What's the wildest part is how much sail area they have, how much force and pressure the sail area gains, and yet it's able to fly just on those tiny kickstand like twigs for foils... It's insane how far sailing has come in the past decade since foils have trulky come out and are now being applied on so many boats... Especially with the already super fast 16 to 18ft skiffs , the narcs 18s, and now one design clubbswann 36, and the single double handed beneteau Figaro's are awesome,
A ruling for Holcim makes the record awarding body and the award a farce. It would be saying the measurement system is too imprecise to be viewed as reliable. If it is unreliable to this extent, then the two boats can only be held to hold the record jointly. Either way is a hollow victory for Kevin's team, knowing Malizia actually went faster.
With regard to the record, if they don't want to give the record to the actual record breaking boat (Malizia) then it's pointless even having it... setting some arbitrary amount it needs to be beaten by means they don't actually care what boats do the hard work.. Just that they are in control of it. Malizia did the distance, it is right it is theirs.
After the next VDG (2024), IMOCA rules will probably authorize "elevator", or T-Foil (horizontal foil mounted on rudder so the boat can be more easily maintained out of the water reducing noisedives). So for next Ocean Race (2027), 24 hours speed records may be beaten with a very large gap as "elevator" could be a key factor in a next huge performance improvement of this monohull class. T-foils are not currently authorized because IMOCA class also manage to not make a boat obsolete too early. An IMOCA is designed to last around 20 years before being definitively declassified. Keeping old boats in fleet along with newer boats offer an IMOCA for a large scale of budget, but class manage to keep, as much as possible, a reasonable performance gap between old boats and new boats, this is the reason why sometimes some technical improvements are "delayed". Also not that full "scow bow design" is not authorized at this moment, exactly for the same reasons. What we see in IMOCA class is sometimes an "hybrid scow design" (as Sam Manuard's design for the Sam Davis' IMOCA, as opposed Guillaume Verdier doesn't like so much "scow" as it render awfull performance in upwind and light wind). You can see real scow bow in mini 6.50 class. This design has been introduced by David Raison taking directly inspiration of some american "scow" (but in fact such concept did exist very long time before) Foils have been authorized for marketing reasons as "foiling" has really made IMOCA internationally popular (before IMOCA were only known by french people and a little by british people), and because it has been possible to upgrade many "non foiler" boats to "foil", as opposed to full scow bow design. Any upgrade is impossible, a boat can be only "natively scow bow"
Am I correct? The Ocean Race teams were unaware of this margin to win the record before the race began. And after Malizia’s speed and mileage were confirmed by a governing body - This particular governing body made this decision which plays with the Spirit of the competition, sailors’ emotions and technology. (So the Bar owner has to give the timepiece back?) As healthy competitors relying on sophisticated technology to sail these boats on the edge, it is unfortunate to mess with the validity of their accomplishments and their incredible sailing skill as measured by this sophisticated technology. After much deliberation this committee appears to have decided that this technology cannot be relied upon after all. What a shame!!! Well I, and many, many others, do rely on it and cheer ‘Way To Go Malizia’. The team that has fun and wins.
I’m afraid you’re not (but appreciate you taking the time to drop us a line). The rules on speed records are nothing to do with the race. The rules on margin that qualifies have been in place for many years. In the case of this distance record the margin required is 1 nautical mile. We suspect the issue will be more about who actually applied for the record. Time will tell
yes rules are rules but the 1 mile distance is a totally arbitrary number. Malizia have sailed a greater distance in 24h than any boat before them. Why does some self proclaimed body think they can rule and say they didn't? It's an outright record, just as a speed record is an outright number regardless of how fast any previous record holder went.
Way to go Team M. Official or not you still went farther. Love your channel. Thanks for the great content all the time.
Absolute INSANE Sailing!
What's the wildest part is how much sail area they have, how much force and pressure the sail area gains, and yet it's able to fly just on those tiny kickstand like twigs for foils... It's insane how far sailing has come in the past decade since foils have trulky come out and are now being applied on so many boats... Especially with the already super fast 16 to 18ft skiffs , the narcs 18s, and now one design clubbswann 36, and the single double handed beneteau Figaro's are awesome,
A ruling for Holcim makes the record awarding body and the award a farce. It would be saying the measurement system is too imprecise to be viewed as reliable. If it is unreliable to this extent, then the two boats can only be held to hold the record jointly. Either way is a hollow victory for Kevin's team, knowing Malizia actually went faster.
The lighting in Malizia when they were celebrating, is better than some of the clubs we go to 😂😂 What an epic accomplishment 🌟👌
I like these boats so much more than the Americas Cup boats. These foil, but still look like boats and can truly sail around the world.
With regard to the record, if they don't want to give the record to the actual record breaking boat (Malizia) then it's pointless even having it... setting some arbitrary amount it needs to be beaten by means they don't actually care what boats do the hard work.. Just that they are in control of it.
Malizia did the distance, it is right it is theirs.
Well said.
😮 7 days to sail across the Atlantic,
+640 miles/24 hours,
then
+641 miles/24 hours,
Oh My Goodness.
These are Space Ships 🚀
After the next VDG (2024), IMOCA rules will probably authorize "elevator", or T-Foil (horizontal foil mounted on rudder so the boat can be more easily maintained out of the water reducing noisedives).
So for next Ocean Race (2027), 24 hours speed records may be beaten with a very large gap as "elevator" could be a key factor in a next huge performance improvement of this monohull class.
T-foils are not currently authorized because IMOCA class also manage to not make a boat obsolete too early.
An IMOCA is designed to last around 20 years before being definitively declassified.
Keeping old boats in fleet along with newer boats offer an IMOCA for a large scale of budget, but class manage to keep, as much as possible, a reasonable performance gap between old boats and new boats, this is the reason why sometimes some technical improvements are "delayed".
Also not that full "scow bow design" is not authorized at this moment, exactly for the same reasons. What we see in IMOCA class is sometimes an "hybrid scow design" (as Sam Manuard's design for the Sam Davis' IMOCA, as opposed Guillaume Verdier doesn't like so much "scow" as it render awfull performance in upwind and light wind). You can see real scow bow in mini 6.50 class. This design has been introduced by David Raison taking directly inspiration of some american "scow" (but in fact such concept did exist very long time before)
Foils have been authorized for marketing reasons as "foiling" has really made IMOCA internationally popular (before IMOCA were only known by french people and a little by british people), and because it has been possible to upgrade many "non foiler" boats to "foil", as opposed to full scow bow design. Any upgrade is impossible, a boat can be only "natively scow bow"
For those curious!! 25mph x 24hr = 600miles
I hope/expect the minimum 1 mile improvement reference is the current rectified record by Comanche.
Southland 💘
Haha let's have a siezures party doing 30plus knots haha
Am I correct? The Ocean Race teams were unaware of this margin to win the record before the race began. And after Malizia’s speed and mileage were confirmed by a governing body - This particular governing body made this decision which plays with the Spirit of the competition, sailors’ emotions and technology. (So the Bar owner has to give the timepiece back?) As healthy competitors relying on sophisticated technology to sail these boats on the edge, it is unfortunate to mess with the validity of their accomplishments and their incredible sailing skill as measured by this sophisticated technology. After much deliberation this committee appears to have decided that this technology cannot be relied upon after all. What a shame!!! Well I, and many, many others, do rely on it and cheer ‘Way To Go Malizia’. The team that has fun and wins.
I’m afraid you’re not (but appreciate you taking the time to drop us a line). The rules on speed records are nothing to do with the race. The rules on margin that qualifies have been in place for many years. In the case of this distance record the margin required is 1 nautical mile. We suspect the issue will be more about who actually applied for the record. Time will tell
Oh. Thank you for setting me straight
Wait a minute. It’s about who actually applied for the record?! Not about what we all saw.? You’re kidding.
@@jericlarke3809 Records apparently are not reality .
Good to lean
If Malizia not getting the record, not acceptable at all. A joke to sailing BS and such petty nonsense. And obvious jealousy
Rules are rules stick to them or it all a joke
yes rules are rules but the 1 mile distance is a totally arbitrary number. Malizia have sailed a greater distance in 24h than any boat before them. Why does some self proclaimed body think they can rule and say they didn't? It's an outright record, just as a speed record is an outright number regardless of how fast any previous record holder went.