I just want to thank you profoundly, out of everyone on youtube you are the ONLY person I've found who actually placed 3 sleeping pads inside the Triplex thus demonstrating first hand if 3 sleeping pads in the triplex would or wouldn't work. 🙏
The Solo in this video is now an older model. I believe it's been replaced with the Plexamid? That tent only requires one trekking pole. Thanks for watching!
Really well done comparison and I liked your reasoning for different use cases and different material choices. I have the same camo Duplex and love, love, love it. Easy to setup, very spacious inside, virtually water proof and great ventilation. And camo looks very sharp, making it as well one of the prettiest tents in campground. I did not play with different tent pole height settings, but it's great to know that you can pitch it very low if you are concerned over the driving rain, high wind, cold or combination of the above.
Dima Habenko Thank you very much! I am not surprised that you LOVE your duplex. I think most do. They are pretty close to the perfect backpacking tent. Hike on!!!
Nice vid, you give all the basics, show how the tents look inside and outside, the colors and weights, and pro's and con's, and your an AT thru-hiker so you talk from first hand experience about backpacking gear choices. BIG THANKS!!
Thanks for the video. I own both the Duplex and the Solplex and think that you did a nice job comparing. The Duplex is great for 2 people and palacial for 1. The Solplex was a surprise for me. For reference, I am 6'2" and about 250 lbs. I bought it for fast and light trips. I found it to be very comfy for 1 person, mostly due to the vertical sidewalls. Regarding stakes, I hated the Zpacks V stakes. I simply destroyed them too quickly. I do love the MSR Groundhogs but, if I'm going somewhere where I know the ground will be hard, I carry the MSR Needle stakes and find them to be darn durable.
Thank you for all of the details. I appreciate you putting the pads in there to visualize the space more. I never saw the camo but I do like that it lets less light in. I am going to do the PCT solo and have been trying to decide and this video really helped. Thank you!
Excellent video Disciple. I know we are years late, but our decision to go with the Duplex was made after watching your video. The tent is in the mail and we are stoked to use it next month on our 18 days on the AT. Hope all is well!
Zpacks customer service is awesome. Great products and great service in my experience. Excellent video. I have a Triplex, Archaul, and other stuff from them. All top notch. Sort of toying with a Duplex but as a big guy and having used the REI Expedition tent for years, sort of stuck on Triplex.
Solid choices nan! I just got a new plexamid and so far love it! And your right, their service is GREAT! Look for a vid shortly on their customer service. Thanks for watching and HIKE ON!
Hey you're very welcome! Thank you for the very kind words! I'm glad it was helpful, be sure to check out some of our other videos or my current PCT through hike videos. Maybe some others will be helpful as well?
Excellent video! I really appreciate your insight and you speak from experience! I've been looking at tents for a while now and this is one of the best (if not the best!) videos out there talking about these tents! Thanks!
Hey Tim, thank you! I'm very glad the video helped! Just in case your interested, I've got a like new plexamid I'm thinking of selling. It cool because it's right in between the solplex and the duplex. If you want more info let me know. Email is curtebert@gmail.com Happy trails! 😀
Thanks for this great Zpacks comparison . I’m coming to the point of purchasing my tent for a 2019 SOBO. Your reasoning on use of each is spot on! I appreciate your advice and blog . JW from Alaska
Great comparison, especially like the pad/bag visuals. Would two 25" wide pads fit in the duo? And you briefly mentioned condensation issues with the triplex mesh. If you are getting water running over the mesh and into the tent, it's because you're using one stake on the side instead of two. when the upper-sides are staked too close to the tent, it angles the mesh up and away, causing the water to flow over vs through the mesh. You may be better off not staking the upper sides at all.
Hey thanks! I think two 25" pads would fit but be really tight. Which may not be a bad thing. Kinda like a queen mattress vs two twins???? Lol. Happy trails!!
Great video Disciple! Love the look of the triplex. May get one for me and Hollywood (son) so we can have some more room but only need to carry one tent.
Early_Riser_71 Hey, Brother! Awesome to hear from you. Miss the back and forth with you from last year. The Triplex is DELUX and with it being barely heavier, totally worth it.
I got a Duplex (spruce green of course) a few months ago, and i REALLY like how quick and easy it is to set up and take down!!! The main thing i do NOT like about it is that if i close the doors, and wake up and have some urgent peeing business in the morning, it is a bit difficult to open from the inside... Another thing is that i am used to a 3 person tent, so the Duplex felt kinda small, making me think about getting the Triplex instead. But as the small footprint makes it much easier to find a place to set it up, i guess i will stick with it. I probably just need to take it for a few more trips to get used to it, and then im completely in love with it :P
As you use the door tie outside they get easier and easier as you get better and better at undoing them. Also one if the best things I've ever done is start using a pee bottle. Now I never leave my tent until I want to. Happy trails!!!😀
I think I'm sticking with my Big Agnes HV-UL2 for the PCT next year, but perhaps I'll swap out the stakes to cut a little weight. Great presentation Not By Sight! Happy hiking!
Hey thanks! Which of the Big Agnes hvul2s do ya have? I saw lots of Fly Crees and Copper Spurs on both the AT. and PCT. Great choices! They have a Tiger Wall now as well.
@@NotBySight Mine is the Fly Creek...I really enjoy it so far! Maybe one of these days I'll end up with a Zpacks tent...I saw loads of Copper Spurs out on the AT in 2015 as well.
Since you have a dog, would these tent floors hold up to dogs. Apparently DCF is not great as far as punctures go. The other "issue" for me is the trekking pole being in the middle of the opening to get in an out of the tent.
Yeah thats a NO GO on Fido in the tent!! Crazy light weight and toenails aren't friends. The pole in the center hasn't been an issue for me. Hope that helps!!! Happy trails!
Excellent, thank you. I tried a Duplex with my girlfriend before our Te Araroa through-hike and found it to be too small (we went with a Tarptent Scarp II), but we are considering a Triplex for our upcoming PCT through-hike.
Yeah a lot of people would find the duplex a little snug for two people. You will love the triplex. When are y'all starting the PCT? That's super exciting!
My wife just told me she bought me a #Zpacks Triplex for Christmas. Ive been wanting a Zpacks Duplex for over a year; however the cost just causing me to take a step back. Since my wife is now back packing with me, she got the Triplex as it has the same footprint as our current tent and gives us room for our backpacks in bad weather or to keep the critters away. Gonna be nice losing 5 lbs off my back. Question: Did you have to do any additional seam sealing once you got the Zpacks tents or was their seam sealing fine for your thru-hike of the AT (Green Tunnel)?
Hey great to hear from you! I did not need to do any extra seam sealing. They are perfect right from the factory. Let me know how you like your new tent. Thanks for watching!
Disciple: love your videos. I'm a solo backpacker and buying a Zpacks Duplex. Not sure which weight material to purchase. Not concerned with the transparency but looking to buy once and cry once. Any input would be appreciated. My first hike is going to be Pictured rocks this September
Hey thanks!!! So if absolute lightest Is a priority go w the blue. If the most durable is a priority go w the olive thicker one. But if the camo isn't a turn off, it's right in the middle. Great weight to durability. All are great choices! I still use my camo duplex all the time, even after a thru hike on it. You will love whichever you choose. Let me know ow if you have any other questions. Happy trails!
Thank you very much I really did appreciate this video I am in the market for a new tent and was considering the Zpacks duplex after watching some other videos almost change my mind but I have now decided I will get the duplex I just subscribed to your channel and so far I am liking your videos thank you
Great review. I have rent envy now. I may trade in my Agnes copper spur 2. I do love the weight of the solplex, but love the room of the duplex. Thanks, hope everyone is happy and well!!!
Old Ladies Hiking North On The Appalachian Trail Hey Pacifier! Great to hear from you. So proud of what you are doing and your progress! The Duplex is totally worth it, if financially possible. The weight savings, ease of setup, tear down, and packing is really nice. HIGHLY recommend it.
Absolutely love this video-it’s so well thought out and the information is unique and relevant. I subscribed and am definitely about to see what other videos you’ve made. Definitely helped me make a decision on my tent (and stakes). Actually, now that I’m shopping, would you use the 6” blues all around or are there certain points where 7”s would be valuable?
Hey there! Thank you for the very encouraging compliment! I'm very glad that this video helped you! And thank you for subscribing hopefully there are some other reviews that will help you as well. I do have A-tent stake specific Video. As to 6" versus 7" it really depends on the soil your IN. I usually carry shepherd's hook and a couple carbon core stakes along with the blue ones. You can always use rocks and/or logs as well. Let me know if you have any other questions or if I can help in any way.😀
Not By Sight I will definitely check that out! Thanks for the response! Funny story-I started watching your PCT series after posting that comment just to switch it up. In the very first video you you meet some hikers and do a mini interview-I about fell out of my chair, one of them was my uncle Dave! I knew he was out on the trail this year, but to randomly see him pop up on someone else’s UA-cam channel was weird to put it mildly. Anyway, thanks again sir!
@@matthewk3228 Hey, Matthew! This is Disciple's wife. How is your uncle? I was thinking about him the other day and just happened to read through some of these comments today and saw this. Tell him hello from us!
Really nicely done. Did the Plexamid replace the Solplex? Do you have any comments on the Plexamid versus the Solplex? I really really like the Duplex but one of my reasons for switching tents is to reduce footprint....for those stealth moments or when it's crowded at the camp site!
Hey thank you! Yes the plexamid replaced the solplex I now have a plexamid and really like it. It is about 5oz. Lighter than the duplex and a bit smaller footprint. If weight is crutial then go w plexamid overall versatility the duplex is hard to beat. Hope that helps!!!
Hey! I think zpacks lists packets size on their website, but really there is just slight difference in size on each one. I have a Nero and I sewed line locks and cord to the bottom of the back, below the mesh (like the arc blast) to strap my tent to the outside. It works fantastic! Hope that helps! Thanks for watching!
Well how many people will be in it and how often? My wife and I are a bit larger than some hikers and we fit ok in duplex. We r doing about a 100 min in a week and we will be taking the trip. Much more comfy for us in trip. We can have more room to spread out gear and weight difference is minimal. Hope that helps.
Not By Sight it’s for me and my girlfriend to go backpacking. She’s only 5 3, but I’m 6 2. We don’t need a lot of space, and we use smaller sleeping pads, but 45 inches across is pretty small. However, the size of the campsite required for the triplex is a concern as well. Probably gonna wait until trial days to see both tents in person.
@@Yeagizzo We measured them out on the floor and put tape down, then laid down inside the tape. The only difference is the width. If you're ultralight and minimalistic, you'll be fine with the Duplex. If you're more conventional you'll appreciate the Triplex.
Really enjoyed your comparisons. Do you think you'd go with the Triplex if you were to thru-hike with a partner versus the Duplex? My girlfriend and I are considering pursuing a thru-hike and I've been agonizing over the Duplex versus Triplex. The Triplex footprint seems massive, but the duplex seems like it might be a little bit tight for me. I'm 6'4 and about 215. She's much smaller, but I'm not sure I'd be able to avoid my toe box rubbing against the wall and sucking up dew (which drives me nuts!). We're pretty experienced re: pitching tents and finding space, but don't have experience on the PCT/AT. Any additional thoughts? Thanks.
Hey thanks for the compliment and your sure welcome! So you are exactly right the Tri plex is huge and the duplex would be tight. With you or height I would go with the Tri plex for sure. You're toe Box will rub more often in the smaller tent. With the Tri plex you can lay at more of an angle and on the Appalachian trail condensation is a real issue. I hate my toe Box getting wet as well. Lol Let me know if you have any more questions I hope I helped some.😀
Thanks for the review. Currently torn between buying a Plexamid or a Duplex. Most of my hiking is solo but occasionally my partner comes along but she's only small stature. Thoughts currently are leaning to Plexamid and a cheapy two person for car camping and short overnight hikes.
Matt Bowen Hey Matt! The plexamid looks pretty sweet. Watch Will Wood and Zpacks new vids on the Uinta Mts of Utah. Several employees camping solo in Duplex. One, I think, is in the Plexamid to kinda further test. That duplex is HARD to beat for weight and cost w/ space and versatility. Hike on!
I too am looking at the plexamid vs the Duplex for a thru hike. I think you are suggesting that the extra space of the duplex would be more beneficial for a long distance hike over the weight savings? Thanks for the video.
The best review on zpack tents. I'm concerned with rain and wind splash back into the tent. What is your experience. I know the duplex is much used with thru hikers. But after seeing this I'm considering the solo. I'm looking to reduce my base weight. But my sleeping bag is 2lb 10oz, I know! So trying to cut back on bag and tent. Thanks
There is a little learning curve with these tents as far as how and where to pitch them according to weather etc. I had no issues with mine or really ever heard of any issues on the trail as far as rain. The soleplex is only a consideration if 4 or 5 ounces lighter is a big deal or not. Otherwise the duplex is very nice to have more room. Only when I'm crazy ultralight do I take the soleplex. Hope that helps! Hike on!!!
Love seeing these videos of yours Disciple after our chance meeting on the AT! I guess a question I have is, how do these fit a taller person? With being 6'4" I need something that'll fit my frame. How do these hold up to that requirement?
I have a duplex, used it on my entire AT thru hike, I am 6'4" and the tent is perfect. I can sit up comfortably inside. I do sleep on my side and if you are a back sleeper, your feet will often rub against the sides of the tent. This is only a problem if there is some moisture on the tent walls, or if it is raining and your feet push down the bathtub floor and get some splash on your foot box. Overall, this is the best tent I have ever used, and even after my thru hike, it looks brand new. Slept in it over 100 nights.
Mark Farrar Hey, Mark! Super cool to hear from you! The only thing I can add to ER's comment is buy some Granger DWR booster to coat your sleeping bag, especially the footbox. It helps with water resistance. Hike on, Brother!
Hello Disciple, thank you for your excellent comparison video. I'm sorry you shrank by an inch :) but your height info was important for scale, as many reviewers don't lie down AND tell us their height. Did you find the extra tie out on the triplex at each end helped to extend the length compared to the duplex? Even though the specs on the zpacks website show that the only difference in size is the width, your triplex looks longer than your duplex - is that right? Thanks again.
Howdy Nadine! I believe my trip and duplex are the same length. Must be the material and optical illusion.😀 Yes I like the double toe out on the trip. In strong winds it's needed. Hope that helps. Thank you for the kind words! Hike on!
Thanks for the comparison. Very helpful. In your opinion, do you think the Triplex is big enough for two people and a 60 lb. dog? Based on the video, it seems like it might be close quarters.
Glade Sowards Close quarters is kinda personal opinion. If you are used to a tiny tarpmthat you have to sleep on your side when it rains then the triple is huge. If you are used to a 6 person tent then it will seem SMALL. I think it would work pretty well on size but I am more concerned about Fido's nails on the floor. But that's w any tent. Thanks for watching,! Happy trails!
Thanks for the response. I use a Solplex regularly for solo trips, so I’m used to Zpacks’ construction and pitch. For two and a dog, I’ve been using an HMG Ultamid 2 w/ floored insert. No problems with the pup’s nails at DCF 1.1, so I’m hopeful that DCF 1.0 would be okay. I’m more concerned about there not being enough room. The Ultamid 2 insert width is 76” (16” wider than the Triplex), but the walls pitch in pretty quickly, which limits the usable width. In my experience with the Solplex, the vertical side walls make a big difference with overall livability, so I’m hopeful that the Triplex would yield similar benefits. In any case, thanks for the feedback. My guess is that I’m only going to know for sure by trying one.
Hi, can I ask when did you purchase your duplex Camo? Only asking as I have received mine two weeks ago and my inside storage pockets are on the inside entrances apposed to your head and feet end? Is mine a manufacturing defect as every video I have seen on the net are in the same position as yours head and feet ends.
DjPepelicious Definitely sounds like an email into ZPacks might be in order. I have had my Duplex since January of 2017. We received the Triplex in March of 2018 with the storage pockets at the head and feet. Hope this helps and thanks for watching!
Not By Sight thank you for taking time to reply. I have sent Zpacks an email letting them know how disappointed I am that they let this leave the workshop with no quality control, but at the same time the workmanship is second to none.. I’m sure they will be more than happy to sort it out. Thanks again for the reply and keep the vids coming.
DjPepelicious - Did you get a reply from Zpacks and what did they say? I recently ordered one, but it hasn't arrived yet and I was expecting the pockets to be at the head and feet until I read your comment. Upon further examination, Zpacks website says, "Mesh pockets are conveniently located near each screen door so that they can be accessed from inside or outside the tent." I'm curious where they are going to be when I receive my tent.
KC Cross Hi, they did get back to me. Unfortunately they are not willing to cater to my needs or should I say at the time of purchase their website clearly stated the pockets are at the foot and head ends so they should have shipped it that way. Had I placed the order after they updated their website I would understand and accept the new pocket location. I also found some inconsistencies with their sewing of the tent. I requested a new tent and also asked if they could put the pockets at the head and foot end, upon the arrival of the new tent the pockets were sewn on the sides again. The tent I returned had been lost or stolen and I’m chasing up a payment through the courier company.. a bit frustrating on my side as all this could have been avoided if they had sewn the whole tent perfectly and put the pockets on the head and foot end.. hopefully this made sense as I’m trying to finish up for the day haha
Thanks for getting back to me. That's too bad you are having a rough experience, I hope I have better luck. I guess I'll consider spending another $20 (even more money!!) to order two of their mesh tent pockets and install them where I want to install them. I have always preferred having pockets at my head. It would add another 8 grams to the tent, but I don't want to do too much because the entire point of this tent is the low weight.
Great ?! So one of the downsides to non freestanding tents is super hard surfaces. You can do it by looping your outlines around rocks and or logs but it's not as bombproof as regular stakes mostly because your trekking poles may move a little on ya. That said, I camped in rough places multiple times during my thru of the AT and it always worked ok for me. Freestanding tents def. Work better if you are on granite most of the time, but wear will be a major issue. I was able to find good campsites most of the time. Hope that helps? 😀 Thanks for watching!
I wish more backpacking/hiker youtubers would use metric measurements. I’m in Australia and we don’t use ounces here, so I watch these videos with a calculator.
these seem like a pain to close the vestibule from the inside.. you have to loosen the guy, then clip and fasten the other door, then re-tighten the guy
I have heard lately that ZPacks customer service is not so great anymore plus their tents have some flaws that they aren't attending to. This has just been a few peoples opinions this year.
Yeah I've heard the same thing. But my guess is it's only a few not the majority? So far my experiences have always been positive including a couple things they warrantied from my thru-hike. Material defects not workmanship.
Friar Rodney Burnap Hello, kind Sir! I chose the Solplex over the Hexamid because of the included floor and lighter weight (considering the addition of a floor in the Hexamid). Just a little bit simpler of a total procedure with the Solplex. Hope that helps!
The video was great and you spoke well but the narration was not balanced. There are several videos detailing problems with Zpacks tents but we don't hear about any of these in your video. Overall, sounds more like a commercial than a review. Nonetheless, I appreciate you sharing your experience with your tent in your thru-hike.
Heavy thank you very much! I'm super glad it was helpful! Check out some of our other videos and maybe they will be some others you like as well. I'm on the PCT right now. Thanks for watching!
Some did. Not many, but a few. One thing is they are heavy and slow to set up. Irs hard to change clothes and dry off. My duplex is 16 ounces and I c a n pitch it in 3 minutes almost anywhere and urs roomy and private. To each their own eh!! Thanks for watching! Happy trails!!
I completely disagree with Zpacks being "true" about sizing...The Triplex is a wonderful 2p-shelter as the Duplex is a 1,5p tent but 3 or 2 p in the Plexs is rather ridiculous.Just because you throw in some mats doesn´t show the room feeling.Still a very good comparison.
I completely agree w you about this vid being a GREAT comparison! LOL! All I can say is we are pretty UL and while I used the duplex the whole trail my wife joined me for around 25+ nights together in it. We did very well together, keeping in mind we are talking backpacking w UL gear here, NOT a luxury car camping trip. Some sacrifices have to be made if weight is a concern. Oh and my wife and I are not small by any standards. Lol. To me the duplex and for that matter the tri also just sleep better than the inches say it should. They are "roomier" than you'd think I guess. Hope that helps! Hike on! 😀
@@NotBySight Sorry,what is "pretty UL"? Not to be misunderstood: I use the Altaplex for solo-trips and a Triplex for 2/3-season trips and can´t see why I should NOT carry 100 gr more to have a massive benefit from its extra space.I do know the Duplex quite well but there is something in UL what makes it rather ridiculous when it comes to its limits (and limitations). And if you say 100g more is luxury car camping I can´t take you serious anymore.It´s kind of typical UL-blah-blah ,isn´t it?;-)
Probably the best all around video for info for these tents. My mind was made up finally after this. Thanks
I'm so glad it helped¡ Which one are you going with?
@@NotBySight The duplex for sure, and those blue stakes.
I just want to thank you profoundly, out of everyone on youtube you are the ONLY person I've found who actually placed 3 sleeping pads inside the Triplex thus demonstrating first hand if 3 sleeping pads in the triplex would or wouldn't work. 🙏
Hey, you are welcome and thank you for reaching out! Happy trails!
very informative. I was under the impression the solo only required one trekking pole, thanks
The Solo in this video is now an older model. I believe it's been replaced with the Plexamid? That tent only requires one trekking pole. Thanks for watching!
Really well done comparison and I liked your reasoning for different use cases and different material choices. I have the same camo Duplex and love, love, love it. Easy to setup, very spacious inside, virtually water proof and great ventilation. And camo looks very sharp, making it as well one of the prettiest tents in campground. I did not play with different tent pole height settings, but it's great to know that you can pitch it very low if you are concerned over the driving rain, high wind, cold or combination of the above.
Dima Habenko Thank you very much! I am not surprised that you LOVE your duplex. I think most do. They are pretty close to the perfect backpacking tent. Hike on!!!
Nice vid, you give all the basics, show how the tents look inside and outside, the colors and weights, and pro's and con's, and your an AT thru-hiker so you talk from first hand experience about backpacking gear choices. BIG THANKS!!
Thanks! I'm glad the video was helpful for you. Thank you for the encouraging words andlook for some more reviews coming up soon!
Thanks for the video. I own both the Duplex and the Solplex and think that you did a nice job comparing. The Duplex is great for 2 people and palacial for 1. The Solplex was a surprise for me. For reference, I am 6'2" and about 250 lbs. I bought it for fast and light trips. I found it to be very comfy for 1 person, mostly due to the vertical sidewalls. Regarding stakes, I hated the Zpacks V stakes. I simply destroyed them too quickly. I do love the MSR Groundhogs but, if I'm going somewhere where I know the ground will be hard, I carry the MSR Needle stakes and find them to be darn durable.
Jeremiah Gillam I agree w you on the stakes and tents. So glad you liked the video! Hike on brother!!!
Thank you for all of the details. I appreciate you putting the pads in there to visualize the space more. I never saw the camo but I do like that it lets less light in. I am going to do the PCT solo and have been trying to decide and this video really helped. Thank you!
You are welcome! I'm glad the info helped. Good luck on the PCT! Happy trails!
Excellent video Disciple. I know we are years late, but our decision to go with the Duplex was made after watching your video. The tent is in the mail and we are stoked to use it next month on our 18 days on the AT. Hope all is well!
Nice!!! Yall will love it! Wish Halo n I were going g with you guys!! Happy trails!!!
@@NotBySight thank you! wish yall were coming too!
Zpacks customer service is awesome. Great products and great service in my experience.
Excellent video.
I have a Triplex, Archaul, and other stuff from them. All top notch.
Sort of toying with a Duplex but as a big guy and having used the REI Expedition tent for years, sort of stuck on Triplex.
Solid choices nan! I just got a new plexamid and so far love it! And your right, their service is GREAT! Look for a vid shortly on their customer service. Thanks for watching and HIKE ON!
This video was outstanding! Very thorough and detailed information on three tents! Thank you for sharing so much information!
Hey you're very welcome! Thank you for the very kind words! I'm glad it was helpful, be sure to check out some of our other videos or my current PCT through hike videos. Maybe some others will be helpful as well?
Excellent video! I really appreciate your insight and you speak from experience! I've been looking at tents for a while now and this is one of the best (if not the best!) videos out there talking about these tents! Thanks!
Hey Tim, thank you! I'm very glad the video helped! Just in case your interested, I've got a like new plexamid I'm thinking of selling. It cool because it's right in between the solplex and the duplex. If you want more info let me know. Email is curtebert@gmail.com Happy trails! 😀
Thanks for this great Zpacks comparison . I’m coming to the point of purchasing my tent for a 2019 SOBO. Your reasoning on use of each is spot on!
I appreciate your advice and blog .
JW from Alaska
Thank you much! So, which one are you leaning toward?
Not By Sight
Getting those blue sonic steaks and plexamid ( new version of solomid).
Great comparison, especially like the pad/bag visuals. Would two 25" wide pads fit in the duo? And you briefly mentioned condensation issues with the triplex mesh. If you are getting water running over the mesh and into the tent, it's because you're using one stake on the side instead of two. when the upper-sides are staked too close to the tent, it angles the mesh up and away, causing the water to flow over vs through the mesh. You may be better off not staking the upper sides at all.
Hey thanks! I think two 25" pads would fit but be really tight. Which may not be a bad thing. Kinda like a queen mattress vs two twins???? Lol. Happy trails!!
Thanks for the thorough reviews! You gave some of the most logical information I've seen yet. Great review!
Hey thanks! I'm so glad it helped! Happy trails!😀
Great video Disciple! Love the look of the triplex. May get one for me and Hollywood (son) so we can have some more room but only need to carry one tent.
Early_Riser_71 Hey, Brother! Awesome to hear from you. Miss the back and forth with you from last year. The Triplex is DELUX and with it being barely heavier, totally worth it.
I got a Duplex (spruce green of course) a few months ago, and i REALLY like how quick and easy it is to set up and take down!!! The main thing i do NOT like about it is that if i close the doors, and wake up and have some urgent peeing business in the morning, it is a bit difficult to open from the inside... Another thing is that i am used to a 3 person tent, so the Duplex felt kinda small, making me think about getting the Triplex instead. But as the small footprint makes it much easier to find a place to set it up, i guess i will stick with it. I probably just need to take it for a few more trips to get used to it, and then im completely in love with it :P
As you use the door tie outside they get easier and easier as you get better and better at undoing them. Also one if the best things I've ever done is start using a pee bottle. Now I never leave my tent until I want to. Happy trails!!!😀
@@NotBySight I found a video (ua-cam.com/video/OQIeMGoF4NM/v-deo.html) with a nice trick to make it very quick and easy to open and close the door :)
All great tents. Selling my solplex because at 6'3 its a little crammed. Duplex is great!
Yes I agree. I've been playing with the plexamid And I do like yet. It's like right in between those other 2 tents.
One of the best reviews I've seen on this. Good job! Definitely plan to buy a duplex or triplex at some point!
Hey thanks for the kind words! I'm so glad the review helped! Let me know if you have any ?s.
I think I'm sticking with my Big Agnes HV-UL2 for the PCT next year, but perhaps I'll swap out the stakes to cut a little weight. Great presentation Not By Sight! Happy hiking!
Hey thanks! Which of the Big Agnes hvul2s do ya have? I saw lots of Fly Crees and Copper Spurs on both the AT. and PCT. Great choices! They have a Tiger Wall now as well.
@@NotBySight Mine is the Fly Creek...I really enjoy it so far! Maybe one of these days I'll end up with a Zpacks tent...I saw loads of Copper Spurs out on the AT in 2015 as well.
Since you have a dog, would these tent floors hold up to dogs. Apparently DCF is not great as far as punctures go. The other "issue" for me is the trekking pole being in the middle of the opening to get in an out of the tent.
Yeah thats a NO GO on Fido in the tent!! Crazy light weight and toenails aren't friends. The pole in the center hasn't been an issue for me. Hope that helps!!! Happy trails!
Excellent, thank you.
I tried a Duplex with my girlfriend before our Te Araroa through-hike and found it to be too small (we went with a Tarptent Scarp II), but we are considering a Triplex for our upcoming PCT through-hike.
Yeah a lot of people would find the duplex a little snug for two people. You will love the triplex. When are y'all starting the PCT? That's super exciting!
My wife just told me she bought me a #Zpacks Triplex for Christmas. Ive been wanting a Zpacks Duplex for over a year; however the cost just causing me to take a step back. Since my wife is now back packing with me, she got the Triplex as it has the same footprint as our current tent and gives us room for our backpacks in bad weather or to keep the critters away. Gonna be nice losing 5 lbs off my back. Question: Did you have to do any additional seam sealing once you got the Zpacks tents or was their seam sealing fine for your thru-hike of the AT (Green Tunnel)?
Hey great to hear from you! I did not need to do any extra seam sealing. They are perfect right from the factory. Let me know how you like your new tent. Thanks for watching!
Disciple: love your videos. I'm a solo backpacker and buying a Zpacks Duplex. Not sure which weight material to purchase. Not concerned with the transparency but looking to buy once and cry once. Any input would be appreciated. My first hike is going to be Pictured rocks this September
Hey thanks!!! So if absolute lightest Is a priority go w the blue. If the most durable is a priority go w the olive thicker one. But if the camo isn't a turn off, it's right in the middle. Great weight to durability. All are great choices! I still use my camo duplex all the time, even after a thru hike on it. You will love whichever you choose. Let me know ow if you have any other questions. Happy trails!
Excellent comparison.....we love our blue triplex.
Hey thanks! Glad you are enjoying the outdoors! Happy trails!😀
It's not a video of this genre without a dog walking around. :)
His name is Silas😀
Thank you very much I really did appreciate this video I am in the market for a new tent and was considering the Zpacks duplex after watching some other videos almost change my mind but I have now decided I will get the duplex I just subscribed to your channel and so far I am liking your videos thank you
WOW! Thanks! I truly am so glad this video helped clear up that tough decision! You'll love your duplex. Thanks for the sub! Hike on!
Great review. I have rent envy now. I may trade in my Agnes copper spur 2. I do love the weight of the solplex, but love the room of the duplex. Thanks, hope everyone is happy and well!!!
Old Ladies Hiking North On The Appalachian Trail Hey Pacifier! Great to hear from you. So proud of what you are doing and your progress! The Duplex is totally worth it, if financially possible. The weight savings, ease of setup, tear down, and packing is really nice. HIGHLY recommend it.
Not By Sight Thanks Disciple!!!
Great video and thanks for sharing. I've been considering purchasing the duplex for a while now. Very helpful and thorough video.
Jason Sadler Hey you're welcome Jason! Glad it helped! Of all my tents the duplex is my fav! for sure😀 Hike on bro!
Thank you for this very informative review. Really perfect. Honest, detailed, clear, complete. Thanks
Grandeur Nature Hey Thank you!!! I am so glad it helped you! Very kind words😀 HIKE ON!!!
Excellent video - thanks for posting this. Helped me decide on the camo-pattern!
Your welcome! Sic tent!😀
Absolutely love this video-it’s so well thought out and the information is unique and relevant. I subscribed and am definitely about to see what other videos you’ve made.
Definitely helped me make a decision on my tent (and stakes).
Actually, now that I’m shopping, would you use the 6” blues all around or are there certain points where 7”s would be valuable?
Hey there! Thank you for the very encouraging compliment! I'm very glad that this video helped you! And thank you for subscribing hopefully there are some other reviews that will help you as well. I do have A-tent stake specific Video. As to 6" versus 7" it really depends on the soil your IN. I usually carry shepherd's hook and a couple carbon core stakes along with the blue ones. You can always use rocks and/or logs as well. Let me know if you have any other questions or if I can help in any way.😀
Not By Sight I will definitely check that out! Thanks for the response!
Funny story-I started watching your PCT series after posting that comment just to switch it up. In the very first video you you meet some hikers and do a mini interview-I about fell out of my chair, one of them was my uncle Dave! I knew he was out on the trail this year, but to randomly see him pop up on someone else’s UA-cam channel was weird to put it mildly.
Anyway, thanks again sir!
@@matthewk3228 Hey, Matthew! This is Disciple's wife. How is your uncle? I was thinking about him the other day and just happened to read through some of these comments today and saw this. Tell him hello from us!
Really nicely done. Did the Plexamid replace the Solplex? Do you have any comments on the Plexamid versus the Solplex? I really really like the Duplex but one of my reasons for switching tents is to reduce footprint....for those stealth moments or when it's crowded at the camp site!
Hey thank you! Yes the plexamid replaced the solplex I now have a plexamid and really like it. It is about 5oz. Lighter than the duplex and a bit smaller footprint. If weight is crutial then go w plexamid overall versatility the duplex is hard to beat. Hope that helps!!!
Trying to understand difference in packing size of the 3. I have a Zero backpack. Looks the same size as triplex packed!
Hey! I think zpacks lists packets size on their website, but really there is just slight difference in size on each one. I have a Nero and I sewed line locks and cord to the bottom of the back, below the mesh (like the arc blast) to strap my tent to the outside. It works fantastic! Hope that helps! Thanks for watching!
I’ve watched this video like 10 times and I still can’t decide whether or not the get the duplex or triplex. Both good choices.
Well how many people will be in it and how often? My wife and I are a bit larger than some hikers and we fit ok in duplex. We r doing about a 100 min in a week and we will be taking the trip. Much more comfy for us in trip. We can have more room to spread out gear and weight difference is minimal. Hope that helps.
That was supposed to say triplex NOT trip.😀
Not By Sight it’s for me and my girlfriend to go backpacking. She’s only 5 3, but I’m 6 2. We don’t need a lot of space, and we use smaller sleeping pads, but 45 inches across is pretty small. However, the size of the campsite required for the triplex is a concern as well. Probably gonna wait until trial days to see both tents in person.
@@Yeagizzo We measured them out on the floor and put tape down, then laid down inside the tape. The only difference is the width. If you're ultralight and minimalistic, you'll be fine with the Duplex. If you're more conventional you'll appreciate the Triplex.
Not By Sight thanks man I’m 6”2 with big feet lol didn’t want the triplex but worried about foot room in duplex!!!!
Really enjoyed your comparisons. Do you think you'd go with the Triplex if you were to thru-hike with a partner versus the Duplex? My girlfriend and I are considering pursuing a thru-hike and I've been agonizing over the Duplex versus Triplex. The Triplex footprint seems massive, but the duplex seems like it might be a little bit tight for me. I'm 6'4 and about 215. She's much smaller, but I'm not sure I'd be able to avoid my toe box rubbing against the wall and sucking up dew (which drives me nuts!). We're pretty experienced re: pitching tents and finding space, but don't have experience on the PCT/AT. Any additional thoughts? Thanks.
Hey thanks for the compliment and your sure welcome! So you are exactly right the Tri plex is huge and the duplex would be tight. With you or height I would go with the Tri plex for sure. You're toe Box will rub more often in the smaller tent. With the Tri plex you can lay at more of an angle and on the Appalachian trail condensation is a real issue. I hate my toe Box getting wet as well. Lol Let me know if you have any more questions I hope I helped some.😀
Thanks for the review. Currently torn between buying a Plexamid or a Duplex. Most of my hiking is solo but occasionally my partner comes along but she's only small stature. Thoughts currently are leaning to Plexamid and a cheapy two person for car camping and short overnight hikes.
Matt Bowen Hey Matt! The plexamid looks pretty sweet. Watch Will Wood and Zpacks new vids on the Uinta Mts of Utah. Several employees camping solo in Duplex. One, I think, is in the Plexamid to kinda further test. That duplex is HARD to beat for weight and cost w/ space and versatility. Hike on!
I too am looking at the plexamid vs the Duplex for a thru hike. I think you are suggesting that the extra space of the duplex would be more beneficial for a long distance hike over the weight savings? Thanks for the video.
Lend a thought please, at 6'3" would the duplex work ? Pls. - Thx.
The best review on zpack tents. I'm concerned with rain and wind splash back into the tent. What is your experience. I know the duplex is much used with thru hikers. But after seeing this I'm considering the solo. I'm looking to reduce my base weight. But my sleeping bag is 2lb 10oz, I know! So trying to cut back on bag and tent.
Thanks
There is a little learning curve with these tents as far as how and where to pitch them according to weather etc. I had no issues with mine or really ever heard of any issues on the trail as far as rain. The soleplex is only a consideration if 4 or 5 ounces lighter is a big deal or not. Otherwise the duplex is very nice to have more room. Only when I'm crazy ultralight do I take the soleplex. Hope that helps! Hike on!!!
Nice comparison. Love my duplex- spruce green.
Kevin S yeah, I'm a fan of both for sure! Thanks for watching!
Love seeing these videos of yours Disciple after our chance meeting on the AT! I guess a question I have is, how do these fit a taller person? With being 6'4" I need something that'll fit my frame. How do these hold up to that requirement?
I have a duplex, used it on my entire AT thru hike, I am 6'4" and the tent is perfect. I can sit up comfortably inside. I do sleep on my side and if you are a back sleeper, your feet will often rub against the sides of the tent. This is only a problem if there is some moisture on the tent walls, or if it is raining and your feet push down the bathtub floor and get some splash on your foot box. Overall, this is the best tent I have ever used, and even after my thru hike, it looks brand new. Slept in it over 100 nights.
Mark Farrar Hey, Mark! Super cool to hear from you! The only thing I can add to ER's comment is buy some Granger DWR booster to coat your sleeping bag, especially the footbox. It helps with water resistance.
Hike on, Brother!
I thinks if you into Zpacks the Altaplex would be your.I´m 1,89m ans have plenty of room.
Great video. Thinking about the Triplex in camo
Great choice! Hope you love it!
Hello Disciple, thank you for your excellent comparison video. I'm sorry you shrank by an inch :) but your height info was important for scale, as many reviewers don't lie down AND tell us their height. Did you find the extra tie out on the triplex at each end helped to extend the length compared to the duplex? Even though the specs on the zpacks website show that the only difference in size is the width, your triplex looks longer than your duplex - is that right? Thanks again.
Howdy Nadine! I believe my trip and duplex are the same length. Must be the material and optical illusion.😀 Yes I like the double toe out on the trip. In strong winds it's needed. Hope that helps. Thank you for the kind words! Hike on!
Not By Sight thank you. That's very helpful information. All the best!
Thanks for the comparison. Very helpful. In your opinion, do you think the Triplex is big enough for two people and a 60 lb. dog? Based on the video, it seems like it might be close quarters.
Glade Sowards Close quarters is kinda personal opinion. If you are used to a tiny tarpmthat you have to sleep on your side when it rains then the triple is huge. If you are used to a 6 person tent then it will seem SMALL. I think it would work pretty well on size but I am more concerned about Fido's nails on the floor. But that's w any tent. Thanks for watching,! Happy trails!
Thanks for the response. I use a Solplex regularly for solo trips, so I’m used to Zpacks’ construction and pitch. For two and a dog, I’ve been using an HMG Ultamid 2 w/ floored insert. No problems with the pup’s nails at DCF 1.1, so I’m hopeful that DCF 1.0 would be okay. I’m more concerned about there not being enough room. The Ultamid 2 insert width is 76” (16” wider than the Triplex), but the walls pitch in pretty quickly, which limits the usable width. In my experience with the Solplex, the vertical side walls make a big difference with overall livability, so I’m hopeful that the Triplex would yield similar benefits. In any case, thanks for the feedback. My guess is that I’m only going to know for sure by trying one.
awesome, best Zpack tent revue ever, thank you very much ;-)
Hey, thank you! I'm glad it helped! Happy trails!😀
what are the weights if you don't carry trekking poles?
Thanks...i just bought the duplex...can't wait to try it out...appreciate your insights...i also got the spruce green.
Oh Yeah!!! Let me know how it goes.😀 Hike on!
This vlog is very informative. Thank you
Hey you're welcome! So glad it helped!
Thanks for that review. Nicely done.
Hey you sure welcome! Thank you for the compliment and very glad it helped! Happy trails!😀
great tent very light weight long trip must have
Yes I agree! Happy trails!
Hi, can I ask when did you purchase your duplex Camo? Only asking as I have received mine two weeks ago and my inside storage pockets are on the inside entrances apposed to your head and feet end? Is mine a manufacturing defect as every video I have seen on the net are in the same position as yours head and feet ends.
DjPepelicious Definitely sounds like an email into ZPacks might be in order. I have had my Duplex since January of 2017. We received the Triplex in March of 2018 with the storage pockets at the head and feet. Hope this helps and thanks for watching!
Not By Sight thank you for taking time to reply. I have sent Zpacks an email letting them know how disappointed I am that they let this leave the workshop with no quality control, but at the same time the workmanship is second to none.. I’m sure they will be more than happy to sort it out. Thanks again for the reply and keep the vids coming.
DjPepelicious - Did you get a reply from Zpacks and what did they say? I recently ordered one, but it hasn't arrived yet and I was expecting the pockets to be at the head and feet until I read your comment. Upon further examination, Zpacks website says, "Mesh pockets are conveniently located near each screen door so that they can be accessed from inside or outside the tent." I'm curious where they are going to be when I receive my tent.
KC Cross Hi, they did get back to me. Unfortunately they are not willing to cater to my needs or should I say at the time of purchase their website clearly stated the pockets are at the foot and head ends so they should have shipped it that way. Had I placed the order after they updated their website I would understand and accept the new pocket location.
I also found some inconsistencies with their sewing of the tent. I requested a new tent and also asked if they could put the pockets at the head and foot end, upon the arrival of the new tent the pockets were sewn on the sides again.
The tent I returned had been lost or stolen and I’m chasing up a payment through the courier company.. a bit frustrating on my side as all this could have been avoided if they had sewn the whole tent perfectly and put the pockets on the head and foot end..
hopefully this made sense as I’m trying to finish up for the day haha
Thanks for getting back to me. That's too bad you are having a rough experience, I hope I have better luck. I guess I'll consider spending another $20 (even more money!!) to order two of their mesh tent pockets and install them where I want to install them. I have always preferred having pockets at my head. It would add another 8 grams to the tent, but I don't want to do too much because the entire point of this tent is the low weight.
How is setup on solid ground? Granite, for example. Thx!
Great ?! So one of the downsides to non freestanding tents is super hard surfaces. You can do it by looping your outlines around rocks and or logs but it's not as bombproof as regular stakes mostly because your trekking poles may move a little on ya. That said, I camped in rough places multiple times during my thru of the AT and it always worked ok for me. Freestanding tents def. Work better if you are on granite most of the time, but wear will be a major issue. I was able to find good campsites most of the time. Hope that helps? 😀 Thanks for watching!
What happens with a single skin when you rub up against it when its raining
I wish more backpacking/hiker youtubers would use metric measurements. I’m in Australia and we don’t use ounces here, so I watch these videos with a calculator.
Yeah, boy i don't use metric at all. Never even crossed my mind. Good idea for sure. Happy trails!😀
Thank you for the thoughtful review.
Thank you for thanking me!!! 😀
these seem like a pain to close the vestibule from the inside.. you have to loosen the guy, then clip and fasten the other door, then re-tighten the guy
Yep they take a few seconds but nit bad at all once you do they a couple times. Happy trails!!
I have heard lately that ZPacks customer service is not so great anymore plus their tents have some flaws that they aren't attending to. This has just been a few peoples opinions this year.
Yeah I've heard the same thing. But my guess is it's only a few not the majority? So far my experiences have always been positive including a couple things they warrantied from my thru-hike. Material defects not workmanship.
What do you think of the Hexamid Plus Tarp?
Friar Rodney Burnap Hello, kind Sir! I chose the Solplex over the Hexamid because of the included floor and lighter weight (considering the addition of a floor in the Hexamid). Just a little bit simpler of a total procedure with the Solplex. Hope that helps!
The video was great and you spoke well but the narration was not balanced. There are several videos detailing problems with Zpacks tents but we don't hear about any of these in your video. Overall, sounds more like a commercial than a review. Nonetheless, I appreciate you sharing your experience with your tent in your thru-hike.
Hey I'm glad you liked the video! As to the not balanced part. I didn't have any bad experiences to share. Thanks for watching and happy trails!
Thank you for the review.
You're SOOOO welcome!!! I love doing them! Thanks for watching!
Lay requires an object. One lies down. Laying down is done building sleeping down-filled bags.
Thank you for watching!
Very interesting, thanks!
You are sure welcome! Glad it helped!
Good info, thanks!
Thanks and your sure welcome!!😀 Happy Trails!!
Top notch demo!
Heavy thank you very much! I'm super glad it was helpful! Check out some of our other videos and maybe they will be some others you like as well. I'm on the PCT right now. Thanks for watching!
Good Video. Thank you.
Glad you liked it! 😀
Great review!!
Hey Thanks!!! 😂
Exellect review, did you use a ground sheet on your thru hike? Just wondering how well that floors holds up without it.
No I didn't use a ground sheet. Less to carry and worry about. The floor and all of the whole tent held up very well.
Nice, now I just need to rob a bank lol
The dog is cute.
I agree! Thanks! Happy trails!😀
Yours is the 1st I've seen that did all 3 ,,use Velcro not a zipper,,,
Hey! Hope the video helped and thanks for the great idea!
Why don’t you A Trail hikers use hammocks?
Some did. Not many, but a few. One thing is they are heavy and slow to set up. Irs hard to change clothes and dry off. My duplex is 16 ounces and I c a n pitch it in 3 minutes almost anywhere and urs roomy and private. To each their own eh!! Thanks for watching! Happy trails!!
@@NotBySight Good points. Thanks. Trying to decide whether to make the switch.
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Hey thanks!
trying to compare them to my wallet, but I can't find it. Probably sucked dry by Packs.
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I completely disagree with Zpacks being "true" about sizing...The Triplex is a wonderful 2p-shelter as the Duplex is a 1,5p tent but 3 or 2 p in the Plexs is rather ridiculous.Just because you throw in some mats doesn´t show the room feeling.Still a very good comparison.
I completely agree w you about this vid being a GREAT comparison! LOL! All I can say is we are pretty UL and while I used the duplex the whole trail my wife joined me for around 25+ nights together in it. We did very well together, keeping in mind we are talking backpacking w UL gear here, NOT a luxury car camping trip. Some sacrifices have to be made if weight is a concern. Oh and my wife and I are not small by any standards. Lol. To me the duplex and for that matter the tri also just sleep better than the inches say it should. They are "roomier" than you'd think I guess. Hope that helps! Hike on! 😀
@@NotBySight Sorry,what is "pretty UL"? Not to be misunderstood: I use the Altaplex for solo-trips and a Triplex for 2/3-season trips and can´t see why I should NOT carry 100 gr more to have a massive benefit from its extra space.I do know the Duplex quite well but there is something in UL what makes it rather ridiculous when it comes to its limits (and limitations). And if you say 100g more is luxury car camping I can´t take you serious anymore.It´s kind of typical UL-blah-blah ,isn´t it?;-)
That chewing gum in your mouth is a distraction. Maybe it was the angle of the camera. :)
Less gum next time. Gor it! Thanks for watching!😀
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