Ghosts France: Historian analyses what we know about the new sitcom adaptation so far

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  • @mossandfrogs
    @mossandfrogs День тому +32

    it’s incredible how adaptable this story is. i can even imagine a group of teens making a version about their school for a project, and even that would probably be interesting to me lol

    • @piperks_
      @piperks_ 6 годин тому +2

      There’s a show similar to what you’re describing called School Spirits. Except in this show the main character mysteriously dies on school grounds. In the afterlife she’s met with other ghosts who inhabit the school and they all try to solve the mystery of how she died. I believe there is one character who can see her as a ghost, but I’m not sure what the circumstances are involving that.

  • @jimg9820
    @jimg9820 День тому +52

    I got the impression that the Button house plague pit victims were living (and died) in a village that was on the future site of Button House - the plague killed so many (or all) of the villagers that it was abandoned , so was available for Humphrey Bone to build his pad on.

    • @lloydcollins6337
      @lloydcollins6337 День тому +6

      Not that not being available would stop a lot of nobles from destroying a village they own.

    • @AtomicAus
      @AtomicAus День тому +1

      yep, I believe that is shown in the book.

    • @WyattRyeSway
      @WyattRyeSway День тому +1

      Yeah….i think that’s what happened

    • @spongebakesquarepansgaming
      @spongebakesquarepansgaming 19 годин тому

      @@AtomicAus what book?

    • @AtomicAus
      @AtomicAus 18 годин тому +1

      @spongebakesquarepansgaming Ghosts: The Button House Archives

  • @bobemmerson1580
    @bobemmerson1580 День тому +83

    I will say zis only once. French uniforms for WWI were horizon blue, so it's almost certainly (trying to be) a WWII uniform.

    • @classicaljg
      @classicaljg  День тому +20

      Good point - I should have remembered that from two of my favourite French films! (Joyeux Noel, in which they wear older uniforms from 1914, and A Very Long Engagement)

    • @CAP198462
      @CAP198462 День тому +1

      @@bobemmerson1580 even sporting a de Gaulle moustache.

    • @Marzbar90
      @Marzbar90 День тому +2

      I’m glad they brought back the ww2 solider they can’t do it for the German one for obvious reasons

    • @Sarge1886
      @Sarge1886 День тому +1

      @Marzbar90I kinda wish the German version did have a WW2 ghost. He could have been a politician that, while he was a party member, was very much trying to undermine the party. Hell, he could’ve been the show’s punching bag while only being problematic in name only

    • @Marzbar90
      @Marzbar90 День тому +1

      @ so many people may take it the wrong way it’s better to play it safe

  • @goblin-teeth
    @goblin-teeth День тому +51

    Just came here from your previous Ghosts video. Can't believe there's going to be a French version, that's so exciting!

  • @TheCharmanderMaster
    @TheCharmanderMaster День тому +26

    Now i must live long enough to see every nation get their own version of Ghosts . What a fun way to learn history!

  • @timsmith5339
    @timsmith5339 18 годин тому +4

    I never would have thought, when watching the original Ghosts, that there would be other versions made. I've been watching and enjoying Ghosts US and am waiting patiently for series four to become available here. I do hope that all these others become available too. Thanks for the heads up.

  • @RPG_Angie
    @RPG_Angie День тому +49

    After seeing your first video, me and my mom discussed what a Czech adaptation could look like. Here's what we came up with:
    PLACE: Our most haunted places are castles and we have tons of them. Many have restaurants ("zámecká restaurace") in the outer courtyards, so that would be the perfect setting.
    CZECH GHOSTS: Our most famous ghosts are the White Lady (dressed in white with a hennin - a conic white hat), the Lady in Black (most likely a widow), and the headless knight (not a horseman).
    THE POLITICIAN (1960s) = A corrupt communist politician who had a scandalous affair during the Prague Spring and then died a stupid death during the invasion of 1968. Has nothing but stupid excuses for his behavior.
    THE LADY OF THE HOUSE = THE LADY IN BLACK (1920s) = The last noble of the castle, the widowed wife of a Czech lord who lost his title and some of his lands in 1918 as our First Republic was formed. She constantly bemoans the loss of her husband, of her status, of her insane wealth, etc, sounding like a "meluzína" (wind ghost).
    THE POET (1840s) = A Jewish Romantic whose mother tongue is German but who was doing his gosh-darn best to join the Czech National Revival but who was always disappointed with his clumsy Czech poetry. Visited Czech castles while looking for inspiration, then died at one. Refuses to speak German to the White Lady because it took her too long (almost 100 years) to get over her antisemitism and start talking to him. Has romanced a few of the male and female ghosts around here.
    THE MEDIEVAL WOMAN = THE WHITE LADY (1430s) = A German noblewoman who had a famously miserable marriage with a husband who fortunately died during the Hussite Wars, but she only outlived him by a year. Has a forbidden romance with the Hussite captain who killed her husband. Trapped by her own definition of propriety.
    THE CAPTAIN (1430s) = a lowborn Hussite rebel who made it to the position of captain on merit. Was radically progressive for his time and he's been keeping up with social justice issues ever since - with a few very specific hills he's willing to die on.
    THE CAVEMAN (25 000 BCE): A mammoth hunter.
    SEMI-REGULAR: THE PAGAN (7th century) = An early Slavic settler who preys to Perun and believes in Slavic folklore creatures, especially now that she's discovered neopaganism on the internet.
    SEMI-REGULAR: THE PEASANT (mid-18th century) A Romani migrant who was accused of witchcraft but talked her way out of it, then landed a job in the castle kitchens and lived the rest of her life in relative comfort.
    SEMI-REGULAR: THE HEADLESS KNIGHT (12th century), a traveling templar knight who was murdered for his gold while spending the night. Pretends to hide all sorts of templar secrets.
    SEMI-REGULAR: THE BLACK PLAGUE GHOSTS (1350-1380)

    • @classicaljg
      @classicaljg  День тому +8

      @@RPG_Angie This is absolutely brilliant! I love it and wish I could watch it! Also I need to find some Czech ghost stories as Czech ghost folklore sounds very cool :)

    • @lisahoshowsky4251
      @lisahoshowsky4251 День тому +5

      How delightful! That’s so cool to think about and this was an amazing breakdown, thank you so much for sharing!
      I’m Canadian and I think we’d end up a little too similar to the US to really have fun trying to guess who might be included, not the mention the US actually films in Canada so even the setting would be strikingly similar😆. The biggest difference is I think is we’d probably have a voyageur -French Canadians who were in the fur trade, ooh and maybe a RCMP officer instead of Issac and their horse somehow killed them (they’re the Royal Canadian Mounted (as in horseback) Police).

    • @classicaljg
      @classicaljg  День тому +2

      @ Some of my Irish relatives emigrated to Canada and worked building railways and as early car mechanics so I would include that :)

    • @RPG_Angie
      @RPG_Angie День тому

      @@lisahoshowsky4251 Thanks!
      The fur trade sounds fascinating to me. I once ran a Pride-and-Prejudice-themed RPG game but I set it in Canada. We imagined an Austen-like society in a territory ruled by Hudson Bay Company, and Austen-like dresses (especially with the useless shoes) with the weather howling outside, and Austen-like gentlemen except they're all nouveau-riche fur traders. It was pretty challenging but I liked the contrast.

    • @RPG_Angie
      @RPG_Angie День тому +1

      @@classicaljg Aww, thanks.
      I do admit we chose some of the most interesting moments of Czech history to make the show interesting.
      As for folklore, we didn't get to enjoy our pagan culture for long because we settled in the Czech lands in the 6th century and our conversion to Christianity started in the 9th.
      Researching this (specifically pagan Bohemian Slavs) for an RPG was difficult because there's very little written record about us from those times. I kept finding very brief mentions of Slavic gods and they kept getting mixed in with what I considered folklore (belief in fairies and water creatures and domestic spirits) and superstition (doing things for good luck). But then I realized that the books were right, all three were religious practices. After all, there's little difference between leaving food at the altar of Perun, leaving food to appease the fairies that rule the forest, or leaving food for the ancestor spirit (or a gnome or a magic snake or a fire chicken) that's supposed to protect your household and bring it luck. The fairies and drowners and howlers and hags and demons-flavored-as-devils we now know from fairy tales used to be considered terrifying and awe-inspiring demigods who ruled forests and mountains and bodies of water. The natural landscape outside of the hillfort was their domain, and we were lucky to be allowed to pass through.

  • @SimplyMe514
    @SimplyMe514 День тому +46

    In Mary's dedicated flashback in the British version, the men plotting to have her accused of witchcraft initially talk about blaming her for a bad harvest, then realize that her husband conveniently died in a farming accident and they can pile that onto the list of bogus charges as well, so yes, if the local authorities believed them on that point, there's a decent possibility that she would have been burned for "treason by witchcraft", as you said, and those complaining that it's inaccurate are incorrect.

    • @classicaljg
      @classicaljg  День тому +18

      That makes total sense! And the writers of the British series used to work on Horrible Histories, so they do know their stuff

  • @benllewellyn297
    @benllewellyn297 День тому +17

    My guess is that the Vichy collaborator will be the equivalent of Nigel, the Redcoat in the American version, in a star-crossed romance with the Commondant

  • @andrewcomerford9411
    @andrewcomerford9411 День тому +16

    In the UK version, there was a medieval village on the site - which was wiped out by the plague. Somebody cleared the site to build Button House.
    The Khaki would suggest he is French (he looks like he's carrying a Kepi - a distinctly French type of headgear) it's certainly not WWI (a distinctive blue) or German (blue/grey), so WW2 - or slightly after - French is a distinct possibility.

  • @Damonicus1
    @Damonicus1 День тому +12

    Not sure if you have seen this, but here is a small part of the plot for the Australian version, scheduled to air on Channel 10, as well as Paramount+ in 2025;
    "New lovebirds Kate and Sean are about to jump into the hellscape that is the inner-city rental market, until Kate inherits a huge mansion in the country. Moving in together for the first time the young couple are attempting domestic bliss, but unbeknown to them, the house is haunted by a collection of needy spirits who carked it in Ramshead Manor over the past 200 years.
    Optimistic go-getter Kate wants to revamp the manor into a boutique hotel, but loveable city boy Sean isn’t so sure, he isn’t built for country living. When a near-death experience gives Kate the power to see the ghosts, all their lives (and afterlives) will change forever.
    As Kate and Sean navigate the milestones of a new relationship, building a business and dealing with the emotional needs of six neurotic ghosts, will their relationship survive or end up as dead as their new housemates?"
    It's slated to be an 8 episode series.

    • @Michelle-s4z
      @Michelle-s4z 10 годин тому +1

      I'm just hearing about it in this video and very much looking forward to it. I'm in Sydney.

  • @lisahoshowsky4251
    @lisahoshowsky4251 День тому +15

    If the photo is real I kind of wonder if the lady is using her fan to hide her neck intentionally? They might not do the headless ghost exactly the same way as the UK version, and I know it’d potentially odd for her to be beheaded at her own property, but I can’t help but wonder! I hope they do a dubbed or subbed version of this one since my French is paltry at best but I’d love to catch another version.

  • @Seal0626
    @Seal0626 День тому +19

    Given the way the various remakes like to shuffle the ghosts' traits around, they could totally have the lady of the manor being the one who's trying to find her head all the time.

  • @rosariocastro6386
    @rosariocastro6386 День тому +18

    I don't know if you would care, but there was this TV show from Spain a few years ago, that may be right up your alley (and that I, at one time saw on Netflix). It's called The Ministry of Time or The Time Ministry, and It's about a secret ministry that in the show exists since the times of queen Isabel I. This ministry operates on a site that has an unknown amount of doors, all connecting to different periods of Spanish history (all of spanish history, there is even doors that lead to former Spanish colonies, but only from conquest to independence), and their job is to protect historical events. It is kind of awesome, because the "agents" and different workers of the ministry are from different time periods, e.g. their forensic artist is the painter Diego Velazquez. It had a portuguese adaptation that aired in 2017 and I knew there were other adaptations in the works, but I'm unsure if those ever came to be.

    • @PoppyCorn144
      @PoppyCorn144 День тому +1

      I’d love to watch a show like that based in the UK, (I don’t know enough about Spanish history for me to resonate with it) and given our prolific history of colonialism, doors would open into every continent.
      Edit: I checked and it’s not on Netflix UK - the premise was interesting enough for me to take a peek, even if I wouldn’t understand the geopolitical context of the stories.

    • @rosariocastro6386
      @rosariocastro6386 День тому +3

      @PoppyCorn144 I'm not Spanish and I've never lived there, but I wasn't particularly lost watching it. But I would've loved to see several adaptations from other countries and other countries histories. I think you can actually found full episodes of the spanish and portuguese adaptations in youtube, without subtitles unfortunately. It used to be in spanish and latinamerican netflix but not anymore last time I checked. It really is a great show, that really could've been adapted easily in other countries.

    • @classicaljg
      @classicaljg  День тому

      That sounds like a lot of fun! :)

    • @alisonbailey-c8u
      @alisonbailey-c8u День тому +2

      It was a good show. Like a Spanish version of Dr Who, each week there were adventures in a different part of history.

    • @Michelle-s4z
      @Michelle-s4z 10 годин тому

      An excellent premise for an historical comedy sitcom.

  • @OnlyWaterInTheForest
    @OnlyWaterInTheForest День тому +3

    I'm so excited for all the new versions of Ghosts!

  • @Hellfreezer
    @Hellfreezer День тому +17

    If Sass is a possible counterpart to Thomas we could probably consider Crash too. As Thomas writes bad poetry obsessing over a woman and Crash writes bad songs obsessing over a woman.

    • @DavidHowells-d9p
      @DavidHowells-d9p День тому

      Thomas resents Byron and Nigel resents Hamilton.

  • @andreaf.6572
    @andreaf.6572 День тому +12

    There was a show here in the US called Hogan’s Heroes. It came out in the 1960’s. It took place in a WW2 German pow camp. Hogan was a pow in charge of other pow prisoners - most were US prisoners. There was at least 1 French and 1 English pow. They were always making the German soldiers look foolish!! The actor who played the French pow, Robert Clary, was actually French and a survivor of German concentration camps. If I remember correctly , he was in Auschwitz.

    • @classicaljg
      @classicaljg  День тому +5

      @@andreaf.6572 I’ve seen repeats or references to the show once or twice but don’t know much about it, that’s really interesting

    • @ridethewave-k1l
      @ridethewave-k1l День тому +2

      He was also the last surviving cast member he died about two years ago❤

    • @brasschick4214
      @brasschick4214 День тому +3

      Three of the regular ‘German’ cast members were German-Austrian Jews and another semi-regular was a Jewish American.
      Werner Klemperer who played Colonel Klink said that it was critical to him that his character would never win, if he did he would leave the show.

    • @nysunflower9439
      @nysunflower9439 18 годин тому

      All the German officers including Klink and Schultz were also Jewish concentration survivors

    • @Michelle-s4z
      @Michelle-s4z 10 годин тому

      I watched Hogan's Heroes as a child in Australia. It was fun. It's even more fun finding out most of its German soldiers were played by Jews.

  • @MrGrimlock2099
    @MrGrimlock2099 День тому +3

    I love your Ghosts videos! I love history and seeing the variations between the shows are so much fun. I am definitely going to watch some of your other videos

  • @byronsbrain
    @byronsbrain День тому +14

    Fantastic! I really hope I get to see the French and German versions

    • @carlbirtles4518
      @carlbirtles4518 День тому

      Germany was smart to leave out WW2 because of the atrocities.

    • @davidweiser1127
      @davidweiser1127 День тому +2

      Now I am going to have learn both French and German so I can watch...

    • @byronsbrain
      @byronsbrain День тому

      @@davidweiser1127 Same here!

  • @catherinesikora8397
    @catherinesikora8397 13 годин тому

    Hooray for these Ghost videos They lead me to your channel and now I will watch more videos! Well done! Love them!

    • @classicaljg
      @classicaljg  9 годин тому

      @@catherinesikora8397 thank you!

  • @Rubyshiny344
    @Rubyshiny344 День тому +12

    There’s also a Greek version coming too.

  • @onbedoeldekut1515
    @onbedoeldekut1515 11 годин тому +1

    I expect the 'lady' will be their version of Humphrey, and the fan she's holding is hiding the line from where the guillotine bisected her vertebrae.
    Maybe they'll amalgamate both characters (Humphrey and Hettie) and save money.

  • @SuzanneBlanchard
    @SuzanneBlanchard День тому +6

    No worries, the Hudson Valley is practically in New England! Right on the edge. Northern Ulster County is very close to the Connecticut boundary. Large swaths of upstate NY were part of very large counties. So just north of the manor was originally part of Albany County, which extended ambiguously toward New France, which in those days extended south of Lake George and through the southern Adirondacks, as well as through what is now Vermont and New Hampshire, both now part of New England. And NYS claimed what is now Vermont, which is now New England. And, though it is set on the mid Hudson, it is actually filmed in the countryside near Montreal, which is close to the NY/VT border!

  • @UnionYes1021
    @UnionYes1021 День тому +1

    Thank you for covering this important topic. Seriously, I absolutely love that you enjoy this silly show as much as I do! It is especially welcome that you are able to share your specialized knowledge of ghost stories in different countries and thereby analyze the show writers choice in this cultural light. You have given me the joy of an even deeper understanding of this show. You have my gratitude. -An American viewer

  • @paulflux5892
    @paulflux5892 День тому +8

    The uniform looks to be WW2 era French army. But note that this doesn't rule out being the collaborator, because the Vichy authorities wore French uniforms not German. Look at archive photos of Marshall Pétain.

    • @paulflux5892
      @paulflux5892 День тому +4

      That said, the rank insignia on his arm does seem to indicate that this is the commandant, equivalent to a major in the British army.

  • @citrus8944
    @citrus8944 День тому

    LOVED this, this is my first introduction to your content and it was so interesting just loved it

  • @sasjhwa
    @sasjhwa День тому +2

    'ello 'ello is one of my all time favorite sitcoms!

  • @sxgaston
    @sxgaston День тому +1

    Thank you for these. I absolutely love listening to your scholarly information on one of my favorite shows. I've watched all of your videos on Ghosts. They are fabulous and very entertaining. I'm looking forward to all of these adaptations. Particularly the Australian one. I've seen a good number of Australian shows and movies and really dig the sense of humor. I self taught myself French for a few years so I'm very interested in the French version. Although I'm kind of disappointed the German and French versions don't look like they changed much. I liked the differences between the American and British versions and was interested to see what other countries would do with their history. That being said we haven't seen these of course so I'll keep my mind open. Oooo this turned out longer than I intended. I just wanted to say thank you for the videos. I really enjoyed them.

  • @patbone7941
    @patbone7941 21 годину тому

    The scout leader in the french photo is the actor Bruno Sanches, he played a detective in the excellent French police series HPI. He has great comedy timing. Also IMDb has the french cast already on their site.

  • @fluorescentpink573
    @fluorescentpink573 День тому +2

    hey! great video, i've been waiting for this one :)
    i'm really interested to see the dynamic between the soldier and the collaborator! i really like the idea of having two main cast ghosts from the same time period and who (i assume) knew each other, i think it'll make for some great plots and character development. also very interested to see how the revolution plays into the noblewoman's backstory, i think it'll be a great plot point too. also very much looking forward to announcements from the aussie version! i think (more than any other version so far) they have the best opportunity to innovate beyond the original ghost "templates".
    also OH MY GOD i got such a nostalgia trip hearing about allo allo!!! i loved that show, i watched it as a kid and i'm not ashamed to admit that it was my very first exposure to WW2

    • @classicaljg
      @classicaljg  День тому

      @@fluorescentpink573 I’m not sure if I saw Allo Allo or Dad’s Army (repeats) first but one or the other was probably my first introduction to WW2! Though I did also grow up watching the old black and white war films - Dambusters and Reach for the Sky and so on :)

  • @ihopeicanchangethisnamelat7108
    @ihopeicanchangethisnamelat7108 День тому +1

    this was good timing, i watched the video on the other adaptations about a month or two ago, forgot about the show completely, then randomly read a fanfic of a different fandom that used bbc ghosts as an au, which made me want to draw art of it, which made me look up when the ghosts from the original one died, which led me to this, right after it was posted

  • @williammckinney4090
    @williammckinney4090 День тому +4

    I'm disappointed we aren't getting any representation from the Belle Epoque. Or a Josephine Baker like character. Only 2 female ghosts?

  • @shannonwest7560
    @shannonwest7560 День тому +3

    I recently read an article pointing out a plot hole in boththe UK and US versions. Why can't the ghosts that predate the manors, Sassapis, Thorfinn, and Robin, leave the property? There were no property boundaries when they died. Shouldn't they be able to go anywhere they could go at the time of their deaths?

    • @vespista1971
      @vespista1971 День тому +1

      I’ve thought the same thing. It’s definitely a bit of a plot hole. You could explain it as being more of a geographical area perimeter than a modern property line perimeter, but then wouldn’t the perimeters be at least slightly different for each of the ghosts that died somewhere outdoors? Come to think of it… that might be an interesting way they could get Thorfinn closer to his son on the neighbor’s property. Maybe one, or both, of them ends up having a different limiting perimeter than the others who died in the house, that allows them to eventually discover they can meet each other more personally and not just yell across a wide open area.

  • @jasonflay8818
    @jasonflay8818 День тому +5

    From my understanding it is the property where they died not the place. If there was a midieval village in the property then it would make sense the plague ghosts would be there. Lady Button died outside the house (below the window). Think of the Gardner neighborhood in the hedge, he moves about the property

    • @classicaljg
      @classicaljg  День тому +2

      @@jasonflay8818 I’ve often wondered how it works as several ghosts died before the property borders were in place! They find the plague pit in the basement in S1 of the British show, but perhaps it’s meant to be on the site of the village if nearly the whole village died.

    • @jasonflay8818
      @jasonflay8818 День тому +1

      @classicaljg ultimately it is just a show which is only beholden to the rules of the world they create. There is one thing I noticed that no one in the show alludes to and don't know if that was a plot point the writers did not have a chance to explore which could define boundaries/ reasons for ghosts remaining as not all who die on the property remain (ie Humphrey's wife's attendant). In the episode showing Robin's death in the background there is what appears to be a megalith. Robin stated he had walked to what is now Britain putting his death at around 10,000BP. Megaliths were not constructed until around about 5,200 BP. Who built that and what is it?

    • @classicaljg
      @classicaljg  День тому +1

      @ My brain is concocting some weird crossover fanfiction between Ghosts and Outlander now! :)

    • @jasonflay8818
      @jasonflay8818 День тому

      @classicaljg Ohhh. I'll mention this to my wife. I'm sure there's a writers group out there where that's a reality!! 😆

  • @allistair61
    @allistair61 День тому +1

    I remember watching ello ello when I was younger as well, I do remember hearing rumours that the part of the BBC that sold TV shows abroad did have a sit down meeting with German TV channels back either when the show was in production or shortly after it finished filming. From what I heard the German executives did enjoy what they saw, understandably it couldn't be air in Germany because of the wartime representatives of Nazism

  • @TheGabygael
    @TheGabygael День тому +2

    What I'm afraid of is that french media tend to be way more loose with historical accuracy than British media so we might just be served the same stereotypes over and over again

  • @TheGabygael
    @TheGabygael День тому +2

    I really hope it's not set in Brittany though, the region has a very distinct history which very little of the show seems to reflect, the choice the make Asterix breton was to link the Gaulish character with general celtic culture as well as parallel between the advances of the Roman Empire and the rise of monolithic"french" culture across metropolitan France

  • @p.taylor981
    @p.taylor981 День тому +3

    I'm going to be honest seeing every cast shot look more or less identical to the UK original is really sad. Like this is a really interesting premise for a show when it comes to regional variations and seems like the majority of the time they take next to no liberties with the concept. At the very least the US version does its own thing most of the time.

    • @WyattRyeSway
      @WyattRyeSway День тому

      I think the American version did very well with it.

  • @davidweiser1127
    @davidweiser1127 День тому +6

    The French version could be to similar to US characters like Isaac and Nigel the British soldier. WWII Captain and the French WWII collaborator.

  • @mistycrom
    @mistycrom 22 години тому

    2 ways the US version could've had a WW2 ghost: if they'd made Crash a bit older, it could have turned out that he was a mechanic in WW2 - which, if my reading is correct, is kind of how the whole hot-rodding thing came about; kids who had all this new mechanical training from the war, getting bored and realising they could modify their cars engines and make them faster - would've made a lot of sense... or, have someone sent home after being injured, and maybe having died in a particularly stupid accident, maybe always saying it had been his injuries.
    Also, also looking forward to Roman ghosts and Gaul ghosts in the German/French versions.

  • @RandosLocal252
    @RandosLocal252 День тому +1

    French military uniforms for officers didn't change that much after WWII until the mid 1960s so it's possible the analogue for the Captain might not be strictly from WWII but possibly later, i.e. French military intervention in Algeria and elsewhere. (In the BBC version Lt. Havers leaves the Captain to go to North Africa, so maybe this Captain also stayed behind or his association was, in some way, Foreign Legion).

  • @AutoReport1
    @AutoReport1 День тому +1

    Don't forget the bourbon monarchy was restored for a time, 1814-1848 (with a brief 100 day interregnum when Napoleon was restored), and many French aristocrats returned and maintain their traditional, though unofficial titles. Titles were only abolished with the third republic in 1870, but can be kept as part of a name by application. There are supposedly more French nobility today than at the time of the revolution and many retained their wealth and property (although there is an association to help those who can't afford it to "keep up appearances" at public events).

  • @IngriddenDigre
    @IngriddenDigre День тому

    I will look forward to seeing all of these. I believe they could be a great way to show a countrys history and culture. Both historical culture and present. But it will need subtitles. Hope it's something each tv-channel producing the show will prioritize.

  • @TheGabygael
    @TheGabygael День тому +2

    Ooooh I'm a French speaking Belgian hooked on ghosts I can't wait (I really hope they won't fuck it up)

  • @KernowWarrior
    @KernowWarrior День тому

    I always assumed the plague victims village was on the site of the house. The pit was in the village. The other ghosts have a certain amount of distance they can move from their place of death. So it makes sense that they could have died in their own homes and still be within distance of the pit. Although your theory does add a nice dark layer to the show.

  • @CAP198462
    @CAP198462 День тому +1

    This sounds like a fantastic series based on the speculation going on here. It’s just my opinion but I think southern France ticks all the plausibility boxes.
    The nail in the proverbial in my opinion is the medieval peasant. Southern France in the medieval period was host to the Cathar heresy, she could be one of them. Let’s just say 1350 was a very bad year for them. The Vichy collaborator and the Free French officer also have good historical reasons to be in the region at the same time.
    The region or part of it in Roman times had a rather famous governor.

  • @palalabu
    @palalabu День тому +1

    i'm from indonesia, and asterix was also popular with kids growing up in the 90s (and older). idk if it's still the case nowadays. excited to see the other versions of ghosts. i hope they'll be as good as the UK one, because I'm not a fan of the US one lol

  • @AutoReport1
    @AutoReport1 День тому +1

    The English captain died just after the war when he gatecrashed a reunion of veterans when it seems he was more or less only home guard.

  • @TheGabygael
    @TheGabygael День тому +1

    Alison is a much more common traditionally female name in France than Sam (Samantha sounds more dated to us) and we pronounce it Alisonne

  • @rosariocastro6386
    @rosariocastro6386 День тому +1

    I'm guessing that the colaborator may be their version of Nigel from the US version. I think that if I could, I would watch every version of this show to see the various ghosts of different times and places.

  • @TheGabygael
    @TheGabygael День тому +2

    Fashion history enthousiast here (the costumes look like shit to me compared to the other shows btw, also why did they put the countess in a wig T.T)
    From the suit of the poet, they might have made him vaguely Regency and have put him in ye olde clothes but I think it's more likely he's a decade or two later drawing more in the Victor Hugo types of figures we learned about in school than from the premier empire (we don't have the Shelley couple nor Lord Byron so the first empire is more associated with political events than cultural ones to the biggest part of the population)

  • @mattthesilent777RED
    @mattthesilent777RED День тому +1

    I already came up with my version for the French version of Ghosts

  • @billb207
    @billb207 День тому

    Ghosts is such a versatile concept -- there is so much scope for foreign adaptations to create characters that match their own national history, cultural stereotypes, self-deprecating humour, and so on.

  • @g.g.2660
    @g.g.2660 День тому +3

    Hello Juliette and thank you for your video, which will certainly be of interest to Ghosts fans all over the world. I'm a Frenchwoman and I can offer you a few additions and corrections.
    Several articles have appeared in the French online press (Diverto, TV mag), confirming that your photo is truly from the shooting of the series. Other photos exist with the same actors and costumes. One of the articles also confirms that Georges Peyrache does come from WW2 (definitely not a blue WW1 uniform). Yes, the name is French, Georges can't be German! No mention of which part of France the series is set in. The shooting takes place in the château de Vaugien, near Paris.
    Your pronunciation of French is generally good, but you made a few understandable mistakes with proper nouns. “Alison” is not pronounced in the French way (it doesn't rhyme with “salon"), because the French are generally very bad at English, but we know that it's an English name to begin with! Natacha Lindinger is of Austrian origin, but I've always heard her name pronounced in the French way (Lindingé, not Linn-dinn-guerre). The same goes for François Vincentelli, not pronounced in the Italian way, usually. Bruno Sanches, on the other hand, has Portuguese origins, if I remember correctly, and is pronounced Sanchess. The word scout is pronounced ‘scoot’ in French.
    The collaborator François Laval is undoubtedly a nod to the real-life collaborator Pierre Laval. If you ask any French person to name two famous collaborators, they'll probably mention Pétain and Laval. The interactions between the soldier and the “collabo” promise to be interesting!
    If I can be of any help for a future video about the French version, don't hesitate to ask me!

    • @HJJSL-bl8kk
      @HJJSL-bl8kk День тому

      I once knew an elderly Bretonne who flicked her front teeth with her thumbnail whenever Petain was mentioned. If she was outdoors she spat on the ground. She had lived through two world wars and wasn't keen on les boches but kept her worst ire for collaborators.

  • @kevreid82
    @kevreid82 День тому +4

    Isaac has more in common with thomas. Wanted to be important but no one remembered him, and he hates someone who was more successful and famous. Byron for Thomas and Hamilton for isaac.

  • @patbone7941
    @patbone7941 16 годин тому

    Amazing if they could get Gérard Jugnot (star of french film SCOUT TOUJOURS) To guest star as Bruno Sanches father, visiting where his son died.

  • @Iwasabolished
    @Iwasabolished День тому

    6:21 my guess is the parallel of Robin/Thor since they have electrical powers and it will be a chandler

  • @Iwasabolished
    @Iwasabolished День тому

    5:46 Most of our castles are more Northern England and actualy cross into Scotland or are very close to the boarded like Lindisfarne Castle in Northumberland.

    • @classicaljg
      @classicaljg  День тому

      Having grown up in Suffolk and Kent, I can say confidently that both have plenty of castles, as does the Midlands where I live now.

  • @Iwasabolished
    @Iwasabolished День тому

    1:48 I would say that Thomas is more alike to Isaac in personality just because of the fact that they're both quite eccentric and do that speech thing when someone dies in the house. They're both obsessed with finding love, and I wouldn't say Sassapis is that lovelorn. The only thing he has in common with Thomas is a similar-ish job from completely different eras.

    • @Iwasabolished
      @Iwasabolished День тому

      Correction, I think Thomas' character has probably been split between Trevor, Isaac, and possibly Sass. When I watched , I saw Sass as an original character, though.

  • @kiltedjohn1000
    @kiltedjohn1000 День тому +1

    We should have Reg Shoe as head of the basement ghosts

  • @brionl4741
    @brionl4741 День тому +2

    Well, NY State, Particularly the Hudson Valley is right next door to the New England region. It's an easy mistake to make.

  • @Iwasabolished
    @Iwasabolished День тому

    2:35 I think an aspect of Thorfinn not speaking great English is intentional on his part which adds to the humour as they mention multiple times why does he say "land-ship" instead of car?

  • @AtomicAus
    @AtomicAus День тому

    The first book from the BBC series calls Pat's group the Boys Adventure Club.

  • @guaposneeze
    @guaposneeze День тому

    Commandant + Collaborator sounds like they could be setting up something like Issac and his British soldier paramour who were enemies in life.

  • @Thisepus
    @Thisepus День тому +2

    Would be funny if the Countess was the headless one

  • @oakstrong1
    @oakstrong1 19 годин тому

    I've only seen short video clips of the American version. Which country had the original Ghosts? Are the other versions part of the same franchise?

    • @classicaljg
      @classicaljg  18 годин тому

      @@oakstrong1 The British version is the original, and the writers/actors from the British version are producers of the American one, plus one of them did a guest appearance on it

  • @LookandReport
    @LookandReport День тому +2

    UA-cam recommend me your previous video 2 hours ago
    how did they know ?

    • @classicaljg
      @classicaljg  День тому +1

      @@LookandReport That was good timing! :)

  • @moreau1755
    @moreau1755 День тому

    Ah, Allo Allo. Itself a parody of previous serious drama The Secret Army from the 1970s, which was about the Belgian (rather than French) resistance. Herr Flick from Allo Allo is a pastiche of the much more malevolent Kessler in Secret Army, a bad guy who went on to have his own sequel series, titled appropriately enough "Kessler."
    Herr Flick, answering his phone: "Flick the Gestapo." Pause. "No, I said Flick,.. the Gestapo."

    • @classicaljg
      @classicaljg  20 годин тому

      My mum loves Secret Army :)

  • @danielmalinen6337
    @danielmalinen6337 День тому

    First the UK, then the US, then Germany, then Australia and now France. How many country versions of the series will eventually be made?

    • @WyattRyeSway
      @WyattRyeSway День тому

      No idea. UK (well obviously), USA, Germany, France, Spain, Australia at the very least.

  • @patbone7941
    @patbone7941 21 годину тому

    Will these country specific version's have the actor's play multiple parts (like the UK🇬🇧 ) in the episodes. I would have liked to have seen the American actor's playing multiple part's.

    • @classicaljg
      @classicaljg  20 годин тому

      I don’t know but that would be cool :)

  • @podgem-l4t
    @podgem-l4t День тому +1

    I wonder will there be a shed with German ghosts?

  • @staceytrim
    @staceytrim День тому

    I use to watch Allo 'Allo! Too lol. Haven't seen it in years.

  • @NoThankUBeQuiet
    @NoThankUBeQuiet День тому

    Uh the Midwest has some zones that are in Eastern time but it's MOSTLY in Central time. Maybe some even in mountian time im not sure

    • @classicaljg
      @classicaljg  День тому

      My husband is from Michigan, which is nearly all EST

  • @CommentGirl12
    @CommentGirl12 День тому +1

    The American version probably didn't go for the mass burial angle because there's a racist trope of houses being built on an "Indian burial ground". Probably wanted to avoid that, just like the questionable optics of having Sass speak in broken English.

    • @classicaljg
      @classicaljg  День тому

      Good point, it wouldn’t come across well in the States

  • @obugger
    @obugger День тому +1

    There is no reason that the US version couldn't have a WW2 military ghost, not all military deaths are as a result of enemy action, a US serviceman could have died of a heart attack just as the British equivalent did.

  • @TheMoviePlanet
    @TheMoviePlanet День тому +2

    FYI the channel is T-F-One, not T-F-I.

    • @classicaljg
      @classicaljg  День тому

      @@TheMoviePlanet Ah I misread the website - thank you, I thought I didn’t remember a French channel called TFI!

    • @TheMoviePlanet
      @TheMoviePlanet День тому +1

      @@classicaljgYou're welcome! And the reason it's a co-production between TF1 and Disney+ is pretty simple: France has very strict regulations about how long after a film came out in cinemas it can come respectively to VOD, physical media, premium TV, regular TV and finally streaming services. And for streaming services it is 44 months aka almost 4 years after a film's cinema release *except* if the streaming service invests considerably in French film & TV productions, then this is brought down to 15-17 months or under a year and a half. So that is why a ton of French films and TV shows now have the likes of Netflix and Disney+ listed among the production companies.

  • @chrism7395
    @chrism7395 День тому

    I wonder if the commandant will be a Free French army officer whilst the collaborator was someone who stayed in France?

  • @DakotaCelt1
    @DakotaCelt1 День тому

    I remember Allo, Allo well... I loved it

  • @ladyflimflam
    @ladyflimflam 53 хвилини тому

    The midwest is not in the same time zone as the east coast. Ohio is in the eastern time zone and some of them think they are in the midwest, but they are wrong.

    • @classicaljg
      @classicaljg  51 хвилина тому

      My husband is from Michigan, which is nearly all EST

  • @fatigue_ling
    @fatigue_ling День тому

    I'm Californian and had no idea New York wasn't in New England either 😆

  • @SirWussiePants
    @SirWussiePants День тому +1

    Dont worry. Here in Central New York we identify with New England - more than we do New York City.

  • @jenniferhanses
    @jenniferhanses 23 години тому

    That's alright on New York being "in New England." Americans make the same mistake. The only reason it's not "in New England" is that it and New Jersey were first settled by the Dutch. If they'd been settled by the English first, they would have totally been part of New England. It's a cultural as well as a regional designation. And you're not from here and didn't have any particular reason to learn American history in depth.
    I'm most excited about the lady of the house in the French version. To me, it makes sense that she probably is the one missing her head. The time period is too perfect for that not to be the case. I would suspect that she got executed in the courtyard of her own chateau. I *think* things like that did happen as the peasants got upset. And Humphrey does wear his head some of the time, so the fact that she's in one piece in the group photo is no evidence. I believe chokers were also popular at the time, providing a way to hide the neck.

  • @sasjhwa
    @sasjhwa День тому

    If ghosts are tied to the property why are the ancient ghosts tied to the modern borders? Thorfin can't go next door to see his son even though both died before there were property lines. Since they didn't know about one another they couldn't have interacted even before the properties were built.

  • @AlisonTate77
    @AlisonTate77 День тому

    The uniform is french because German uniforms were field grey in WWI and WWII.

  • @charlieunderwood1311
    @charlieunderwood1311 День тому

    I wonder if La Comtesse has a detachable head

  • @stufour
    @stufour 21 годину тому

    Fab :). It’s TF1 not TFi by the way :)

  • @egreen316
    @egreen316 День тому

    You didn’t mention the name Alberta once in this video 🫤

    • @classicaljg
      @classicaljg  День тому

      So far it's not clear whether the French show will have a ghost who has anything in common with Alberta - none of them are from the 1920s and none of them are singers, unless the character of Alison's childhood idol will be a ghost. We'll have to see when the show comes out if there is a ghost connected to her - but the French show seems to be taking inspiration mainly from the British version, where she has no direct parallel

  • @TheCharmanderMaster
    @TheCharmanderMaster День тому +1

    I hope every version has a few of their own unique ghosts, it would be less fun if they just copy the British version

  • @TheGabygael
    @TheGabygael День тому +1

    French humor *thrives* in sensitive topics, taboo ideas and dark humor

  • @WyattRyeSway
    @WyattRyeSway День тому

    Midwest and east coast are not in the same time zone. Just FYI. Most of the Midwest is on central time. Midwest is kind of the center of the U.S.
    Yes, France is getting a version of Ghosts and I think so is Spain.
    Thorfinn is from about 1,000 years ago. He was there centuries before Sassapis died. That comes out in one episode.
    Vichy or Nazi…..well, that doesn’t sound funny at all, either way.

    • @classicaljg
      @classicaljg  День тому

      My husband is from Michigan, which is Midwest, and nearly all of it is Eastern Standard Time

  • @onbedoeldekut1515
    @onbedoeldekut1515 11 годин тому

    If they all died in Button House, what about Mary?
    I thought she was burned at the stake.

    • @classicaljg
      @classicaljg  9 годин тому

      @@onbedoeldekut1515 I think she was burned in the grounds of the house for some reason - I’ll have to go rewatch the episode that covers her death!

  • @francescaderimini2931
    @francescaderimini2931 20 годин тому

    Australian Ghosts would have Burke and Wills together 😂 Look it up.

  • @JamieHaDov
    @JamieHaDov День тому +1

    I hope the image isn’t correct- the costumes and wigs are…not great

    • @PhIcicle
      @PhIcicle День тому

      There's more images, I saw a few on Tumblr
      Maybe the lighting was a bit off

  • @paulflux5892
    @paulflux5892 День тому +3

    You would probably have gone for a member of the French resistance... but you will only say that once! 😉

  • @shinoame
    @shinoame День тому

    It sounds really interesting! I wish there was a Mexican version, aa well as othr Latin American countries

  • @stefanjakubowski8222
    @stefanjakubowski8222 День тому

    Interesting

  • @daniellemarcantel2487
    @daniellemarcantel2487 День тому

    Has anyone ever told you that you look like Rose Mciver?

    • @classicaljg
      @classicaljg  День тому +1

      @@daniellemarcantel2487 No, but thank you! I wish I had her hair…

  • @chartle1
    @chartle1 День тому

    So none of the new shows have a, ok lets just call it what it was, a mass grave.

    • @classicaljg
      @classicaljg  День тому +1

      @@chartle1 They might, the basement ghosts aren’t usually listed as regulars. A mass grave of some kind could be included in France or Germany, and possibly in Australia though I’m not so sure about that one.

  • @suecooper
    @suecooper День тому +1

    Sa saps sis

  • @eddiehagler6127
    @eddiehagler6127 День тому

    Those of us in Oklahoma and much of the rest of the country do refer to NY as part of New England since it was part of the original English colonies

    • @ddawn23
      @ddawn23 День тому

      Huh? I’m an Okie too, and we were definitely taught that New England comprises of the six states to the east of New York

    • @dominaevillae28
      @dominaevillae28 День тому

      @eddiehagler6127
      I’m from New York and we know we’re not a part of New England (which is: Connecticut, Maine, Massachusetts, New Hampshire, Rhode Island, and Vermont).

    • @WyattRyeSway
      @WyattRyeSway День тому

      I’m in Texas and we refer to upstate NY as New England