A very imaginative work. Orchestral writing is very sophisticated and full of richness. I think this one of the best works by Webern, a benchmark of the early 20th century music.
Written in 1909 but co-opted to this day (2022) in film scores. I feel like this work is just barely holding on to traditional romantic structure and tonality. So evocative and ahead of its time.
NB The score on the video is from the original version for big orchestra, but the audio is from the revised version (1928) for a somewhat smaller orchestra
"sa rigueur intellectuelle, sa probité, son courage, sa ligne de conduite, sa persévérance restent toujours un modèle unique dans notre littérature musicale contemporaine." Pierre Boulez
Very interesting to compare Stravinskij's and Webern's revolutions. The former was fighted at first - but soon accepted - as "the" revolution; the latter was long ignored because too radical.
STUNNING..... GENIUS. This work is nothing short of STUNNING. It is the arrival of Sigmund Freud, Dream State and Fin De Siecle at its absolute purist. It is MUSIC ART DIRECTION beyond the imagination. It is German Expressionist Silent Film ART in MUSIC ....years ahead of Robert Wiene {Caligari} Fritz Lang{Spione}and Pabst{Lulu}
@@zzingping3674 timbre and subtlety! you have to have a keen ear for it if you make any kind of electronic music, especially ambient, because you can underestimate how much a certain texture can drastically change the mood of a piece
my exact thoughts, i wonder if webern ever got a chance to hear his music in his life? Probably not considering the distance and how often varese was performed. Those two could’ve been great friends though
HallMonitor Webern didn't even hear much his own music. I think his works were only manuscripts until 30's then he got rarely performed (and poorly performed according to Schoenberg)
Although Varese's music of course sounds and works in a way quite distinct from this, I can see where you might be coming from. The harps at the end of the fifth movement are remarkably similar to the harps in the beginning of Varese's Ameriques, and the fourth movement has some parallels to Deserts...
@@yssimon9058 It is informative as far as it goes to what he prefers. It has nothing to do with the resources I have. I don't have every score, exactly fitting the audio.
lol no, im sure it was not as good as this. Im sure very very few composers had handwriting like this. I heard Zappas manuscripts looked really nice though.
A very imaginative work. Orchestral writing is very sophisticated and full of richness. I think this one of the best works by Webern, a benchmark of the early 20th century music.
Yes
I : 0:00 Etwas bewegt (assez animé)
II : 0:53 Bewegt (agité)
III : 2:14 Zart bewegt (doucement animé))
IV : 3:16 Langsam, marcia funebre (lent, marche funèbre)
V : 8:12 Sehr langsam (très lent)
VI : 11:06 Zart bewegt (doucement animé)
merci monique
There is so much flavor in the tone colors Webern has beautifully crafted!!!
Written in 1909 but co-opted to this day (2022) in film scores. I feel like this work is just barely holding on to traditional romantic structure and tonality. So evocative and ahead of its time.
@Mark Leneker, IT is nothing short of STUNNING. It is the arrival of Sigmund Freud, Dream State and Fin De Siecle at its absolute purist.
What film scores used this music?
NB The score on the video is from the original version for big orchestra, but the audio is from the revised version (1928) for a somewhat smaller orchestra
"sa rigueur intellectuelle, sa probité, son courage, sa ligne de conduite, sa persévérance restent toujours un modèle unique dans notre littérature musicale
contemporaine." Pierre Boulez
I’ve only recently found this & it really knocked me out.
Brilliant
No 4 lets my blood go cold, no other piece has ever done that before, brilliant
Очень рад, что еще кто то воспринемает подобную музыку!🚲
This has always been the composer's "greatest hit', along with the Five Pieces for Strings. Somehow it has a direct emotional appeal.
Beautiful! Thanks for sharing!
OIt has an eerie, sinister quality that is quite gripping.
Beautiful.
Fantastic works!
Great imagination in the orchestral writing of "Klangfarbenmelodie".
you and your senseless use of smart-looking German words. Klangfarbenmelodie. Who cares? Gershwin is better without those smart words.
Why are we talking about Gershwin?
@@frog546 He'll talk about Micky Mouse if he thinks someone will look at his channel.
Sinopoli: great person, great regretted artist
So beautiful!
That closing of the second piece 😳
It's very easy to forget that this predates Stravinsky's Rite of Spring?
Very interesting to compare Stravinskij's and Webern's revolutions. The former was fighted at first - but soon accepted - as "the" revolution; the latter was long ignored because too radical.
This is pure genius. Way beyond anything Stravinsky could ever hope to write.
@@scottmcgill559 lol
@@Qazwdx111 👍
STUNNING..... GENIUS. This work is nothing short of STUNNING. It is the arrival of Sigmund Freud, Dream State and Fin De Siecle at its absolute purist. It is MUSIC ART DIRECTION beyond the imagination. It is German Expressionist Silent Film ART in MUSIC ....years ahead of Robert Wiene {Caligari} Fritz Lang{Spione}and Pabst{Lulu}
№1. Ожидание беды 0:00
№2. Наступление неотвратимого 0:54
№3. Нежнейшая противоположность 2:15
Ok so this isn't Dodecaphonic music . Could'a fooled me! This is free atonality ; Schoenberg didn't develop his system until 1923 .
IV. at 3:17
Genius.
Sinopoli best conductor for Webern
If you make electronic music, this is required listening.
If you are alive, this is required.
why, might I ask?
@@zzingping3674 timbre and subtlety! you have to have a keen ear for it if you make any kind of electronic music, especially ambient, because you can underestimate how much a certain texture can drastically change the mood of a piece
ウエーベルン大好き
スコアは原典版ですが演奏は改訂版でのであってません。楽器が違ってます。
確かに違いますね。第2曲・練習番号５以降で、楽譜ではHr.もやっているはずの和声が、弦セクションだけになっているくだりあたりなど、顕著ですね。他に、どんな違いがありましたでしょうか。
kyvcbs さん
原典版にあるエスクラリネットがピッコロに置き換わってます。特に第四曲のエスクラリネットの大ソロはピッコロではきれいごとで終わってしまいつまらないです。
譜面上の音高は同じでも、楽器が変わると聴覚上の印象（テンションの度合い）もまるで変わる、というやつですね（…と云っておきながら、私はここの演奏では気が付きませんでした……）。Es.cl によるソロは、悲痛な叫びのように聴こえます。私はどちらかと云えば、音楽全体に響きの拡がりを感じるという点で、原典版の方が好みです。
圧倒的に原典版のほうがすぐれていると思いますが、編成が巨大なのに音が薄く、全曲ほとんど休みで、ほんのちょっとだけしか吹かない管楽器が多数あるのでプロの演奏会ではコスト的に見合わないのでしょう。演奏機会を増やすために改訂版を作ったのだと思います。
Way ahead of it's time. Very intense...But I can't help envisioning Star Trek.
Did someone say Edgard Varese......
my exact thoughts, i wonder if webern ever got a chance to hear his music in his life? Probably not considering the distance and how often varese was performed. Those two could’ve been great friends though
HallMonitor Webern didn't even hear much his own music. I think his works were only manuscripts until 30's then he got rarely performed (and poorly performed according to Schoenberg)
I would say more like Mahler on acid than Varese.
Although Varese's music of course sounds and works in a way quite distinct from this, I can see where you might be coming from. The harps at the end of the fifth movement are remarkably similar to the harps in the beginning of Varese's Ameriques, and the fourth movement has some parallels to Deserts...
This is not the 1909 version, but the 1928 arrangement. I'd rather the 1909. The score is really 1909.
So get the 1909 version, edit it, post it, do something. You show the world how it has to be done.
@@bartjebartmans ok
@@bartjebartmansJust what he said is informative.
@@yssimon9058 It is informative as far as it goes to what he prefers. It has nothing to do with the resources I have. I don't have every score, exactly fitting the audio.
@@bartjebartmansI appreciate everything you post! Ignore the trolls and armchair critics!
On doit se demander ce que Mahler a pensé des ouvres de Webern
VI at 11:06
Did someone say Indiana Jones soundtrack?
Is this his handwriting?
lol no, im sure it was not as good as this. Im sure very very few composers had handwriting like this. I heard Zappas manuscripts looked really nice though.
Bass drop at 8'10'', if you're in a hurry.
;-)
lml
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the 3 continuing slow movements, too boring.
No, they are the best
@realityproof_0891 yes, probably you are right. these are just not for me, just for now.
perfect for a Satanic movie, nothing else.
Or Disney. Same thing.
You mean Hitchcock?
Cry harder.
this started a riot??