Tilt is a true American hero! His impact on chronicling the stories of his SOG brothers and all of the support units that worked along side them will have a lasting impact on history. I never miss a podcast where he makes an appearance. Reached out to him for permission to use some of his content in a project. What a gentleman. Thanks you Tilt! 🇺🇸
My hope is all of these American hero’s who the highest levels government used like throw aways completed their dangerous missions without the recognition they deserved. That they continue to tell their amazing historical events are finally given all the accolades and make millions of dollars in our capitalistic society. The more the better. Thank you for sharing these events.
SOG History doesn't exist in History books when it comes to Today's Generation of "schooling" . So good to have SOG Operators truly express themselves in UA-cam as well as the books written by the legends who set the foundation in Today's Special Operations wisdom.
great interview. I remember reading voraciously books about MACV-SOG and LRRP when I was in like 6th-9th grade and going out in the woods having BB gun wars. the influence for me to join the service after high school. thanks for stirring up those memories with this SF Legend
No body believes this stuff, the masses are so brain washed against warriors it is sickning. Until a bunch of civilians are hurt, that will not change, sadly.
In a world where we throw around the word “hero” a little too loosely….. there are real ones like John and the men that he served with. I could listen to these stories all day long.
Mr. Meyer(I have to much respect for him to call him Tilt)is an American treasure as well as a hero. The men of MACV/SOG were WARRIORS and their stories of sacrifice,heroism and loss are the stuff of legend and were these deeds done in the Viking era the sagas and songs of these warriors would fill the halls. God bless and keep these men both American and their "Little People."
Tilt is the best!! Great human being. We need more people like him and Jack. Our government needs a complete overhaul!! Bring in younger people and more military personnel to turn this mess around!!
I have to read his book and I'm really looking forward to reading it. John Stryer Meyer, just like Jocko, himself is one of my role models and inspirations. Those guys are awesome! It's funny( and this is still kind of related to the subject at hand and the war in Vietnam), not too long ago, I was watching the documentary ''Jane Fonda In Five Acts'' and of course, the infamous ''Hanoi Jane'' photo from Vietnam inevitably came up at one point in the film and Fonda was talking about how she'll go to her grave regretting that photo( which is something that she has often said as of late) and she was also talking about her opposition to the Vietnam War and how it brought her into conflict with a lot of the Vietnam War veterans( and how it STILL does to this day). I know what SOME veterans think about the hippies and Jane Fonda but I've often wondered what guys like John Stryker Meyer, Oliver Stone, Dale Dye and Roger Hayden think about them. Maybe it's just me but I've never really heard them comment that much about the backlash against the war in the Vietnam. They must have some opinions and thoughts on it.
If Clint Eastwood, Tom Hanks, and Steven Spielberg do not come together and make a reenactment series about these guys in the style of Band of Brothers and the Pacific ASAP, we are gonna lose the chance. These guys aint gonna be around much longer, and neither are the mentioned hollywood producers that will do these guys' justice.
Maybe as producers but they need someone who won’t try and portray this subject with such a Patriotic lens it needs to be dark. Like Ed Burns and David Simon in lens of Generation Kill
Tilt is legend,this was among the highest,technical,& primal warfare can get, listen to his language & how sharp this man still is about his craft,alot of people don't realize how advanced war has been especially "TheSecretWar"
Dear God, protect this man and his compatriots in all they do. Let them know how much we all appreciate them and all they have sacrificed for us. Let the younger generations realize the people that have given so much in order for them to breathe free air and live free lives. To all service members past present and future thank you. Thank you Jack Carr for bringing these stories and history to light. Thank you tilt and welcome home!
My uncle Phil Hunt was a Green beret their as well he used to tell stories about it when I was younger but I was to small to remember the only thing I do remember is he became really close to a mountain yard and he moved out of state I talked to him on the phone about the movie we where soldiers he said they where at the bottom of the mountain engaging as they where moving up when that battle was happening he passed away few years ago man what I wouldn't give to sit and talk with him just one more time. Thank you for bringing these vets on the podcast
One of the best guests on the show. It took me away from your podcasts for a while as I got invested in the SOGCAST for the last few months! I really love the special forces community and think that you guys should all seriously consider running the planet. Warrior leaders! I think the world would be a better place if it was a prerequisite to have served at the most dangerous level before serving politically.
Yeah, on The Baby Killer label, I've always wondered what he thinks about The Hippies and the Anti-war protesters. I've heard some other Vietnam War veterans give their opinions on the protesters and the hippies( and usually, it's not too favorable, even if they support their right to protest and their right to freedom of speech) but I don't think that I've ever really heard him give his thoughts in-depth on the whole Anti-war movement.
Ref secure commo at 1:31:00 In 1982-1984 I was the RTO for the arctic recon platoon of the 4/9th Inf (later 172 Light Inf Bde) in Fort Wainwright, Alaska, that reference brought back painful memories! The KY-38 cabled to the PRC-77 with lithium batteries for both was heavy as hell! That added to the combat load of ammo, C-Rats, arctic canteens, heavy down sleeping bag, clothes weighted well over 100 lbs and this was humped on snowshoes up and down mountains.
Hi Jack, love all your books and I remember the first time I heard Tilt on Jocko, I had to park the car up and just sit and listen in awe- Top blokes. From 🇬🇧
Tilt and his SOG brothers have my utmost respect. Truly badass and an iconic group in a generation that media has painted for no patriotism and public service. I personally know better and his stories are crazy and reinforce the good people we had.
Thank you for the information. My uncle Gary served in Vietnam, as did my Late Uncle Milan. My dad served in the Army from 1965 through 1968 but he was luckier than his brother Gary. Since my dad enlisted he got to spend his 3 years in Germany.
I was in Vietnam 67-68. I heard of an enemy battalion commander who turned himself in after an arc light killed his whole battalion. During interrogation he said that the only time they(the enemy) didn't know what the Americans were doing, was when the American radios broke down.
I would really enjoy hearing about any K9 use and tactic as well as counter tactics. Always enjoy these podcasts gives me a little nostalgia from the books I read in my youth, keep up the great work.
Uncommon Valor came out when I was 13 and shaped my view of the military and the Vietnam War. Loved that movie so much. Sailor ended up being my role model unintentionally and subconsciously lol.And I read Soldier Of Fortune religiously from 1982 to its end. Loved that magazine and Robert K. Brown, Peter Kokalis,and John Donovan and of course Dale Dye. Went in the Army at 17 in 87. 6 yrs service and 2 Deployments. God bless those good men who gave this young man great examples of manhood to emulate. Thank you for bringing this all back to me.
FYI. Some of my friends who are VN vets from Rhode Island, were invited to the White House to visit with President Reagan. Their group was called the "Green Capers." Reagan told them "you guys did not lose the war, it was lost right here in this building."
I was a radio repairman in 1973 and I repaired radios with crypto in them not all of them did ,they had a hatch that you would open and punch in the crypto code and close it. If the hatch was opened again the code was wiped out. I had to have what the Army called then the was a Crypto Secret Clearance to be able to workout on them. I went to school for my AIT at Fort Gordon Ga in Signal Towers
Don’t forget about your Hmong Allie’s during the secret war in Laos. The ones who were left behind when the Americans left in Laos to fend for themselves.
Read “Across the Fence” last year. I will never forget when my husband came home from Vietnam and told me that the government was lying to about being in Cambodia and Laos. He was a door gunner flying with you boys into those countries.
I sure miss my Father he wasn't S.O.G. but he was a L.R.R.P Ranger for 2 tours after a terrible time with the 7th Armored Cav in 65-66 he was at this day in time still an incredible shot I'm from Mississippi and under him I won 13 state Championships and 9 National Championships until I was 1st Alternate in the Beijing Olympics..He was better than me at 100-1,000yd CMP-DCM him shooting a Winchester M1 Garand "Windy-13" and my Spoiled Ass shooting a Colt Match Target and M1A...
My truck gun is a mossberg 930 loaded with 2 3/4 00 buck, and 2 extra velcro sleeves one with slugs and 1 with 00 buck if that aint enough send in the calvary units.
It’s a good thing I read a few books recently on SOG and related areas so I could follow pretty well😊. I am retired military, but mostly aviation, albeit a few years working with Air Force Special Operations.
The High Standard HDM was an integrally suppressed .22lr pistol developed for the OSS in WW2. That’s the pistol he was referring to when he was taking about dealing with tracking dogs.
Really enjoyed this interview, thank you! Jack, any chance you could do an interview with British sniper Craig Harrison? I really enjoy your interviews with the SAS guys and in general you are a great interviewer.
its a cryin shame no one in hollywood has ever done any REAL movies pertaining to these men and their missions in southeast asia , a guy like Jerry shriver would be a great one ,Bob Howard ,Tilt ,laterno and so many others.
How do these guys handle fear? Is it the same way people who do extreme sports/extreme anything do it? Kind of an adrenaline rush type of thing? Fear must be PARALYZING in some of these stories
Be a man among men Rhodesian army! i remember the ads in sof magazine to become a mercenary in rhodesia. i also remember the january of 1987 cover was clint eastwood as gunny tom highway !
Great 👍 episode and remarkable accounts of his experience and if more interested in MACV SOG veterans and other S.F units like LRRPs and Marine Force Reccon in Vietnam,then the podcast called the Reconnaissance cast will be your choice. Done by a young man who is more interested in the legacy of SOG and other S F elements. Done some interviews and read books by the veterans and would be nice to check it out too.
How tall is Tilt? When I first saw him on Jocko I always thought he was smaller but was surprised when I saw him standing next to a few guys on a tactical gear video.
i have read several MACV SOG books. There's no doubt these guys had huge balls and pulled off some amazing missions. However, I wonder what their overall effectiveness and impact on the strategic war was. My gut feeling says it was very little, unfortunately.
ACtually when we went into cambodia these guys had targets lined up for us and when troops discovered food, weapons and ammo caches they would call in bombing missions and the majority of them set off a high rate of secondary explosions and some of these burned and exploded for 2-3 days after the primary missions . they actually found the center in cambodia where the war inn the south was being run through. No one knows why but when our men got close to this target and where preparing to launch an attack to over run this site but were called off the target since it was past the original demarcation line Nixon had set for the incursioni think it was either 15-25 miles across the border .
Tilt is a true American hero! His impact on chronicling the stories of his SOG brothers and all of the support units that worked along side them will have a lasting impact on history. I never miss a podcast where he makes an appearance. Reached out to him for permission to use some of his content in a project. What a gentleman. Thanks you Tilt! 🇺🇸
Thanks for the shout-out, Jack! And I always enjoy Tilt - amazing stories for days and days. Keep killing it, gentlemen
Keep rocking Tilt. He runs a great podcast himself. SOG guys are the real deal.
Just finished the episode. Phenomenal experiences, thank you for sharing.
Airborne baby
Great interview with John Stryker Meyer, true legit Warrior Patriot and badass legend of the MACV SOG unit during the Vietnam War.
He has such an incredible memory. He really is an amazing guy. What an absolute national treasure.
Man is a stone cold killer, has been there and done that.
Wears new balances.
My hope is all of these American hero’s who the highest levels government used like throw aways completed their dangerous missions without the recognition they deserved. That they continue to tell their amazing historical events are finally given all the accolades and make millions of dollars in our capitalistic society. The more the better. Thank you for sharing these events.
SOG History doesn't exist in History books when it comes to Today's Generation of "schooling" . So good to have SOG Operators truly express themselves in UA-cam as well as the books written by the legends who set the foundation in Today's Special Operations wisdom.
Snowflakes thinks it's to dark to teach
All he was through, he shows no emotion. Very upbeat person. Sense of humor. Love listening to this hero. Brave and fearless man
great interview. I remember reading voraciously books about MACV-SOG and LRRP when I was in like 6th-9th grade and going out in the woods having BB gun wars. the influence for me to join the service after high school. thanks for stirring up those memories with this SF Legend
Ha! I did all of these too...small world
This is by far the best podcast ever and so is all the SOG casts with Jako. Get this man on Joe Rogan and blow the masses minds!
No body believes this stuff, the masses are so brain washed against warriors it is sickning. Until a bunch of civilians are hurt, that will not change, sadly.
In a world where we throw around the word “hero” a little too loosely….. there are real ones like John and the men that he served with. I could listen to these stories all day long.
Mr. Meyer(I have to much respect for him to call him Tilt)is an American treasure as well as a hero. The men of MACV/SOG were WARRIORS and their stories of sacrifice,heroism and loss are the stuff of legend and were these deeds done in the Viking era the sagas and songs of these warriors would fill the halls. God bless and keep these men both American and their "Little People."
Lmao, you not calling him by his nickname is in no way showing your respect. There Aint no disrespect when it's literal what he went by 😅
Tilt is the best!! Great human being. We need more people like him and Jack. Our government needs a complete overhaul!! Bring in younger people and more military personnel to turn this mess around!!
Listening to Jocko in 2018, with John Stryker Meyer, got me back into reading again. I can't wait to watch this!!!
You and me both my friend! Read all of his books a few times (PS pick up WTF, and Dynamites book if you have already)🙌🇺🇸🇺🇸
already read them... hahaha@@scottm6638
I have to read his book and I'm really looking forward to reading it. John Stryer Meyer, just like Jocko, himself is one of my role models and inspirations. Those guys are awesome!
It's funny( and this is still kind of related to the subject at hand and the war in Vietnam), not too long ago, I was watching the documentary ''Jane Fonda In Five Acts'' and of course, the infamous ''Hanoi Jane'' photo from Vietnam inevitably came up at one point in the film and Fonda was talking about how she'll go to her grave regretting that photo( which is something that she has often said as of late) and she was also talking about her opposition to the Vietnam War and how it brought her into conflict with a lot of the Vietnam War veterans( and how it STILL does to this day).
I know what SOME veterans think about the hippies and Jane Fonda but I've often wondered what guys like John Stryker Meyer, Oliver Stone, Dale Dye and Roger Hayden think about them. Maybe it's just me but I've never really heard them comment that much about the backlash against the war in the Vietnam. They must have some opinions and thoughts on it.
Same here. I’ve read tilts, dicks, and nicks
If Clint Eastwood, Tom Hanks, and Steven Spielberg do not come together and make a reenactment series about these guys in the style of Band of Brothers and the Pacific ASAP, we are gonna lose the chance. These guys aint gonna be around much longer, and neither are the mentioned hollywood producers that will do these guys' justice.
Spielberg? No! hanks? No thanks!
Eastwood? No, he's 6 pictures past his retirement
Mel Gibson yes!
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Tarantino? It would be something
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Maybe as producers but they need someone who won’t try and portray this subject with such a Patriotic lens it needs to be dark. Like Ed Burns and David Simon in lens of Generation Kill
Mr. Myer, is the Man!
Thank you, John and Jack, for your service.
Tilt is legend,this was among the highest,technical,& primal warfare can get, listen to his language & how sharp this man still is about his craft,alot of people don't realize how advanced war has been especially "TheSecretWar"
Tilt is a special guy, thanks for sharing him with us Jack.
Tilt is a good man, has my upmost respect.
Tilt Meyer. American hero and living legend.
Dear God, protect this man and his compatriots in all they do. Let them know how much we all appreciate them and all they have sacrificed for us. Let the younger generations realize the people that have given so much in order for them to breathe free air and live free lives. To all service members past present and future thank you. Thank you Jack Carr for bringing these stories and history to light. Thank you tilt and welcome home!
My uncle Phil Hunt was a Green beret their as well he used to tell stories about it when I was younger but I was to small to remember the only thing I do remember is he became really close to a mountain yard and he moved out of state I talked to him on the phone about the movie we where soldiers he said they where at the bottom of the mountain engaging as they where moving up when that battle was happening he passed away few years ago man what I wouldn't give to sit and talk with him just one more time. Thank you for bringing these vets on the podcast
One of the best guests on the show. It took me away from your podcasts for a while as I got invested in the SOGCAST for the last few months!
I really love the special forces community and think that you guys should all seriously consider running the planet. Warrior leaders! I think the world would be a better place if it was a prerequisite to have served at the most dangerous level before serving politically.
I read all of the SOG books in my early 20’s. I am 59 now. lol watching this Podcast.
Really cool that jocko supported the sogcast.
Pulled my Car15 out for a cleaning while listening to Tilt!
Are you a baby killer?
- “Only when I’m hungry”
Yeah, on The Baby Killer label, I've always wondered what he thinks about The Hippies and the Anti-war protesters. I've heard some other Vietnam War veterans give their opinions on the protesters and the hippies( and usually, it's not too favorable, even if they support their right to protest and their right to freedom of speech) but I don't think that I've ever really heard him give his thoughts in-depth on the whole Anti-war movement.
Ref secure commo at 1:31:00
In 1982-1984 I was the RTO for the arctic recon platoon of the 4/9th Inf (later 172 Light Inf Bde) in Fort Wainwright, Alaska, that reference brought back painful memories! The KY-38 cabled to the PRC-77 with lithium batteries for both was heavy as hell! That added to the combat load of ammo, C-Rats, arctic canteens, heavy down sleeping bag, clothes weighted well over 100 lbs and this was humped on snowshoes up and down mountains.
I can’t Get me enough of Mr.Tilt’s and his friends stories!!! I love this man🤘
I truly appreciate wise news and what they are doing for Veteran's and our community! God bless!
Definitely one of your best episodes!
Hi Jack, love all your books and I remember the first time I heard Tilt on Jocko, I had to park the car up and just sit and listen in awe- Top blokes. From 🇬🇧
The man the myth the legend himself TILT
Tilt and his SOG brothers have my utmost respect. Truly badass and an iconic group in a generation that media has painted for no patriotism and public service. I personally know better and his stories are crazy and reinforce the good people we had.
I could listen to tilt talk forever
Plz make us a documentary series or a move whatever doesn’t matter. I’ve to see your art come to life living these men’s life in Vietnam
Can somebody please make these stories into tv series (apple,HBO)
Tilt is one of my favorite people...of whom I have not yet met personally!
Thank you for the information. My uncle Gary served in Vietnam, as did my Late Uncle Milan. My dad served in the Army from 1965 through 1968 but he was luckier than his brother Gary. Since my dad enlisted he got to spend his 3 years in Germany.
Awesome talk
Tilt is a living legend. I’m reading his book, Across the Fence…amazing read!!
I was in Vietnam 67-68. I heard of an enemy battalion commander who turned himself in after an arc light killed his whole battalion. During interrogation he said that the only time they(the enemy) didn't know what the Americans were doing, was when the American radios broke down.
These are awesome conversations to catalog for future generations.
great interview. Tilt is a legend!
Great stuff...2 of my favorites!
I would really enjoy hearing about any K9 use and tactic as well as counter tactics. Always enjoy these podcasts gives me a little nostalgia from the books I read in my youth, keep up the great work.
Amazing interview, thank you so much !
Uncommon Valor came out when I was 13 and shaped my view of the military and the Vietnam War. Loved that movie so much. Sailor ended up being my role model unintentionally and subconsciously lol.And I read Soldier Of Fortune religiously from 1982 to its end. Loved that magazine and Robert K. Brown, Peter Kokalis,and John Donovan and of course Dale Dye. Went in the Army at 17 in 87. 6 yrs service and 2 Deployments. God bless those good men who gave this young man great examples of manhood to emulate. Thank you for bringing this all back to me.
I’ve seen John on many podcasts and I gotta say that the guy always seems to be in a great mood. Seems like a swell guy to be around.
FYI. Some of my friends who are VN vets from Rhode Island, were invited to the White House to visit with President Reagan. Their group was called the "Green Capers." Reagan told them "you guys did not lose the war, it was lost right here in this building."
Enjoyed the cast keep it up! Thanks gentlemen
Thanks for the great interview and quality entertainment.
Thank you, shared!!
I was a radio repairman in 1973 and I repaired radios with crypto in them not all of them did ,they had a hatch that you would open and punch in the crypto code and close it. If the hatch was opened again the code was wiped out. I had to have what the Army called then the was a Crypto Secret Clearance to be able to workout on them. I went to school for my AIT at Fort Gordon Ga in Signal Towers
Another great show! Where can you get the Hardy books that are in reprint? Thanks!
This was great, and the perfect follow on from jockos podcast with extra back info about everything
Thank you.
I'd watch John Styker Meyer and Jack Carr watch paint dry. Amazing podcast- thank you both, gentlemen.
Fascinating story’s about SOG
I love listening to these stories
Great interviewing
Great interview. Great people
Heck ya I can’t wait to read SOG Chronicles 2
Great guest amazing podcast
Thank you for your service !🙏🇺🇸🎉
Don’t forget about your Hmong Allie’s during the secret war in Laos. The ones who were left behind when the Americans left in Laos to fend for themselves.
Never seen napalm dropped neither.
What a legend this guy is.
🦋 Oh my goodness I love this podcast so much. Thank you thank you thank you million thank youse.
Tilt rules!!!
That was an amazing podcast.
Need more sog chronicles Tilt!
Some amazing stories from a true hero. All I can say is "Jeez". 👍😉👍
really like John good show 85
Read “Across the Fence” last year. I will never forget when my husband came home from Vietnam and told me that the government was lying to about being in Cambodia and Laos. He was a door gunner flying with you boys into those countries.
I love Johns books and podcast. Was there ever a book about the spy who betrayed the missions? I would love to read another book of his.
I sure miss my Father he wasn't S.O.G. but he was a L.R.R.P Ranger for 2 tours after a terrible time with the 7th Armored Cav in 65-66 he was at this day in time still an incredible shot I'm from Mississippi and under him I won 13 state Championships and 9 National Championships until I was 1st Alternate in the Beijing Olympics..He was better than me at 100-1,000yd CMP-DCM him shooting a Winchester M1 Garand "Windy-13" and my Spoiled Ass shooting a Colt Match Target and M1A...
There's got be a movie made on SOG and John's books.
BEST SONG ABOUT THE ERA:
I Was Only 19.
The movie seemed so authentic.
My truck gun is a mossberg 930 loaded with 2 3/4 00 buck, and 2 extra velcro sleeves one with slugs and 1 with 00 buck if that aint enough send in the calvary units.
It’s a good thing I read a few books recently on SOG and related areas so I could follow pretty well😊. I am retired military, but mostly aviation, albeit a few years working with Air Force Special Operations.
The High Standard HDM was an integrally suppressed .22lr pistol developed for the OSS in WW2. That’s the pistol he was referring to when he was taking about dealing with tracking dogs.
Across The Fence was one of my favorite reads, years ago. I need to read more of his other books. Which should I read next?
My Papps was a grunt in 67-68. He still hates them.
Really enjoyed this interview, thank you!
Jack, any chance you could do an interview with British sniper Craig Harrison? I really enjoy your interviews with the SAS guys and in general you are a great interviewer.
Amazing 🎙️
This is the best
He needs a Movie or a series
A1 had many versions. Straight 6, attack, passenger, guppie (asw radar) queen ECM.
I'm wondering what that hammer gun on the wall is, shown during your commercials.
its a cryin shame no one in hollywood has ever done any REAL movies pertaining to these men and their missions in southeast asia , a guy like Jerry shriver would be a great one ,Bob Howard ,Tilt ,laterno and so many others.
Imagine having Tilt as your grandpa.
Mr. Meyer looks and sounds young for a Vietnam veteran.
How do these guys handle fear? Is it the same way people who do extreme sports/extreme anything do it? Kind of an adrenaline rush type of thing? Fear must be PARALYZING in some of these stories
Hello, Jack Carr.
Have you interviewed Malcolm Nance regarding his book, "Defeating Isis"?
Be a man among men Rhodesian army! i remember the ads in sof magazine to become a mercenary in rhodesia. i also remember the january of 1987 cover was clint eastwood as gunny tom highway !
Great 👍 episode and remarkable accounts of his experience and if more interested in MACV SOG veterans and other S.F units like LRRPs and Marine Force Reccon in Vietnam,then the podcast called the Reconnaissance cast will be your choice.
Done by a young man who is more interested in the legacy of SOG and other S F elements.
Done some interviews and read books by the veterans and would be nice to check it out too.
Great Interview. I was af at udorn and nkp.
How tall is Tilt? When I first saw him on Jocko I always thought he was smaller but was surprised when I saw him standing next to a few guys on a tactical gear video.
If i remember correctly hes about 6’4, its in one of jockos podcast i forgot which one.
Did Eldon Bargewell really die in a lawnmower accident?
Browning Hi Power 9mm held 13 in mag 1 in chamber after market magazine held 15 mag plus 1 in chamber
i have read several MACV SOG books. There's no doubt these guys had huge balls and pulled off some amazing missions. However, I wonder what their overall effectiveness and impact on the strategic war was. My gut feeling says it was very little, unfortunately.
ACtually when we went into cambodia these guys had targets lined up for us and when troops discovered food, weapons and ammo caches they would call in bombing missions and the majority of them set off a high rate of secondary explosions and some of these burned and exploded for 2-3 days after the primary missions . they actually found the center in cambodia where the war inn the south was being run through. No one knows why but when our men got close to this target and where preparing to launch an attack to over run this site but were called off the target since it was past the original demarcation line Nixon had set for the incursioni think it was either 15-25 miles across the border .