Honestly the biggest difference between FFXIV and other MMOs is that while MMOs will usually "have" a story, FFXIV IS a story. The plot and worldbuilding are the primary focus with the game being built around it as opposed to the usual MMO method of build a game and then tack some kind of plot on to loosely tie things together.
Van Darnus didn't "attempt" to bring Dallamud down, he did it successfully. That was how 1.0 ended. Alternatively, the final questline from the 1.0 msq had us going around to the various temples and praying...turning Louisoix into the Pheonix primal, which is the version of him you see here. For those of us who played 1.0, this was fulfilling.
Of course, Louisoix becoming the Phoenix wasn't actually revealed until here in this very raid. Until this, all anyone knew was "somehow Bahamut was stopped, but hell if we know how." This raid was also how Nael being a woman was revealed - for English players, this was a twist and a half due to everyone thinking Nael was a guy. For Japanese players, it was merely a reveal, as the game had never given Nael any voice-acting, and always used gender-neutral pronouns for her. That's harder to do in english without being *incredibly* conspicuous, though.
Learning of Louisoix's fate was formative for my WoL. It's a big part of the reason he so willingly takes on all so many menial chores and quests that many would see as beneath him: it's all part of his campaign to keep people from putting him on a pedestal like Louisoix. Summoning a primal requires aether and faith. And the people who channeled the aether for Louisoix's ritual of the Twelve may have been praying at the Marks of the Twelve...but the one they really had faith in was Louisoix himself. He was the wise mentor who always knew what to do, the mighty sorcerer who could wield impossible magics, the _man who would save the realm_ if they just supported him. All the pieces were there, and in the moment of crisis, they turned their faith to him. And, desperate to save what he could, he accepted this unintended apotheosis. As for my WoL...well, you may respect the guy who comes over and helps you muck out the chocobo stable, and you're probably grateful to him. But when you've seen him sweaty and stinky, with feathers in his hair and straw stuck to his face, you're not going to _pray_ to him.
Coils is anything but basic. It’s difficult enough that in later expansions raids will be separated into normal and savage difficulty levels. You do the normal version first, then unlock savage.
Which I REALLY appreciate. Being able to PUG normal mode raids for the story has allowed me to see way more endgame content than I ever managed in WoW, thanks to the social challenges of the 25-man and 40-man raids.
So the writer for this raid quest series is Ishikawa, she also writes for the crystal tower raids, several parts of the MSQ (More and more as the games went on), the dark knight questline, the stormblood 8 man raid content and the rogue questline until eventually being made the MAIN scenario writer in shadowbringers and promoted to supervisor in endwalker. Know her name, pretty much everything she touches is gold. She got an actual standing ovation at the first fan fest after shadowbringers because of how good her writing is.
I know the community memes on Yoshi-P as this one incredible man who singlehandedly fixed the game, but god damn do people need to give the rest of the team more credit. Fortunately, someone's already put up an entire google document full of credits of every version of the game so far, documenting the gradual evolution and changes of the devteam.
And apparently a lot of her being the main writer from ShB onwards is because she got so pissed about making interesting characters only for other writers to unceremoniously kill them off (Moenbryda, Ysayle) that she decided to take over from sheer spite! What a badass
Nael deus Darnus is such a wild ride. The middle names of Garlean citizens are basically epithets, like titles, and the further down the alphabet your epithet is, the more important. That's why the royal crown has zos as a middle name, why someone as important as an Imperial Legate (imagine someone who is a general and a state senator combined) gets van, etc etc. This Nael going with "deus" doesn't fit into the pattern we know, because it's not a real Garlean epithet, it's just assumed. I suppose it's a big presumptuous reference to the fact this Nael is the servant of a god, hence, deus. The reveal about Nael actually being Eula _the entire time_ is absolutely crazy, because it was invented because of a translation mistake. Basically in 1.0 there was ambiguity in the script about the gender of the character and the English localization department went with masculine pronouns because eh. Welp, turns out Nael was a woman the whole time and they didn't know until Coils was being written and the whole thing got clarified. So to rectify this, instead of just going with "Nael was a woman the whole time oops" they invented this big chunk of character lore about Eula deliberately masquerading as her brother after he died very early in his political career and that is now CANON it even made it into a freaking official lorebook. It honestly not only adds a bit of interesting flavour to Nael/Eula as a character that doesn't get in the way of anything, it also genuinely helps the Garlean Empire feel less like just any old standard Evil Bad Guys Empire and more like a real, fleshed out nation full of actual three-dimensional characters who are treated just as much like people as the "good guys" are. Nael is no longer just a guy who got brainrotted by Big Dragon Man, suddenly there's also this side of a complicated tragedy over a young man's death and the hardship his sister went through to make him a true legend. It's also funny because it retroactively paints all of the White Raven's accomplishments in that ironic light. Eula did all that she did for the sake of Nael's reputation, but in the end, it was all by her own hand. Girl should give herself more credit. for... causing a genocidal apocalypse okay you know what maybe not
Also, Nael's gunhalberd is named Bradamante, after the original Nael's fiancée who impaled herself after finding out about her beloved's death. Eula used it as part of her White Raven disguise. The Bradamante gunhalberd that we see during the Hildibrand ARR questline is a fake.
It wasn’t quite translation problems, there weren’t plans for nael to be a woman initially but there were fan theories which the devs thought it would be cool to use when it came to coils. Well, every language explained the situation differently so consensus was pretty much non existent. The stuff with Eula came in several expansions later as a way to have a consistent backstory throughout all languages
Just to nit pick, at 3:00 Galactic did not drop a twister on you. The Twister spawns under You, and You trigger it( by not moving), killing yourself and pushing back Galactic into the wall xD
After coils, the other eight man content is accessible through the duty roulette. It would be nice to see coils added, but they would have to Signal the mechanics with a little bit more grace. Those Twisters are nasty!
Their difficulty is very much overrated. I find Savage content Out Of Reach but coils have done at minimum item level. They just signal mechanics badly. A fresh coat of paint and it's fine.
@@TheIvoryDingo It works for the MSQ roulette and people do that every day. Bigger warning sign on the ground for Twisters, signal when meteors are going to overlap for Nael, and put arrows on the ground for Divebombs so people know where they're headed. Tada!
Ah also because you were tired when you finished the last turn you actually did completly finish all of the coils story as you have a few more cutscenes the wrap up the story with alisae
Oh and before you give me flak for not telling you earlier. 1. it was past midnight for you, and 2. I didn't think you were going to push out the video for it pretty much the next day
Fun fact worth noting: that halberd that Nael summons that Hildibrand and Gilgamesh were fighting over... it actually showed up in the 1.0 Hildibrand questline, too. Though... not quite 1.0. Toward the end of the questline. Right near the very end, it turns up in the possession of a random farmer who bought it from a merchant. While helping the farmer tend his field with what turns out to be very explosive material, Hildy ends up miunderstanding a prophecy and thinking he's fated to fight Dalamud himself. While holding what he believes to be a defunct weapon, he fires the weapon (it's a Gun-halberd, after all), ignites the field, and sends himself flying - setting up for the start of the Hildibrand questline in A Realm Reborn. Fun fact though... the one that Hildy and Greg fight over later isn't actually the real weapon. The real weapon is called "Bradamante". The one they fight over in ARR is called "Pradamante", and is merely a replica.
The fact you did this before going into Heavensward is REALLY AWESOME. Seriously, it highlights Alisaie so much as a character. I did it much later and I wish I had done it sooner.
Also important to note is cutscenes and character interactions are influenced by content you've done previously, and heavensward quests have changed dialogue if you did coils.
The 'Answers' cutscene when you see Loiusoux ascend as Phoenix is the moment I knew FFXIV was more than just a good story with some twists and turns. It's a GREAT story that I needed to follow with every fibre of my being!
"Answers" in general is just... a wild crazy song when you think about it, because hot dang, it is used often in the game, in its original form and in many "remixes" of just pieces of the melody in many cutscenes and it instantly makes any cutscene epic almost. That's to say nothing about a certain cutscene they use it for way later in the game, because holy crap it really hits hard there, lol.
Bit late here, but I've heard other MMOs called MMORPGs with the massive multiplayer online part front and center and the RPG aspects are there to facilitate the game. FFXIV, on the other hand, is an RPGMMO where the story of an RPG takes front and center and the massive multiplayer online aspect is just to facilitate the game.
Glad you got to do this! I was hesitant to do raiding in FF14, and the lack of CoB support in the roulettes made it very hard to do at the time. Raid stories may not be part of the MSQ progression, but they are still all feed into the overarching story of the game, and often provide additional context if you have completed them. The Alliance Raids and Normal raids can be done by PUGs which means everyone gets to enjoy the content, with Extreme Trials and Savage raids being optional for those who want a coordinated challenge.
I think the sister thing for Nael van Darnus was because in the original language, pronouns aren't always gendered, the armor also makes it unclear, and 1.0 didn't have voice acting, so the translators just went with he. And when it was revealed that van Darnus was a woman they had to come up with an explanation after saying he for all that time.
I like to think that the DRK quests are the WoL being tired of playing by the rules after trying to help everyone they meet all the way through ARR and their reward being that they're framed for murder and exiled from Ul'Dah. So their next step is "Fuck everyone, fuck everything, I'm taking justice into my own hands." lol
So glad you enjoyed this! The Coils series is basically a love letter to all the 1.0 players who stuck with the game. It's basically an epilogue to the 1.0 story before ARR basically moves on to really be its own thing.
The funny thing for me is that coils is /just/ fine. I personally rank it as my least favorite of the 8 man 'normal raids' and it's in the bottom three for the grander "optional but important side stories" that are raid series, trial series, and alliance raid stories. It's not bad, but a lot of it is "Look at all this stuff from a game you haven't and cannot play" and the three characters that survive it, the twins and Urianger, are basically different people by the time heavansward wraps up, because they develop so much, and so far away from where coils leaves them. All the Allagan and Bahamut stuff is great though, so there's that.
I guess when you compare it to newer co tent sure it can seem a bit outdated? Or not as great just because it seems common theme that the game gas gotten significantly better as you get through more of the content.
@@CaffeinatedDad Coils is by no means bad, just definitely where they were finding their footing. I'm soft on ARR as a whole, because once you know what it's doing it's actually pretty good, coils is where I steak my "You ain't seen nothing yet" flag. There is only one bad raid in this game, but I'd hate to taint expectations by saying which one, because who knows you might love it.
I'm sooo glad you got to see this content ❤❤. I love this raid and so many people miss it because its optional and difficult! This to me is the true end of 1.0.
So glad Galactic takes you on these MUST-EXPERIENCE rides even the Coils! Many new players skip Coils because they hear oh it's difficult to find parties/takes long/mechanics are difficult, and they never see these mind-blowing revelations! Thank you Galactic for doing WHAT MUST BE DONE!!
Honestly, I can't wait for the thoughts on Hildebrand questline once it's done (because it is absolute bananas) and the post ARR quests, if you're doing that.
This will become more obviously alpha-chad power level later, but it's good to keep in mind that Bahamut was so powerful that, even as his own aether was dispersing, he was able to enthrall another primal.
I wish I could get a Duty Finder group up for The Binding Coil or Bahamut. Sadly my friends moved away from FFXIV so I can't get an unsynced group going.
Honestly, they might want to make a just Story-Only version of the raid just so more people can watch it. It is such a good story! Onwards to Heavenward and beyond! The writing will continue to hook you. And make sure to hit up all the Normal Raids and Alliance Raids!
1. Coils is the true ending of ARR. It gives so much closure to 1.0 2. The Coils were actually pretty controversial when they came out. Because they were so much more difficult than just about anything else in the game at the time, most players never got to see some pretty important story content The outcry was heard though as from here on: A) Raids were made into side stories. Good on its own, but not VITAL to understand the story going forward B) Raids were separated into Normal and Savage versions
Eons is a bit much. The whole world came into it's current form some 12000 years ago and the Allagans were around "just" 5000ish years before the start of the game, while eon to my knowledge is used for millions of years and upward. Besides, Dragons are functually immortal to begin with, and will live forever, unless they die of illnes of injury, to the point that some of them can barely seperate what happened yesterday from what happened a thousand years ago. We also don't know how much of a mind this primal had, compared to his physical counterpart, before the Allagans killed him and the other Dragons summoned a primal in his general shape, but bigger.
I always try to take my sprout friends who managed to finish ARR through all of the Coils unsynched since it's such an important lore milestone that not everyone gets to experience because it's "Optional." I'm glad you guys got to run this!!
The raiding only gets better. I always complete some savage but I have never completed every savage. I am making Dawntrail my expansion to go back and do that in addition to the Dawntrail savage raids. After Coils the savage content becomes the unofficial story with the game cannon sticking to the normal modes but there are still some great revelations in the savage fights of what could have happened (but didn’t) if the villain got closer to victory.
optional content too btw, free trial btw, actually High quality MMO with passionate devs who care about the customer and respect your time btw. =P good vid. such an interesting raid series
New subscriber. This game gets better and better. I'm looking forward to seeing you experience this game. It's been a wild ride for me. I experienced a lot of those, "and then I died instantly'" moments!
I can't recommend enough going back and at least trying to do coils at min ilvl with echo turned off. The fights are really fun and challenging. I've finished coils, alexander, and omega so far in my MINE static and coils has been my favorite of those 3.
The thing that upsets me most about Coils is that it's not mandatory content. The story of Coils if taken in the context of the greater story arc for Alisaie and Alphinaud greatly informs why they're so dedicated to the salvation of Eorzea. If you consider everything they go through during Coils their motivation makes much more sense than without it.
You lucky man got to do Coils before Heavensward and Co. By the time I saw Coils it felt so odd to hear those ARR Voice Actors after being used to the arguably way better ones from later on
Coils is so important to the story that I'm still baffled it didn't also get an accessibility rework while they were streamlining the rest of ARR. here's hoping that happens someday.
I always advise new ppl to do coils if only for the story. Alliance raid story next? You'll need more than just 2 ppl for that one tho xD, atleast it's in the roulette.
Something I love about final fantasy XIV raids is the attention to detail even in something as basic as arena floors, the bahaumut arena is based on the scientific tree of life which is supposed to show the evolution of all life from a single common ancestor (The tree of life, also called a phylogenetic tree, is a graphic tool that biologists use to portray evolutionary relationships among plants, animals and all other forms of life.). The thing is bahaumut is floating above the arena as if he's above all life on the planet and that we are literally beneath him in both contexts.
Very glad you did Coils gor the story. Running it with Galsctic was an excellent choice. If you ever wanted to do some of these fights "properly", do Twintania, Nael, and Bahamut. Then, watch a clear of UCoB (Unending Coils of Bahamut). The middle "name" of Garleans is their rank/title. So Gaius van Balsar snd Nael van Darnud have the same title/rank. Van is approximately a great general. Nael then dropped the van for Deus (as is deus ex machina. As in God).
The lore in Coils is amazing and it was the first time I really got invested in the lore of FF14. I understand why they removed Coils from the Raids Roulette, but its tragic that people who dont seek out the side content will miss it.
Coils is honestly the best story in ARR imo. It's too bad you didn't do the story with stream. I hope now that you see that "side content" is still main story related, you will also stream it. This may be a hot take but there are many of us who would trade in any hildibrand stream for raid story content on stream.
It is. Especially because at that time this was very surprising because you didnt have that kind of cinematic break that leaves from one phase to another. WoW bosses had it but it was not that directed. Now these days multiple encounters in FFXIV have it but Bahamut was a mindblowing premiere.
Now its time to reaction after he see "infamous" massage .... "It is recommended that you set aside sufficient time to view these scenes in their entirety." ....
Mercadia is pronounced Mer-ka-dia, sicne you asked :p Yeah, the coils were something special. It's an incredible raid and it has a beautiful story and music. There,s something solemn and epic at the same time and that final fight when the music swells and bahamut does his mega flare is an incredible moment. I really want to try the Ultimate version of the fight soemday
I think you have a tiny but significant misconception about the purpose of the "Alligators" as you put it. Bahamut is their weapon. They intentionally torture the dragons and release him on their enemies. It's like a screw you all button that they can press at any time.
These pronunciations are cracking me up (not like I did any better). Looking forward to your Crystal tower analysis, and eventually the Heavensward raid comparisons to ARR. Congrats on your journey so far!
I did same thing with other youtuber - helped him to clear coils on what is pretty much story mode, with promise that we will clear it later as a full group with min ilvl, no echo. It was a hard fight. Most fights in the raid are just annoying. But Bahamut Prime was the first time when we had to finally get into a voice chat and have proper callouts. It is a hard fight. Really hard. But it is so rewarding to see when all mechanics work together. Both tanks have to do their job properly - kite boss and add to specific places and keep them there. Manage their mitigations at correct timings. Know when it's beneficial to do the damage burst. Bahamut Prime is one raid of a kind. Frankly, newer raids can be harder. They are faster and they require better coordination. But none have same mechanics that Bahamut has or same responsibilities. It is a shame that this raid is not adapted for a story and duty roulette since, for example, O12 (last of Stormblood raids) that IS in duty roulette (and in free trial) and is pretty hard raid that requires players to understand what they are doing and O12 kinda almost has this part where tanks have to keep two targets separate, but it's not as important as with Bahamut. One of the raids in this game is outright required to proceed further through the story (won't say more to avoid spoilers but aside the fact that it appears in like 9/10 of raid roulettes - it's a really good raid series) but realistically - every Normal and Alliance raid is required to do because every single one is adding important insight to the world of FFXIV as a whole (ok, not every single one - Nier raid series is pretty inconcequential and brings more confusion than anything else even to people who have good knowledge of Drakengard/Nier series but that's the only outlier) or directly to the story - bringing characters, concepts and plot points from raid of one expansion to the core narrative of another (or not, it will depend on what developers will want to do with it). For someone who had to live with complete change of narrative and dropping of the narrative plot points in their favorite games (would it be complete design change in Dragon Age 2 or Mass Effect 2, complete abandonment of plot points in different Megaman series or even the fact that in Baldurs Gate 2 you start with Minsc and Jaheira even if you killed them in BG1 and game literally forces you to deal with it), seeing this dedication to continuity is just incredible!
I started playing in 2.0 and had started on Turn 1 but only came back during Shadowbringers. Going through the rest of Coils as optional content to do for funsies was absolutely wild because I didn’t know that the ending of the cinematic was hidden at the end of the raid. This game is incredible.
Most of the raids have such a good story it seems wild that you can find quality storytelling in what's called "side content". Hope you keep enjoying, I think you will :D
What’s fascinating about this is that it is purely optional. You are not required to beat this before moving on in the story despite how crucial of a story element this is. Granted, it’s cake now thanks to unsync but the story here is way too important to skip.
in general what you have to do is what was done here- find a friend or FC mate that's max level who will solo it for you. I always offer if I know someone's going through ARR for the first time.
there's a reason that a LOT of people clasify FFXIV as a RPG-MMO, its very story first, online game second. if you enjoyed how they wrapped up a part of the storyline neatly then you're in for a treat as you go further into said storyline. I'm fairly sure your pal Galactic will be able to guide you to any of that which is off the MSQ, like Coils here, but there is so much good writing to come, Ishikawa is responsible for much of that.
So, Coils is not indicative of what future raids will be like. The big mantra for FFXIV is that this is a Final Fantasy game first and an MMO second. Which means, locking story content behind extremely difficult content that half of the player base will never do, goes against that mantra. So, starting in Heavensward, they design two versions of raids, one that is about as hard as an extreme trial and one that is proper raid level difficulty.
Coils was the Dev Team's first attempt at high tier raid content for FF14, and only the 2nd coil has a Savage version.... it lives up to the Savage epithet. Minimum Item Level No Echo on all of Coils is no joke and still as hard as modern raid progression. They learned a lot and trimmed a lot of fat for Heavensward and best tuning/setup is noticeable as of Stormblood raids going forward.
This is completely false and I wish people stopped spreading this RPGMMO bs. It's fine to not engage with anything beyond story, but that doesn't mean that the group content is not best-in-class, that there aren't a myriad of cool free companies and link shells to join, that people aren't always socializing in large-scale multiplayer events like hunts and Eureka, or that it doesn't have the best role-play support of any online game (and it's not even close.) FFXIV is a kickass MMORPG and honestly the best MMORPG on the market at the moment.
My View of FF14 after my first 50 hours
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Honestly the biggest difference between FFXIV and other MMOs is that while MMOs will usually "have" a story, FFXIV IS a story. The plot and worldbuilding are the primary focus with the game being built around it as opposed to the usual MMO method of build a game and then tack some kind of plot on to loosely tie things together.
Van Darnus didn't "attempt" to bring Dallamud down, he did it successfully. That was how 1.0 ended. Alternatively, the final questline from the 1.0 msq had us going around to the various temples and praying...turning Louisoix into the Pheonix primal, which is the version of him you see here.
For those of us who played 1.0, this was fulfilling.
Of course, Louisoix becoming the Phoenix wasn't actually revealed until here in this very raid. Until this, all anyone knew was "somehow Bahamut was stopped, but hell if we know how." This raid was also how Nael being a woman was revealed - for English players, this was a twist and a half due to everyone thinking Nael was a guy. For Japanese players, it was merely a reveal, as the game had never given Nael any voice-acting, and always used gender-neutral pronouns for her. That's harder to do in english without being *incredibly* conspicuous, though.
Learning of Louisoix's fate was formative for my WoL. It's a big part of the reason he so willingly takes on all so many menial chores and quests that many would see as beneath him: it's all part of his campaign to keep people from putting him on a pedestal like Louisoix.
Summoning a primal requires aether and faith. And the people who channeled the aether for Louisoix's ritual of the Twelve may have been praying at the Marks of the Twelve...but the one they really had faith in was Louisoix himself. He was the wise mentor who always knew what to do, the mighty sorcerer who could wield impossible magics, the _man who would save the realm_ if they just supported him. All the pieces were there, and in the moment of crisis, they turned their faith to him. And, desperate to save what he could, he accepted this unintended apotheosis.
As for my WoL...well, you may respect the guy who comes over and helps you muck out the chocobo stable, and you're probably grateful to him. But when you've seen him sweaty and stinky, with feathers in his hair and straw stuck to his face, you're not going to _pray_ to him.
Coils is anything but basic. It’s difficult enough that in later expansions raids will be separated into normal and savage difficulty levels. You do the normal version first, then unlock savage.
Which I REALLY appreciate. Being able to PUG normal mode raids for the story has allowed me to see way more endgame content than I ever managed in WoW, thanks to the social challenges of the 25-man and 40-man raids.
I throughly enjoyed the challenge. It was great fun
So the writer for this raid quest series is Ishikawa, she also writes for the crystal tower raids, several parts of the MSQ (More and more as the games went on), the dark knight questline, the stormblood 8 man raid content and the rogue questline until eventually being made the MAIN scenario writer in shadowbringers and promoted to supervisor in endwalker. Know her name, pretty much everything she touches is gold. She got an actual standing ovation at the first fan fest after shadowbringers because of how good her writing is.
Alchemist questline in ARR was her too.
I know the community memes on Yoshi-P as this one incredible man who singlehandedly fixed the game, but god damn do people need to give the rest of the team more credit. Fortunately, someone's already put up an entire google document full of credits of every version of the game so far, documenting the gradual evolution and changes of the devteam.
And apparently a lot of her being the main writer from ShB onwards is because she got so pissed about making interesting characters only for other writers to unceremoniously kill them off (Moenbryda, Ysayle) that she decided to take over from sheer spite! What a badass
And for a brief moment, we mad her tear up as opposed to the other way around.
She is Queen Writing Midas!
Nael deus Darnus is such a wild ride.
The middle names of Garlean citizens are basically epithets, like titles, and the further down the alphabet your epithet is, the more important. That's why the royal crown has zos as a middle name, why someone as important as an Imperial Legate (imagine someone who is a general and a state senator combined) gets van, etc etc. This Nael going with "deus" doesn't fit into the pattern we know, because it's not a real Garlean epithet, it's just assumed. I suppose it's a big presumptuous reference to the fact this Nael is the servant of a god, hence, deus.
The reveal about Nael actually being Eula _the entire time_ is absolutely crazy, because it was invented because of a translation mistake. Basically in 1.0 there was ambiguity in the script about the gender of the character and the English localization department went with masculine pronouns because eh. Welp, turns out Nael was a woman the whole time and they didn't know until Coils was being written and the whole thing got clarified. So to rectify this, instead of just going with "Nael was a woman the whole time oops" they invented this big chunk of character lore about Eula deliberately masquerading as her brother after he died very early in his political career and that is now CANON it even made it into a freaking official lorebook. It honestly not only adds a bit of interesting flavour to Nael/Eula as a character that doesn't get in the way of anything, it also genuinely helps the Garlean Empire feel less like just any old standard Evil Bad Guys Empire and more like a real, fleshed out nation full of actual three-dimensional characters who are treated just as much like people as the "good guys" are. Nael is no longer just a guy who got brainrotted by Big Dragon Man, suddenly there's also this side of a complicated tragedy over a young man's death and the hardship his sister went through to make him a true legend.
It's also funny because it retroactively paints all of the White Raven's accomplishments in that ironic light. Eula did all that she did for the sake of Nael's reputation, but in the end, it was all by her own hand. Girl should give herself more credit.
for... causing a genocidal apocalypse okay you know what maybe not
Also, Nael's gunhalberd is named Bradamante, after the original Nael's fiancée who impaled herself after finding out about her beloved's death. Eula used it as part of her White Raven disguise.
The Bradamante gunhalberd that we see during the Hildibrand ARR questline is a fake.
It wasn’t quite translation problems, there weren’t plans for nael to be a woman initially but there were fan theories which the devs thought it would be cool to use when it came to coils. Well, every language explained the situation differently so consensus was pretty much non existent. The stuff with Eula came in several expansions later as a way to have a consistent backstory throughout all languages
Just to nit pick, at 3:00 Galactic did not drop a twister on you. The Twister spawns under You, and You trigger it( by not moving), killing yourself and pushing back Galactic into the wall xD
After coils, the other eight man content is accessible through the duty roulette. It would be nice to see coils added, but they would have to Signal the mechanics with a little bit more grace. Those Twisters are nasty!
They would also have to make a Normal version of them, IMO.
Their difficulty is very much overrated. I find Savage content Out Of Reach but coils have done at minimum item level. They just signal mechanics badly. A fresh coat of paint and it's fine.
@@DayleDiamond They would also have to find a way to not have the lengthy cutscenes be a part of the fights themselves.
@@TheIvoryDingo It works for the MSQ roulette and people do that every day. Bigger warning sign on the ground for Twisters, signal when meteors are going to overlap for Nael, and put arrows on the ground for Divebombs so people know where they're headed. Tada!
The twisters Wrecked My Face Like Immediately.. lol
Ah also because you were tired when you finished the last turn you actually did completly finish all of the coils story as you have a few more cutscenes the wrap up the story with alisae
Oh and before you give me flak for not telling you earlier. 1. it was past midnight for you, and 2. I didn't think you were going to push out the video for it pretty much the next day
Well geez! There us sooo much more work to do then!
Fun fact worth noting: that halberd that Nael summons that Hildibrand and Gilgamesh were fighting over... it actually showed up in the 1.0 Hildibrand questline, too. Though... not quite 1.0. Toward the end of the questline. Right near the very end, it turns up in the possession of a random farmer who bought it from a merchant. While helping the farmer tend his field with what turns out to be very explosive material, Hildy ends up miunderstanding a prophecy and thinking he's fated to fight Dalamud himself.
While holding what he believes to be a defunct weapon, he fires the weapon (it's a Gun-halberd, after all), ignites the field, and sends himself flying - setting up for the start of the Hildibrand questline in A Realm Reborn.
Fun fact though... the one that Hildy and Greg fight over later isn't actually the real weapon. The real weapon is called "Bradamante". The one they fight over in ARR is called "Pradamante", and is merely a replica.
The fact you did this before going into Heavensward is REALLY AWESOME. Seriously, it highlights Alisaie so much as a character. I did it much later and I wish I had done it sooner.
Also important to note is cutscenes and character interactions are influenced by content you've done previously, and heavensward quests have changed dialogue if you did coils.
I'm still surprised many of these optional raids are not on the MSQ. They contain a lot of information!
The Bahamut raids WERE required to see later MSQ back when post-ARR was current, and a lot of people quit as a result
The 'Answers' cutscene when you see Loiusoux ascend as Phoenix is the moment I knew FFXIV was more than just a good story with some twists and turns. It's a GREAT story that I needed to follow with every fibre of my being!
"Answers" in general is just... a wild crazy song when you think about it, because hot dang, it is used often in the game, in its original form and in many "remixes" of just pieces of the melody in many cutscenes and it instantly makes any cutscene epic almost. That's to say nothing about a certain cutscene they use it for way later in the game, because holy crap it really hits hard there, lol.
Bit late here, but I've heard other MMOs called MMORPGs with the massive multiplayer online part front and center and the RPG aspects are there to facilitate the game.
FFXIV, on the other hand, is an RPGMMO where the story of an RPG takes front and center and the massive multiplayer online aspect is just to facilitate the game.
Glad you got to do this! I was hesitant to do raiding in FF14, and the lack of CoB support in the roulettes made it very hard to do at the time. Raid stories may not be part of the MSQ progression, but they are still all feed into the overarching story of the game, and often provide additional context if you have completed them. The Alliance Raids and Normal raids can be done by PUGs which means everyone gets to enjoy the content, with Extreme Trials and Savage raids being optional for those who want a coordinated challenge.
I think the sister thing for Nael van Darnus was because in the original language, pronouns aren't always gendered, the armor also makes it unclear, and 1.0 didn't have voice acting, so the translators just went with he. And when it was revealed that van Darnus was a woman they had to come up with an explanation after saying he for all that time.
Some of the Coil fights can still get you killed even if you are fighting at max level with good gear. 😆
One of them kills you _faster_ at max level with good gear. XD
I like to think that the DRK quests are the WoL being tired of playing by the rules after trying to help everyone they meet all the way through ARR and their reward being that they're framed for murder and exiled from Ul'Dah. So their next step is "Fuck everyone, fuck everything, I'm taking justice into my own hands." lol
I just did those on stream last night and it was epic!
So thats why summoners get phoenix and bahamut to summon
Get used to it: every savage raid has a kill-wall, its standard XD
Oh boy youre calling it amazing and youve only just done coils.
*gulp*
So glad you enjoyed this! The Coils series is basically a love letter to all the 1.0 players who stuck with the game. It's basically an epilogue to the 1.0 story before ARR basically moves on to really be its own thing.
The lengths you will go to so as not to voice Urianger's name fulfills me
It's the commitment really that stands out.
CRYSTAL TOWER TIME!!!
The funny thing for me is that coils is /just/ fine. I personally rank it as my least favorite of the 8 man 'normal raids' and it's in the bottom three for the grander "optional but important side stories" that are raid series, trial series, and alliance raid stories. It's not bad, but a lot of it is "Look at all this stuff from a game you haven't and cannot play" and the three characters that survive it, the twins and Urianger, are basically different people by the time heavansward wraps up, because they develop so much, and so far away from where coils leaves them. All the Allagan and Bahamut stuff is great though, so there's that.
I guess when you compare it to newer co tent sure it can seem a bit outdated? Or not as great just because it seems common theme that the game gas gotten significantly better as you get through more of the content.
@@CaffeinatedDad Coils is by no means bad, just definitely where they were finding their footing. I'm soft on ARR as a whole, because once you know what it's doing it's actually pretty good, coils is where I steak my "You ain't seen nothing yet" flag. There is only one bad raid in this game, but I'd hate to taint expectations by saying which one, because who knows you might love it.
Yes hi, msq vampire here. How long you been playing xiv so far and you got vlogs of your play throughs?
I need my fix man!
I stream here on youtube! Thus far finished ARR working on HW!
@@CaffeinatedDad neat, I’ll tune in then
I'm sooo glad you got to see this content ❤❤. I love this raid and so many people miss it because its optional and difficult! This to me is the true end of 1.0.
So glad Galactic takes you on these MUST-EXPERIENCE rides even the Coils! Many new players skip Coils because they hear oh it's difficult to find parties/takes long/mechanics are difficult, and they never see these mind-blowing revelations! Thank you Galactic for doing WHAT MUST BE DONE!!
Oh sweet little summer child... you still dont know what will come next with Shadowbringer and EndWallker...
galactic doing god's work
Final Fantasy XIV is a Final Fantasy single-player JRPG narrative with your character as the protagonist, wrapped in MMORPG features.
Honestly, I can't wait for the thoughts on Hildebrand questline once it's done (because it is absolute bananas) and the post ARR quests, if you're doing that.
This will become more obviously alpha-chad power level later, but it's good to keep in mind that Bahamut was so powerful that, even as his own aether was dispersing, he was able to enthrall another primal.
I wish I could get a Duty Finder group up for The Binding Coil or Bahamut. Sadly my friends moved away from FFXIV so I can't get an unsynced group going.
Honestly, they might want to make a just Story-Only version of the raid just so more people can watch it. It is such a good story!
Onwards to Heavenward and beyond! The writing will continue to hook you. And make sure to hit up all the Normal Raids and Alliance Raids!
1. Coils is the true ending of ARR. It gives so much closure to 1.0
2. The Coils were actually pretty controversial when they came out.
Because they were so much more difficult than just about anything else in the game at the time, most players never got to see some pretty important story content
The outcry was heard though as from here on:
A) Raids were made into side stories. Good on its own, but not VITAL to understand the story going forward
B) Raids were separated into Normal and Savage versions
Eons is a bit much. The whole world came into it's current form some 12000 years ago and the Allagans were around "just" 5000ish years before the start of the game, while eon to my knowledge is used for millions of years and upward. Besides, Dragons are functually immortal to begin with, and will live forever, unless they die of illnes of injury, to the point that some of them can barely seperate what happened yesterday from what happened a thousand years ago. We also don't know how much of a mind this primal had, compared to his physical counterpart, before the Allagans killed him and the other Dragons summoned a primal in his general shape, but bigger.
I always try to take my sprout friends who managed to finish ARR through all of the Coils unsynched since it's such an important lore milestone that not everyone gets to experience because it's "Optional." I'm glad you guys got to run this!!
Over the course of the entire story of FF14 you're just constantly learning how advanced and messed up the Allagans really were
The raiding only gets better. I always complete some savage but I have never completed every savage. I am making Dawntrail my expansion to go back and do that in addition to the Dawntrail savage raids. After Coils the savage content becomes the unofficial story with the game cannon sticking to the normal modes but there are still some great revelations in the savage fights of what could have happened (but didn’t) if the villain got closer to victory.
lol at "urangutang" -- I call him "Orange-r". I've done the coil a long time ago and yes this story line is awesome.
Still some of my favourite raid music in FF14 history, back-to-back bangers
optional content too btw, free trial btw, actually High quality MMO with passionate devs who care about the customer and respect your time btw. =P good vid. such an interesting raid series
New subscriber. This game gets better and better. I'm looking forward to seeing you experience this game. It's been a wild ride for me. I experienced a lot of those, "and then I died instantly'" moments!
I can't recommend enough going back and at least trying to do coils at min ilvl with echo turned off. The fights are really fun and challenging. I've finished coils, alexander, and omega so far in my MINE static and coils has been my favorite of those 3.
Nael fight in synch is crazy good
Also you'll be rewarded for this by not only having some extra context later on, but some dialogue will actually change since you finished this.
The thing that upsets me most about Coils is that it's not mandatory content. The story of Coils if taken in the context of the greater story arc for Alisaie and Alphinaud greatly informs why they're so dedicated to the salvation of Eorzea. If you consider everything they go through during Coils their motivation makes much more sense than without it.
You lucky man got to do Coils before Heavensward and Co. By the time I saw Coils it felt so odd to hear those ARR Voice Actors after being used to the arguably way better ones from later on
Coils is so important to the story that I'm still baffled it didn't also get an accessibility rework while they were streamlining the rest of ARR. here's hoping that happens someday.
I always advise new ppl to do coils if only for the story.
Alliance raid story next? You'll need more than just 2 ppl for that one tho xD, atleast it's in the roulette.
Something I love about final fantasy XIV raids is the attention to detail even in something as basic as arena floors, the bahaumut arena is based on the scientific tree of life which is supposed to show the evolution of all life from a single common ancestor (The tree of life, also called a phylogenetic tree, is a graphic tool that biologists use to portray evolutionary relationships among plants, animals and all other forms of life.). The thing is bahaumut is floating above the arena as if he's above all life on the planet and that we are literally beneath him in both contexts.
Very glad you did Coils gor the story. Running it with Galsctic was an excellent choice.
If you ever wanted to do some of these fights "properly", do Twintania, Nael, and Bahamut. Then, watch a clear of UCoB (Unending Coils of Bahamut).
The middle "name" of Garleans is their rank/title. So Gaius van Balsar snd Nael van Darnud have the same title/rank. Van is approximately a great general. Nael then dropped the van for Deus (as is deus ex machina. As in God).
Besides just being fun colors to look at, why UCOB?
@@felixamari157 UCoB is based off the fights I listed. It's fun to see the ramped up version of the original fights.
@@heylookitsnana I am aware. But like I said, pretty lights.
The lore in Coils is amazing and it was the first time I really got invested in the lore of FF14. I understand why they removed Coils from the Raids Roulette, but its tragic that people who dont seek out the side content will miss it.
Final Fantasy XIV is a Final Fantasy game first and an MMO second, and that's what I love about it.
Coils is honestly the best story in ARR imo. It's too bad you didn't do the story with stream. I hope now that you see that "side content" is still main story related, you will also stream it. This may be a hot take but there are many of us who would trade in any hildibrand stream for raid story content on stream.
Bahamuts Teraflare is still today one of the most epic moments in gaming history.
The music swells and its almost like either he dies or we do
It is. Especially because at that time this was very surprising because you didnt have that kind of cinematic break that leaves from one phase to another. WoW bosses had it but it was not that directed. Now these days multiple encounters in FFXIV have it but Bahamut was a mindblowing premiere.
Anyone else looking forward to seeing Dad's sprout bloom?
Now its time to reaction after he see "infamous" massage .... "It is recommended that you set aside sufficient time to view these scenes in their entirety." ....
This is an excellent capstone to ARR and I'm glad Galactic got the Dad to go through it.
I have to applaud your ability to get names so wrong it actually erases the correct one from my brain until I take time to reboot it.
Probably the Best story until Shadowbringers right here!
Coils: Wonder Twin powers, activate!
It's always the same reaction when they complete Coils.
have fun raiding the Crystal Tower
The Coils should be part of the MSQ in my opinion
Other MMOs are MMOs with a story in it.
FF14 is a story with an MMO in it.
Deus = "day us" it's Latin for deity or God
Mercadia is pronounced Mer-ka-dia, sicne you asked :p
Yeah, the coils were something special. It's an incredible raid and it has a beautiful story and music. There,s something solemn and epic at the same time and that final fight when the music swells and bahamut does his mega flare is an incredible moment. I really want to try the Ultimate version of the fight soemday
But it's Meracydia, though.
I think you have a tiny but significant misconception about the purpose of the "Alligators" as you put it. Bahamut is their weapon. They intentionally torture the dragons and release him on their enemies. It's like a screw you all button that they can press at any time.
also the fact that he's the power source for Dalamud, whose primary function was to absorb solar energy and beam it to the crystal tower.
How does he not know how to read? Or is that his shstick
These pronunciations are cracking me up (not like I did any better). Looking forward to your Crystal tower analysis, and eventually the Heavensward raid comparisons to ARR. Congrats on your journey so far!
I did same thing with other youtuber - helped him to clear coils on what is pretty much story mode, with promise that we will clear it later as a full group with min ilvl, no echo.
It was a hard fight.
Most fights in the raid are just annoying.
But Bahamut Prime was the first time when we had to finally get into a voice chat and have proper callouts.
It is a hard fight. Really hard.
But it is so rewarding to see when all mechanics work together.
Both tanks have to do their job properly - kite boss and add to specific places and keep them there.
Manage their mitigations at correct timings.
Know when it's beneficial to do the damage burst.
Bahamut Prime is one raid of a kind. Frankly, newer raids can be harder. They are faster and they require better coordination.
But none have same mechanics that Bahamut has or same responsibilities.
It is a shame that this raid is not adapted for a story and duty roulette since, for example, O12 (last of Stormblood raids) that IS in duty roulette (and in free trial) and is pretty hard raid that requires players to understand what they are doing and O12 kinda almost has this part where tanks have to keep two targets separate, but it's not as important as with Bahamut.
One of the raids in this game is outright required to proceed further through the story (won't say more to avoid spoilers but aside the fact that it appears in like 9/10 of raid roulettes - it's a really good raid series) but realistically - every Normal and Alliance raid is required to do because every single one is adding important insight to the world of FFXIV as a whole (ok, not every single one - Nier raid series is pretty inconcequential and brings more confusion than anything else even to people who have good knowledge of Drakengard/Nier series but that's the only outlier) or directly to the story - bringing characters, concepts and plot points from raid of one expansion to the core narrative of another (or not, it will depend on what developers will want to do with it).
For someone who had to live with complete change of narrative and dropping of the narrative plot points in their favorite games (would it be complete design change in Dragon Age 2 or Mass Effect 2, complete abandonment of plot points in different Megaman series or even the fact that in Baldurs Gate 2 you start with Minsc and Jaheira even if you killed them in BG1 and game literally forces you to deal with it), seeing this dedication to continuity is just incredible!
I started playing in 2.0 and had started on Turn 1 but only came back during Shadowbringers. Going through the rest of Coils as optional content to do for funsies was absolutely wild because I didn’t know that the ending of the cinematic was hidden at the end of the raid. This game is incredible.
Most of the raids have such a good story it seems wild that you can find quality storytelling in what's called "side content". Hope you keep enjoying, I think you will :D
Now this is why I love Final Fantasy 14. It's an online game but it's story is on par, if not better than, stand alone RPGS.
If there's one thing this game needs, it's a community who'll help newbies do stuff like Coils completely blind, because by god is it an experience.
The story gets better from here.
4:30 If you notice, that 'weird robot' has a similar shape to the treants we see in Black Shroud. Its a robot tree lol.
What’s fascinating about this is that it is purely optional. You are not required to beat this before moving on in the story despite how crucial of a story element this is. Granted, it’s cake now thanks to unsync but the story here is way too important to skip.
i could never find a party for this raid so I had to solo them like last week
Yeah, outside of active FCs and streamers, your not gonna get parties for Coils.
in general what you have to do is what was done here- find a friend or FC mate that's max level who will solo it for you. I always offer if I know someone's going through ARR for the first time.
there's a reason that a LOT of people clasify FFXIV as a RPG-MMO, its very story first, online game second. if you enjoyed how they wrapped up a part of the storyline neatly then you're in for a treat as you go further into said storyline.
I'm fairly sure your pal Galactic will be able to guide you to any of that which is off the MSQ, like Coils here, but there is so much good writing to come, Ishikawa is responsible for much of that.
So, Coils is not indicative of what future raids will be like. The big mantra for FFXIV is that this is a Final Fantasy game first and an MMO second. Which means, locking story content behind extremely difficult content that half of the player base will never do, goes against that mantra.
So, starting in Heavensward, they design two versions of raids, one that is about as hard as an extreme trial and one that is proper raid level difficulty.
Coils was the Dev Team's first attempt at high tier raid content for FF14, and only the 2nd coil has a Savage version.... it lives up to the Savage epithet. Minimum Item Level No Echo on all of Coils is no joke and still as hard as modern raid progression. They learned a lot and trimmed a lot of fat for Heavensward and best tuning/setup is noticeable as of Stormblood raids going forward.
FF14 isn't so much a MMORPG, as it's a RPGMMO.
This is completely false and I wish people stopped spreading this RPGMMO bs.
It's fine to not engage with anything beyond story, but that doesn't mean that the group content is not best-in-class, that there aren't a myriad of cool free companies and link shells to join, that people aren't always socializing in large-scale multiplayer events like hunts and Eureka, or that it doesn't have the best role-play support of any online game (and it's not even close.)
FFXIV is a kickass MMORPG and honestly the best MMORPG on the market at the moment.
What armor is he wearing ? I’m in stormblood now and don’t think I have that set.
Odin armor and i think the WAR class helm
@@TheeChaste thank you so much I’ve been looking online this whole time and couldn’t find it haha
@@TheeChaste that means he farmed the fates where Odin shows up? Dang man I’ve never seen him before
was it bahamut screaming at the end of arr tho?