Rattle, Webern, six pieces pour orchestre op.6

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  • Опубліковано 20 жов 2018

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  • @petemarkey626
    @petemarkey626 27 днів тому

    Never thought i'd like modern (ish) tonality poetry, or listen to it. Webern was obviously a genius before his time, it was a real education, gratefully received. enjoyably heard.

  • @Erickvazquezc
    @Erickvazquezc 3 роки тому +13

    I like the coughing, it reminds me that after more than a 100 years this music still rings true and far from home

    • @thelaupez
      @thelaupez 3 роки тому +3

      It also makes you think about how much the world has changed in just a few years. Coughing means so much more now.

    • @thelaupez
      @thelaupez 3 роки тому

      @Kayden Ishaan What the fuck is wrong with you?

  • @jaggedstudios3315
    @jaggedstudios3315 6 місяців тому +3

    The Master.....nothing more can be said.

  • @markbrooks7157
    @markbrooks7157 Місяць тому

    Love these early opus numbers of Webern. Such poetry. The fourth movement is especially stunning.

  • @andrekuratomi3880
    @andrekuratomi3880 3 роки тому +4

    Wow. Great story of sounds and colors you told us!

  • @boonrutsirirattanapan100
    @boonrutsirirattanapan100 4 роки тому +7

    An urgent rendition. However, really touching and so beautiful.

  • @charlessavage5151
    @charlessavage5151 Місяць тому

    Love the performance. Thank you for doing this.

  • @jefferywyss8740
    @jefferywyss8740 5 років тому +7

    great music! Webern

  • @paulbetjeman9933
    @paulbetjeman9933 6 місяців тому +1

    thank you for posting this

  • @jesusislordsavior6343
    @jesusislordsavior6343 4 роки тому +21

    It's amazing that this piece is 111 years old and still challenging for many audiences today, of that I have little doubt. What does that say of Webern's creative gifts, and of the basic conservatism of public taste?

    • @yssimon9058
      @yssimon9058 11 місяців тому

      It is not a matter of 'taste'. It is a matter of the 'difficulty' of understanding this music. Even in 21st century we hear Georg Friedrich Haas, Unsuk Chin, or Ades, and still the 2nd viennese school is the most difficult music to understand because their music requires to feel the 'vague tonality' in it.

    • @James-ll3jb
      @James-ll3jb 5 місяців тому

      He will always be ahead of his time from an aesthetic standpoint. As is all surrealism.😮

  • @awe5657
    @awe5657 Рік тому +2

    Антон Веберн, безусловно лучший нововенский классик!

    • @gentle_goy23432
      @gentle_goy23432 8 місяців тому

      Хм. А как же Берг и Шёнберг?

  • @johnryskamp2943
    @johnryskamp2943 7 місяців тому +1

    Good performance. The faster than usual tempo reveals new things about the music.

  • @machida5114
    @machida5114 2 роки тому +2

    so good...

  • @jazzsmells9341
    @jazzsmells9341 3 роки тому +3

    wunderbar - diese Farben

  • @user-yx5sj1vm4q
    @user-yx5sj1vm4q 9 місяців тому +1

    Both this and Passacaglia Op.1 are composed out of Webern's mourning over his mother's death.

  • @bubalot
    @bubalot Рік тому +1

    You know if birds sounded like this type of music?........... I'd be scared!😲

  • @gonzaloruiz.2138
    @gonzaloruiz.2138 5 років тому +14

    Público mal educado; Se oyen más toses que música.

  • @charlesrivera9877
    @charlesrivera9877 5 років тому +5

    3:58

  • @AndrewRudin
    @AndrewRudin 4 роки тому +35

    Good God, what noisy audience. Where are we? In a TB sanatorium?

    • @mwhite6522
      @mwhite6522 4 роки тому +6

      When I lived in Boston, some friends and I used to attend BSO concerts regularly and noticed the more "modern" a piece was or would sound, the more people would cough. It comes from discomfort with hearing unfamiliar and challenging music. Psychological.

    • @jochanaan58
      @jochanaan58 4 роки тому +6

      Also, it sounds like the dynamics are compressed by bringing up the soft parts (lots of those in Webern!).

    • @codswallop321
      @codswallop321 4 роки тому

      It looks like the Barbican in London?

    • @franckmousset4022
      @franckmousset4022 3 роки тому +1

      @@jochanaan58 This is the 1928 version reduced compared to the original. The orchestra is lighter and it harms expression, especially in the 4th piece.

    • @jazzsmells9341
      @jazzsmells9341 3 роки тому

      @@mwhite6522 I think Your right ! Nevertheless it is really disturbing

  • @cedricklyon
    @cedricklyon 2 роки тому +4

    135€ pour tous ceux qui toussent bruyamment >:(

  • @cedricklyon
    @cedricklyon 3 роки тому +4

    Pourquoi yen a toujours un ou une qui a sa quinte de toux pendant les moments calmes ?

    • @madrigal1956
      @madrigal1956 Рік тому +1

      parce que cela dérange moins de notes que pendant un tutti fortissimo, voyons...

  • @vividdream1986
    @vividdream1986 4 роки тому +11

    Stop coughing

  • @llamadeusmozart
    @llamadeusmozart 3 роки тому +2

    One of the most cathartic pieces I know.

  • @krachenford9594
    @krachenford9594 4 роки тому +1

    I can get no access to this music. Must i listen more often?

    • @hotlaser
      @hotlaser 4 роки тому +5

      Listening more often always helps. Personally I would say there are two general routes to appreciation of this kind of music: The first would be listening to high quality audio recordings with good headphones and eyes closed, just letting the intricate combinations of timbres ("sound colours") do their magic. The second would be through analysis, contextualisation and further reading - i.e. getting an idea of what was happening in the musical world at the time and how it interacted with the compositions of the Viennese school.

    • @mwhite6522
      @mwhite6522 4 роки тому +2

      Listen to it until you can walk down the street and whistle it. Then it will speak to you, perhaps more profoundly than you ever expected.

    • @stueystuey1962
      @stueystuey1962 4 роки тому

      Yes.

    • @paulphilemon2370
      @paulphilemon2370 3 роки тому

      @@hotlaser Que c'est intelligemment, gentiment et joliment dit.. merci à vous

    • @thelaupez
      @thelaupez 3 роки тому

      You could also make your way through similar and related aesthetics to make some kind of stairway to atonal music.
      Do you enjoy listening to Schoenberg's Verklärte Nacht ?

  • @krantiyatri2107
    @krantiyatri2107 11 місяців тому

    La musica ai concerti è fatta di suono, silenzio e colpi di tosse.

  • @franckmousset4022
    @franckmousset4022 4 роки тому +2

    Pourquoi jouer toujours la version de 1928 ?

    • @Gwailo54
      @Gwailo54 2 роки тому

      Peut-être trop cher. J’adore la version de 1920.
      1909 4 4 5 2 - 6 6 6 1 - perc(8), hp(2), cel, str
      1920 1 1 1 0 - 0 0 0 0 - perc, harm, pno, str
      1928 2 2 3 2 - 4 4 4 1 - timp, perc(5), hp, cel, str

  • @mandollar5183
    @mandollar5183 Рік тому +1

    3:58 8:28

  • @yowzephyr
    @yowzephyr 2 роки тому +5

    The coughing is too dissonant for me.

  • @musicthattouches17
    @musicthattouches17 Рік тому +2

    Manche gehen wohl ins Konzert, um sich mal wieder richtig auszuhusten? Warum bleiben die nicht einfach zuhause und kurieren sich aus. Da gibt es doch bestimmt etwas von Ratiopharm! Schade um die Musik und die Musiker!

  • @awe5657
    @awe5657 Рік тому

    переслушиваю, потому что не понимаю. как и Прокофьева и Стравинского, и Баха!

    • @gentle_goy23432
      @gentle_goy23432 8 місяців тому

      А кого вы понимаете? Вопрошаю с уважением.

  • @marabuto4202
    @marabuto4202 4 місяці тому

    There are other types of activities to which the inmates of a sanatorium for tuberculosis patients could be taken, for their entertainment. They can take them to the zoo, to election campaign rallies, to haute couture shows... a lot of possible better alternatives than participating in the percussion section of concerts with their coughs.

  • @lionsbite5728
    @lionsbite5728 4 роки тому +14

    I had to stop listening. Some ghastly people in the audience wanted to be heard more than Webern

    • @robinblankenship9234
      @robinblankenship9234 Рік тому +3

      Probably Orcs. Not all are so blessed as to enjoy your godlike perfection.

  • @ChrizzBS
    @ChrizzBS 4 роки тому

    Немного жутко ...

    • @ChrizzBS
      @ChrizzBS 4 роки тому

      Это вызывает жуткое чувство.

  • @robinblankenship9234
    @robinblankenship9234 Рік тому +2

    So many superiors commenting here. Truly members of a master race. Just like the composer. Oh, no smoking allowed.

  • @AndrewRudin
    @AndrewRudin 4 роки тому +2

    Seems somewhat rushed to me.

  • @martinstauce1946
    @martinstauce1946 Рік тому +1

    Such a pity , ironic. Great music, crappy live cougher, suddenly he has become part of the story, what a wit but there he lies.

  • @martinstauce1946
    @martinstauce1946 2 роки тому

    Hate the coffing. Unfathomable. (I get the spelling). So average.

  • @mpcpiano4306
    @mpcpiano4306 5 років тому +4

    ojalá tosieran más para que no se escuche esta basura

    • @carlosbuchlein
      @carlosbuchlein 3 роки тому +5

      Disculpe usted, oyente del siglo XIX.

    • @thelaupez
      @thelaupez 3 роки тому +1

      WE, tan enojado iba a estar.