Yeah but we all knew Calcharo was gonna get swept under the rug immediately since he's a standard unit, so I don't really care all too much. Also the ability to swap artifacts on characters midway through the tower of adversity means that there is some advantage in using Calcharo as well since they can share the exact same echoes. I'm only gonna get irritated if yinlin gets outdone in the mono electro niche before 2.0.
That would be hard to do tbh, without being really blatant. She's easily the best character in the game cause of her flexibility and the double buff she offers to electric characters would require another main dps that relies very little on their Liberation as well.
As for Yao, u guys may argue that the gap is not that great. But if the leak about zhezhi kits is true then zhezhi and jinhsi team comp will literally become gojo satoru of wuwa. Ofc every characters are still be able to clear all the end game content at this point but in the long future than im not sure. Looking at PGR, i see a lot of people saying is normal of Kuro to GA characters on the evts occasionally. And its quite true in case of wuwa too because we alr saw what we got since the game launch. What i mean when bring PGR in here is to u understand that the way PGR go might be the way Wuwa go as well. They'll give us a lots of presents and characters as well that we not neccessary have to pull for meta to be able to play the game. So i can quite say the game dodge powercreep kinda good too. But seeing jinhsi could potential extend the gap of dps even further with only 1 patchs? If that's not powercreep idk what word to said as a Jiyan main.
Jinhsi > Jiyan (I have both + Jiyan's weapon) can be seen as powercreep, but there's no use worrying about it rn since we don't know how things look going forward. We don't know if Jinhsi is the new standard or if she's an exception. Seeing as how she's a magistrate (and how Changli's performance looks next to hers), I'm more inclined to say that it's an exception, sorta like how all the Archons in Genshin are ridiculously broken (even Venti before they started to design enemies to not be trivialized by him lmao) compared to the rest of the cast.
@@T8-TR yeah, this situation really put me on a hard spot. On the 1 hand, i got Jinhsi with might be the most broken character with zhezhi support. On the other hand i just want the best for my boy Jiyan, which is got mortefi to s6 on Changli banner... im just a dolphin so my asterite is not really that much to having both.
That’s a difference between burst damage, powercreep isn’t just when a new unit is better but that the old unit is just unable to do anything in new content, which isn’t happening. It’s more of a power gap if anything
Jiyan still has some qualities that Jinhsi lacks. He’s actually better than her in some areas. His combos are less complex, making him easier to use. It’s not just about damage. He got ease of parry, less prone to bad crit luck since his damage is spread over many hits, can deal with spectro res enemies, better for AoE scenarios. At the end of the day, it’s a pve game. You’re not competing with anyone, and as long as you’re having fun and able to beat enemies, it shouldn’t really matter.
1st of all one is a standard banner character and the other is a limited (even if they give it to us for free), Limited characters will always be stronger. 2nd of all if you play PGR, you will know that Kuro has a design style they want Mono Elemental teams to play like, chances are, CC being a standard character was design to just be a intro to the Electric playstyle, because hes a Standard unit, and Xiangli Yao is the real Mono Electric play style they were planning from. If you play PGR and know how Kuro designs their teams, they put alot of thoughts into their mono teams, so all the teams don't play the same. All Electric attackers going forward, will play like CC, and XY, but will have something new that will make them stronger going forward.
"All Electric attackers going forward, will play like CC, and XY" or they... yknow... just make a new DPS that plays differently lol. Also this game doesn't always do "mono element" you never know what the future holds.
I feel like Zhezhi (Glacio) being a really good support for Jinhsi (Spectro) already kinda throws a wrench in the whole "mono elemental" thing. There are definitely characters that benefit mono elements (Yinlin and Changli are two 5 stars that come to mind), but I don't think it's a hard and fast rule. Also, idk how it works in PGR, but I refuse to believe that they'll all play the same. That's like going "All Aero units will play like Jiyan going forward, except they'll do his playstyle better." It makes no sense unless they're planning on releasing one Aero main DPS a year to not make powercreep feel like dogshit. Calc playing similarly to Xiangli is likely just a coincidence, otherwise the longevity of the game isn't going to look good when someone says "Wow, I pulled Jinhsi and she's super strong!" only for Jinhsi 2.0 to drop 8 months later and play just like Jinhsi, except now they don't need to quickswap w/ coordinated attacks to amp their nuke. But speaking strictly about the Calc powercreep, yes, everyone should've seen this coming. Calc/Encore/Lingyang were pretty much duds from the start. Good for 1.0 exploration, but the easiest characters to powercreep. Lingyang died on release, Calc dies in 1.2, and Encore's time will come when we get a Fusion main DPS.
@@Bittexuthis game is only nearly 2 months old, using pgr as a reference for decisions they are also making in wuwa, it’s a pretty understandable take. The only difference would be weapon which would obviously make other characters play different
I think we may have lost the meaning of powercreep. Powercreep would be if Calcharo was unusable in endgame content and then they release a new and better version of him that can clear the content but thats not whats happening. Calcharo is perfectly viable in all content in the game and you even said yourself that the difference between them is just the convenience. Seems like unjustified anger imo.
u kinda went overboard with the definition. PC in this case only makes older chars like Calcharo less preferable than the newer unit since XYao just does it better. it doesnt make calc unusable but just less preferable. It is powercreep.
@@ginoladioray7064 Overboard? I don’t think so. Powercreep is when a company makes a character essentially useless and releases a new and improved version of them all for the sake of forcing players to get the new character. Wuthering Waves has not done that yet.
@@fruitchoco675 not at all, that’s just releasing a better version of a character. It isn’t forcing anyone to pull on him for the sake of completing content. Plus, if the rumors are true then we are getting a copy of him for free so it’s even less of a reason to be concerned.
We are getting him for free. Why does it matter? He’s even electro, so him and calcharo can share echoes. A limited character will always be better than a standard character. Otherwise, why would people roll for the limited character when they have a “better” standard character they got from selectors or beginner banner or losing 50/50? They have to be better in one way or another. Diluc in genshin was immediately powercrept as soon as they released main dps characters like Ganyu and Hu Tao. Seele was getting powercrept in HSR with every DPS release, but she was still viable. This is a gacha game after all, but as long as you can have fun with your character and clear content, it doesn’t matter. It’s a single player PVE game.
Yao has almost 5000% motion value in his kit without counting the NA and enhanced skill forte outside the burst because still we don't know how fast and reliable is to fully stacked soo yeah, we are talking about Jinhsi's power level and even more than her, i think he gonna get nerfed a little bit before release but other than that he is literally Calcharo with exactly the same playstyle but with way more uptime and damage and of course his signature weapon is really good on him and the sequence are also really good for a supposedly free character, RIP calcharo mains
I have yinlin but i dont have calcharo right now so should i go for xiangli yao or select calcharo from standard banner. If i dont select calcharo on standard banner than i could go for jianxin for changli team?
I don't mind if he powercreeps him at all..I invested on my calcharo I can clear the content with him so why would I bother investing on this new character that does pretty much the samething... even if he's free.. I still wouldn't level him up AND AND... on top of it TRUST ME he's not gonna powercreep him by much SPECIALLY if he's free...
free five star? hold hold hold hold hold hold hold hold hold hold hold hold hold hold hold hold hold hold hold hold hold hold hold hold hold hold hold hold hold hold hold hold hold hold hold hold hold hold hold hold hold hold hold hold hold hold hold hold hold hold hold hold hold hold hold hold hold hold hold hold hold hold hold hold hold hold hold UP! WE GETTING ANOTHER FREE FIVE STAR??
Man all these people and CCs won't stop yapping about powercreep till they nerf the dude and then they'll get pissed , just stfu and let them cook , calcharo isn't even good , they need to replace him to let people have a reason to wish for yinlin
Insanity from kuro. Didn‘t expext an ahole move like that from this company. I will stick to my calcharo no matter what until i can‘t clear content :((
@@pikachichu__Well, there are leaks saying there is a very high chance Xiangli is free. So if that is true then this isn't an "ahole" move from Kuro at all bc you didn't have to invest any limited pulls or any money to get this so called "upgraded Calcharo".
@@danielw.2456 well I did. If you think about it, this negates my pulls on the standard weapon banner for lustrous razor, this negates my free 5* selector ticket. You have to think about it reversely. Am I fine with power creep on new releases? Yes, but this guys kit is basically the same as calcharo just easier and with more Yinlin synergy. Even if he is free, his weapon and the resources to level him are not (except the echoes I can swap from my calc to Yao). I will stick to my calcharo :
Gacha player, especially people that keep yapping about powercreep in single player are mostly garbage. The characters is weaker than the current roster : SKIP SKIP SKIP, WHY THIS CHARACTER EXISTS The character is better than the current roster : THE GAME IS UNPLAYABLE, POWERCREEP POWERCREEP Trash. I mains Calcharo and I will still mains him forever like how I main Diluc back then in Genshin. I can clear Hazard Tower and Holo Diff 6 with Calcharo so there is zero substance in this discussion. Imagine being so obsessed about powercreep in a single player game. Useless topic to discuss at all. They're acting like older character suddenly can't clear the latest content at all. BS
The only time "powercreep" should come up outside of doomposting and fearmongering (for views) is when it stops being realistically possible to do the endgame (Tower, in this case) at a reasonable investment. Like, if I NEED C/E/Whatever 6 Calc + his BiS weapon just to clear Abyss when the new unit can clear it w/ C/E/Whatever 0 and no weapon, then it might be time to start worrying. As it stands, that's not the case.
Disappointed that Xiangli Yao isnt a rectifier user ... As a scientist and reading his kit. The rectifier should be his weapon. Not gonna pull for him 🥱 Male rectifier when???
Comparison is the thief of joy. You’re optimizing the fun out of the game, people should just play who they want to play at the end of the day. That doesn’t mean actively avoid meta, but if calcharo can still clear end game just fine then I see no point to a video like this.
I've been waiting to play a full team of nerds with Yao, Mortefi and Baizhi - for research purposes 🤣
Yeah but we all knew Calcharo was gonna get swept under the rug immediately since he's a standard unit, so I don't really care all too much. Also the ability to swap artifacts on characters midway through the tower of adversity means that there is some advantage in using Calcharo as well since they can share the exact same echoes. I'm only gonna get irritated if yinlin gets outdone in the mono electro niche before 2.0.
That would be hard to do tbh, without being really blatant. She's easily the best character in the game cause of her flexibility and the double buff she offers to electric characters would require another main dps that relies very little on their Liberation as well.
@@Zer0Perplexity Yeah I love yinlin, she does more damage than my dps too 🥲
As for Yao, u guys may argue that the gap is not that great. But if the leak about zhezhi kits is true then zhezhi and jinhsi team comp will literally become gojo satoru of wuwa.
Ofc every characters are still be able to clear all the end game content at this point but in the long future than im not sure.
Looking at PGR, i see a lot of people saying is normal of Kuro to GA characters on the evts occasionally. And its quite true in case of wuwa too because we alr saw what we got since the game launch.
What i mean when bring PGR in here is to u understand that the way PGR go might be the way Wuwa go as well. They'll give us a lots of presents and characters as well that we not neccessary have to pull for meta to be able to play the game. So i can quite say the game dodge powercreep kinda good too.
But seeing jinhsi could potential extend the gap of dps even further with only 1 patchs? If that's not powercreep idk what word to said as a Jiyan main.
Jinhsi > Jiyan (I have both + Jiyan's weapon) can be seen as powercreep, but there's no use worrying about it rn since we don't know how things look going forward. We don't know if Jinhsi is the new standard or if she's an exception. Seeing as how she's a magistrate (and how Changli's performance looks next to hers), I'm more inclined to say that it's an exception, sorta like how all the Archons in Genshin are ridiculously broken (even Venti before they started to design enemies to not be trivialized by him lmao) compared to the rest of the cast.
@@T8-TR yeah, this situation really put me on a hard spot. On the 1 hand, i got Jinhsi with might be the most broken character with zhezhi support. On the other hand i just want the best for my boy Jiyan, which is got mortefi to s6 on Changli banner... im just a dolphin so my asterite is not really that much to having both.
That’s a difference between burst damage, powercreep isn’t just when a new unit is better but that the old unit is just unable to do anything in new content, which isn’t happening. It’s more of a power gap if anything
Jiyan still has some qualities that Jinhsi lacks. He’s actually better than her in some areas. His combos are less complex, making him easier to use. It’s not just about damage. He got ease of parry, less prone to bad crit luck since his damage is spread over many hits, can deal with spectro res enemies, better for AoE scenarios. At the end of the day, it’s a pve game. You’re not competing with anyone, and as long as you’re having fun and able to beat enemies, it shouldn’t really matter.
1st of all one is a standard banner character and the other is a limited (even if they give it to us for free), Limited characters will always be stronger. 2nd of all if you play PGR, you will know that Kuro has a design style they want Mono Elemental teams to play like, chances are, CC being a standard character was design to just be a intro to the Electric playstyle, because hes a Standard unit, and Xiangli Yao is the real Mono Electric play style they were planning from. If you play PGR and know how Kuro designs their teams, they put alot of thoughts into their mono teams, so all the teams don't play the same. All Electric attackers going forward, will play like CC, and XY, but will have something new that will make them stronger going forward.
"All Electric attackers going forward, will play like CC, and XY" or they... yknow... just make a new DPS that plays differently lol. Also this game doesn't always do "mono element" you never know what the future holds.
I feel like Zhezhi (Glacio) being a really good support for Jinhsi (Spectro) already kinda throws a wrench in the whole "mono elemental" thing. There are definitely characters that benefit mono elements (Yinlin and Changli are two 5 stars that come to mind), but I don't think it's a hard and fast rule.
Also, idk how it works in PGR, but I refuse to believe that they'll all play the same. That's like going "All Aero units will play like Jiyan going forward, except they'll do his playstyle better." It makes no sense unless they're planning on releasing one Aero main DPS a year to not make powercreep feel like dogshit. Calc playing similarly to Xiangli is likely just a coincidence, otherwise the longevity of the game isn't going to look good when someone says "Wow, I pulled Jinhsi and she's super strong!" only for Jinhsi 2.0 to drop 8 months later and play just like Jinhsi, except now they don't need to quickswap w/ coordinated attacks to amp their nuke.
But speaking strictly about the Calc powercreep, yes, everyone should've seen this coming. Calc/Encore/Lingyang were pretty much duds from the start. Good for 1.0 exploration, but the easiest characters to powercreep. Lingyang died on release, Calc dies in 1.2, and Encore's time will come when we get a Fusion main DPS.
@@Bittexuthis game is only nearly 2 months old, using pgr as a reference for decisions they are also making in wuwa, it’s a pretty understandable take. The only difference would be weapon which would obviously make other characters play different
Calcharo will still be my favorite, yes he's hard to master but that's what why it's fun
Isn’t mc next gonna get electro as well, if they keep their way he might be stronger then calcharo as well
"Xiangli yao gains three stacks knows as Hypercubes"
Damn, Xiangli yao is literally the Lee expy of Wuwa.
I think we may have lost the meaning of powercreep. Powercreep would be if Calcharo was unusable in endgame content and then they release a new and better version of him that can clear the content but thats not whats happening. Calcharo is perfectly viable in all content in the game and you even said yourself that the difference between them is just the convenience. Seems like unjustified anger imo.
u kinda went overboard with the definition. PC in this case only makes older chars like Calcharo less preferable than the newer unit since XYao just does it better.
it doesnt make calc unusable but just less preferable. It is powercreep.
you are right,i think Calcharo will always be able to clear end game content.People are just getting nuts over higher dmg possiblity.
@@ginoladioray7064 Overboard? I don’t think so. Powercreep is when a company makes a character essentially useless and releases a new and improved version of them all for the sake of forcing players to get the new character. Wuthering Waves has not done that yet.
Stronger, easier and more convenient is already a definition of powercreep no?
@@fruitchoco675 not at all, that’s just releasing a better version of a character. It isn’t forcing anyone to pull on him for the sake of completing content. Plus, if the rumors are true then we are getting a copy of him for free so it’s even less of a reason to be concerned.
We are getting him for free. Why does it matter? He’s even electro, so him and calcharo can share echoes. A limited character will always be better than a standard character. Otherwise, why would people roll for the limited character when they have a “better” standard character they got from selectors or beginner banner or losing 50/50? They have to be better in one way or another. Diluc in genshin was immediately powercrept as soon as they released main dps characters like Ganyu and Hu Tao. Seele was getting powercrept in HSR with every DPS release, but she was still viable. This is a gacha game after all, but as long as you can have fun with your character and clear content, it doesn’t matter. It’s a single player PVE game.
I chose Calcharo because I liked his design but he’s so miserable to play tbh… not even Yinlin made him enjoyable for me. I’m happy to replace him.
Yao has almost 5000% motion value in his kit without counting the NA and enhanced skill forte outside the burst because still we don't know how fast and reliable is to fully stacked soo yeah, we are talking about Jinhsi's power level and even more than her, i think he gonna get nerfed a little bit before release but other than that he is literally Calcharo with exactly the same playstyle but with way more uptime and damage and of course his signature weapon is really good on him and the sequence are also really good for a supposedly free character, RIP calcharo mains
I have yinlin but i dont have calcharo right now so should i go for xiangli yao or select calcharo from standard banner.
If i dont select calcharo on standard banner than i could go for jianxin for changli team?
@@ken_kenaki2317 Xiangli Yao will be given out for free in the 1.2 event
I don't mind if he powercreeps him at all..I invested on my calcharo I can clear the content with him so why would I bother investing on this new character that does pretty much the samething... even if he's free.. I still wouldn't level him up AND AND... on top of it TRUST ME he's not gonna powercreep him by much SPECIALLY if he's free...
free five star? hold hold hold hold hold hold hold hold hold hold hold hold hold hold hold hold hold hold hold hold hold hold hold hold hold hold hold hold hold hold hold hold hold hold hold hold hold hold hold hold hold hold hold hold hold hold hold hold hold hold hold hold hold hold hold hold hold hold hold hold hold hold hold hold hold hold hold UP! WE GETTING ANOTHER FREE FIVE STAR??
This is a limited 5 star not a puny standard 5 star
@@willburning6955 LET’S GOOOOO 🗣️ 🔥
I dont care anyways this character is free
Man all these people and CCs won't stop yapping about powercreep till they nerf the dude and then they'll get pissed , just stfu and let them cook , calcharo isn't even good , they need to replace him to let people have a reason to wish for yinlin
There's powercreep, and then there's just straight up copying calcharo's kit and making it more convenient lmfao
Insanity from kuro. Didn‘t expext an ahole move like that from this company. I will stick to my calcharo no matter what until i can‘t clear content :((
You're the one who said it. "They need to replace him to let people have a reason chuchuchu.."
@@pikachichu__Well, there are leaks saying there is a very high chance Xiangli is free. So if that is true then this isn't an "ahole" move from Kuro at all bc you didn't have to invest any limited pulls or any money to get this so called "upgraded Calcharo".
@@danielw.2456 well I did. If you think about it, this negates my pulls on the standard weapon banner for lustrous razor, this negates my free 5* selector ticket. You have to think about it reversely. Am I fine with power creep on new releases? Yes, but this guys kit is basically the same as calcharo just easier and with more Yinlin synergy. Even if he is free, his weapon and the resources to level him are not (except the echoes I can swap from my calc to Yao). I will stick to my calcharo :
Gacha player, especially people that keep yapping about powercreep in single player are mostly garbage.
The characters is weaker than the current roster : SKIP SKIP SKIP, WHY THIS CHARACTER EXISTS
The character is better than the current roster : THE GAME IS UNPLAYABLE, POWERCREEP POWERCREEP
Trash. I mains Calcharo and I will still mains him forever like how I main Diluc back then in Genshin. I can clear Hazard Tower and Holo Diff 6 with Calcharo so there is zero substance in this discussion.
Imagine being so obsessed about powercreep in a single player game.
Useless topic to discuss at all. They're acting like older character suddenly can't clear the latest content at all. BS
Powercreep is just for metaslave. We should play the characters we want to have fun
The only time "powercreep" should come up outside of doomposting and fearmongering (for views) is when it stops being realistically possible to do the endgame (Tower, in this case) at a reasonable investment. Like, if I NEED C/E/Whatever 6 Calc + his BiS weapon just to clear Abyss when the new unit can clear it w/ C/E/Whatever 0 and no weapon, then it might be time to start worrying. As it stands, that's not the case.
I don't have Calcharo and I have Yinlin, so I welcome this new character to complete a team, for free at that (aside from leveling them).
Disappointed that Xiangli Yao isnt a rectifier user ... As a scientist and reading his kit. The rectifier should be his weapon. Not gonna pull for him 🥱 Male rectifier when???
no pulling. he's free. you'll just have to complete the event.
bad takes not powercreep but powermid 😂 isay
Comparison is the thief of joy. You’re optimizing the fun out of the game, people should just play who they want to play at the end of the day. That doesn’t mean actively avoid meta, but if calcharo can still clear end game just fine then I see no point to a video like this.
@@darktemplar106 I'm just a messenger trying to inform people. I play whoever I feel like and of they underperform I just get sequences