please! It is not just your generation. I’m older gen x and am still heartbroken over what the Democratic party did to Bernie.
Blame the boomers as always.
And let me guess... you voted for HRC and Harris? If you did, you are an enabler.
Yes I was 36 years old when I was introduced to Bernie hos first go around and I cried the 1st time around when they screwed him. The 2nd time I was just pissed!
@@JonathanB138 hi, can you get pregnant?
Same here!
I will never forgive them for what they did to Bernie. Never.
SAME 💔
That Senate race in Nebraska, where an Independent came within striking distance, is worth looking at.
My opinion on why Dems lost: first and foremost 70 million people voted for racism, sexism and fascism. Secondly, Dems have repeatedly shown that they do not take the concerns of their voter base seriously over the wants of their biggest donors.
That second point is heartbreaking. Harris proved extremely popular right after the start of her campaign, when she and Tim Walz called Republicans "weirdos" and presented themselves as more dynamic than Biden. Seeing her campaign devolve into the usual appeals to the fabled "moderate conservative" while her poll numbers visibly tanked was baffling.
@@HerculeDevantrienespecially when she teamed up with Liz
Don't forget to mention the dems trotted out a woman candidate when the opposition is trying to take womens rights away. Proving that people are not ready for a female president. One side doesn't even see women as equal people that should be able to vote. That will not swing many voters even if they don't like trump.
This is the best opinion I've seen on this. Rights were taken from women yet the majority of white women voted for Trump. It is a mix of bigotry and the DNC not embracing their base.
How they treated Arab Americans, made that obvious. Trying to snuff out, left wing propositions to keep capitalist "options" instead and brush off the people that loathe their "nothing will change" motto. Neo-Liberal arrogance always brings fascist populism in.
I am biological boy . Who played on a girls team. Because girls had no one on the team. Who played goalie position for hockey. So I went in to play for them. So they can play the sport they loved. No one saw anything wrong with that. This was 1990s to 2000. Man , people brains have absolutely melted.
Similar situation here. I’m a cisgender woman and I played on a boys baseball team as a kid. This was in the 90’s. Then, in the early 2000s, my college soccer team didn’t have a goalkeeper coach due to lack of funding. So, for a season, I practiced with the men’s team and trained with their coach. Later on, I wanted to learn how to box, and I sparred against men all the time. Literally no one cared. No one said a word or blinked an eye at ANY of this. No one talked about how I was “going to get hurt” or how it was “so unfair for boys to compete against a girl.” And this all happened in Florida! Conservative Florida! 😂 What this tells me is that the whole “unfairness in sports” narrative is just newly invented propaganda meant specifically to demonize transpeople and portray cisgender women and girls as weak and inferior.
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@@elisawhitman8526 yea. It is crazy how propraganda can melt brains.
@@elisawhitman8526 meanwhile trumpies watch women get attack by dudes in WWE. Now, they freak out.
@@TheBlazersfan22 😂 That’s a really good point about the WWE. I never thought about that before.
Same but from the different gender. I played Korfbal ( a Dutch mixed gender sport, which is kinda like basketbal,but you can't dribble with the ball) . Because we were low on boys I played against boys for two years because else our team couldn't play. No one was weird about it, and I never felt at a disadvantage
Meanwhile you have David freaking Brooks of the New York Times FINALLY admitting that maybe the Dems need to do a Bernie and make moderates uncomfortable!
Bernie's right and the establishment will never listen and never learn from their mistakes.
and we all are going to pay for it
the establishment is laughing at u because they convinced voters to vote for the establishment by sending a democrat trojan horse into the gop.
thats cute. u think the establishment is working for us.
We the people are the ones who never learn. We keep voting these politicians in office, while they get wealthy and we get poorer. The Corp/Wealthy give them millions of $$$$, while we can only give them our vote. That's the only time we seem important to them.
the democratic party needs to be rebuilt, and these do-nothing dems like jaime harrison have to go!
This!
Yes!!! But let’s all move into 3rd party. Enough is enough, why continue participating in this donor owned party.
@@colbybrand5326it'll never work, voting a third party will never get off the ground. But we need to do is completely change the Democratic party, is there some doing it like AOC and the other Justice Dems, but they can only do so much when both the party they are part of and the Republicans are in the pocket of the rich.
@@colbybrand5326it'll never work, voting a third party will never get off the ground. But we need to do is completely change the Democratic party, is there some doing it like AOC and the other Justice Dems, but they can only do so much when both the party they are part of and the Republicans are in the pocket of the rich.
@@Beastrider9support ranked choice voting measures.
You speak so much truth here. "We're rude, we're loud, we're stupid"
"SOME introspection?!" Dem Party leadership needs to resign en masse and make the way for those who will listen to what workers want and need. It's always "the economy, stupid". However, since they're all beholden to their corporate masters, we'll continue this stupid cycle of leaning further right to win over "moderate Republicans/independents" and shocked Pikachu face when they continue to lose.
This country DESPERATELY needs a viable left third party that focuses on the non-10% and realizes that economics rule EVERYTHING. If young people can't afford groceries, how is telling them to worry about climate or home ownership or fascism or whatever in the future going to win votes? This is so frustrating to watch and so disappointing for my kids' future.
But the experts say it's progressives. Because we have all that political power. Right?
It's time we have that power
@@haruhisuzumiya6650Only way we're gonna get it is to take it.
@@doomsdayrabbit4398There needs to be another protest movement like Occupy Wall Street, but the focus must be entirely on campaign finance and anti-corruption. Don’t exclude academic socialists, but don’t let them be the focus like happened with Occupy Wall Street. The message needs to be focused, angry, but PRACTICAL. No artsy kumbaya street anarchist BS. The focus also needs to be attracting a large angry crowd, not annoying disruption stunts by small groups of people. The purpose needs to be to get the media’s attention at all costs.
The problem is that if workers movements do not call out corruption, we get outflanked by the right. Look at RFK. I think he’s a kook, especially the anti-vax shit, but the message lands. Filling the administrative state with idiotic unqualified MAGA kooks will just cause dysfunction but the corporate corruption is 100% real.
Unions don’t have the funds to compete with corporate donors. They do have the funds to organize protest movements if they work together.
Things are more difficult with the potential of the Trump administration sicking jack-booted thugs on protesters. The thing is, if the left don’t play into their hands with rioting or goofy stunts that only annoy people, the optics becomes impossible. How can they possibly try to physically shut down a movement using the exact same “drain the swamp” rhetoric they use?
@@doomsdayrabbit4398 hard to do it when we dont have the resources. now that corporations have their guy, he will make sure the poor get poorer and the rich get richer. biden's presidency has been a blissful four years. ive seen so many people come out of poverty. even tho they complained about grocery and gas prices, they somehow had enough money to buy a new car, new gadgets, new furnitures, and have bbq cookouts almost every weekend. now we can all look forward to mass deportations, high tariffs, and lower wages. not enough people care about politics. thats why the government doesnt gaf about the people.
You nailed it! I voiced concerns on Twitter and was EVISCERATED by the fellow Democrats as being either a MAGA or GOP plant, posing as a Democrat. The two party system in the electoral college needs to be scrapped. Thanks for having the courage and tenacity to say what so many of us have been feeling!
Omg, same thing happened to me. I was called a troll when I criticized Harris for partnering w the Cheneys to try to gain Republican support & pushing it further to remind them she is against Medicare for All. Always appeasing the Republican supporters. There are dumb people on the left, too. They saw her as wanting to help both sides. Its absolutely disgusting. I mean, they are obsessed w Liz Cheney (war monger & horrific person) due to 1/6 & it's nauseating. They want her in Harris' administration. I swear we are the dumbest country in the world.
how do u scrap a two party system? theres plenty of third parties whove been around for years and they havent gotten their people to win any significant amount of seats. i dont know what u said to make them think ur maga, but i know plenty of democrats who want to get rid of the electoral college, but that cant happen unless theres a democrat president with both house and senate controlled by democrats. its kinda strange how a nobody like urself who hasnt put in any work into a political career, can just go in and tell people to change an already established system. its not that easy.
100% agree; 99% of R are corporate and 90% of D are.
Sure, but not voting for Kamala doesn't accomplish that.
@@russellward4624 agree
Bernie should have ran for president instead of Harris.
Still would have lost. Sadly
They probably though Tim Walz was enough and the limited him at a point. Dumbasses.
Good point. He was enough for me because I hate Trump but they even ended up putting chains on Walz.
Out of Trump, Harris, J.D. Vance, and Walz, Walz was the only one with an overwhelmingly positive approval rating, and they basically told him to shut up because he was being "mean" by calling the other side weird.
Democrats try not to blame minorities for losing challenge (IMPOSSIBLE)
No one is blaming minorities
Wtf there are literal examples of them doing so in this video. Gfys
Democraps trying to not blame anyone but themselves for losing challenge (impossible)
Two things can be true. Democrats have their part of the blame and those who voted Trump have theirs. I don't think we should act like these people are victims just because they're "working class". They still chose Trump. We're acting like they're animals who the dems forgot to close the pen to and got out. They're humans that can be held accountable for bad decisions just like the rest.
Hispanic votes was crazy and Muslim/arabic vote was low
They won’t learn and it dooms us all.
Kyle Kulinski gave us a solution: Make John Stewart President. He's a Celebrity, he's charismatic, and he's a Democrat.
He’s actually educated in politics as well, lol. I wish he would truly consider running.
Zelenskyy was a comedian too before ascending to the presidency in Ukraine because their political establishment was f*cked as well, so it’s not like there’s no precedent for it. On a sadder note, I hope Zelenskyy has practiced kissing up to Trump. Perhaps if he flatters him enough Trump won’t screw Ukraine as badly as they are going to.
The democrat and republican establishments are why we cannot have nice things.
and theyre fantastic at convincing us to fight amongst ourselves over irrelevant details.
I'm a Boomer. Everyone in this mess has let me down. Absolutely everyone.
*Now the fugging system WILL be torn down. Because voting against a fascist WAS NOT ENOUGH, was it?*
I voted for kamala and tim. I like tim better, but voting against fascist is enough for me , yet, all these comments i agree with. And i will tell you, Dem party had populist in bernie that was very popular.. and my friends from those times , voted Rfk, they would not vote for dems, one person said he wont vote.. etc etc. Dem party ignores populist ideas and their voter base.. I suspect its all about the big corporate donors.. as to why Dems always ignore Progressives and populist ideas they should know people want.
How about the fact that 15 million people that
voted for Biden did not show up for Harris.
Exactly. People did what I was afraid they'd do: stay home.
But Harris brought in 3million Republicans, the strategy of Pro-Rich worked to accomplish exactly what rich Democrats wanted.
@@rachael_grey People who voted for the old white guy didn't vote for the Black/brown woman.
This behaviour is so mysterious and baffling in the USA. Totally inexplicable.
Guys... come on.
Yeah, Biden also wasn’t supporting a genocide before he was elected…
@zammmerjammer that's certainly part of it, but only a part. What Bernie said was most of the problem.
This was the first election I ever voted in and I gave all my faith to Kamala and the Democrats despite their hatred for progressives. After this, I won't be registered as a Democrat again. It has devolved into the Republican Party at this point and I will not vote for them until they change their tune.
@@michaelacosta9204 first time for me too. And it felt like a waste
That's why I voted 3rd party, and I feel ZERO regrets about it! Remember VOTES ARE EARNED NOT FREELY GIVEN!! ALWAYS VOTE YOUR CONSCIENCE
So you think they should’ve gone with Kennedy Jr and/or Gabbard instead?
i left in 2008
I agree with nearly everything you said, Mike. But the closing was far too pessimistic. It's true that we all need to be in survival mode, but we should never stop fighting and never stop hoping. The moment you do then evil has truly won. Humans are resilient. People have persevered and conquered evil in the face of bleak odds before and we can do it again. The struggle towards a better and more equal society has never been linear or easy. All is not lost. If democrats will not see reason then it is up to us to use every tool at our disposal to gain the representation we deserve.
We need to get Bernie to start the Populist Party, NOW!!!
Now is the time. So many people are frustrated and dejected. A new party with him as the leader, even if he doesn’t end up as the candidate, would blow up SO FAST!
We have to give America an actual option and a chance to have a real voice.
Yes replace all the establishment democrats from safe democrat deats. In 2026 democrats will have a great chance to win the house and a slim chance to win the senate. Progressive tea party movement.
Where do I sign up?
There’s already a lot of anger with the Democratic Party, and there’s about to be a lot of buyer’s remorse with Trump. Hard agree.
Bernie can't do it! He sold out to the Corporate Democrats! I hope he got his 30 pieces of silver for it
He won’t, that’s the problem.
Just goes to show how little faith one should put in the DNC.
I am a BIPOC BOOMER. Voted "non-designated electors" in the primary to send a message to Biden about GAZA. Emailed my DEM reps non-stop, and all I heard back was "On October 7th..." Literally. EVERY. SINGLE. TIME.
As a trans person, I’ve never once felt supported by anyone other than other trans people. So being thrown under the bus kinda means nothing.
Know that not every cis person is a dipshit bigot. Trans rights are human rights
Fr. Trans as well, it really feels like all we have are ourselves. I'm going to be doing my best to meet with more trans people irl, we all need to start locally grouping up and making connections with eachother
@ we all need to do that for everyone who’ll be persecuted by Trumps reign. We stand together or die divided. I’m proud to stand with my trans siblings even if I’m cis because I’d rather be trans than a bigot.
for what is worth, you have an ally right here, and I know I'm not the only one
I'm sorry you feel that way although I will point out many trans allies have worked to raise a lot of money for trans rights.
Sure we know. This country is full of hate and stupidity..
Same as it ever was.
Jamie needs to go. Immediately.
Democratic consultants got a taste of Billion dollar campaign ..and they are not ever going to change that strategy.. they are going to milk the fascist suffering for all they can. They are loving it!
Yeah... I'll believe the part about how "this was the last election" when the drones repeating that can prove that the DNC isn't still fundraising for another... and I _cannot believe_ the implications of what I just fucking said...
My best man at my wedding is Puerto Rican - his WHOLE family voted Trump and honestly being from Long Island be growing up among many Latinos and Puerto Ricans and Dominicans in particular a lot of the don’t give a @@@@ about coarse language. They care about cost of living and inflation etc. They incorrectly thought Trump would be better on the economy and this is why they broke for Trump. Democrats need to figure out how to reach these people or we are @@@@@@@@@@@ed
Long Island is the worst.
When hes stopped and searched and has to prove his citizenship and suffer the insult from some dirty cop you'll have to revisit him and ask him how he feels now.
Trump was bad for the economy and he will be even worse now (zero workers protections, higher health insurance costs, higher rents, etc.). Puerto Ricans without a modicum of self-respect, that is all they are.
I hope all of them get deported.... I know i know they are citizens. Me I will carry my passport....
once the mass deportation starts and the tariffs are in place, theyre going to be in for a rude awakening.
Why is no one talking about the Forward Party? I'm not saying they're anti-establishment, but they're the only organization that is pushing for better representation through open primaries and ranked choice voting. I say we strengthen that movement.
Kamala pandering to the Republicans as a black woman 😂😂
Two things the republicans hate most
!!!!!
Bernie Sanders is a war profiteering Zionist capitalist. Who had anti-war activist, black liberation activist, and those that spoke out against him ARRESTED. Poor folk and Black folk know our history. You can’t fool us on Bernie.
“Sanders may offer slightly different rhetoric than other Democratic candidates or Donald Trump, but his record proves him to be no alternative at all…
During the 1980s, Vermont was one of the largest recipients of Defense Department weapons contracts, such s the General Electric Plant in Burlington, which produced gatling guns for death squads. When peace activists planned to block the gate to the GE factory on June 20, 1983, Sanders refused to support them and had them arrested…
Even during his “radical period”, Sanders was only opposed to militarism…
It is that same rationale that justifies Sanders’ long-standing support for the F-35 fighter jet, which at 1.5 trillion dollars is the most expensive program in military weapons history. Sanders has made no secret that he wants that investment in Vermont, which will provide at least 1400 jobs and $124 million worth of investment…
In 1998, Sanders voted for the Iraq Liberation Act and another resolution that supported American measures to overthrow Saddam Hussein. As Jeffrey St. Clair noted for Counterpunch:
These measures gave congressional backing for the CIA’s covert plan to overthrow the Hussein regime in Baghdad, as well as the tightening of an economic sanctions regime that may have killed as many as 500,000 Iraqi children. The resolution also gave the green light to Operation Desert Fox, a four-day long bombing campaign striking 100 targets throughout Iraq. The operation featured more than 300 bombing sorties and 350 ground-launched Tomahawk cruise missiles, several targeting Saddam Hussein himself.
In voting in favor of these sanctions and interventions, Sanders is a direct accomplice to the deaths they caused…
Sanders did not limit his support to American militarism merely to Iraq. In 1996, he voted in favor of the Iran and Libya Sanctions Act, which “imposes sanctions on persons exporting certain goods or technology that would enhance Iran’s ability to explore for, extract, refine, or transport by pipeline petroleum resources, and for other purposes.” In 2001, he voted to extend the Iran and Libya Sanctions Act.
In 1998, he voted in favor of extraditing black revolutionary Assata Shakur to the United States in order to face “justice.”…
However, the most notorious action of Sanders during the Clinton years was voting in favor of American bombing in Kosovo in 1999. When antiwar activists occupied Sanders’ office in 1999 due to his support for the war, he had them arrested. Sanders’ backing for air strikes in Kosovo led one of his advisers, Jeremy Brecher to resign in disgust, writing: “Is there a moral limit to the military violence you are willing to participate in or support? Where does that limit lie? And when that limit has been reached, what action will you take?”
In fact, there is no limit to the amount of violence that Bernie Sanders is willing to support…
He voted in favor of H.R. Res. 64, Authorization for Use of Military Force that provided a blank check to President George W. Bush to utilize force against the terrorists responsible. Less than a month later, the United States launched military actions against Afghanistan which over the course of the last 18 years have led to thousands of deaths and devastated the country. The War on Terror marked the beginning of Sanders’ support for the war budget and appropriations to the military in 2002, 2004, 2005, 2006, 2007. and 2008….
When the Bush Administration geared up for the Iraq War in 2003, Sanders did vote against authorizing the use of military force. This is something that Sanders and his supporters point out as reflecting his antiwar record. However, this is a clever bait and switch. Just as American troops put their boots on the ground in a war that would kill hundreds of thousands, Sanders voted in favor of a resolution expressing support for the military. While Sanders has verbally opposed the Iraq War as illegal and wrong, this amounts to nothing but hot air since he regularly votes for military funding. If the war is illegal and wrong, then so is voting to fund it….
Sanders’ support for protecting Israel was not just in terms of words, but by votes to provide billions in military hardware and aid to the Apartheid state in 1997, 1999, 2004. When Hamas won the Palestinian elections in 2006, Sanders voted in favor of imposing sanctions in order to remove them from power. He has also voted for resolutions in favor of Israeli military actions against Lebanon in 2006 and Gaza in 2014. At a town hall meeting on Gaza, Sanders was heckled for defending the Israeli actions, telling the audience to “shut up.” -
Not on Our Side: On Bernie Sanders and Imperialism Left Voice
Bernie Sanders presents himself as an anti-war candidate. But he has voted in favor of almost every single U.S. military intervention in the last two decades. A look at his record…
They party that called her low IQ, unqualified and accused her of lying to them about her race....😑😑
Why vote for Republican light when you can vote Full Republican.
The middle or center right voterbase that is going to save the day is a myth.
Democrats are just pissing off their Core base to attract some people who don't want to join and don't respect them.
Newsflash learn about the core base of your own Party and how to keep them and grow from there. I'm afraid though the Core is leaving or just canceling out.
It turns out nobody will vote for "dems in rinos clothing" ... not the dem base... and certainly not rinos
Centre right loses out to far right every time. This shitshow has been on tv before.
And you thought the ending of Game of Thrones was awful...
6:35 Biden is the most progressive Democrat president we've had since FDR. So, what does that say for the Democratic party and it's current situation?
It’s time to just leave the democrats. They aren’t a left party, much less a center left or even center right party anymore. They’re just right wingers now. It’s time to leave and form a new party
The problem is the Democrat and Republican Parties are the only viable parties. Third parties have the system completely rigged against them that prevents them from being able to win elections.😓
Hopefully, this catches on, one day... I guess...
I'll vote for a Republican before I vote for a Republican lite again. Least I know it's a damn leopard for certain.
The Dems can't seem to unify when it's needed they can't get messaging out effectively. They don't know how to operate in this new era and all their grandstanding about running a good campaign, we did the best we could and we'll get them next time is not going to change the fact that they are actively hurting Americans through their incompetence. They are more loyal to the donors than the people they pretend to represent
@@sorejack I’m sorry… but that’s kinda dumb. You’re basically saying, “I’d rather stick my head in the mouth of a leopard than square off against a bobcat that’s posing as a leopard, because being eaten alive by the real thing is preferable to getting scratched by a poser.”
I love Bernie. I’m still sad he bowed out for Biden, in 2020.
Biden won the primaries fair and square. I just can't believe SC got to decide our candidate, a deep red state!
He lost my love when he wouldn't called Gaza a genocide and demanded permanent ceasefire. Rashida Tilad is one of the few who never waivered
Say it loud Bernie!!! You know the truth!!
I'm so done with Democratic Party bullshit. The Corporates don't need two parties to represent them. These Dem hacks can join the GOP or clean up their acts.
Jaime Harrison needs to step down
Absolutely.
He should have never been put in charge of the DNC in the first place. I don't understand why they keep promoting these politicians that lose their elections. Get people who have won and know how to win.
You mean Fired.
I watched Bernie for years, even when he was on Real Time and Bill encouraged him to run for President. Later, Maher lambasted him for running as well as Elizabeth Warren... I stopped watching.
We the People
You can't beat someone like Ted Cruz and want to blame trans kids? Seriously?
I'm ashamed to say i voted for Harrison in 2020. Not because i like him but because I despise Lindsey Graham. The fact that he became DNC chair after losing is really making me start to think that people like him are just controlled opposition, weak pathetic little man.
I didn't know Pete Wentz shared political opinions
When Kamala Harris declared; I am, Yes, I am a Capitalist (a crystal-clear sound bite and echo to her donor base and buzz word for me), that is at the point when I knew exactly what, we the people who are the progressive left, were dealing with.
I was on board up until that moment, although I had my share of doubts weeks beforehand.
Kamala did not represent me. I am not a capitalist. I am a realist and a feminist of the working class, to be more precise, of the lower working class and when a single independent woman hears an elitist entitled feminist say I'm a capitalist, it reverberates. It is defined by; I love my status quo class and privilege and my windfall of profit and as long as I bend to the will of the bourgeoisie, I've got the win in the bag. IOW, Kamala is working for team DONOR when she declares; I am a Capitalist.
There are two classes/groups of feminists: one is Kamala, the other is me.
A working-class single mother vs an establishment elitist Queen entitled upper class echelon.
I voted Democrat to put a stop to trump, period the end.
I have felt for some time now this is a "One Party" system, even going as far back as the Clintons in the 90"s which even then had devastating effects on the working class.
Bernie was our last line of defense and chance at a vision and a dream, to clench The American Dream that has been ripped away from millions and will likely do same to their children.
That dream died with Reagan. I am a child of Reaganomics. Yes, Gen-X was the original and first fucked with generation to be gutted by the establishment one-party system
In only forty short years, I have lost everything near and dear to me because of greed and the corporation nation donor base that has successfully hijacked the one thing that is precious to us: our vote.
Reagan is the seed that gave us this orange malfeasance felon fascist dictator and his MAGA cult.
It happened because of the enormous uneducated populous we have.
Now because of Elon’s hatchet- Medicare For None.
And food for none, necessities for none, welfare for none... Well the rich will get all that.
@@scorpiousmagus actually I don’t think they’d go that extreme not only would people start to riot and become dangerous but also you can’t make money if you have no one to tax
@@stargazer-elite I m going off of an interview where he was basically saying he was going go max austerity and it was going to get really bad and then it would get good. I mean maybe he won't who knows. He's a big fan of Javier Milei who is running his country into the ground. Plus. You are thinking like a person with a brain. Elon thinks he's brilliant but he just steals people's stuff.
@@scorpiousmagus To be fair, "... thinking like a person with a brain..." is, arguably, also in play when one trusts those interviews too much: Isn't Elon kind of prone to running his mouth and then changing his mind?
(I mean, that's a weak reassurance even if true, but it's at least... a thought?)
@@stargazer-elite Damage is done. Nothing can be done before 2026. By that time democratic party have to go through extensive reform. They will do what they please so stop speculating and prepare for 2 years of chaos.
I hope Bernie becomes an even bigger figurehead for the populist left than before.
I kind of hope Bernie Sanders at least grooms a successor to his legacy.
He needs to at least live until the 2028 primary to campaign hard for a progressive nominee, idk who that'll be but we need that
The UAW president would be a grand successor.
All the Democratic Party said was vote for Kamala because she’s not Trump but gave us nothing. Kamala cannot even relate to the poor.
We need a goddamn progressive party
Our “Labor” party in Australia is pretty centrist and even that would be considered too “far left” for Democrats in the US…
There's a reason I say the Democrats are equal to Canadian Cons. It's sick, seeing a country so far to the right.
But we have independents and greens to balance the power
@ I’ve been a green and independent voter for my whole life. Never ever voted Labor or Liberal ☺️
For all the issues I have with Australia, I’ll take our voting system before America’s 💩 show.
Democrats are saying that calling a trans girl a girl is far-left lmao they're utter buffoons
Bernie should have been out on the campaign.
It's so basic. In order to lead you need to present BOLD IDEAS. Medicare for All. Paid Maternity Leave. Subsidized Child Care. If she had led with these policy initiatives instead of the paltry 6k child tax credit and upgrade to Medicare to help with elder parent care. It was going to take more than that. MUCH more than that. But the democratic party won't get it. The idiots will keep moving to the right. That is why we need a true candidate to really shake things up.
Except that Americans continually don't support those initiatives.
They voted for a convicted felon, white supremacist, sex offender. He didn't sway them with "bold ideas."
Guys, come on. What is this? Just abandon the fantasy -- the USA is filled with BAD PEOPLE, who DON'T CARE about helping others or making a better world.
This is a few reasons I didn't vote for Harris. I voted for Stein/Ware
Trust me, Dems get it. They don't want to lose their Corp Donor paychecks every month.