300 Blackout - Does Anyone Care? Or Use It?
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300 Blackout is a cool concept, but I've found myself wondering, does anyone in real world applications use it? And does anyone even care about 300 blackout? In today's video, we break down what is is and the pros and cons of using it.
I use 300 BLK. Before this recent ammo craziness, I argued 300 BLK was the most versatile carbine round for those that didn't load their own ammo ( a few wildcats do a little better ). Yes, BLK ammo was a little pricier, but you could get 110gr varmint loads, 123 and 150gr plinking loads, 200 - 220gr subsonic plinking loads, and even 190 - 220 gr subsonic defensive loads. 300 BLK is good enough ( not always great ) for anything 0 - 200 yards, even up to medium game. When subsonic, aside from hitting harder than pistol rounds, it also carries significantly farther. A 200 gr fired at 1000 fps hits harder at 100 yards than 9mm or .45 do at the muzzle, and has half the drop. And I think it's a shame so many focus only on its subsonic use. A 110 gr V-Max at 2300 fps is a mean little bugger.
It suffers a bit from people that buy too much into the hype, thinking it can do ANYTHING ( and you can't totally fault them with the marketing hype to match ). And ammo cost will sadly stay high for a while. But if flexibility and versatility is important to you, or if you can't afford to have a bunch of specialty rifles, and if you don't shoot past 300 yards, there aren't a lot of options that can do more things.
There is a guy on youtube shooting a sonic 300BLK out WAY friggin' past 200 (600) yards and hitting steel. Subs are 200, beyond that not pretty but that's to be expected. I haven't had any of my 300's out to the range since BC, before covid. My last build was a 10.5", sadly residing in a state that is very much against firearms raises a few issues. FGN
@@UpChuckLiberals LOL buddy but you have to make some major adjustments to aiming tho. Remember 300 blackout has a small casing, which is why it's not very good beyond 200 yards.
The real magic of 300blk is not in the subsonics. Admittedly its cool being super quiet and it does present an improvement over 9mm, but the supersonics are really special if you do the math. Out of a 5.5 inch barrel with 125 grain 300blk you're getting almost 900 ft-lbs of energy at the muzzle. This is slightly more than the energy from a 10.3 MK18 with 55 grain but, given the relatively high BC of that .30 cal V-MAX bullet, that energy persists out to 300 yards. All of that and its a smaller lighter weapon with roughly half the barrel length of a MK18 and muzzle energy similar to 44mag point blank. All thanks to supersonic 300blk.
When you know, you know!
I don't even run a can or subs for this reason. People always give me hell, saying why did you buy 300 and not run subs and a can, because I know what I'm doing.
@Ass Clapper not if you reload.
I think the real magic is the extreme wide range of bullets. From 78 grain to 265 grain.
If you reload, you can build rounds tailored to your needs.
@@ihcterra4625 Exactly! Whether it's 110 gr V-max pushing 2300 fps, or some of my favorite 238 gr cast sub torpedoes for cheap plinking, I've dialed in loads specific to my gun that all function without any changes to the setup. It's become one of my favorites.
I'll out myself. I am formerly the head armorer from BAD that developed the Silent Professionals. I left the company last May before this gun was built, but before leaving, I purchased the components from BAD and built one for myself. The only two components I did not use from BAD were the bolt carrier and barrel because I knew they were out of spec. Mine uses a 7.5" Faxon with a 0.096 gas port and a nickle boron coated Aero Precision BCG. It runs both supers and subs unsuppressed like a sewing machine.
The folks left at BAD had no idea how to put these together. The owners didn't think they were losing much when I quit (six other people followed me). The owners were also never that involved or interested in the actual scientific process of how to make these run. They just wanted to sell cool looking product and hoped the price of entry would keep numbers low enough to not have customer complaints since they'd sit in a safe rather than actually get used.
They were more worried about custom paint jobs for foreign clients than actually getting their domestic demand and production correct with in spec quality components. I left, and I'm happier for it.
You've described 90% of the industry. Sadly, nobody cares about engineering and R&D anymore. It's all just hype.
@@Plomo69tell that to Atlas. I agree 90% is trash but the 10% who really care are making strides! 😊
@@peterharmon7852 Atlas phuuuucks baby!!! 💪🏼💪🏼💪🏼
Well I purchased a 300 BO from my local company - BG Defense an it rocks…loves 220gr!
Sadly I’ve heard there has been a bit of an exodus from some of the good folks at BAD. It’s a bummer honestly. But I’m glad you chimed in
in subsonic, 300b is a cqb gun. combined with a suppressor, it is one of the best home defence options you could choose. The option to swap a mag and extend your range to 300, or, get a higher energy round, makes it extremally versatile, and one thing that you didn't touch on, is that the round was developed to achieve optimal ballistics in a 8.75 inch barrel, so it runs out of a short barrel far far better than 5.56 does. In a defensive situation, it would be pritty difficult to explain why you were taking shots at someone at 300 yards away, so if we are being honest with ourselves about the most likely ranges in a home defense situation, its going to be 30 yards and in (most commonly 7-15 ft). In these ranges, indoors where concussion off walls is a thing, and ear drums exist, 300b is outstanding. Also, even if you dumped a whole mag into an intruder, i don't think anyone would be all that upset about the 30 bucks worth of ammo at that point, so the cost of ammo for home defence isn't really a consideration. My 9 mill defensive ammo is over a buck a round as well.
As for range ammo, even with current ammo prices, its available for around 65 cent a pull, with 556 being around 30c a pull currently.
And of course, if you load your own ammo, you can decrease this cost, though that is clearly less common.
As for training, since you are using an AR lower with most systems, you have the option to run a second matching upper chambered in 5.56, or even 22lr to get practice with the manual of arms in at a less expensive rate, and though supersonic 300b does recoil a bit harder than 5.56, the subs are quite soft shooting so i don't think recoil management and practice are significantly different in this equation (at least not enough that practice with a 5.56 upper would not be applicable)
As for hunting, Supersonic 300b is a superior round to 5.56 inside of 300 yards, where most hunters are taking shots, and infact, many states ban the use of 5.56 on dear sized game and up because of the lack of stopping power. (yes i am aware that you COULD kill a dear with 22lr if you had superb shot placement but that's neither realistic for most shooters, nor optimal).
At any rate, its not a replacement for 5.56 or 7.62 but it is an excellent round that serves a needed purpose - hearing safe close quarters round that can, with a supersonic mag swap, be extended out to range, or used to hunt.
Thank you.
I've killed a deer each of the last 3 years with my 8inch 300 black....and plenty of hogs a few years back
Well said.
@@assclapper2231 I believe knockdown power is Fudd term your looking for. I'm guessing by stopping power, he's referring to terminal ballistics and there's zero argument that certain cartridges have better terminal ballistics.
@@assclapper2231 what the fuck? Are you 12? Cope? I chew Copenhagen. You strike me as the type of girl that chews juicy fruit though...
the first 3 minutes was one of the highest quality storytelling moments I've EVER witnessed
Oscar worthy
Painful ❤
Awesome intro. You guys rock. I love 300 B.O. It definitely has its place in quietness and in home defense.
no sir YOU are awesome. and i agree with you man for quiet, high grain weight, home defense i think its a very viable option
Hmmmm. $2,500.00 for a B&T 9mm, or $600.00 for a PSA 8.5 inch 300 Blackout? We all know the 300 BO is so much more effective in virtually all defensive situations. Why do we all not have them? PSA's ammo company (AAC) is even producing super affordable ammo. I kind of feel it mirrors the introduction of the 10mm in the 1980s. 300 BO Is more than a niche. It will be a cult favorite. Give us the answer from your gun snob perspective!
You guys rock. I will be watching!
B&T fits under a jacket or small messenger bag easily. Your not doing that with your 8.5 inch AR-15
@@scotopicvision No civilian is carrying a 6-7 pound fully kitted out 9mm large format pistol under a jacket. What circumstances in civilian life require a bag gun?
@@scotopicvision CMMG Dissent is not far off.
@@markrippt4677 lol, by that logic…..what civilian requires a PSA 8.5 300 blackout? It serves no purpose
AAC ammo is good to go. Over 1k 9mm and 200 of blackout without issue
300 definitely has its place. 8" suppressed 300 is my primary home defense. I aimed to build something with stopping power while maintaining my audible awareness. People often overlook how important your hearing is in a bad situation. You need to be able to communicate with your family and hear where the intruders are, all while dealing with extreme stress. If you try to let off one of these platforms in your hallway unsuppressed, you can say goodbye to one of your most important senses.
You have that right I've been there and couldn't hear for a bit lol
300blk suppressed is my go to home defense weapon as well. 208gr A-max is my favorite. 125gr fiochi blue tips are my favorite supers
what does overpenetration look like compared to 9mm hollowpoints? Is it significantly riskier to have a stray bullet go into the house next door, etc?
@@WheresTheAnyKey1 This is just [my] opinion based on [my] personal testing and research, and is not advise or anything else. In my opinion a 220 gr VMax 300 BLK bullet is less likely to over penetrate because of the immediate expansion upon impact and the fragmentation of the bullet as it passes through material. From the research I have done, the rounds with the greatest harm of over penetration are FMJ and TMJ bullets. A 300 BLK 110gr FMJ or TMJ bullet will have significant over penetration and in my opinion should never be used any kind of home defense weapon.
What if the bad guy(s) shoot back? Hope you have some ear muffs.
I care. I care a lot.
Now try 50 Beowulf.
Or .450 bushmaster
I care too. Let's start a me too movment against blackout abuse
I do too brother! I do too
When Chris punched Jake out of the video I lost it! That was incredible and caught me completely off guard lol
It’s called special effects
so stupid right 🤣🤣
@@1911syndicate nah, phuck dat, Chris really punches that hard.
@@1911syndicate you mean to tell me you didnt actually do that? UNSUBBED
Honestly one of the funniest things I’ve seen in a while.
People need to buy more 300Blk.
It's superior to pistol caliber (which was designed) and can be effective as 7.62x39 with a mag swap to supers. is 80% compatible with AR15s (barrel change only) and has effectively made the AR15 a platform with 3 different calibers (.223/5.56, 300blk subs, 300blk supers)
That kind of versatility is unheard of.
Buy more, drive price down, benefit.
300 blackout helped me stockpile during the pandemic when I couldn’t get me 5.56 rifle or bullets
See that’s awesome cause now you have that already for the future. Silver lining
what? no 5.56, but blackout? Do you live in Europe?
@@kalidilerious nah I live in America lol ppl just got stupid and panic bought all the tp baby stuff 9mm and 5.56 and for some reason ps5
@@settlesmachiningtools8671 should of gone with 223. You also have the option to shoot 5.56.
@@kalidilerious i have a 5.56/.223 Adam’s arms now which ironically I sold that psa to get the upper and eventually I built a lower. If 2020 has taught me anything is don’t sleep on a gun that I really want cause the next wuhan flu will be dam near impossible to get
Y’all had me rolling with the intro 😂. On other note yes I have a 300blackout for my home defense. Don’t wanna blow my ears out
your pose is like a female UFC fighter
Great video guys! My go to 300 blackout is the pws mk109 mod 2 w/omega 300 can and not only does it look sexy it cycles everything! One of my favorite in my collection! I know piston guns aren't everyone's jam but I can't say enough about it! Shooting hogs or home defense , running it dirty or clean, it works!! Thanks for the awesome content guys! Cheers!
$1300 for an upper is just too much.
bro how does that run? jake and i both love PWS stuff
@Chrisblau like a dream brotha! Even when it's filthy! Omega 300 seems to be a good match for her. I don't have to adjust the gas block as much as u would think when switching between subs and supers, I think I have it on 2 and haven't touched it in a while. Ironically I was almost gonna buy the silent professional but ran into some guys at rainier arms and after some chit chatting ended up ordering the pws; so glad I did. Cheers!
@@calebclark6739 poor much
If I shoot a 300Blk with out ear protection will it blow my ears out? What barrel twist is best for 110 to 150 gr. ?😅
Love this gentlemen. This was a pure cinematic gold. 💥👌🏽😎
First off great vid! The intro was awesome and i appreciate the work yall put in. I like 300 blkout because I can legally deer hunt with it in my state. In home defense ranges it's gonna do fine, that said I wouldn't own just a 300 blkout. You definitely own a 556 first and own both calibers in my opinion.
And this sir is logical reasoning that I completely agree with.
Its good to have, especially when its just an upper swap why not. I hunt with my Christensen MPR I wouldn't take my 300 BO out unless I was hunting thicker stuff. The 300 BO suppressed is great for home defense, mount the brightest light you can buy I have a Fenix its knarley bright
Ive come to really enjoy the journey these two have taken! Lively and entertaining . Sometimes they come up with something thought provoking. I love how they introduced the 'dark-side' without giving it any real props! For example .300 Blackout is a great deer hunting round in the Mid-Atlantic states ... down to Fla. Also slays Hogs .
Still love my Honey Badger and Trash Panda, Subs all day everyday baby!
@20:52-@27:19... Oof! DAAAMN! That sucks that a manufacturer... [COUGH Battle Arms COUGH]... would give you guys such a dud to review. Why TF would anybody make a rifle in .300 BLK that ONLY runs supersonic ammo? That totally negates the purpose of the diverse options that the .300 BLK has to offer. SMH
You nailed it exactly and we had this exact conversation
I have no clue
Right & sounds like Jake & Chris gave them plenty of opportunity to make it right.
if i was 6 feet from a 1200lb hungry grizzly i would rather hit him with thirty rounds of 300 blk 110grn vmax out of 10.5 barrel than thirty rounds of any kind of 5.56 out of 10.5blr, trust me.
It’s such an expensive round. Otherwise a great round in its specific application
7.62x39 still preforms better
@@zack9912000 Care to be specific on that? If 7.62x39 subsonic was so great, why bother making 9x39?
@Jaron Plenty of online research on this very topic, 300BLK only stays above other choices when surpressed in an SBR configuration. Even that 45acp surpessed has almost the same energy. 300blk is very expensive and hard to find for a very small market when it shines. The majority of owners don't use it for what it was designed specifically for, which at that point it is dumb to own, other rounds easily out perform it.
When compared to 7x62x39, they are nearly exactly the same in performance in supersonic loads. Why spend 2 to 3 times as much on 300blk if a person is never going to supress it or run in as a SBR. 7.62x39 also performs great as small a 7 inch gun.
300blk is optimized for short barrels, 5,56 is not. 300blk won't even heat up you can after a mag dump. sbr 556 eats cans. 300blk no flash no smoke and runs cool. 300blk is hated by cheapo's because ammo price. 110 grn vmax dismembers the enemy!
I've noticed many insist on comparing the 300Blk with 5.56 or 7.62x51.
300 Blk was developed to replace the 9mm in CQB OP's.
Nobody compares it to 9mm because there’s no contest. 300 BLK beats 9mm easily.
Comparing supersonic .300 blk with 7.62x39 however is fair, since it has almost the same trajectory but from a shorter barrel and allowing more capacity and parts compatibility with the 5.56 (like the BCG).
I watched the video and could care less.
I’ve had a PSA 8.5 in 300 for years now. Never had an issue with subs or supers. I find it to be an excellent gun for civilian type use. To the point made, ballistics are great for a home defense/explain to a court why you were taking a self defense shot past 100 yards type PDW in comparison to short barreled 5.56
Subs I rarely find under $1/rd but I do get some decent supers for ~0.60 a rd from LAX, AAC, and freedom munitions.
Awesome intro! Once I hit my 50s and with failing sight, I admitted I will never shoot more than 300 yds. Ever. If I have a 300 yd distance, I have room to escape lol. And I wanted suppressed. So 300 was a total no brainer for me.
Perfect Response!
300 blackout is still the best self defense round and setup nothin compares to power to barrel length
The intro deserves both writing & cinematic awards 😂
It's my go to gun. 300 blackout 10.5 in barrel. Your problem is point black gas management. Mine has an adjustable gas block. Set right you can run subsonic with the suppressor perfectly and supersonic without. Sorry you can't run both both ways and have it cycle perfectly without adjusting the gas block. Which is in fact easy if you know what you are doing. But because I set it up mostly for night fire with nods it's set for subs and stays that way. 300 blackout is great. Mine is as quiet as a car door being shut hard.
Ammo availability is the literal achilles heal of this round. If I could just go and easily grab ammo all the time and at reasonable-ish prices I would use my 300BO shorty more often. Every time I get a decent supersonic option and then a subsonic option and figure out my optic holds the ammo disappears.
PSA makes cheap 300 in their AAC brand. Go buy a case or fifteen.
Reloading make it a great cartridge to shoot.
Reloading is so fun.
I see a lot of it in stock online. Looks like average for cheaper stuff is about 60 cents a round. I guess that's but too bad. I dunno, I have hopes it'll come down more still but that might just be wishful thinking 😂
@@Glandash Heck, even 11.99 per 20 rounds! 300 BLK is cheap as heck to shoot. (making your point for you)
“300 Blackout is just a more expensive way of making 7.62X39” - Sun Tzu, probably
baaahahah 😂😂😂
I was skeptical for a few years, then built a 10.5 and worked up some reloads. The hype was a bit much at first, but its what I expected.
they run cool and don't eat cans.
Watched for the LP-1
Great video production, honest review.
Love the round, hopefully more ammo producers like AAC (company owned my PSA) start making affordable ammo (125gr supers at $13ish).
Unfortunately I live in a no suppressor state.
Thanks guys!
300blk is my go to for urban areas (plus, i love shooting suppressed) and 6.5 Grendel for rural areas. I just keep 5.56 around because its cheaper to shoot and ammo availability will be far more abundant should things collapse…
Love that 6.5 Grendel also. The ammo is crazy hard to find locally, and the brass isn't so easy to find either.
@Richard McDonald idk where you are at but 6.5 Grendel is fairly abundant in Arizona. I think it will continue to gain popularity and become more available in years to come.
Irregardless of what all these online spec sheet chasing youngsters say about the 6mm ARC being superior (talk about hard to find ammo)! Lol! 6mm ARC has slightly less bullet drop, at the expense of half the barrel life of a 6.5mm Grendel. 6mm ARC ammo is 10 times harder to find, it's twice as expensive & no subsonic options. With all that in mind, I feel that the 6.5 Grendel is the greatest do all AR round ever and I cannot see anything coming out anytime soon that could rival it's power and versatility.
I had issues with my 1st 6.5 Grendel build and have discovered that they seem to require heavy buffers to function properly. I'm on my 3rd 6.5 Grendel build now. It's a super lightweight monolithic upper, pinned & welded 14.5 inch barreled scout rifle AR.
I aim to make Marine Col. Jeff Cooper smile from Heaven :-) with this build! It will be my Do-all/every situation rifle. Light enough for run & gun and powerful enough for larger game with welk placed shots.
IMHO, 6.5 Grendel is the greatest thing to ever happen to the AR15 platform and I am super surprised that the Military hasn't utilized this great round....
@@cardboardkiller6883 You guys who live out west seem to have a better supply channel. My buddy moved to AZ and sends me pix of things that are on the self there that have not been in South Fl for months. The last Grendel brass in stock was Midway. It sold out in a few hours. The bolt is one reason the Military won't use the Grendel. If you're going to break something on a AR Grendel, it'll be the bolt.
@Richard McDonald (going on just what I have experienced in my travels) it seems like some places in the South have surprisingly strict laws on guns & trucks. I can't help but wonder if AZ's laxed gun control has something to do with our abundance of ammo. Of course, the mass Granola exodus from California that is infesting my state are already hard at work, trying to turn it into the same expensive and restricted shit hole that they just ran away from!
In regards to the 6.5G bolts being prone to breaking, this is the 1st I've heard about it but being that I know that the issue exists with 7.62x39 AR bolts, it makes sense. We'll, I learned something new and will look into it. I would think the the issue could be overcome with our advanced modern day metallurgy. Perhaps it's not cost effective to do so? On the other hand, the new Spear rifle isn't exactly cheap either. From my personal experiences with government contracts, I can't help but wonder if company/manufacturer/distributor politics, palms not getting enough grease and lack of cash filled envelopes sliding under conference tables might not at least be part of it. One thing that I am sure of is that I will probably end up knowing as much about the why as I do the who on "the grassy knoll. Lol
@@cardboardkiller6883 I still wonder if we, the US Mil, really procure anything on a truly need and application basis. For the longest time, complaints about the terminal ballistics of the 5.56 could have been fixed by changing the projectile. M16-A2 with 1:7 twist would spin a 75 grain bullet far and fast enough to be more lethal at longer distances. Now we're looking and spending to get a projectile no one will be using but US. We used to look for interoperability, NATO uses the same ammo. So, we get a system that defeats level ? body armor at ranges the average soldier can't shoot. My M16A1 MER was 460 meters in a 100-meter, NAM environment. Cut the barrel and go to a 400+ meter environment, the SAND, but complain the round won't stop the fight fast enough. When was the last time a Procurement Officer had to hump what he's procuring?
Chris did the entire "Hero's Journey" arc in 28minutes. From underdog with a heart of gold followed by the call to action when Jack died, overcame his inner demons of being inadequate, then finally conquered the evil of internet arguments. In the end, it was a story about family.
Well said, Vinn.
😂😂😂 dude this is the best 😂😂 story about family? Haha I’m dying
It's always about family. In the beginning...
Freaking hilarious opening!!! Well done guys!
300blk has come down considerably according to Ammoseek. Less than 308. But I don't think those are subs.
You’re an absolute bad ass for telling the truth about the experience that you had with the gun itself and being so professional about it
Thank you
".... .300 blackout stayed at home ..... and ate"
Ahh.... debate over. I'm switching out my upper and getting a brick of .300 blackout right now.
147 grain 300 BLK is 100% just to be cheap. It's really easy to source 147 bullets due to it being the standard grain weight for 308/7.62NATO. 200-220 grain is for subs, supers should be about 100 to 120 for some extra velocity.
Guns in 300 BLK should always be able to run subs, it's the entire point of 300 BLK.
It's actually NOT the entire point of 300BLK, but just another internet myth that has continued to be perpetrated and only become viable in the last year with bullets designed to expand at subsonic velocity. The purpose was a SOCOM solicitation for a cartridge that would meet or exceed the terminal ballistics of a 124gr 7.62x39 fired from a 12.5" AK104 using the M4 platform and a barrel 10.3" or shorter with minimal unsuppressed flash. You aren't getting that performance with subs and the flash signature/short barrel performance was achieved using the fast burning pistol powders to crank up chamber pressure fast and burn off within 7.5-9". At the time it was developed, the only .308 projectiles available for subsonic use were heavy .308 used for 300WM, WSM, 30-06, and .308 WIN, all of which require supersonic velocity to perform terminally. These rounds, while on paper seem superior to 9mm and 45 ACP by the numbers, would be moving too slowly and stable to have terminal effect on a soft target and would just pass completely through. Terminal performance requires tumbling at a minimum and either expansion or fragmentation to truly wound in a capacity to down an animal humanely or stop a threat.
I wasn't a believer myself until I fired off some subs from an 8in suppressed gun
Great video dudes. I have a Daniel Defense PDW in 300BLK, love that thing. 7 inch barrel, collapsible maxim stock, definitely a great weapon for home defense. Shoots well, have no problems so far. 2nd rifle in 300BLK I have is a Palmetto. Bought their upper and lower to put together. I think that upper is a 10.5. Just haven’t used it yet but wanted to see how it would do. At least if it sucks, I have a whole lower I can use for another 5.56 build.
Quit saying "right" so much. Go listen. Otherwise, good info.
Right?!
This is an award worthy film. The narration and the acting is top notch!!! I was in tears. 😂😂😂
Read me another story 🤣😂🤣😂🙏🏿👍🏿
.300 blackout is cool in the same way 6.5 creedmore is and that being it fills a niche but you'll pay for it, I tried an 8 inch .300 blackout AR pistol but I didn't have a suppressor so its benefit was minimal, I built an LR308 in .308 Winchester because the ammo is far cheaper and I cannot exploit the benefit at distance of the 6.5mm, so there are cool things but they tend to be cool in a certain context
5.56 is like hitting the target with a speeding car.
300blk is hitting the target a bit slower...but with an SUV.
Put another way, rocking 300BLK is like having a short dik...but it’s got the diameter of a pickle jar.
0:44 is that a Lead&Steel Promethean LP-1??!?
300 Blackout. My favorite AR round even though it's stupid expensive...still.
Thank you guys for always being upfront and honest with your reviews. We appreciate it.
When the SHTF here in the USA (and it will), distance is your friend. Barrel length gets shorter as part of the game mfgs create so they can sell new product. It has been stainless steel barrels for a couple of years now. IMO, you are better off with 6.8 SPC II than the 300blk from 0-500 meters. 300blk was a marketing round. Subsonic rounds are what it is meant for. Quiet close-in intervention. Distance is not what the round was created for, though every tacti-cool dude wants to push their round a a great +500 yd round, when they are not.
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I’m a 7.62x.39 man my self but that’s just cuz I’m a poor and can’t afford suppressor tax stamps yet…. Looks like a fun and effective round though
Can't wait for the Promethean review! Looking forward this one too.
It's a red dot like the Sig 8T. I did a video review on it. Looking forward to the syndicate take.
It's like an 8T but the shroud is reversed and screws moved slightly on a visual level. The performance on paper seems the same too. That being said if it's a clone for way cheaper he'll yeah.
Yeah, seems like an interesting optic, though I cancelled my preorder on one just for the weight alone. Not much lighter than its 8T counterpart, and that thing was a pig for just being a dot sight.
This review was brutal. Mortal Combat: "Finish Him!"
BTW, funny intro. Enjoyed it.
Just here to say, you guys, sage dynamics, mountainsmulletsmerica, 😢and small arms solutions are my Metallica, anthrax, slayer, and megadeath of UA-cam. Ur all GOATs!
Haha Metallica maybe
Yeah, Chris at Small Arms is *Megadeath!* 🤟😁
Broook best comment ever? Can we please be Slayer?
Which one is Slayer?
@@michaeljacobs5619 I’m dying to know
This vid is way behind the times. .300 blackout is a proven badass round. There is a reason is was selected for jsocs new PDWs.
I believe 300BO could be a good replacement for 3030 win,and 3006 Springfield,in the northern Michigan Deer woods.
Note to self: Bring donuts to next range day
I love my blackout… it is an awesome little round. Lots of cool bullet variations with a hush hush spout! Plus it is fun to nail deer and hogs with.
I really enjoy watching 300blk gain users and viewers. With every million mentions 220gr goes down .03 cents lol.
I like it for suppressed and short barrels. Makes more sense to me than 5.56 under 14.5/11.5“ barrels. I know you said the MK18 can punch out to 300 yards. My question-what’s the terminal performance on target from a MK18 at 300 yards?
Less energy than a flick lol.
I know it's still lethal, if thats your question. I sure wouldn't run 62gr M855 from it, unless thats all you have.
After having been shot by 9mm, my interest in terminal performance conversations has waned signifigantly. Lethalty is much much much more dependent on where youre shot than bullet expansion, fragmentation, etc...
10.5 300blk can reach out to 300yrds and hit way harder than 5.56, 110grn vmax is the way to go can or no can.
It’s enough to ruin your day if you get hit by 556 at 300
I use the 300 BO for an economical 100 yard target round. With projectiles that cost 25 cents or less, with loads of about 20 grains of pistol powder, 1-hole groups are possible. Not subsonic, 2000 fps.
I love the brutally honest reviews. Keep em' coming.
Battle Arms is garbage. I bought several of their billet receivers and one was so out of spec it would barely fit any type of AR mag. I called them and they basically told me to F off.
You can find .300BLK in bulk for like .70 cents a round. The cost claim is quickly diminishing with current production capacities. Also, 110gr .300BLK out of a 10” barrel has the same if not slightly more ft/lbs than 5.56 out of a 16” barrel. So even in supersonic velocities .300BLK kicks ass.
Why on earth would battle arms build it for 147g?! Build it for suppressed subs and it'll run supers just fine.
I love it for the versatility. So many great 308 loadings for supers. Subs are more of a novelty anyway. The true self defense subs are a fortune and hard to find.
Seems that for the most part, subs for SD don't perform as advertised. You really have to kick out some cash to get subs that will reliably fragment or expand. If all the subs will do is match 45 ACP ballistics, just pull the trigger a couple of more times to stop the fight.
**It Looks like this guys are recording the video at 0° temperatures 🥶 crazy 🥶
Had my eye on 8.6 when I saw a ballistics gel video and the subsonic round. It’s everything I’ve ever wanted lol. Just started my 300blk venture so maybe in a couple of years 8.6 will be a part of my life as well. Your footage at the end of the video was awesome. Keep killing it guys love the content.
It looks like a promising cartridge. I would wait for the actual manufacturing of ammo to work out the kinks but the main appeal is it's ability to run out of 308 magpul mags reliably. Buying proprietary magazines and followers are never a good thing imo.
8.6 definitely looks promising. Now if we could get a spec AR10 platform...
@@2amichaelj you, sir, are just speaking the honest to God truth lol.
@@2amichaelj WILSON COMBAT AR10 Platform in 8.6?
Can't wait for 8.6 in AR platform to come out
Looks like beautiful muley country.
Would be interesting if you guys could get a hold of a BCM. I have a LaRue Tactical 12” in .300 and it runs like a champ. I also have and MCX Virtus 9” that I run with a OSS can that works great. Wish the ammo was cheaper. 🤣
I actually ran a couple mags through one and it ran like a champ and suppressed very well
300 blackout is great if you are spec ops with suppressed AR on a mission at night , if not , dont waste your time or money for the stupidity.
If you're not casting this review to your TV, you're doing it wrong.
A+ fight mechanics.
Yes thank you.
baaahahahah
I love 300blk its just plain fun . As far as ballistics is concerned I wouldn't want to get shot with it lol
My go to gun at the moment is my MCX LVAW wannabe…run 220 subs and then dumped a bit of money into stockpiling 110gr TTSX…the versatility is where it shines…
Well not that I was ever planning to buy from that company but this damn sure made certain I won't.
I hope Battle Arms makes good on your weapon, pretty sad if they don’t
Knowing what I know it's par for the course. When I was there I bent over backwards to get something taken care of when it went wrong without the ownership ever getting involved. Sadly, there is no expert customer support since all the actual experts have left for greener pastures. All they can do is come up with a way to blame the customer and then ghost the contact.
That was well done... I'm still laughing !!!! 😂😂😂😂😂😂
Love the intro 😂. I really agree and feel with “100 yards and in i would shoot it all day if it wasn’t a dollar a rd. “ That being said I have found some AAC brand 300blk for 60cents a rd occasionally
300 BO is cheaper if you make it yourself. I've probably made 5-7K's worth out of 223 and 556 brass.
I live on 5 acres. My 300 Blkout pistols and AR platforms have 300 blkout uppers and everything is zeroed to 100 m which equals the general perimeter of my property.
The beauty of 300 Blkout was that anything I had collected , magazines, lowers, bolt carriers etc easily accept the round and because of the large variety of rounds , I can pick different magazines which are all identified with specific markings for sub, tracer, super and black tip. This caliber does everything I need for perimeter security here in the forest and at 100 m it has a very tight group.
I shoot it in my backyard with my aac can and my neighbors never even know I am practicing or complain.
Cost is a factor but once things are sorted out , there are cheaper ways to train with the AR platform.
It is my go to weapon for carrying in a backpack pistol with hundreds of rounds .
You ever have issues with stuffing 300 subs in 556 mags? They won't feed. I had this issue. The bullet shoulders are too big and catch in the 556 mags. I could stuff them with 110-125gr no problem. Just went to 300 mags, zero issues...
Wow, don't care! I'm sticking with my Colt H-bar. I can reach out and touch your eye @ 550yards and you'll never hear it...
Outstanding job, guys! Anyone who thumbed down this video is just pissed they overpaid for a 458 SOCOM.
100% truth sir 😂😂😂
Best to have built both! Super fun
I custom built a .450 Bushmaster AR. I finally got it running like a sewing machine, but the rounds are $2.15 a piece.
Oh, and my should is sore after 60 rounds.
It’s cool. It was just too expensive and hard to find back when i was having that.
Love this round. Built an ADM with Noveske barrel and simply put my Omega 9k on it and it is quiet. Matches my 556. ADM makes great stuff.
Oh snap, when you dropping a video on the promethean?
Soon good sir 👊🏼
Next week
300 Blk is the only caliber I trust with a barrel under 10 inches. Especially suppressed
yep
Yea, great round for its very niche for what it was intended for. Really hard to be for that purpose, for anything else there is better rounds.
I use a Ruger bolt gun canned for hunting in .300blk and it works well for hearing protection and I’ve harvested over 2 dozen deer and hundreds of feral hogs. I also have an SBR with a can that my wife uses for home defense and for her daily commute. She carries an x-macro too, but the 300 is for a shtf situation on the highway aka a riot masked as a protest. Too much? Perhaps, but better to have and not need than need and not have.
@@zack9912000 I wouldn't say it's "very niche." So many think 300 BLK is only for subsonic close-quarter work. You can load a 110 - 125 gr bullet that can drop a mule deer or feral hog at 200 yards. Out to 300 it will drop man-sized targets and smaller predators.
@@zack9912000 and that intended purpose is short barrel rifles used for close quarters work, only useful rifles in my densely forested area where shots are not over 100yrds. most of the time you can't see 20 feet in front of you under the triple canopy rainforest i live in. not a good shtf round though, because, ammo availability will be slim to none when the country collapses. 5.56 will be everywhere. imo everyone should have at least one blackout build, just because, why not. plus you can run aluminum suppressors with 300blk no prob. suppressors last way longer with 300blk and they barely heat up, they stay cool to the touch even after multiple mag dumps.
I run BCM side charging uppers. NO issues, over 2K now sub and supers. Sorry you got one from a crap manufacturer.
I snagged the AAC upper back in like 2013 and its been so good. Its unfortunate you had so many issues with your 300BLK.
And I love .300blk, it’s the ultimate for your edc truck/backpack/bedside/cqb gun imho. Can even hunt deer with it, very nice round.
This introduction had me cracking the fuck up😁🤣👌🏿😂
What jacket is broke back Jake wearing?
It’s from Sitka arrowhead which Sitka unwise shut down
Broke back Jake 😂😂😂😂
The opening was great absolutely love it.
Also it’s 300 blackout… it’s designed to be quiet why would you build it to be supersonic i got 5.56 for that, and I bet the twist rate is 1/7 instead of being 1/5
8.6 blackout I’m interested in it for hunting 100 yards and in I won’t be taking any long distance shots with it.
If you aren't using it for CQB. I use 300 blk supers for hog hunting at night where we can sneak in to less that 150 yds with night vision. With a short barrel and short shots the 300 blk is more effective than 5.56. For longer shots I would use 6.5 grendel. The 5.56 is obsolete unless you are doing joint NATO exercise.
Honestly, I mainly use 300blk. I prefer shorter rifles and don't really need the range of a 5.56.
Yes I use my 300 Black Out and it works absolutely great while suppressed.
I reloaded so many subs starting 4 years ago. I got like 4K subs now and they are quiet. So glad I reloaded all those back then. I shoot it sparingly now and just hang on to my loads. Running a built 8” BA barrel with a deadair sandman S. Love this gun.
Still a bit of the Russian accent from the ppsh video lingering
Being in the middle of a very expensive SR30 build I was like “uh-oh am I going to regret this build?” Just sent my blood money & finger prints to the constitution haters 9 days ago. I understand the limits of this build but It’s for home defense along with my USP 45tac. Felt better after watching the video cause I really respect your opinions/reviews.🤙🏻
Sr30??? What is it? Tell me more....
@@jonathank7394 KNIGHT ARMAMENT SR 30 is either an SBR or with pistol brace. Compact 9" .300 Blackout. Cost: $2,800 and Up. They are in Titusville, FL and have a huge fan base.Excellent suppressors etc..