renae livingston she was an Original Judge for SYTYCD. For at least the first 4 Seasons. Not a Judge, but one of those with a HEAVY say so during auditions.
@@melaniethreatt7266 point taken... but I think although it starts off as a duel the ending scene suggests that really that's not what it really boils down to...more so about the love and skill of the art and its manifestations.
It still kills my heart that Gene Anthony Ray.burned out so quickly. Phenomenally Gifted Dancer w Raw Talent and Sacred Fire!! 0ur companies were scheduled to meet in Philly under special invite of Authur Hall of Ile Ife. Id heard of him "Disrespecting His Gift w fights in nightclubs and passing out from binges and binders from "substances" and then being fired from FAME eventually.. He worked to snag the lead in the film and tv series and let demons in his head and negative influences around break him!!! Any Bad Habit or Influence troubling him I wanted to tell him to TAKE IT TO THE MASTERS OF MOVEMENT .THE TRINITY.. A.A.A. Authur Hall of Authur Halls Afro American Dance Ensemble Alvin Ailey of Alvin Ailey Dance Theater and Authur Mitchell of The Dance Theater of Harlem .ANYTHING he was going thru They could have walked him thru and maybe helped save his life. Its the obligation of the Elders to Mentor and advise and the Younger to listen and apply what is being offered.!! As a young Black Male Dancer in an often unwelcoming but exciting field he needed to know he wasnt by himself.That was my message to him. Rest in Peace and Love Good Brother. XORONN ROSS💛🔥✊💥👊🙏🤝
@@ronross3410 Hollywood not the dance world destroyed him. That instant "can't do no wrong" game, the big money and it's so fast and frivolous. It strokes the ego, inflates it then kicks you in the teeth so you can't smile. Theater is more stable, more humble and more a rite. RIP sweet child of God. Beautiful sentiment Ron TY for the tribute.
Two women. Two races. Two ethnicities. Two generations. Two styles. One moment of incredible harmony and synchronism that will remain an epic, classic moment of dance television gold.
Not really. This was all carefully choreographed and scripted. Something that they decided beforehand. And it has nothing to do with "race" or ethnicity.
It does not always have to be who is better than who... BOTH these women are amazing dancers... THEY BOTH burned up that floor! I am now going to go dig for more... true dance legends!
Hello! Thanks so much! I agree! I think they both have different approaches and are very different kinds of dancers. The best part was when the danced together. It was simply amazing!
+Auntie Kimberlee From Vine Yes! These are two dancing legends enjoying their craft together. Even though on the show it was a competition, you could tell that Debbie & Donna were having a ball! Love it!!
Absolutely! They were both incredible. But as a kid, I loved the drama of the duel, and I was secretly cheering for Debbie Allen. ;-) Still, the talent they both had was astonishing.
She is 70 now, and has a dance school. She's still graceful, cool, and everything else you said, and that's an amazing thing. Back in the 1980s, dance battles were all anot the attitude, and the facial expressions.
Aaaaah, back when we took fine and performing arts seriously and they were still part of popular culture. What amazing talents we could see on regular tv programming, what these two women accomplish in two minutes of movement is superlative to what we see in the sum of entire careers with today's stars.
The other dancer is Donna Mckechnie from Broadways “A Chorus Line” and a lot of other performances yet I will always love the power, skill, beauty and shear talent of Debbie Allen....
The difference is that Debbie Allens routine looked natural as opposed to rehearsed. The other woman was an excellent dance, with a ballet background, but the type of dance they were performing lent itself to someone who had a modern dance background. Debbie nailed it.
I’d agree with you till the first dance. From the second dance they went went even. Actually the third dance when the dance together the other dancer nailed it. The are even ❤
i feel like with the bombastic nature of the choreography the more refined interpretation worked better. there was a BAM on every big noise--the dancers didn't need to sell it so hard. i also like the way she had a more fluid connection between the steps. that being said, debbie was burning like a shooting star
Was minding my own business one day about 23 years ago and my doorbell rang. To my complete shock it was Debbie Allen. Its not important really why she was there. I froze in my tracks. Moving along, she asked for a glass of water. Well she had to open the cupboard to get her a glass and get her own water. I was still frozen. The moral of this most embarrassing story is "IF, you ever plan on meeting your idol face to face, be prepared to look as dumb and foolish as you can possibly be." Need I say she was as gracious and down to earth as anyone can be. Its as if this wasn't the first time this has happened to her ( I was and still am her biggest fan)
Wow I miss the 80's!The best show ever! All about dedication and hard work! " You gotta big dreams, you wanna fame? Well fame cost, right here it's where you start paying, in sweat"! THAT'S LIFE no this reality shit, such a great time!
This was hands down my favorite show in high school. I went to NOCCA (New Orleans Center for Creative Arts) and this show resonated with me as an artist.
The minute I saw Debbie take off her jacket with such attitude......I knew I had to click the LIKE button.......and Im only 7 seconds in to the video😩😩😩😩....I love this lady!!!!
I watched this show faithfully you hear me...faith-ful-ly. As a young black girl growing up Debbie Allen and Irene Cara were my idols. I went on to my own arts HS which was Duke Ellington School of Arts in DC. And yes, school was somewhat like fame. breakout performing and art and music everywhere. But it was also hard hard work. some of the best days of my life.
Both professional dancers. Very Impressive..Fame was such a good show and the movies as well. We don't have good family shows anymore with real talet. All the characters on Fame were excellent..Rip Leroy Gene Anthony Ray. Love Debbie and Erica, Lee Bruno
WOW! I never knew these two had danced together. I think they and Chita are the best three female dancers alive. Donna for her classic and refined style, finishing every line perfectly, and Debbie for the fire and feeling she put into every movement, both have great technique.
@@spackar2720 I loved her in Flashdance and Dirty Dancing but to me there is a category of star dancers - in which I include Debbie, Chita, Donna, Ann Reinken and Gwen Verdon and perhaps a few more - that is way higher than all the others.
Honey, this battle should’ve been featured in MJ’s Beat It video. Both ladies got down and boogied hard, but Chiiiiiiile, Ms. Debbie Allen got ALL the way down: all the way down to the flo.’ 💃🏽🦋💃
Debbie has always stood out to me as a dancer. Loved this show Fame she stared on. She's awesome and I hope to see her as a judge on some of the dance shows. She deserves that
There are many dancers on TV who dance well. Watch So You Think You Can Dance!!!!!!!!!!!!! There professional dancers all over the world! Nobody is forcing you to watch junk. Change the channel.
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I'm THIS close to stalking Debbie Allen. Just for a picture. I ADORE her. She was/is the fiercest of the fierce, darling.
Debbie Allen should be a judge on dancing with the stars or so u think u can dance.
renae livingston she was an Original Judge for SYTYCD. For at least the first 4 Seasons. Not a Judge, but one of those with a HEAVY say so during auditions.
She has too much respect for the culture to do a show like that
@@NJ-vw7tf I thought so too but the commenter above says otherwise. I looked it up. It’s true. Oh well. People gotta eat, right?
Thank you!
She is a frequent judge and contributor to SYTYCD
2 different schools.... if you're a dancer you know that both were just magic! No need to compare. These two are legends!
aazablue the point of a duel or dance off IS a comparison. Debbie was more daring, and went with the style of music more. She wins!
@@melaniethreatt7266 point taken... but I think although it starts off as a duel the ending scene suggests that really that's not what it really boils down to...more so about the love and skill of the art and its manifestations.
I agree! They are showcasing the different styles.
Agree, both were very good.
Well IM comparing and the winner is:DEBBIE 🏆🏆
FAME IS A CLASSIC R.I.P. GENE ANTHONY RAY.
It still kills my heart that Gene Anthony Ray.burned out so quickly. Phenomenally Gifted Dancer w Raw Talent and Sacred Fire!! 0ur companies were scheduled to meet in Philly under special invite of Authur Hall of Ile Ife. Id heard of him "Disrespecting His Gift w fights in nightclubs and passing out from binges and binders from "substances" and then being fired from FAME eventually.. He worked to snag the lead in the film and tv series and let demons in his head and negative influences around break him!!! Any Bad Habit or Influence troubling him I wanted to tell him to TAKE IT TO THE MASTERS OF MOVEMENT .THE TRINITY.. A.A.A. Authur Hall of Authur Halls Afro American Dance Ensemble Alvin Ailey of Alvin Ailey Dance Theater and Authur Mitchell of The Dance Theater of Harlem .ANYTHING he was going thru They could have walked him thru and maybe helped save his life. Its the obligation of the Elders to Mentor and advise and the Younger to listen and apply what is being offered.!! As a young Black Male Dancer in an often unwelcoming but exciting field he needed to know he wasnt by himself.That was my message to him. Rest in Peace and Love Good Brother. XORONN ROSS💛🔥✊💥👊🙏🤝
@@ronross3410 Hollywood not the dance world destroyed him. That instant "can't do no wrong" game, the big money and it's so fast and frivolous. It strokes the ego, inflates it then kicks you in the teeth so you can't smile.
Theater is more stable, more humble and more a rite. RIP sweet child of God. Beautiful sentiment Ron TY for the tribute.
Two women. Two races. Two ethnicities. Two generations. Two styles. One moment of incredible harmony and synchronism that will remain an epic, classic moment of dance television gold.
I liked it too but it really wasn’t that in sync. White woman was offbeat
I think they are a part of the same generation.
Not really. This was all carefully choreographed and scripted. Something that they decided beforehand. And it has nothing to do with "race" or ethnicity.
Two different ethnicities, yes - but only one race, the HUMAN RACE!
@@Sicilia928 Two different ethnicities? They’re both Europeans.
Donna obviously held her own but not many can come close to the legendary Debbie Allen💜
Gotta give this red haired lady her props she held her own against Debbie Allen and that’s no small feat. ❤️❤️
Or small FEET if we're talking about dancing. Lol
@@kathykb8123 , Good eye. 😂
The red headed lady, Donna McKecknie is the original Cassie from A Chorus Line.
Her style is light effortlessly like an Alliyah Debbie more hearty
@@susancullimore5643 And in the film version, too.
Man I miss the days of actual good/quality tv!
Yessss lord...I watch all the old stuff so I ha e something good to watch lol
Amen!!!
I hear you, now it's all can't watch that because of this or that.
I wouldn’t mind if they did put this back on TV or do a remake. This is when television was great.
Me too
It does not always have to be who is better than who... BOTH these women are amazing dancers... THEY BOTH burned up that floor! I am now going to go dig for more... true dance legends!
Hello! Thanks so much! I agree! I think they both have different approaches and are very different kinds of dancers. The best part was when the danced together. It was simply amazing!
+Auntie Kimberlee From Vine Yes! These are two dancing legends enjoying their craft together. Even though on the show it was a competition, you could tell that Debbie & Donna were having a ball! Love it!!
Absolutely! They were both incredible. But as a kid, I loved the drama of the duel, and I was secretly cheering for Debbie Allen. ;-) Still, the talent they both had was astonishing.
@Tiffany Moore The "other woman" is Tony-winner and amazing dancer Donna McKechnie. Learn something. UA-cam "A Chorus Line and Donna McKechnie".
@@SDoesNotKnow i get it.......debbie was phenomenal then
Debbie Allen is just that quintessential 80s chick that everyone wanted to be-beautiful, cool, graceful, yet tough at the same time.
She is 70 now, and has a dance school. She's still graceful, cool, and everything else you said, and that's an amazing thing. Back in the 1980s, dance battles were all anot the attitude, and the facial expressions.
I am trying to put that in sentence...
💓 💪
Aaaaah, back when we took fine and performing arts seriously and they were still part of popular culture. What amazing talents we could see on regular tv programming, what these two women accomplish in two minutes of movement is superlative to what we see in the sum of entire careers with today's stars.
very well said!
Yes indeed!!!
Totally agreed bring those day’s back 😢
Society has to tell today's no talent losers they have talent.
Debbie Allen is amazing she's my dancing idol
Always admired her to this day. Great dancer/artist (✷‿✷)
Definitely the better of the 2.
@@mariahopkins755 , me too! She was my idol when I was a kid!
The other dancer is Donna Mckechnie from Broadways “A Chorus Line” and a lot of other performances yet I will always love the power, skill, beauty and shear talent of Debbie Allen....
She also worked with Debbie Allen on the show Sweet Charity they’re good friends
Donna won a Tony award for Best Actress in “A Chorus Line.”
I remember "A Chorus Line"...you remember "ALL THAT JAZZ"
Amen !!! 💫💫
Debbie always came to slay and she Always did ,and still does
I miss this type of dancing. Nothing against hip-hop, but the long flowing lines of these movements are a thing of beauty.
I agree
Frankie Goes to Hollywood.
The difference is that Debbie Allens routine looked natural as opposed to rehearsed. The other woman was an excellent dance, with a ballet background, but the type of dance they were performing lent itself to someone who had a modern dance background. Debbie nailed it.
I’d agree with you till the first dance. From the second dance they went went even. Actually the third dance when the dance together the other dancer nailed it. The are even ❤
i feel like with the bombastic nature of the choreography the more refined interpretation worked better. there was a BAM on every big noise--the dancers didn't need to sell it so hard. i also like the way she had a more fluid connection between the steps.
that being said, debbie was burning like a shooting star
Debbie also had on boots and she was just getting warmed up 😅.
Oh I miss that Leroy, way need another movie on Fame
Donna is doing full on Broadway dancing. Debbie is doing funky. Both are exceptional.
Was minding my own business one day about 23 years ago and my doorbell rang. To my complete shock it was Debbie Allen. Its not important really why she was there. I froze in my tracks. Moving along, she asked for a glass of water. Well she had to open the cupboard to get her a glass and get her own water. I was still frozen. The moral of this most embarrassing story is "IF, you ever plan on meeting your idol face to face, be prepared to look as dumb and foolish as you can possibly be." Need I say she was as gracious and down to earth as anyone can be. Its as if this wasn't the first time this has happened to her ( I was and still am her biggest fan)
Why was Debbie Allen asking for water at your house
She was there to interview my daughter for a program she did called "Cool Women " and i was not aware it would be her to do the interview.
Lies
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What an amazing dream 😴
Ms. Debbie took off like a high-speed chase when they danced together...she's always been a firecracker!🧨🔥
When it comes to dance, Debbie Allen is and always will be a real one, and Donna McKenzie can hold her own with the best of them.
Ms. Debbie & Ms. Donna are working the dance floor out! Beautiful memories❣
Just Amazing, when people actually had talent. Debbie was my girl on Fame. But both Women were exceptional.
Wow I miss the 80's!The best show ever! All about dedication and hard work!
" You gotta big dreams, you wanna fame? Well fame cost, right here it's where you start paying, in sweat"! THAT'S LIFE no this reality shit, such a great time!
Choreographed or not, Debbie Allen will put anyone that tries to shame! She is the original, and forever more, Dancing Queen.😍😍😍
@Stanley Draper you perspire when you work and Ms. Debbie worked that entire room to shame. 💃🏾
@Stanley Draper not quite.
@Stanley Draper I'm not your honey; be cool. Lastly, you don't know what I do while insinuating your background. Get a grip.
@Stanley Draper Again, get a grip.
Debbie Allen is one of the reasons I wanted to dance and Love dancing💯👏🏾🌟🙌🏾💯👏🏾🌟🙌🏾💯🌟🙌🏾💯
Debbie Allen was and still is phenomenal! ❤
This was hands down my favorite show in high school. I went to NOCCA (New Orleans Center for Creative Arts) and this show resonated with me as an artist.
Debbie Allen for the win! She is a dancing phenomenon.
This was around the time both had returned to Broadway. Debbie Allen in the revival of Sweet Charity, and Donna Mckechnie returned to A Chorus Line.
Real tv and talent. Reality tv doesn't even come close to this.
I thought this was Gwen Verdon. That's what the title says.
@@sylviacarlson3561 No, she was in another episode and was much older.
what can you say, 👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾💕✊🏾Debbie Allen.
The difference is Debbie Allen will get on the floor!!! I used to 💛this show🤣
This is literally perfect.
Both women are so talented, and Im proud to say that Debbie Allen is from Houston. Great scene!
Debbie Allen was EVERYTHING!! I lived for this show! Ended up in a magnet school just like the one she taught in on the series.
They both slayed it!!! Watching these clips makes me long for the 80s when things were so much simpler.
DEBBIE ALLEN HAS DROPPED THE MIC !!😂
this is epic both women are great dancers with two amazing distinct different styles.
The minute I saw Debbie take off her jacket with such attitude......I knew I had to click the LIKE button.......and Im only 7 seconds in to the video😩😩😩😩....I love this lady!!!!
❤Debbie Allen, she stole the show. BRAVO! BRAVO!
Two DIVA'S OF DANCE...great legends showcasing different styles...🥰😍
Spectacular, they move like super-heroes!! The human body is amazing! Great memories from watching this when I was about 13.
Donna's execution may have been better in a technical sense, but Debbie had more heart and soul. It was still great fun watching them battle.
This is great, it's my summer recital in 1983!
Love this dance off these were the good old days dancing 💃 with Fun ....No Judging...
This show was the real young talent showcase before Glee &high school musical in my generation growing up during the '80s!
They both worked it out in my book. I would love to see the full episodes of FAME again. This was my favorite show as a child
That's cute what Ms. Debbie has on.
Hell I would wear that now
She was young when this was on the air.
I grew up going to Catholic school, Catholic high school and 'Fame' was my escape- what life could be like, as an artist, a creator!!!!
I watched this show faithfully you hear me...faith-ful-ly. As a young black girl growing up Debbie Allen and Irene Cara were my idols. I went on to my own arts HS which was Duke Ellington School of Arts in DC. And yes, school was somewhat like fame. breakout performing and art and music everywhere. But it was also hard hard work. some of the best days of my life.
Anytime I get to see Tony award winner Donna McKechnie dance is a real treat. Wow to Debbie Allen! Thank you for posting.
Debbie Allen was beautiful then and still beautiful now!!
Both professional dancers. Very Impressive..Fame was such a good show and the movies as well. We don't have good family shows anymore with real talet. All the characters on Fame were excellent..Rip Leroy Gene Anthony Ray. Love Debbie and Erica, Lee Bruno
Broadway legend, Donna McKetchnie, with those fabulous high kicks that she showcased in “A Chorus Line.”
..As well as being one of the 'Hullabaloo' (sic) dancers, and before that, on numerous variety shows.
I guess I'm giving away my age. LOLOLOLOLOL.
2 amazing individual styles! Debbie brought that fire!! 🔥
Donna brought that grace!! ✨
Execllent job on both..
Favorite of all time shows when growing up.. Those were the days.. A Classic in itself... Always thought Debbie Allen was the Queen of dance 😍
If I were a judge I would most likely cast my vote for Debbie Allen.
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That was so awesome! Debbie was on fiyah!
no contest. Debbie is unstoppable.
I sooooo remember this episode as a kid. Oh how beautiful. ❤
WOW! I never knew these two had danced together. I think they and Chita are the best three female dancers alive. Donna for her classic and refined style, finishing every line perfectly, and Debbie for the fire and feeling she put into every movement, both have great technique.
I think that Cynthia Rhodes is the best overall dancer I have ever seen.
@@spackar2720 I loved her in Flashdance and Dirty Dancing but to me there is a category of star dancers - in which I include Debbie, Chita, Donna, Ann Reinken and Gwen Verdon and perhaps a few more - that is way higher than all the others.
Classic and beautiful everything about it ❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️
They burned that floor up. Both stellar and I liked the music. Good pick
My favorite dancers of all time are Debbie Allen (of course), Paula Kelly, Lola Falana, Juliet Prowse, and Leslie Caron.
Thanks for posting this amazing video! It is a reminder of why Debbie Allen is a legend!
Watching them perform I'm speechless they are incredible WOW 👏👏👏
Debbie stood out a bit more due to her elaborate moves. I think they both lit up that old wooden floor
true, but to be fair Donna was significantly older by this point.
@@raaid22 And she was coming back from crippling arthritis.
Both were amazing to watch.
@@raaid22 Older but not significantly. Only like 7 years.
@@MrReedGrantberry 7 years is very significant for a high caliber dancer like her. N
I used to love this show when I was a kid. Not to mention, I was in complete love with Debbie Allen. Too bad we can't go back!
OMG I can’t believe how totally amazing Debbie was .
She was a unbelievable
Wow
They were both amazing!!! Love their energy! This makes me miss the 80s so much!
I have an excellent collection of every single episode of "Fame" when I was much younger and boy did I enjoy watching it very much.
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I wish that my folks paid for my dancing lessons because this way I could dance to my heart's content.
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I lived to watch this show!! I. Always wanted to be a dancers.
Debbie slayed and was on beat the entire routine! 🔥
The beautiful message here was UNITY. That was a major point of the show & the atmosphere I grew up in. (80's)
Both excellent. I love this duet!
Debbie Allen and the other dancer did great!!! They did that!!! Why can't we have shows like this now. I grew up watching fame!
All my family loved Fame, back in the 80s, some great memories, regards from Ireland 😊🍀🇮🇪
2021 Debbie Allen still Rock that!!!!!!!!
Now, this is dancing. Breathtaking.
Debbie Allen smoked that other lady in the duel!
Epic Dance Battle!!!!!
Yes yes yes yes the kids no longer dance like this any more they peed on that dance floor......yes yes yes......modern jazz love it......
I watched this series as a child, and I was so disappointed to discover real high school wasn’t like this.
Mrs Debbie Allen what a great series a regular dancing machine.Fame causes this where you earn it
Ms. Debbie Allen is outstanding!
💃🏾💃🏾💃🏾💃🏾💃🏾
The energy, the respect- Yaaaasssss! I Love it💝💝💝✊🏽💛💋🤎
Honey, this battle should’ve been featured in MJ’s Beat It video. Both ladies got down and boogied hard, but Chiiiiiiile, Ms. Debbie Allen got ALL the way down: all the way down to the flo.’ 💃🏽🦋💃
she was showing off and Gwen was trying to tell her to simplify, simplify.........it was all for show.
@@sylviacarlson3561 “Simplify?” This is Debbie Allen we’re referencing, the modern dance LEGEND. There is NOTHING simple about Ms. Girl’s talents. 🦋
One of Debbie's dancers, Michael Delorenzo was in the Beat it Music Video
I use 2 LOVE watching this SHOW. Oh, they were the days!!! Thanks 4 posting!
Yall knew damn well Debbie was bout to slay. But both amazing dancers💃
Debbie came correct, she didn't play. Donna was graceful and on point.
@@omarcogle1965 loved Debbie, but I was really into Donna's lines
@@needahandle They were both evenly matched
I always loved Debbie and her sister, Phylicia and I grew up watching FAME. Both these women Kilt it!!!
Debbie Allen was always the best dancer.
What a contribution,to all of society.I don't care who you are what you are or were you come from!!!. ......The Tenn gir
💜💜💜💜💜💜💜💜💜💜 Watching "FAME" is how I started liking Modern dancing 💃👍
Two good Dancers I remembered see in that when I was a teenager when fame was on TV every week in my time 💘 Loved that Memories 😄
How cool is that??!!! From days of GOOD TELEVISION. Cable/satellite is no better. Thank GOD I have a really good DVD collection.....
Debbie Allen’s kick extensions are just unmatched! She got those legs to her forehead🤌🏽
Debbie killed it with her jetes and bachmas
Battements
Debbie has always stood out to me as a dancer. Loved this show Fame she stared on. She's awesome and I hope to see her as a judge on some of the dance shows. She deserves that
I danced this type of dancing all through my teens.
Incredible technique...passion and drive. 2 amazing dancers
Thanks Mark, I love Fame🤣👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾
Back when you actually had to have some kind of talent and skill to be on TV...not the reality tv bullshit in 2019!!
There are many dancers on TV who dance well. Watch So You Think You Can Dance!!!!!!!!!!!!! There professional dancers all over the world! Nobody is forcing you to watch junk. Change the channel.
I'm THIS close to stalking Debbie Allen. Just for a picture. I ADORE her. She was/is the fiercest of the fierce, darling.
Debbie and Donna were killing it. Now this is dancing, you won't see choreography like this in today's videos