I’m literally doing the exact same thing with my old club car. I moved the solenoids (slightly newer model than yours) like you and battery same location. I’ll be adding the bus bars and v reducer next. Great job this was a HUGE help to me. Thank you
Yup, with solenoids it's the same thing and should be lots of room still to put them and the resistors on the side where I did, just might have to mod up a frame strip to hold them is all. Towards the bus bars, I think I will make any future ones a bit better by using a 12v Fuse Box with 6 circuits. Check them out as will make a cleaner install for about the same price. For the reducer, the important part is the amps to ensure it will hold for how many accessories you plan to install. I used a 20A one (don't get anything smaller). Hope it all goes well and if you don't mind, throw me a subscribe to help a guy out :)
As said by others, not much information on upgrading resistor units while leaving them in, so appreciate the vid. Am planning to convert my toaster cart batteries also without buying a controller. Like you, maybe upgrade later Thanks for the tutorial.
So true as us toaster guys get neglected. Haha So happy that my vid could help, just remember to NOT ground the frame. Hope it goes well, throw me un update once it's done and please subscribe if you could to help a guy out. :)
@@AtHomeAndHandy Well dead of winter here so project probably will not proceed for a few months. Also getting over health issues, successfully I might add! Scribed.
Appreciated and all the best with your health :) When / if you get around to diving into it and have any questions, reach out as I'll try help wherever I can.
Awesome and enjoy!!! Should be the same hook up as I did with just a different name on the battery. Let me know how it went as in battery brand name, mileage, any issues with the BMS etc as I'd love to know!!
Thanks for the info, it does help. Just waiting for the cold spell to pass to work on the cart. I am in NC and this 20f is way to cold when normal temperatures are closer to 50 f
I hear ya. I'm in Alberta where we had night lows of -30c (-22f) just two days ago and then today -2c (28f) as a high. Quite the swing here so definitely know about waiting for better weather before doing something outside that can wait. Hope it goes well when you get a chance to dive into it. :)
Awesome and glad I found your video. I have a 95 DS and bought this same battery before doing my due diligence and opening up the seat to look for any obstacles like the frame and mine has vglide. Was just about to remove the body to get this battery in there in the same orientation but since you got it in I think I can too. It is a heavy ass battery though. Thanks for the video, not many out there on this model.
Awesome as in my video will be exactly how yours will be! As for the battery, it will slide in. It is heavy as all hell so go slow. I ended up putting it in by standing on the passenger side and holding the "front" handle with my right hand while supporting myself by using my left hand on the back under the back rests. Once you get it to wiggle in once, you'll be a pro. Hope that helps a bit and let me know how it all worked out once finished. :)
Sorry got bumped off while typing how hot do the resisitors get also how long was your battery mine is roughly 16inches and transverse was my solution too. Sadly my cart is 25 miles from home. No garage or yard at my old man condo...lol
No worries. For the resistors, mine get too hot to touch but not as hot as they could get (I drive at about 3/4 to full throttle most the time). So it's not an issue for any wiring as long as you keep them about an inch to two away. With them being where there is an open bottom, they get lots of moving air around them now it helps to cool them fairly quickly. As an FYI, they are all used when going really slow, half at half throttle and none at full throttle. So the faster you go, the less that get used. So with a resistor cart, you actually get better range out of your batteries the faster you go. For the dimensions on this battery, it's 16.5" x 12.5". I hope that all helps :)
I'm going to copy/paste the reply I put to someone else as my answer is the same. Have to say that I love it!! With it being a resistor cart I am getting about 40% less distance compared to those with a controller, but still worth it. You don't want it to go less than 30% charge so from full to 30% I got about 23km's (14m) in range. With a newer controller style I would expect about 32km (20m). Even at 23km it is far better than I git from lead acid when they were new. Now add in the maintenance free and it's a no brainer. The only warning I would give is the temperatures it can work and be stored in. I took mine out to put in a heated space for the winter as it can get to -35c and it says to stay above -10c when storing.
Good Day, I just searched to find it, can't remember which site I ended up getting it from. I think it was just a random message board that came up in my search. Wish I could could just say "go here..." but sadly I did not find any main database. Hope that helps :)
Have to say that I love it!! With it being a resistor cart I am getting about 40% less distance compared to those with a controller, but still worth it. You don't want it to go less than 30% charge so from full to 30% I got about 23km's (14m) in range. With a newer controller style I would expect about 32km (20m). Even at 23km it is far better than I git from lead acid when they were new. Now add in the maintenance free and it's a no brainer. The only warning I would give is the temperatures it can work and be stored in. I took mine out to put in a heated space for the winter as it can get to -35c and it says to stay above -10c when storing.
Why not just cut off the connector for the OBC and butt splice the required wires instead of going through the whole depinning process to create a jumper?
That is an expensive battery compared to others. Aren't most made in China? How can one Lithium battery of the same voltage and Ah rating be different than another lithium battery with the same rating. The only different is the price it seems to me.
I think the majority are but couldn't say for sure. Towards the pricing from my looking into it beforehand is that some are made cheaper, some have more feature (bluetooth, charger included, better warranty etc) and some have better BMS system's. All that being said all one can do is do their research and then take a best guess. The install I show will be the same though no matter which manufacture of box battery you chose.
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I’m literally doing the exact same thing with my old club car. I moved the solenoids (slightly newer model than yours) like you and battery same location. I’ll be adding the bus bars and v reducer next. Great job this was a HUGE help to me. Thank you
So many dang wires in mine too. At least now I know I don’t need most of them
Yup, with solenoids it's the same thing and should be lots of room still to put them and the resistors on the side where I did, just might have to mod up a frame strip to hold them is all.
Towards the bus bars, I think I will make any future ones a bit better by using a 12v Fuse Box with 6 circuits. Check them out as will make a cleaner install for about the same price. For the reducer, the important part is the amps to ensure it will hold for how many accessories you plan to install. I used a 20A one (don't get anything smaller).
Hope it all goes well and if you don't mind, throw me a subscribe to help a guy out :)
Best thing is to find your manufacture schematic and go through it so you know what's needed and what's not anymore.
As said by others, not much information on upgrading resistor units while leaving them in, so appreciate the vid. Am planning to convert my toaster cart batteries also without buying a controller. Like you, maybe upgrade later
Thanks for the tutorial.
So true as us toaster guys get neglected. Haha
So happy that my vid could help, just remember to NOT ground the frame.
Hope it goes well, throw me un update once it's done and please subscribe if you could to help a guy out. :)
@@AtHomeAndHandy Well dead of winter here so project probably will not proceed for a few months. Also getting over health issues, successfully I might add! Scribed.
Appreciated and all the best with your health :)
When / if you get around to diving into it and have any questions, reach out as I'll try help wherever I can.
really well done on the walk through. We are doing the same on an 87.
Awesome as happy it helped! Let me know how yours turned out and if you ended up as happy with it as I did. :)
It worked. I used a different brand of battery but the same setup
Awesome and enjoy!!! Should be the same hook up as I did with just a different name on the battery. Let me know how it went as in battery brand name, mileage, any issues with the BMS etc as I'd love to know!!
Thanks for the info, it does help. Just waiting for the cold spell to pass to work on the cart. I am in NC and this 20f is way to cold when normal temperatures are closer to 50 f
I hear ya. I'm in Alberta where we had night lows of -30c (-22f) just two days ago and then today -2c (28f) as a high. Quite the swing here so definitely know about waiting for better weather before doing something outside that can wait.
Hope it goes well when you get a chance to dive into it. :)
Awesome and glad I found your video. I have a 95 DS and bought this same battery before doing my due diligence and opening up the seat to look for any obstacles like the frame and mine has vglide. Was just about to remove the body to get this battery in there in the same orientation but since you got it in I think I can too. It is a heavy ass battery though. Thanks for the video, not many out there on this model.
Awesome as in my video will be exactly how yours will be!
As for the battery, it will slide in. It is heavy as all hell so go slow. I ended up putting it in by standing on the passenger side and holding the "front" handle with my right hand while supporting myself by using my left hand on the back under the back rests. Once you get it to wiggle in once, you'll be a pro.
Hope that helps a bit and let me know how it all worked out once finished. :)
Oh and do not ground the frame like I did!!! I put in the description that I took it off.
Sorry got bumped off while typing how hot do the resisitors get also how long was your battery mine is roughly 16inches and transverse was my solution too. Sadly my cart is 25 miles from home. No garage or yard at my old man condo...lol
No worries.
For the resistors, mine get too hot to touch but not as hot as they could get (I drive at about 3/4 to full throttle most the time). So it's not an issue for any wiring as long as you keep them about an inch to two away. With them being where there is an open bottom, they get lots of moving air around them now it helps to cool them fairly quickly. As an FYI, they are all used when going really slow, half at half throttle and none at full throttle. So the faster you go, the less that get used. So with a resistor cart, you actually get better range out of your batteries the faster you go.
For the dimensions on this battery, it's 16.5" x 12.5".
I hope that all helps :)
This video is a life saver i have the same cart wanting to do the same months of searching i found your video how are you liking this setup
I'm going to copy/paste the reply I put to someone else as my answer is the same.
Have to say that I love it!! With it being a resistor cart I am getting about 40% less distance compared to those with a controller, but still worth it. You don't want it to go less than 30% charge so from full to 30% I got about 23km's (14m) in range. With a newer controller style I would expect about 32km (20m). Even at 23km it is far better than I git from lead acid when they were new.
Now add in the maintenance free and it's a no brainer.
The only warning I would give is the temperatures it can work and be stored in. I took mine out to put in a heated space for the winter as it can get to -35c and it says to stay above -10c when storing.
Where & how did you get the wiring diagram. Please
Good Day,
I just searched to find it, can't remember which site I ended up getting it from. I think it was just a random message board that came up in my search. Wish I could could just say "go here..." but sadly I did not find any main database. Hope that helps :)
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its been 2 weeks how do you like the battery I was looking at the same one
Have to say that I love it!! With it being a resistor cart I am getting about 40% less distance compared to those with a controller, but still worth it. You don't want it to go less than 30% charge so from full to 30% I got about 23km's (14m) in range. With a newer controller style I would expect about 32km (20m). Even at 23km it is far better than I git from lead acid when they were new.
Now add in the maintenance free and it's a no brainer.
The only warning I would give is the temperatures it can work and be stored in. I took mine out to put in a heated space for the winter as it can get to -35c and it says to stay above -10c when storing.
Why not just cut off the connector for the OBC and butt splice the required wires instead of going through the whole depinning process to create a jumper?
Thanks for the comment but sorry as I'm not sure what you're referencing as there is no On Board Computer (OBC) on this old resistor cart.
I am preparing to convert a 87 to lithium Ion an
I see your other comment
That is an expensive battery compared to others. Aren't most made in China? How can one Lithium battery of the same voltage and Ah rating be different than another lithium battery with the same rating. The only different is the price it seems to me.
I think the majority are but couldn't say for sure. Towards the pricing from my looking into it beforehand is that some are made cheaper, some have more feature (bluetooth, charger included, better warranty etc) and some have better BMS system's. All that being said all one can do is do their research and then take a best guess. The install I show will be the same though no matter which manufacture of box battery you chose.