In the 21st century for most families double wall ovens and double oven ranges rarely make sense. However in the 1950s - '70s double ovens were fairly popular with a wide variety of models and colors available, including the classic 40 inch double oven ranges and upper/lower oven ranges. Since families at the time tended to be quite large compared to many young couples today who tend to marry later in life and have fewer children if any, than their parents and grandparents, having two ovens was often seen as more of a necessity and less as a status symbol when designing a kitchen and shopping for appliances.
This is my recommendation, how to install a dishwasher: Install it halfway to the countertop, so that the lower drawer is below and the upper drawer is above the countertop. The benefit is, that you will not have to bend down to load/unload the dishwasher. This is a proven way tondo it right. Your back will thank you, because you use the dishwasher relatively often. Underneath the dishwasher is a good space for a normal drawer to store anything you don’t need that often.
I have been designing, building, and installing kitchens for 20 years. The most important triangle in a kitchen is the garbage/compost, sink, dishwasher.
@@YaleAppliance1 Hopefully you only burn something once In a while. You clean up the dishes after a meal 1-3 times a day. Keeping the garbage/compost, sink, and dishwasher close together will save a lot of steps over the life of your kitchen.
I would definitely recommend two sinks if you have the space and especially if you have an island the prep sink gives you a space to always drain your pasta, wash your veggies, fill your pots etc the main sink.. is always full of dirty dishes 😂
I know several people that don't cook, don't even like to cook, but they just had to have everything "top of the line" in their kitchen. And no, they don't have a private chef either lol
Interesting. With modern families tending to be smaller, dishwashers become ever more irrelevant. With a family of say 3, why would you need a dishwasher, and if you did insist how often would it be used? I'm amazed that you pay so little attention to where the fridge is! In our kitchen the three most often used appliances by far are: the fridge, the kettle and the microwave - yet you almost ignore all three! I learned that the stove, the sink and the fridge need to be in a triangle, all within 2-3 steps from each other. The kettle (ie coffee/tea-making station) and microwave could be slightly out of the main traffic area of the triangle. Also, the stove needs to be flanked on each side by wide uncluttered working surfaces, as these are used a lot and continuously. In the UK one also has to consider that 2 more appliances have to be accommodated in the kitchen - the washing machine and the tumble dryer! Hence the invention of one of the worst appliances ever - the front-loading washing machine/tumble dryer combo! These are diabolical, and the source of more frustration, disruption and cost than all other appliances combined. Unfortunately, with UK kitchen space at an absolute premium, there is often no alternative. Some intelligent designers cleverly add a pantry space in some homes, and this is a great place to include a "laundry" with a tumble dryer and top-loading washing machine! This, however, is not the case in most older homes, where a tumble dryer is a rarity. Most drying is done in the airing room where the boiler is often accommodated. Clearly, the type of lifestyle you keep referring to is very different over in the States, where floorspace in homes is at a completely different level. Over in Europe, things are very different!
If anything dishwashers are becoming more relevant. Dishwashers not only save time but perhaps most importantly, new dishwashers save dramatically more water. Not only is this good for your pocket book but here in the US where localities are placing limits on water usage , it will be even more important. I would imagine most viewers here are from the US and if not in NYC, have never seen a washer in the kitchen. Thankfully, that travesty hasn't migrated across the Atlantic in any real way. You all have to make sacrifices in space most Americans can't imagine
The English don't like my arrangements.....First, the combo is on my list of what not to buy. BUT we have larger kitchens here and the triangle works. You have space on either side of the stove. If you burn something, then your sink is right there... But do you need to be in the refrigerator? Not really.....anyway, thanks for your comments. I look forward to visiting your country again soon
@@YaleAppliance1 Interesting. in our kitchen, we keep all fresh produce in the fridge, all sauces, milk, cream, wine etc that one needs for food prep. Where do you keep yours?
Well I placed a smaller point of use refrigerator in my island....did a wine cooler in my previous condo, but I was without children then.....You know booze for fruit and veg. ..and you can do the same in the US in larger spaces.....Remember, we dont have formal dining rooms here anymore. You know....we have live webinars monthly and I answer questions in real time...so bring it on...
@@YaleAppliance1 I can relate. My son has a home in Jacksonville, Fa and his kitchen wouldn't be out of place in a small hotel! You guys are just so spoilt for space. Much like we were in South Africa, before emigrating. Would you believe here in the UK I can stand in my en suite bathroom and touch all four walls without moving my feet!
Picture it. Sicily, 1939... No, how about a galley 129 inches by 93, doors at either end. six feet of windows on the south side, ideal location for the sink, dishwasher to the right of the sink and a seat tp the right of the dishwasher, that section of countertop supported by a hidden skeleton frame to allow a place to sit at the counter. Aisle a bit less than 48 inches and a straight wall on the north side. narrow door (28 inches) asymmetrically placed at the east end opens into the breakfast room, 32-inch door at the west end. The asymmetric door placement limits me to a full-depth fridge against the north wall at the east end. 30-inch convection wall oven at the west end under a raised countertop (setting the oven under a 48-inch-high countertop makes a lot of difference to an old geezer) with a gas cooktop between the fridge and the oven....
@@YaleAppliance1 On an old sit-com the oldest regular character would start her tall tales with that line. "Picture it. Sicily...." and the tale often ended with some none-too-subtle but comical reference to a grisly act of organized crime retribution. My current kitchen looks like a car wreck with fatalities, my dream when completed will have the fridge at the east end of the north wall, against a wall that cannot be modified, the oven at the west end space between these appliances will be about 60 inches, which would leave a 15-inch landing zone on either side of a 30-inch cooktop. The cooktop will be across the aisle from the sink which will not be centered under the windows on the south wall (a galley, remember).
Dont hate dual fuel......Cmon man. Induction is better on the top and there are some advantages to gas.....Want people to stop defaulting to what their salesperson says and think what might be best for them
@@YaleAppliance1 Until the electrical grid is 100% reliable 100% of the time, you need to keep some form of combustion-based food heating appliance. Add in the cost of adding the 50-amp service for an induction cooktop and that the existing grid infrastructure lacks the capacity to support total electric in every home and you can see that gas isn't going anywhere.
In the 21st century for most families double wall ovens and double oven ranges rarely make sense.
However in the 1950s - '70s double ovens were fairly popular with a wide variety of models and colors available, including the classic 40 inch double oven ranges and upper/lower oven ranges. Since families at the time tended to be quite large compared to many young couples today who tend to marry later in life and have fewer children if any, than their parents and grandparents, having two ovens was often seen as more of a necessity and less as a status symbol when designing a kitchen and shopping for appliances.
I'm glad you mentioned not having your microwave at or above face level. Those over-the-stove microwaves can be especially hazardous to older folks.
Thanks! These are some real, practical, common sense suggestions.
Great advice as always. Really useful.
This is my recommendation, how to install a dishwasher: Install it halfway to the countertop, so that the lower drawer is below and the upper drawer is above the countertop. The benefit is, that you will not have to bend down to load/unload the dishwasher. This is a proven way tondo it right. Your back will thank you, because you use the dishwasher relatively often.
Underneath the dishwasher is a good space for a normal drawer to store anything you don’t need that often.
I have been designing, building, and installing kitchens for 20 years. The most important triangle in a kitchen is the garbage/compost, sink, dishwasher.
You burn something on your stovetop or oven...where do you look first?
@@YaleAppliance1
Hopefully you only burn something once In a while. You clean up the dishes after a meal 1-3 times a day. Keeping the garbage/compost, sink, and dishwasher close together will save a lot of steps over the life of your kitchen.
I would definitely recommend two sinks if you have the space and especially if you have an island
the prep sink gives you a space to always drain your pasta, wash your veggies, fill your pots etc
the main sink.. is always full of dirty dishes 😂
Good idea
While the sink is important, ventilation should be the next consideration before any range or cooktop.
Wait until part 3
I know several people that don't cook, don't even like to cook, but they just had to have everything "top of the line" in their kitchen. And no, they don't have a private chef either lol
That’s because they have the money, good taste, and good sense to know how it will affect the resale of their house.
People buy double and triple ovens for RESALE value too.
Interesting. With modern families tending to be smaller, dishwashers become ever more irrelevant. With a family of say 3, why would you need a dishwasher, and if you did insist how often would it be used?
I'm amazed that you pay so little attention to where the fridge is! In our kitchen the three most often used appliances by far are: the fridge, the kettle and the microwave - yet you almost ignore all three!
I learned that the stove, the sink and the fridge need to be in a triangle, all within 2-3 steps from each other. The kettle (ie coffee/tea-making station) and microwave could be slightly out of the main traffic area of the triangle. Also, the stove needs to be flanked on each side by wide uncluttered working surfaces, as these are used a lot and continuously. In the UK one also has to consider that 2 more appliances have to be accommodated in the kitchen - the washing machine and the tumble dryer! Hence the invention of one of the worst appliances ever - the front-loading washing machine/tumble dryer combo! These are diabolical, and the source of more frustration, disruption and cost than all other appliances combined. Unfortunately, with UK kitchen space at an absolute premium, there is often no alternative.
Some intelligent designers cleverly add a pantry space in some homes, and this is a great place to include a "laundry" with a tumble dryer and top-loading washing machine! This, however, is not the case in most older homes, where a tumble dryer is a rarity. Most drying is done in the airing room where the boiler is often accommodated.
Clearly, the type of lifestyle you keep referring to is very different over in the States, where floorspace in homes is at a completely different level. Over in Europe, things are very different!
If anything dishwashers are becoming more relevant. Dishwashers not only save time but perhaps most importantly, new dishwashers save dramatically more water. Not only is this good for your pocket book but here in the US where localities are placing limits on water usage , it will be even more important. I would imagine most viewers here are from the US and if not in NYC, have never seen a washer in the kitchen. Thankfully, that travesty hasn't migrated across the Atlantic in any real way. You all have to make sacrifices in space most Americans can't imagine
The English don't like my arrangements.....First, the combo is on my list of what not to buy. BUT we have larger kitchens here and the triangle works. You have space on either side of the stove. If you burn something, then your sink is right there...
But do you need to be in the refrigerator? Not really.....anyway, thanks for your comments. I look forward to visiting your country again soon
@@YaleAppliance1 Interesting. in our kitchen, we keep all fresh produce in the fridge, all sauces, milk, cream, wine etc that one needs for food prep. Where do you keep yours?
Well I placed a smaller point of use refrigerator in my island....did a wine cooler in my previous condo, but I was without children then.....You know booze for fruit and veg. ..and you can do the same in the US in larger spaces.....Remember, we dont have formal dining rooms here anymore.
You know....we have live webinars monthly and I answer questions in real time...so bring it on...
@@YaleAppliance1 I can relate. My son has a home in Jacksonville, Fa and his kitchen wouldn't be out of place in a small hotel! You guys are just so spoilt for space. Much like we were in South Africa, before emigrating. Would you believe here in the UK I can stand in my en suite bathroom and touch all four walls without moving my feet!
Picture it. Sicily, 1939...
No, how about a galley 129 inches by 93, doors at either end. six feet of windows on the south side, ideal location for the sink, dishwasher to the right of the sink and a seat tp the right of the dishwasher, that section of countertop supported by a hidden skeleton frame to allow a place to sit at the counter.
Aisle a bit less than 48 inches and a straight wall on the north side. narrow door (28 inches) asymmetrically placed at the east end opens into the breakfast room, 32-inch door at the west end. The asymmetric door placement limits me to a full-depth fridge against the north wall at the east end. 30-inch convection wall oven at the west end under a raised countertop (setting the oven under a 48-inch-high countertop makes a lot of difference to an old geezer) with a gas cooktop between the fridge and the oven....
Dont understand the Sicily part...But where is the stovetop
@@YaleAppliance1 On an old sit-com the oldest regular character would start her tall tales with that line.
"Picture it. Sicily...." and the tale often ended with some none-too-subtle but comical reference to a grisly act of organized crime retribution.
My current kitchen looks like a car wreck with fatalities, my dream when completed will have the fridge at the east end of the north wall, against a wall that cannot be modified, the oven at the west end space between these appliances will be about 60 inches, which would leave a 15-inch landing zone on either side of a 30-inch cooktop. The cooktop will be across the aisle from the sink which will not be centered under the windows on the south wall (a galley, remember).
This guy hates duel fuel ovens. Cmon bro electric ovens cook roasts great. Better than gas! Moisture is better for baking not roasts
Dont hate dual fuel......Cmon man. Induction is better on the top and there are some advantages to gas.....Want people to stop defaulting to what their salesperson says and think what might be best for them
@@YaleAppliance1 Until the electrical grid is 100% reliable 100% of the time, you need to keep some form of combustion-based food heating appliance.
Add in the cost of adding the 50-amp service for an induction cooktop and that the existing grid infrastructure lacks the capacity to support total electric in every home and you can see that gas isn't going anywhere.