Does Roman Reigns vs The Rock Need a Title?
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This topic caught my eye yesterday. I realized I could make a video out of it. Regardless of what they do, I'll be excited to see The Rock complete the Tribal Chief storyline. I just wish it didn't have anything to do with the title. What do you think?
Yeah I prefer this feud without the title as well. After all, people liked The Rock and John Cena feud without the title. Plus, these two are related and since The Bloodline storyline has to do with their bloodline, people will be interested in this feud because this has to do with family and who is the true Tribal Chief of this family.
The problem is Reigns can’t lose before Mania he needs to be undefeated going into the Rock match. Also it would over shadow the title matches which doesn’t help
They could have Roman vs rock on 1 night and the title match on another
I think it would be perfectly fine for the position of head of the household was on line, and Roman losing could lead to a really interesting personal introspection story line for him.
No title, this is more than that
Adding a stipulation makes it predictable on who's winning. An example of this was Cena vs Reigns at Summerslam, that match could have gone either way until Roman said he'd quit if he didn't leave as champ.
It really couldn't have gone either way. No one thought Cena was winning
If The Rock loses, he must retire
Roman is winning this match regardless. They are pushing him to the moon. They did have him go what will be three years without losing to get beat by the rock
@@AMMB he's already retired
This is definitely one of the most hyped up matches ever in recent memory. Who knows if it’ll happen or not, but if it does, I think it doesn’t need a title. Their family history alone tells a fantastic story, and those kinds of stories are way better in my opinion.
I think tile would add more if and if rock would stay for more then 1 match
It don't need the title but I tell you it would add to it.
I think that it could work like this..
Roman and Rocks feud get so heated that they would start unloading punches on each other whenever they even see one another. Rock says that he wants a match with the Tribal Chief Roman Reigns, Roman Reigns just tells Rock that he doesn’t deserve a shot at his universal title because he thinks that Rock is just a sellout in Hollywood. Rock then says “did you ever hear The Rock say that he wanted to challenge you for that dumba*** title? NO, because The Rock only wants to kick your jabroni a*** at the greatest stage of all, WRESTLEMANIAAA, and nothing more! And I’ll be the one to end your reign, so know your role and SHUT YOUR MOUTH”. Meanwhile Cody Rhodes also has a match with Roman Reigns, but it’s for the title on night two, and rocks match will be on night one. The reason why it’s like that is so that we could build the ultimate baby face (even if rock vs Roman is a bigger match)
Hyped up by who?? I never met or ran into anyone ever wearing a Roman Reigns shirt. Roman mania isn't running wild he's a manufactured forced goat
@@themadrapper101 maybe it's because those people just happen to not be wearing Roman t shirts?He's is a big merch seller boy.
This match is bigger than the title, and if it were on the line, it would be super obvious that Rock just came to swing by & do the honors.
A title actively makes this match worse.
Title, Roman wins: Predictable
Title, Rock wins: Unpredictable, but also nonsensical as this is a 50-year old man who hasn't wrestled in over half a decade beating their supposed "god mode" face of the company and to make matters worse, if you think Roman is awful as a champion because of his shitty part time schedule, wait until you see Rock's championship run.
The only way adding a title works is if: Rock, who only intends to stick around for a month or two, wins via interference, and leads to a storyline involving greater conflicts within their family. They fight again this time with the Bloodline and whatever is on Rock's side battling out in the ring with Roman and Rock as the main attraction before Roman ultimately wins. But that's really just stretching something out that doesn't have much reason to be stretched, which can be solved by just having Roman win the first go.
the storyline itself would be bigger than any title that's on the line during the match especially if there's anything to do with family & how personal it can get depending on the booking of course
Man idk I feel like it would be tough telling a story like that with the rock, he only shows up a certain amount of times. I do agree with you it would be an interesting story.
It doesn't need the title it's a story behind it without the title Hopefully if this Match happens it doesn't need the title and it's going to be in Hollywood Hopefully the Rock returns as Hollywood Rock one last time.
Short answer: HELL NO
John Cena vs The Rock 1 was so good and it didn't need to be a title match to be an all time great match at all.
Hear me out, I think Roman losing the title would be a great way to kickstart the feud. Here's the situation:
Within now and Mania, Roman is dethroned as champ which not only hurts the family's venue, but also frees the titles for more matches on the card. The Bloodline are desperately trying to get their spots back but are defeated in every endeavor: Rumble, Chamber, TLC, etc.
With Mania around the corner, it's looking like Reigns won't be getting the big payday he does every year because he doesn't have a match. Throughout this drought, his opponents will take digs at him not being the head of the table, claiming that the position now belongs to The Rock. Every time someone brings him up however, Roman goes ballistic and destroys them.
These attacks will become more gruesome as Mania grows closer. With the show around the corner, Roman does a standard Tribal Chief promo and is interrupted by The Rock. Fans are cheering, commentary is freaking out, classic Rock return. Rock doesn't come out burying Roman but extends a helping hand, offering to take care of the family until Roman can get back to his spot as the top guy. Roman, however, can't take Rock's condescending tone, and puts him on blast about not being in the ring for a while. Rock throws out the claim that if he were in WWE on a regular basis, Reigns' time as champ would have been much shorter.
The Bloodline tries to defuse the tension and all seems well as Rock again extends a hand to Roman. Roman takes it after a moment to think but immediately drills The Rock, beating him to near death. The desperation, the frustration, along with the jealousy of Rock's career and love from the fans (something Roman never truly got) sends Roman over the edge. From then on, it's a quickly escalating conflict that has the Bloodline caught in the middle.
They definitely don't need the straps to make this match money.
My man WP coming through with the content! Personally, I don't think Roman vs Rock should be for the titles, as no one expects Rock to win the titles. However, without the titles, it adds a layer of story to it, as Roman, having lost both titles, would need to win against The Rock in order to redeem himself and firmly establish himself as the Head of the Table.
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I want Roman to have at least one title, but I just say that him having the title makes the match very predictable
If it ever does,no belt of course. Neither of them should have a belt. A "real head of the table" match..
It really doesn’t need the titles. The match itself is money, the match + them fighting for the “Head of the Table” title is more than enough.
They don't really need the title. Their fued would be bigger than the belts. It can help the UV title though. But they don't need it
☝🏾 I proudly remember being at the taping when my Tribal Chief talked about Sheamus's tater tots lol! Also at the raw after wm 33 when it was his yard now. My former self and my roommate booed his ass out of the arena.
Lmaooo that random Corpus Christi dis 🤣 I’m not from there just a few hours aways but whats so wrong with Corpus? I mean they gave us Whataburger after all.
I honestly thought they would have Roman drop one or both titles before a match vs the Rock in order to have a sort of “true head of the table” match. It would be a way to keep Roman strong after losing one or both titles. Losing the titles would bring in the Rock who is questioning Roman, and may even have the bloodline leave Roman for Rock until Roman beats him down at mania, recovering his status.
The problem is if Drew didn’t take the titles away from Roman in a huge event like clash of the castle who the hell is going to take them away from here to wrestlemania. He needs to lose the titles in a big event only event it can be is the royal rumble and i highly doubt he’ll lose the titles there.
This question will effect the enjoyment of the match and predictability
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short answer: no
long answer: no
It does needs to be for the world title it's the most important and biggest match so yes name me any match bigger than rock and Roman that should be for the world title there's none
No, but the title DOES need Rock & Roman
I'm 50/50 this match could end up actually happening but then again rock is always super busy so there is a chance this match could also not happen
Any bonus video suggestions like this would be appreciated
You should make a video of how you would book the WrestleMania 39 card. Say you didn't want the title on Roman, then you could explain how you would book the two title matches if you had Roman vs. Rock and ideas like that.
You could do your top 10 favorite wwe entrance stages
Not only does Roman and Rock not need the title, but it'll actually be better off without it because then the outcome might be in doubt. If the title is involved it then becomes no question whatsoever that Roman is winning.
It’s tough to say if you add the titles to the match, I don’t think triple h would be ok with giving them to the rock so it becomes predictable, but if you don’t put the titles on the line then does the match and story itself lose substance? It does work sometimes when the story is told right remember the undertaker vs Shawn Michaels both of their matches were centered around the story alone, I think rock vs Roman could work depending on the type of story they want to tell, but it’s just that every time you bring the rock into the wwe wether he wins or loses it really doesn’t matter since he’ll be gone the next day, and you can’t really tell a proper story if the rock shows up every 3 months. I’m sure it’ll be an amazing match but it would take a lot careful planning just my opinion.
You gave the answer to your title of this video, the Rocks schedule. He could come back just for a one off, but that's it. To put the title on the line would be stupid because of the Rocks schedule, he ain't gonna hang around, WWE can't afford him.
The family history and the anticipation since 2020 means much more than a title. Dream matches like this deserve to be non title. Kinda like Cena vs Rock 1, Cena vs Reigns, Lesnar vs Goldberg etc
If it does happen it definitely doesn’t need a title at all. In fact, I think this should happen right after he loses it. He loses it, and whoever it happens to won’t give him a shot to win it back. Roman completely destroys the champ after his next title defense and Jimmy Rebels, having loss respect already due to the title loss. He absolutely dogs him and his brother and spends the next couple weeks doing the same. He goes on tirades about “getting the family in line” by dragging every single member of the Anoa’i bloodline and Rikishi is brought in to mediate and Roman absolutely murders him. Hospitalizes him. And at that point the Rock comes out, boom. Major feud that definitely doesn’t need a title, and in the meantime both titles are vacated because of the state of the champion and now both titles have their (hopefully reimagined) titles again. I dunno, something along those lines.
I bought tickets to my very first wwe event and its going to be WrestleMania I hope I see this go down
Honestly idc if this match happens or not but he seriously needs to drop the titles like yesterday
That will make the match like who is Actually The real the people’s champion if The title was on the line
I don’t even want Rock to have this boring match but if no title involved, he can at least get the W.
this dream match is way bigger then the title
for me why do they retrun the BIG GOLD BELT name it WWE world Heavy weight title belt so there is a big title will be defended in Wresilmania
Wwe barely even have heavyweights nowadays imagine bringing back the world heavyweight title just to let freaking cruiserweights to win it😂
Let the freaking title Die! Lol Wrestling should not be a Nostalgia show. Have a new title design let the big gold sleep forever for christ sake
If they do a full program where rock is there for like 2 months and they make it interesting maybe I'll be hyped but I'm not really thirsty to see this match
If the match DOES have the title, it’ll become way more predictable as to who will win
Doesn’t need a title but it’s once in a life time thing
Roman vs Kross/Drew/KO/Seth or anyone and Usos come in then suddenly Rock's music hits and he comes out and performs Rock bottom on every member of bloodline and Roman watching him shocked and gets pinned in the process. That way he will still look strong, title will be given to full timer and Rock and Roman will have much stronger story line. We all know Rock isn't gonna win if it's gonna be for title.
yeah i feel having the titles on the line would make it too predictable
This match is a cool “passing of the torch” and will probably happen, but Cody Rhodes vs Roman Reigns needs to be the main event of Wrestlemania.
Nah Cody should get that before mania plus the Rock vs Roman is the main event
Cody is cringe
It’s one of those matches where it’s big enough to not need a title but a if u wanna make more important make it for a title. Imo Book it for the universal title to add to its prestige & have roman drop the Wwe title to Seth @ Tlc in TLC match.
If he keeps them, the stipulation would have to be to vacate both of the titles and have a raw & smack down mens solo tournament running into backlash where both titles would be fought for by their respected brands(which would still be reigns on Smackdown, putting that in the main event.) big if and I hope it doesn’t run this way
Yes
Forget titles ,Make it Who is the True Tribal Chief ,make it a Family Leadership Match
It doesn't really need a title, considering Rock's first match with Cena at Wrestlemania 28 didn't need a title either. Though I wouldn't be too surprised if they fought for the title.
Absolutely does not need a title. This match could sell itself off of the hype to see it alone. Such an easy story to tell without a title.
Title, but have The Rock lose it...
Only for MitB winner to come in, take the belt from Roman, and you have an instant top made babyface!
Definitely
The fans would cause a riot if Reigns dosent defend the title, I mean right now I’m angry because he is a part time champion
It doesn't need the title. Roman Reigns wants to be acknowledge by everyone as Tribal Chief not Undisputed Champion. Also this mostly likely a one and done match which The Rock has a more realistic chance of winning if Roman Reigns was WWE Champion because the Universal Championship is arguably his title but the WWE Championship is The Rock's title.
Split the titles so Cody can win the WWE title
If this match takes place there's no need for it to be a championship match.
Crazy...Family has to fight in a place where there are plenty other folks to fight.
...and the winner is....
WWE.📈. Id still watch...🤷🏿♂️
Why would you mention Corpus Christi out of all the other cities in the US?
It does not need a title but it does need that Roman aura that comes with him not having lost in like idk years
I hope this match never happens
It doesnt need a title because at this point its like holding the titles hostage for no reason, both guys are big enough that it doesnt need it. This long ass title reign has cemented Roman as a top guy and he doesnt really need to prove himself anymore, especially since he pretty much already stated he was gonna dial back on appearances. So they should just let the title go to someone else and have a chance to rise up to that spot
Quick question. Which jericho run is better in your opinion. 2008-10 or his aew run
2008-10. The man was on top of his game then, his AEW run has some bright spots but it doesn't compare imo to 2008 Jericho.
@@wrestlingspremier 2008-10 Jericho is kind of like Kobe 2008-10 run he had after Shaq left LA and they got him help. Once Chris got that awkward late 07 behind him he literally became Kobe during that run. 3 WHC runs, a record setting 9th IC Title, Unified Tag Title run. And went into Mania 26 as champ and left as champ. Only thing he needed was that 2012 Rumble win
IMO, This match should just be who is the true Head of the Table and runs the family. They don’t need a title a match. Just who is better.
I think they should "strip" him of the raw title and do a tournament. Have a surprise entrant
This match only needs one title (universal championship) not two
It doesn't need a title but it'll probably be for one
No as it basically takes it form a 90% chance of Roman Winning to a 2000% chance which would kill any suspense it might have. Unfortunately who's gonna take either title from him before Mania? They had a Golden opportunity with Drew to split the titles and blew it. Cody won't be back in time and he's basically ran through everyone else.
Honestly, it doesn’t need a title. But who else would it be?
No i do not. I think it should be more about respect/family morality
I think this match would be better off without titles involved
I think they’re keeping the titles on Roman until Mania because if the Rock isn’t able to make it to Mania, then Plan B is Cody Rhodes vs. Roman Reigns at Mania. And Cody will win the titles at Mania.
WWE is trying to ensure their Plan B for Mania can happen if need be, so that must be why they’re keeping the titles on Roman until Mania.
It's probably better if it doesnt have a title cuz if it does the result is insanely obvious
No title or a just a non title match because it's a good guess that Rock wouldn't win title because it's either his last match or last for a while
If it’s for the title Roman win
If it’s non title Rock wins
No title it’s more than a title it’s for the head of the table spot
A title would immediately make the winner obvious as the rock ain’t coming back to have a title run.
2013 LeBron, you know what you’re talking about ☝🏾
Romans matches in 2020-21 was great but since 2022 it's wrose
No title but the head of the table title
No, it doesn't need the belt. But let's look at it this way, if the title is in another match then that match is really going to be overshadowed by the rock/reigns match ala Punk vs Jericho in 2012
Make it for the WWE Title. Not the Universal. Remember when Rock said “there is no championship more deeply ingrained in my blood” and then to see the tribal cheif holding and “disrespecting” it writes itself
I'm personally down for a title shot. As many wrestlemania events the rock was involved in, has anyone noticed he's never won a world title at wrestlemania? When he was champion at wrestlemania, he would lose it. So I think it would be a nice finished on saying the rock has done it all if he wins the title on this wrestlemania
Yes otherwise we've got to put up with another 3 years with uninspired stories for the main belt
Inevitable for this to happen at Mania, Roman wins BUT Theory cashes in PULLING one of the BIGGEST Troll moves ever!!!
Does it really need to happen? I've heard some say that this is a dream match, but I haven't seen anything in regards to a comment like that since Reigns became a singles star.
I'd have Cody return and win the rumble, Cody faces Roman night 1 for the wwe title and cody wins with the help of The Rock and then night 2 Roman faces Rock for the universal title, Roman wins and Rock raises Roman's hand with the full bloodline standing in the ring and then out of nowhere Solo Sikoa and The Usos turn on both Rock and Roman, then Austin Theory runs down and cashes in to end the reign of reigns.
Just literally getting back into wrestling content after a LONG time away since the attitude era...what the HELL are those belts????? Oh my god the absolute state of them!! They look like a cheap kids toy hahaha wow.
You choosed the worst time to comeback back to wrestling😂it's literally a clowns show right now
It should be for the title cus simply the biggest and most important match should always be for the world title imagine if kane won royal rumble 2001 and the world title match is big show vs kane not rock and Austin 😂
The three most exciting Wrestlemania singles matches I have ever seen did not need a title to steal the show, so this match does not need a title either, especially not with the two guys being part timers anyway.
It doesn't need a Title imo cuz it will overshadow the Prestige of the Title. This a Hogan vs Rock Level of A match
Have Cody vs.reigns for WWE championship night one then have rock vs.reigns night two
I think it's about putting the biggest match possible on the biggest card of the year.
Here's a suggestion: Have Roman vs. Royal Rumble winner Cody Rhodes main event Card I for the WWE Championship as the Royal Rumble regulations allow for a fight for one title of the winner's choice. He wants the WWE Championship at Mania. Meanwhile, The Rock challenges Roman for the other title, claiming that a true leader, a true head of the table, would fight against anyone as he calls Roman a weak excuse for a champion that would have never had a title run like this in the late 90's and early 2000's. Roman, in his arrogance and anger, accepts the challenge.
On the first night, Roman dominates Cody, while Cody delivers many great counters in many unsuccessful comeback attempts, leading to an extremely close nearfall after hitting a series of Cross Rhodes after countering a second Spear attempt. One Superman Punch ref bump late in the match later, the Bloodline tries to interfere, but Rocky, who has been taunting and distracting Reigns during the entire match after Reigns dared him to interfere and cause a DQ, jumps over the Barricade to clean house and hit a Rock Bottom on Reigns who had just speared a distracted Cody for a 3-count (Cody is able to get his shoulder up by himself at the hypothetical count of 4 or 5 instead of Reigns just stopping the pin attempt, so there is some room for discussion), but the ref was still knocked out. A new ref comes in and bans Rock and the Bloodline from the ring. After closely avoiding a double countout on the canvas, Cody counters yet another spear attempt into the Pedigree, 3 count (so that the crowd feels like Cody earned it and that he actually prepared for the match as he countered not just one, but three Spears). A-Town down, but Rock runs after him for some legendary images and Rock and Cody hit their finishers on Theory and the show ends with Rock raising Cody's arm in the air to huge fireworks and confetti, giving a throwback to Royal Rumble 2015, but this time, he applauds a champ that the people adore as a babyface.
The next night, Roman absolutely destroys The Rock after a test of strength and some roll-up attempts by Rocky, even worse than Lesnar did Cena. Rock can land two Rock Bottoms, one early in the match for a one count, one later in a short comeback attempt for a two count, but cannot get much more offense in. Reigns first takes a page out of Lesnar's playbook and hits some hard German Suplexes and later batters him with Superman Punch after Superman Punch while talking trash and taking all the time in the world for Rocky to stand up again in between, creating tension for a potential upset due to arrogance while establishing pure dominance. Rock won't get another comeback and Reigns spears him, just to raise his shoulders to hit another and another one until the ref stops the match and declares him the winner, thereby acknowledging Roman's dominance (during the match Reigns often shouted at anyone around to acknowledge him as the true champion, even grabbing a mic once during the match). After the match, he still is full of rage and shouts at Theory to come out and cash in because he wants another challenge. Theory doesn't come out, so Roman dismantles the ring and absolutely beats the shit out of his Bloodline crew and Paul Heyman. This ends the show with a shocker. I'd be following audience reactions to this angle whether to make Roman the most evil of heels or an anti-hero babyface.
In the RAW after Mania, Cody opens the show and presents a new WWE Championship belt in retro-style as he did before with the IC Championship belt. He challenges anyone for a Championship match in the main event of the show because he wants to prove to himself and the WWE Universe that he is worthy of that title. AJ Styles comes out and they have a 30 minute banger of a match that Cody barely wins after AJ dismantled Cody's leg. They tease an AJ heel turn and a Theory cash-in with an extended post-match, but it doesn't happen. On SmackDown, Reigns challenges Cody for a WWE Championship match at Backlash so he can reclaim what's his, but he is interrupted with some family business. Back on RAW, Cody talks about the challenge, that it's only his title on the line, but he accepts it to prove everyone that he can beat Roman Reigns one on one with no interference. Because of both wrestler's interests (keep out the Uso brothers and make sure it's one on one), they agree on having a Steel Cage match. They have a gruesome one, a hard battle, that left both broken, so, finally, Austin Theory cashes in his briefcase to make it a Triple Threat, climbs into the ring and just walks out of the door right after to become the new WWE Champion. He successfully defends it against Cody, Gargano and Lashley due to shere luck and interference by his new manager, Paul Heyman. Reigns holds the Universal Title at least until SummerSlam, so he can pass Pedro Morales's 1027 days.
Just some quickly written down thoughts.
Rock, a retired wrestler, should NOT be in the main event match at wrestlmania especially not for the title I don’t give a shit about how many tickets the dude sells he hasn’t been in an actual storyline for literally a decade now. That spot belongs to a full time young wrestler not a guy who they’ve been trying and failing to bring him back for years now and Roman should NOT still be champion come wrestlmania this shit is getting real boring af
If at wrestlemania yes
It doesn't make any sense for it to be a title match because even if The Rock wins he pops up in WWE every few years so it should be for family pride instead of the title being on the line.
I think they should have the rock return and vacate the titles from Roman for cheating in a payperview so that you have the rock vs Roman to see who’s really the best in family and then have Cody vs cena for wwe title where cena is trying to become 17th time champion and Cody doing it for his dad and then Seth vs riddle for the universal title and have theory cash in on whoever
Rock vs Roman doesn’t need the title, but there’s no other match that deserves the title. Anything else will be overshadowed by it
No but Roman can’t lose so it probably going to be for the title hopefully only the universal championship tho 🔥🔥🔥🔥
It makes much more sense to do it with no title. If there was a title on the line, it’s a guaranteed Roman win. Without it, leaves room for a chance Rock wins.
NO. It doesn’t need a title at all. They’re both established stars. Just the announcement of the match alone will put hundreds of thousands of butts in seats. Roman should drop the WWE Title to either Seth or Cody, then Rock should cost him the Universal Title to Drew McIntyre, then they can focus on each other.
Everyone in the comment section needs to stop saying “lets make the match less predictable” It doesn't matter whether the titles are on the line or not, we already know who would win that match. If Roman loses the titles prior to Wrestlemania, then beating Rock at Wrestlemania becomes an absolute must for the sake of his career. We're talking about a 37 year old megastar with so many years left in the tank, against a 51 year old full time actor.
Putting the titles on the line, and maintaining Romans's undefeated run is the right call.