*100% best **Generater.Systems** I have used. A test for hurricane prep here in Louisiana: three AC units, 5000, 5000 & 8000, 3 fridges, 2 device power setups, 4 flat screens....AND I had 40% of the power meter to spare.*
@Lithium Solar the ecoflow river pro is an amazing power station. I use it to power large audio setups with big speakers that consume up to 1000watts. Even with x boost on it is still reliable and can power my gear sufficiently
Purchased: August 2022 - still works GREAT! ua-cam.com/users/postUgkxxsUnXhGsSJLim_XnMHyQK0u3XVaW-CGn I live in a studio and during the summer it gets scorching hot - really old building with no ac units. I can’t express how EASY it was to install.This unit has been a life savior during the summer and some days during other seasons where it can still be a bit warm at night. In this small place is my friend, a husky, poodle mix and myself. We need AC - lolI don’t use the dehumidifier option - I’m not sure if it will leak in my house, since I did not install the small draining hose that came with it. May look into it late but I don’t worry about much humidity in the apartment.I don’t understand why the negative reviews since all things mentioned, I personally did not find issues with. Definitely worth it!
Most important to know is if it has a parasitic power draw or not when stored. There were people reviewing saying that the unit lost 1% battery charge every 1.5 hours. So in a few weeks the battery is dead. Can you test to see if this is true with the new firmware? There have been conflicting stories on its self draw. Some saying it loses capacity very fast. But others saying turned off and nothing plugged in, it retained its 100% charge over a few days. A long term storage test would be awesome. Using this for emergency use is my plan but if it doesn’t keep a decent charge after being stored for months, then it’s not worth it.
Can you please confirm what the fan operation is doing when you leave the River 600 plugged in to wall current continuously in basic UPS mode please ? In other words, After the River 600 is fully charged on wall current, does the unit's fan blower run continuously, or does it eventually shut off once the built in inverter is cooled down ?
The "X-Boost" would most likely work with brush type "universal" motors, like on a "non-variable speed" plug in electric drill, angle grinder or saw, giving lower rpm if original rating was over 600 Watts, just as the fan on your heat gun continued to work. On your 450 watt air-conditioner, if you started it on "fan" then switched to A/C, would you get 100% success rate?
Thanks for the review. I've ordered this for home power outage usage. The 720Wh should extend my freezer's life for 24ish hours, and I can imagine during an extended outage going to a coffee shop for an hour to use the quick charge to recharge this battery. A 4-5 hour charge wouldn't be practical for this purpose.
Be very careful ordering from ecoflow. I made a purchase from ecoflow for what the ad said was a " delta max 2000 with 220w solar panel". The unit arrived without the solar panel. After contacting them they told me I had not ordered the solar panel. Wait...what? It said in the ad " deltamax 2000 with 220w solar panel black friday" and the picture even had the two items together. My email copy of my receipt even says deltamax 2000 with 220w solar panel. They sent me an email stating the solar panel would be an additional $1000. I've asked for a return label and they are not answering that request. Be very very careful if you choose to conduct business.
The xboost is a marketing gimmick..its a 600 watt powerstation and you should only run devices whos wattage is 600 watts and under AND as yo said you only will get about 576 watt hour out of it. If you use this device for the its real wattage it works perfectly and buy this for the FAST CHARGE feature. Others take up to 4 hours and more to recharge but Ecoflow takes about an hour. This means you can take it into a cafe, gym or library and charge it up while you are there!
Dropping the voltage would not reduce power draw when used with a modern computer power supply. Those supplies simply draw more current to make the same power with a lesser voltage.
Looking into getting one of these to power/charge some portable party speakers and dj equipment, and this rundown really helped. Thank you for the extensive testing, explanations, and rundown 🙂
I'm looking to do the same thing.. I'm curious if you found a good solution? My speakers are powered, but I mainly need to power the controller and some small lights.
@@JackSkates I'm running a pair of JBL Partybox 310 and a Denon Prime Go, all of which are battery driven on their own. With an EcoFlow River 600 Pro I can charge them all while they're still running and about to go a bit low. So depending on volume and lighting on the speakers, I can run it all for 8h. Longer with a lower volume and no lighting.
It will power a 300W load. The question is going to be what amount of current it requires during startup. If it's less than 600W, prefect! If it's more, it may start it due to the ecoboost but my personal opinion is the way it undervolts the appliance may cause it to wear out faster in the long run.
@@alondra90909 Yeah it'll run it and drain the battery in about 2.4 hours, but who knows what damage you may be doing. If it were mine and I needed a wash, I would do it.
At 1:40, you mention grounding the device. Could you explain in an example scenario/use for when we would use that? And how we would use it? I'm wondering why the grounding thing is missing from other power stations.
Here is a small tip: get yourself a led light with barn doors for on your camera. So you can light yourself and you props correctly. I think the camera or your lost process software has problems with so much highlights next to such dark object like that battery, and the also you head that's lit from the back.
I just spent $750 on a brand new camera about a month ago. I do recognize though that it has trouble particularly with dark/black-color objects. Is there any particular light you would recommend? I'm definitely interested in spending the money to improve my gear, just not sure exactly what is needed and the trial/error approach gets expensive fast!
@@LithiumSolar You can buy a 5000 dollar Canon DX1x and still have the same problems. Any ledpanel can function as key light. It would be great if you can adjust the brightness and has a 5500 kelvin temp. Other then that, it's up to you and you can make it as expensive as you want.
Something that I don’t often see you comment on or mention is the support for manufacturers. I was looking at the EcoFlow products when they first hit the market. I saw a lot of complaints on horrible customer support, obscenely late/missed delivery time (often around the 6 month range across all products) and unsupported warranty repairs. Of course no company can continue with this kind of feedback and hope to stay in business; and perhaps they have gotten much better. But these kinds of issues are relevant to consumers on product like this. The throttling of the voltage could be seriously detrimental to appliances like refrigerators and such I would think. Especially with prolonged usage.
Would be great to meashure the AC surge at start cause the amazon website said 1200 W surge so it should work I guess unless you measure a higher wattage in the first second starting the compressor. This is important for any outdoor and RV use where you might need to power a fridge nowadays cause pure electric fridges are a lot cheaper than the typical 3 way operateable RV fridges (gas + 12V + 110V / 230 V) Those devices make only sense if you exactly know what devices should be powered with for how long today, tomorrow and in the future cause otherwise you will run out of power in the wort moment. Battery size is not the most important piece as long you can add additional batteries. But inverter is important and for sure solar input cause 2 modules on a RV with up to 380 V is nothing special just 200$ and same for your barn where you might wanna connect those 2 modules with this unit to power through the night ... A bit more of everything would be great ... and funny to see a NON BLUETTI poweroak thing this time cause I hate those whille they did not deliver as promised, a lot less Ah and other specs that were wrong in the display for example a 12W LED lightbulb. The bluetti had shown 0 W consumption but the bulb was fully on. Added a water heater rated 750 W and the bluetti should run 1000 W permanent but guess what happened with heater on? the bulb went crazy and started to flicker ... Luckily an amazon purchase and the whole heavy device went back with a strong complain how Amazon could offer such unreliable device ... I would really recommand to measure all the specs cause the manufacturers try to fool us and use your very strong reputation as major sales argument ... cause you open the doors for them to us , manufacturers and products we usually would never have thought about. I can not judge it, but I am so annoyed how many youtubers had "sold" the bluetti poweroask to their viewers while those devices had issues from delivery on. I am lucky, I got my money back but was disappointed and told all reviewers not to become a sales agent . Thx for showing it ...
Awesome review! Wondered if the river pro can be charged with 2 100w 12v solar panels? If so which wiring route? Parallel or series? I know you mentioned parallel. I saw on the specs the solar input can only be 12amp max input. Two 100w 12v solar panels would be around 16amps. And if in series the volts would be 24volts from the two panels. Would like to clarify which would work to use both panels? Thanks Chandler
Don't know if you've gotten your answer or not but as far as amps... Overvoltage is a problem over current/amps is not. the unit will only draw what it needs
It only accepts 200 W of solar. Voltage must be between 10-25V. Maximum allowed is 10 A. The manual says *don't* use solar panel in series. Use only in parallel.
I wouldn't recommend using this for a full-size refrigerator because of how it handles overloading by reducing voltage. In my opinion, starving a starting compressor is no good.
@@LithiumSolar Thanks, I ended up getting an ecoflow delta mini. Has better surge watt rating, should be able to handle my fridge better... Amazon Prime had a good deal for $640
I have the river two. it has two batteries . I have never really tested. we have a pretty good light company. but i'M TALKING. THE LIGHTS ARE FLICKERING.
Yes. This device actually functions as an entry-grade UPS. So if you're charging/using and the power goes out. it switches over to battery automatically :)
Yes! There is an option to turn off the beeping sounds. There is also an option called "quiet charging" which will reduce fan speed (and charging speed) if noise is a concern.
This is the best explanation of the Xboost feature I've seen yet, I'm not VERY glad I didn't buy this unit. That feature was the only reason I was going to buy it, but for my use case, that would have destroyed several of the things I wanted to run.
What did you think it was doing? You can put together a solar system for the same money and get more capacity per dollar (even with the price of an inverter thrown in), but it won't be portable.
Thanks for the great review! I wanted to know if the AC output was 3-prong and you inadvertently told me yes by plugging in your killawatt at 3:30 !!! Thanks!!!
Why do they use the XT60 connector for charging the unit?? Not standard on many Solar Panels. Even the “converter” cable that comes with it is impossible to find. Major negative point.
Question? I have the ecoflow rIver pro and the expansion battery. bought them without the expansion cable. It is not a delta cable... might you by chance know if the pinout on the river cable is a straight or twisted pair configuration? so i can build my own cable.
Teardown, pls! What kind of cells and what is a pack configuration? Looks pretty resonable priced for me. Big Thumb up for xt-60. I wish they will use a xt-30-90 for additional pack as well, not a propreitary connector...
trying to use this as an emergency backup for an aquarium running pumps and lights etc. I tested it and it ran it at 130 w. without the oower cord plugged in. Can I leave the power cord in when it is at 100% or should I unplug it when it's at full battery capacity? If power goes out, I want the River Pro to kick in. Thanks.
Per the manual, it will operate as an entry-level UPS. So yes, it would be fine to leave it plugged in and it will pass power through while running on grid, then when power is lost, it will automatically switch to battery.
The manufacturer's website indicates it has a max input of 200W and you can connect two sets of 110W panels (220W total). I don't know what would happen if you try connecting more - I don't want to try it and ruin mine. I would ask them and see what they say before trying.
What would you expect to happen if your plugged a refrigerator into this unit? Do you think it could handle that surge and then run it for a short period? I'm sure it would run a 12v fridge quite well.
Probably not. This has a 600W inverter. Of course, your PA might never exceed that. You would really have to test it with a Kill-a-watt meter or similar to see how much power it's actually using.
On AC 720Wh/600W charging = 1 hour and 15 minutes. Using 100W solar panel: 720Wh/100W = 7.2 hours of noon time light or about 2 days. With 200W solar panel, about a full day.
No. In my testing, it did eventually start the 5000BTU window AC, but it didn't sound very good and think either the compressor or the power station inverter would fail after a few starts.
I did not get the solar charging cable with mine (received 12/22). I tried using a solar charging cable that came with my Bluetti ac200p but the xt60 was too big to fit into the solar charging port. Can you help?
You explain very well and do some real world tests and examples that I like very much. I don't like that the charge port is open when you connect the solar panel. This means water and dust can enter when you leave them to charge for hours and that can make your life difficult at some point.
If you wanted to solve the transfer time in UPS mode you could plug a standard computer UPS into it so you could have the quick change of the standard UPS and a longer run time with this unit. Not sure if the regular UPS would trigger based on the unit's output in battery mode though.
I would like a tear down video. Only complaint on this review, is at the beginning you said the battery is 700W lithium Ion pack with 18650 cells. It is Watt hour. You said it correctly later in the video. Then further into the description, you said it has a 720Wh LiIon pack. Remember
Yeah, I did catch that during editing but to go back and re-film that segment just to add "hour"... Thanks for the feedback though :) I try to do this between full-time job and family care, sometimes things get rushed a bit no matter how hard I try to remain on-task.
Please can you tell me if the unit shows any load with the ac sockets turned on and nothing plugged in? I know the Delta Pro invertor seems to pull around 40w when not in use I assume this smaller unit the draw would be less. The Delta Pro show no load but 40W input watts with a full battery. I need to power a low wattage load for a long time so invertor power draw is important. Thanks
The reason why they were so eager for you to try is called data collection. Hopefully known of these companies want you to use their product without the app so they can track everything and how you use the device. How it's not even about selling you the power. It's about the data that they can sell from you using the app. The more you can recommend this product the more people will buy it and the more data and information they can sell to advertisers which in turns makes them more money.
Does this unit have the "automatic restart" feature? Meaning that it will switch from battery power back to permanent power once the electricity is restored? Or do you need to be home and manually press a button to do this reset?
Hi mine just have a problem and been looking for the answer for days. Each time i tried to use the DC it will show car overload sign even if there is anything attach. Is there a way to reset this?
If only the extra battery had a better design. Really don’t like how the plug is on top and they can’t be stacked together. Otherwise, this almost beats all of its competitor, IMO.
It was filmed the second week of March. We had great weather for my location (it's winter here), and will be having the same weather again next week :)
Thanks for the review. Have you tested the efficiency of the unit? I have a River Pro + extra battery (1440wh total), I tried it with a 8w LED bulb ran for 12 hours (8w X 12 hrs = 96wh), however the unit shows 83% energy left (245wh consumed). I am wondering if anyone else is getting the same poor efficiency?
Assuming you were connecting to the AC outlets, what you are seeing is not poor efficiency, but overhead. All inverters require power for the circuit itself; you'll see this in the idle current. The River Pro draws about 10w idle. So adding 120 watts to the calculated 96 watts of your light, that's 216 watts, which is about what you see. All inverters reach peak efficiency when the load is around 30%. Most inverters are above 95% efficiency between ~12% and 70% of rated capacity. I have 2 River Pros and the extra battery, I like them. But for very small loads that need to run a long time, I use DC.
@@greatguy4076 lol you bought two, after whining and moaning that you can't use the Xboost "without internet". I guess you finally figured out you were wrong? ua-cam.com/video/b5QblSX11Wk/v-deo.html
Great review, cleared up some things for me that I was unsure about such as the voltage drop under resistive loads. Would you recommend this product? It sounds like it.
@@paulsingh9043 Will Prowse didn't test this unit. He tested the R600, which is an older version. This unit has corrected a lot of the issues pointed out by Will. I still wish it had LiFePO4 batteries though.
@@A12Diary Li (polymer) ion is lighter, but 1000-2000 charge-discharge cycles). LiFePO4 has a longer life of cycling( like 4000-5000). There are several kinds of Li ion battery chemistries.
I recently received the pro + battery. Its taking me a fair amount of force/wiggling to plug the "connector" cord into the main unit(no issue on spare battery). It's to the point I'm worried I could break the connection port on the unit, and my wife isn't comfortable trying to plug it in. Ecoflow sent a second cord, but issue remains. Wondering if this is the norm others have experienced or if my main unit has a bad/misaligned connection port? Thanks
Another question please I connected both of the batteries with the inverter to the 110-120 volt plug to a small refrigerator (set at 37F degrees) that when on (it cycles on and off) it uses about 45 watts. I used a kilowatt device to measure the wattage over a 24 hour period. It said I used .27 kilowatts or 270 watts over a 24 hour period. The 2 batteries were at 86% when I started and after the 24 hour period it was reading 47%, so that is 39% of the two batteries. So if both units are 700 watts that's 1400 watts minus about 15% for actual usable watts that leaves 1190 watts I used about 464 watts or 39% of the 1190 watts (86% to 47%). Or I'm I ducting the 15% which is accounting for the inverter already? But the 24 hour watt measurement was .27 kilowatts or 270 watts. So where did the other 194 watts go (464 watts minus 270 watts)? Can that be all because of the inverter? That seems alot. It means if plugged into the wall it would have used only 270 watts but plugged into the 2 ecoflows it needed 42% more energy the 464 watts? I must be close using the 2 batteries actual power about 1190 watts and I used 39% of that. Lastly, I have now connected the batteries that are now at 47% to the 12 volt output on this same small 12 volt refrigerator. I would imagine that the 12 volt during the same period would use much less wattage since their is no inverter that is working, correct? And how much less do you think it might be?
I did a 24 hour test with the 12 volt it used 26% of the two batteries or 309.4 wats in 24 hours. So in using the same .27 or 270 watts with the AC (kilowatt) the inverter used 39% or 464 watts (a loss of 42% verses the same 24 hours the 12 volt it used 309.4 watts or 26 % , or a loss of only 13%. It proves that the 12 volt (if given a choice) is the only way to go.
Not well-versed in electrical things ... want to run a pitching machine that requires "generator capable of providing clean electricity 1000 watts at 120 volts 60hz" ... would this battery work?
Nice review, thank you. When I charge my Eco Flow Pro to 50%, it discharges itself in a day to 0%, although there is no load. That seems wrong to me, could you think why this happens? Thanks.
How long did it take for our 100 water solar panel to charge it. Also You mentioned it only charging at 12 volts but never confirmed in the video, but I swear another reviewer had it charging off a 300 watt panel at 24v (it throttled it down to 200 watts anyway)
I bought one of these and was a bit disappointed in it's 12V output capabilities. It will not operate my 120W 12V popout slide. It drops the voltage to a point the motor stops. I have 2 other smaller power supplies that work the slide without fail. I tried everything and it just trips the motor breaker. Great for 110V but again, at high wattage draw, it drops voltage to accommodate which can be harmful, especially to sensitive equipment.
They claim it's 13.60V. My meter shows 13.58V. The battery is 28.8V nominal, so it has to be going through a converter somewhere. I did not validate it at different levels of SOC though.
@@LithiumSolar I would not make the mistake of accepting the manufacturers claim of it being a regulated port. No disrespect but the video was more of an promotional advertisement than a review.
@@JohnSmith-ug5ci If the battery has a nominal voltage of 28.8 V, the the measured output of the 12V socket is 13.58V, then it's running through a buck converter, and will be pretty well regulated, up to it's maximum current.
Thanks for review! Regarding this power station built-in battery, power source : any idea if Pro's BMS keeps all in-parallel groups of cells in serial connection always in balance concerning cells health condition? Only always balanced cells make max possible lifespan possible, among prerequisites other kinds.
*100% best **Generater.Systems** I have used. A test for hurricane prep here in Louisiana: three AC units, 5000, 5000 & 8000, 3 fridges, 2 device power setups, 4 flat screens....AND I had 40% of the power meter to spare.*
I don't know. An electrician would be able to give you a quote :)
@Lithium Solar the ecoflow river pro is an amazing power station. I use it to power large audio setups with big speakers that consume up to 1000watts. Even with x boost on it is still reliable and can power my gear sufficiently
Purchased: August 2022 - still works GREAT! ua-cam.com/users/postUgkxxsUnXhGsSJLim_XnMHyQK0u3XVaW-CGn I live in a studio and during the summer it gets scorching hot - really old building with no ac units. I can’t express how EASY it was to install.This unit has been a life savior during the summer and some days during other seasons where it can still be a bit warm at night. In this small place is my friend, a husky, poodle mix and myself. We need AC - lolI don’t use the dehumidifier option - I’m not sure if it will leak in my house, since I did not install the small draining hose that came with it. May look into it late but I don’t worry about much humidity in the apartment.I don’t understand why the negative reviews since all things mentioned, I personally did not find issues with. Definitely worth it!
Most important to know is if it has a parasitic power draw or not when stored. There were people reviewing saying that the unit lost 1% battery charge every 1.5 hours. So in a few weeks the battery is dead. Can you test to see if this is true with the new firmware? There have been conflicting stories on its self draw. Some saying it loses capacity very fast. But others saying turned off and nothing plugged in, it retained its 100% charge over a few days. A long term storage test would be awesome. Using this for emergency use is my plan but if it doesn’t keep a decent charge after being stored for months, then it’s not worth it.
If anyone is wanting one of these. Costco has the generator and spare battery combo on sale for $699 w/free shipping. Sale goes till 6/20/21
Must have lucked out can't find anywhere near me
You can go on their website and order it from there. They still have them. I got the 160w panel, and the combo kit for about $1000.
@@RentedBlackbird All I can find Delta version and solor panels. Maybe they don't have them in my area, thank you for the suggestion.
@@d_silent_1292 no problem!
Can you please confirm what the fan operation is doing when you leave the River 600 plugged in to wall current continuously in basic UPS mode please ? In other words, After the River 600 is fully charged on wall current, does the unit's fan blower run continuously, or does it eventually shut off once the built in inverter is cooled down ?
In my case,the internal ventilation stops when cooled down,and runs when you apply something that needs AC
I love the quick charging capability of the River Pro. Fully charged in less than two hours.
The "X-Boost" would most likely work with brush type "universal" motors, like on a "non-variable speed" plug in electric drill, angle grinder or saw, giving lower rpm if original rating was over 600 Watts, just as the fan on your heat gun continued to work. On your 450 watt air-conditioner, if you started it on "fan" then switched to A/C, would you get 100% success rate?
Thanks for the review. I've ordered this for home power outage usage. The 720Wh should extend my freezer's life for 24ish hours, and I can imagine during an extended outage going to a coffee shop for an hour to use the quick charge to recharge this battery. A 4-5 hour charge wouldn't be practical for this purpose.
Be very careful ordering from ecoflow. I made a purchase from ecoflow for what the ad said was a " delta max 2000 with 220w solar panel". The unit arrived without the solar panel. After contacting them they told me I had not ordered the solar panel. Wait...what? It said in the ad " deltamax 2000 with 220w solar panel black friday" and the picture even had the two items together. My email copy of my receipt even says deltamax 2000 with 220w solar panel. They sent me an email stating the solar panel would be an additional $1000.
I've asked for a return label and they are not answering that request. Be very very careful if you choose to conduct business.
Nice review thanks.
I'm surprised that none of them use a transflective display as they are mostly used outside
The xboost is a marketing gimmick..its a 600 watt powerstation and you should only run devices whos wattage is 600 watts and under AND as yo said you only will get about 576 watt hour out of it. If you use this device for the its real wattage it works perfectly and buy this for the FAST CHARGE feature. Others take up to 4 hours and more to recharge but Ecoflow takes about an hour. This means you can take it into a cafe, gym or library and charge it up while you are there!
I already use the River Pro for my CPAP machine. Works really great.
which one. I need for CPAP too. I even have the ResMed 12vdc convertor that will work in the cigarette lighter plug. More efficient that way.
Can it serve you for at least 2 nights?
Dropping the voltage would not reduce power draw when used with a modern computer power supply. Those supplies simply draw more current to make the same power with a lesser voltage.
Looking into getting one of these to power/charge some portable party speakers and dj equipment, and this rundown really helped. Thank you for the extensive testing, explanations, and rundown 🙂
I'm looking to do the same thing.. I'm curious if you found a good solution? My speakers are powered, but I mainly need to power the controller and some small lights.
@@JackSkates I'm running a pair of JBL Partybox 310 and a Denon Prime Go, all of which are battery driven on their own. With an EcoFlow River 600 Pro I can charge them all while they're still running and about to go a bit low. So depending on volume and lighting on the speakers, I can run it all for 8h. Longer with a lower volume and no lighting.
can i power a Giantex Portable Mini Compact Twin Tub Washing Machine 300 watts?
It will power a 300W load. The question is going to be what amount of current it requires during startup. If it's less than 600W, prefect! If it's more, it may start it due to the ecoboost but my personal opinion is the way it undervolts the appliance may cause it to wear out faster in the long run.
@@LithiumSolar Ok. thank you so much for your detailed reply I truly appreciate it.
@@alondra90909 Yeah it'll run it and drain the battery in about 2.4 hours, but who knows what damage you may be doing. If it were mine and I needed a wash, I would do it.
@@jeffsmith3350 Thank you so much for your response.
I also really like the fact that this unit is expandable with the addition of other unit.
Can I use this to power a portable PA system outdoors, for example at a wedding ceremony?
I own a river pro, you certainly can as long as it's 12vDC or 120v AC and under 600w, which I suspect it may be.
At 1:40, you mention grounding the device. Could you explain in an example scenario/use for when we would use that? And how we would use it? I'm wondering why the grounding thing is missing from other power stations.
Grounding things allows the current to travel directly to the ground if there is a fault, preventing potential equipment damage and personally injury.
Here is a small tip: get yourself a led light with barn doors for on your camera. So you can light yourself and you props correctly. I think the camera or your lost process software has problems with so much highlights next to such dark object like that battery, and the also you head that's lit from the back.
I just spent $750 on a brand new camera about a month ago. I do recognize though that it has trouble particularly with dark/black-color objects. Is there any particular light you would recommend? I'm definitely interested in spending the money to improve my gear, just not sure exactly what is needed and the trial/error approach gets expensive fast!
@@LithiumSolar You can buy a 5000 dollar Canon DX1x and still have the same problems.
Any ledpanel can function as key light. It would be great if you can adjust the brightness and has a 5500 kelvin temp. Other then that, it's up to you and you can make it as expensive as you want.
Something that I don’t often see you comment on or mention is the support for manufacturers. I was looking at the EcoFlow products when they first hit the market. I saw a lot of complaints on horrible customer support, obscenely late/missed delivery time (often around the 6 month range across all products) and unsupported warranty repairs. Of course no company can continue with this kind of feedback and hope to stay in business; and perhaps they have gotten much better. But these kinds of issues are relevant to consumers on product like this. The throttling of the voltage could be seriously detrimental to appliances like refrigerators and such I would think. Especially with prolonged usage.
I've dealt with them and they have replied within 24 hours every single time. I've been happy with their products.
@@USNEM thank you for the updated experience Steven. Was this for tech support or a warranty repair/replacement?
I dealt with them quite a bit. Excellent.
I was just looking at these. Thanks for the review.
I own a pro and love it, very cool and feature packed.
Can you tell me what features you can NOT use if I don't have internet or wifi?
Sir how to setup EcoFlow river Pro from 50hz to 60hz?
I think there was a setting in the app where you could change this. I don't recall though - it's been a while.
The ecoflow solar generators are the best by a long shot. Especially the Pro and 2 versions- best battery technology for long battery life.
The option for an extra battery is a godsend for me. That's the reason I got the River Pro.
HI, RECEIVED MINE TODAY . HAD 31 PERCENT AND HOUR 25 MIN 100 PERCENT WALL PLUG.
Ordered mine 30 minutes ago. Can't wait to use it
But there are no LiFePO4 cells installed, because they can handle approx. 3500 charging cycles (80%).
Is Life PO4 better for power stations ?
@@A12Diary
Yes.
Would be great to meashure the AC surge at start cause the amazon website said 1200 W surge so it should work I guess unless you measure a higher wattage in the first second starting the compressor.
This is important for any outdoor and RV use where you might need to power a fridge nowadays cause pure electric fridges are a lot cheaper than the typical 3 way operateable RV fridges (gas + 12V + 110V / 230 V)
Those devices make only sense if you exactly know what devices should be powered with for how long today, tomorrow and in the future cause otherwise you will run out of power in the wort moment.
Battery size is not the most important piece as long you can add additional batteries. But inverter is important and for sure solar input cause 2 modules on a RV with up to 380 V is nothing special just 200$ and same for your barn where you might wanna connect those 2 modules with this unit to power through the night ...
A bit more of everything would be great ... and funny to see a NON BLUETTI poweroak thing this time cause I hate those whille they did not deliver as promised, a lot less Ah and other specs that were wrong in the display for example a 12W LED lightbulb. The bluetti had shown 0 W consumption but the bulb was fully on. Added a water heater rated 750 W and the bluetti should run 1000 W permanent but guess what happened with heater on?
the bulb went crazy and started to flicker ...
Luckily an amazon purchase and the whole heavy device went back with a strong complain how Amazon could offer such unreliable device ...
I would really recommand to measure all the specs cause the manufacturers try to fool us and use your very strong reputation as major sales argument ... cause you open the doors for them to us , manufacturers and products we usually would never have thought about.
I can not judge it, but I am so annoyed how many youtubers had "sold" the bluetti poweroask to their viewers while those devices had issues from delivery on. I am lucky, I got my money back but was disappointed and told all reviewers not to become a sales agent .
Thx for showing it ...
Can you charge this one through a solar panel ?
Awesome review!
Wondered if the river pro can be charged with 2 100w 12v solar panels? If so which wiring route? Parallel or series? I know you mentioned parallel.
I saw on the specs the solar input can only be 12amp max input. Two 100w 12v solar panels would be around 16amps. And if in series the volts would be 24volts from the two panels. Would like to clarify which would work to use both panels?
Thanks
Chandler
Don't know if you've gotten your answer or not but as far as amps... Overvoltage is a problem over current/amps is not. the unit will only draw what it needs
It only accepts 200 W of solar. Voltage must be between 10-25V. Maximum allowed is 10 A. The manual says *don't* use solar panel in series. Use only in parallel.
I'm wondering if and how long could power a full size refrigerator...
I wouldn't recommend using this for a full-size refrigerator because of how it handles overloading by reducing voltage. In my opinion, starving a starting compressor is no good.
@@LithiumSolar Thanks, I ended up getting an ecoflow delta mini. Has better surge watt rating, should be able to handle my fridge better... Amazon Prime had a good deal for $640
I have the river two. it has two batteries . I have never really tested. we have a pretty good light company. but i'M TALKING. THE LIGHTS ARE FLICKERING.
Can you charge AND discharge (use the AC outlets) at the same time?
Yes. This device actually functions as an entry-grade UPS. So if you're charging/using and the power goes out. it switches over to battery automatically :)
Hi, Great video, Are you able to turn the beep off through the app?
Yes! There is an option to turn off the beeping sounds. There is also an option called "quiet charging" which will reduce fan speed (and charging speed) if noise is a concern.
Thanks for your response, Awesome it made it to production, I gave them that suggestion a few months ago.
Does it have the 720 wh?
This is the best explanation of the Xboost feature I've seen yet, I'm not VERY glad I didn't buy this unit. That feature was the only reason I was going to buy it, but for my use case, that would have destroyed several of the things I wanted to run.
What did you think it was doing? You can put together a solar system for the same money and get more capacity per dollar (even with the price of an inverter thrown in), but it won't be portable.
Thanks for the great review! I wanted to know if the AC output was 3-prong and you inadvertently told me yes by plugging in your killawatt at 3:30 !!! Thanks!!!
Please keep in mind that, while it does accept 3-prong plugs, the ground pin is NOT actually connected to anything inside the Ecoflow.
Hi nice review , Does this have an app so I can control it and update the firmware ?
Yes, the app can control it and does have functionality to update firmware.
Why do they use the XT60 connector for charging the unit?? Not standard on many Solar Panels. Even the “converter” cable that comes with it is impossible to find.
Major negative point.
If you were to use this as a ups would you recommend only setting max charge to 80% or lower ?
Question? I have the ecoflow rIver pro and the expansion battery. bought them without the expansion cable. It is not a delta cable... might you by chance know if the pinout on the river cable is a straight or twisted pair configuration? so i can build my own cable.
Teardown, pls! What kind of cells and what is a pack configuration? Looks pretty resonable priced for me. Big Thumb up for xt-60. I wish they will use a xt-30-90 for additional pack as well, not a propreitary connector...
trying to use this as an emergency backup for an aquarium running pumps and lights etc. I tested it and it ran it at 130 w. without the oower cord plugged in. Can I leave the power cord in when it is at 100% or should I unplug it when it's at full battery capacity? If power goes out, I want the River Pro to kick in. Thanks.
Per the manual, it will operate as an entry-level UPS. So yes, it would be fine to leave it plugged in and it will pass power through while running on grid, then when power is lost, it will automatically switch to battery.
What happens if you feed the unit more than 200 watts of solar? Does it just trip a breaker, or does the unit simply ignore anything more than 200?
The manufacturer's website indicates it has a max input of 200W and you can connect two sets of 110W panels (220W total). I don't know what would happen if you try connecting more - I don't want to try it and ruin mine. I would ask them and see what they say before trying.
I so confused not that smart i guess what CANT I plug in to this thing ? I received it today, I dont want to break anything?
Can this unit be used for "jump starting" a four cylinder Toyota plugging into cigarette lighter or other wise? Thank you.
No, it doesn't have any sort of functionality like that. Maybe you could find an AC battery charger or something, but wouldn't do that out of the box.
What would you expect to happen if your plugged a refrigerator into this unit? Do you think it could handle that surge and then run it for a short period? I'm sure it would run a 12v fridge quite well.
Some others reviews I've seeing people saying wil last most likely 2 days running a small refrigerator
Would this work to power a 1200 watt pa system (2 unpowered speakers and a mixer) outdoors for 1.5 to 2 hours?
Probably not. This has a 600W inverter. Of course, your PA might never exceed that. You would really have to test it with a Kill-a-watt meter or similar to see how much power it's actually using.
So, not sure if I'm clear. Can I use this to charge my laptop?
Yes, you can use it to charge your laptop
If that is a retail model you are reviewing, inside you will find that the LiFePO4 cells are non-existent.
I haven't done a teardown yet to actually see what's inside. Thanks for the reminder, will hopefully have time in a couple of weeks.
Great review...perfect amount of technical issues covered.
Thanks 😊 so much for the review! But did you say how long/hours it takes to fully charge with the solar panel?
On AC 720Wh/600W charging = 1 hour and 15 minutes. Using 100W solar panel: 720Wh/100W = 7.2 hours of noon time light or about 2 days. With 200W solar panel, about a full day.
Do you think I could power a small 5000btu energy star window AC unit with this?
No. In my testing, it did eventually start the 5000BTU window AC, but it didn't sound very good and think either the compressor or the power station inverter would fail after a few starts.
I did not get the solar charging cable with mine (received 12/22). I tried using a solar charging cable that came with my Bluetti ac200p but the xt60 was too big to fit into the solar charging port. Can you help?
Did you tried it with a CPAP ?
Great review of the River Pro. I will be considering this on my power station list.
can the wireless be disabled?
Hmm. Good question. I'm gonna see if I can.
Did you test the UPS with a wattmeter at both the input and the output? Did they show different numbers?
No I did not, but seeing identical number would imply 100% efficiency (not possible) or relays switching (not the case here).
You explain very well and do some real world tests and examples that I like very much. I don't like that the charge port is open when you connect the solar panel. This means water and dust can enter when you leave them to charge for hours and that can make your life difficult at some point.
Or get a mini tent 🏕 for it while it’s in use
yes
If you wanted to solve the transfer time in UPS mode you could plug a standard computer UPS into it so you could have the quick change of the standard UPS and a longer run time with this unit. Not sure if the regular UPS would trigger based on the unit's output in battery mode though.
Haha we found the engineer :p I'm one myself, and this never occurred to me.
Ecoflow advertised AC output 1800 Pure Sine. The battery is unable to power 1400 microwave. See the proof: ua-cam.com/video/7w7WXJK6OZA/v-deo.html
Thank youYou explain things so clearly. I appreciate that
I just saw a big battery commercial at the beginning of this video
Haha. I may or may not have something of theirs coming soon ;) :) !
I would like a tear down video.
Only complaint on this review, is at the beginning you said the battery is 700W lithium Ion pack with 18650 cells.
It is Watt hour. You said it correctly later in the video.
Then further into the description, you said it has a 720Wh LiIon pack.
Remember
Yeah, I did catch that during editing but to go back and re-film that segment just to add "hour"... Thanks for the feedback though :) I try to do this between full-time job and family care, sometimes things get rushed a bit no matter how hard I try to remain on-task.
@@LithiumSolar You have a perfect delivery method. very informative, no fluff.
Just wished they used LifePO4 batteries. Short cycle life on Ecoflows
I agree...!
Please can you tell me if the unit shows any load with the ac sockets turned on and nothing plugged in? I know the Delta Pro invertor seems to pull around 40w when not in use I assume this smaller unit the draw would be less. The Delta Pro show no load but 40W input watts with a full battery. I need to power a low wattage load for a long time so invertor power draw is important. Thanks
What happened to your tear down video that you promised?
It's right here ua-cam.com/video/sDb0BaJ3NRQ/v-deo.html :)
The reason why they were so eager for you to try is called data collection. Hopefully known of these companies want you to use their product without the app so they can track everything and how you use the device. How it's not even about selling you the power. It's about the data that they can sell from you using the app. The more you can recommend this product the more people will buy it and the more data and information they can sell to advertisers which in turns makes them more money.
Does this unit have the "automatic restart" feature? Meaning that it will switch from battery power back to permanent power once the electricity is restored? Or do you need to be home and manually press a button to do this reset?
Tear down please. Thanks.
Hi mine just have a problem and been looking for the answer for days. Each time i tried to use the DC it will show car overload sign even if there is anything attach. Is there a way to reset this?
Will it works as a backup battery for sum pump. I’m talking about the regular residential use sumpump by everbuilt?
If only the extra battery had a better design. Really don’t like how the plug is on top and they can’t be stacked together. Otherwise, this almost beats all of its competitor, IMO.
hi Thanks for the video.I have a 100 watt solar panel at 19 volts will that work ?
How would this do recharging a 750w 48v 12.8 a Ebike ?
Dude,,,,you're Einstein,,,,👍🤪👍🤪👍 GREAT review. 👍👍👍😎
Just curious what month this video was recorded. It looks like this was done last summer or was it just a particularly warm winter day?
There were few days over 60 degree prior to the this video posted in north east. Unit price now in Amazon is $550 after $100 coupon code
It was filmed the second week of March. We had great weather for my location (it's winter here), and will be having the same weather again next week :)
Thanks for the review. Have you tested the efficiency of the unit? I have a River Pro + extra battery (1440wh total), I tried it with a 8w LED bulb ran for 12 hours (8w X 12 hrs = 96wh), however the unit shows 83% energy left (245wh consumed). I am wondering if anyone else is getting the same poor efficiency?
Assuming you were connecting to the AC outlets, what you are seeing is not poor efficiency, but overhead. All inverters require power for the circuit itself; you'll see this in the idle current. The River Pro draws about 10w idle. So adding 120 watts to the calculated 96 watts of your light, that's 216 watts, which is about what you see. All inverters reach peak efficiency when the load is around 30%. Most inverters are above 95% efficiency between ~12% and 70% of rated capacity. I have 2 River Pros and the extra battery, I like them. But for very small loads that need to run a long time, I use DC.
@@greatguy4076 lol you bought two, after whining and moaning that you can't use the Xboost "without internet". I guess you finally figured out you were wrong? ua-cam.com/video/b5QblSX11Wk/v-deo.html
So how long does this unit generally last running maybe a 500 watt device?
Does the AC start better with with xboost on? . Because without xboost it didn't make a good starting noise.
As of April 2022, Costco has them on a "road show" for $439 which makes it a no brainer.
Great review, cleared up some things for me that I was unsure about such as the voltage drop under resistive loads. Would you recommend this product? It sounds like it.
Check out will prowse’s thoughts on this unit , you might think twice before buying 👍🏾
@@paulsingh9043 Will Prowse didn't test this unit. He tested the R600, which is an older version. This unit has corrected a lot of the issues pointed out by Will. I still wish it had LiFePO4 batteries though.
@@scottschermerhorn7040
Does PO4 have an advantage over other battery types?
@@A12Diary Li (polymer) ion is lighter, but 1000-2000 charge-discharge cycles). LiFePO4 has a longer life of cycling( like 4000-5000). There are several kinds of Li ion battery chemistries.
If I wanted to add a fixed solar panel on my roof of my van to charge it, you wouldn’t happen to know what solar panel to recommend?
I couldn’t decide on this or the Bluetti’ so this video has helped so much! Thanks for sharing! 😊
I recently received the pro + battery. Its taking me a fair amount of force/wiggling to plug the "connector" cord into the main unit(no issue on spare battery). It's to the point I'm worried I could break the connection port on the unit, and my wife isn't comfortable trying to plug it in. Ecoflow sent a second cord, but issue remains. Wondering if this is the norm others have experienced or if my main unit has a bad/misaligned connection port? Thanks
anyone tried to charge it with car? how long it takes ,if its practical for overlanding
Very nice detailed review
Another question please
I connected both of the batteries with the inverter to the 110-120 volt plug to a small refrigerator (set at 37F degrees) that when on (it cycles on and off) it uses about 45 watts.
I used a kilowatt device to measure the wattage over a 24 hour period. It said I used .27 kilowatts or 270 watts over a 24 hour period.
The 2 batteries were at 86% when I started and after the 24 hour period it was reading 47%, so that is 39% of the two batteries.
So if both units are 700 watts that's 1400 watts minus about 15% for actual usable watts that leaves 1190 watts I used about 464 watts or 39% of the 1190 watts (86% to 47%). Or I'm I ducting the 15% which is accounting for the inverter already?
But the 24 hour watt measurement was .27 kilowatts or 270 watts. So where did the other 194 watts go (464 watts minus 270 watts)?
Can that be all because of the inverter? That seems alot.
It means if plugged into the wall it would have used only 270 watts but plugged into the 2 ecoflows it needed 42% more energy the 464 watts?
I must be close using the 2 batteries actual power about 1190 watts and I used 39% of that.
Lastly,
I have now connected the batteries that are now at 47% to the 12 volt output on this same small 12 volt refrigerator.
I would imagine that the 12 volt during the same period would use much less wattage since their is no inverter that is working, correct?
And how much less do you think it might be?
I did a 24 hour test with the 12 volt it used 26% of the two batteries or 309.4 wats in 24 hours.
So in using the same .27 or 270 watts with the AC (kilowatt) the inverter used 39% or 464 watts (a loss of 42% verses the same 24 hours the 12 volt it used 309.4 watts or 26 % , or a loss of only 13%.
It proves that the 12 volt (if given a choice) is the only way to go.
Can this power source keep power to a tww45 Bodega refrigerator/ freezer
Not well-versed in electrical things ... want to run a pitching machine that requires "generator capable of providing clean electricity 1000 watts at 120 volts 60hz" ... would this battery work?
No, this will not work for that purpose. This only has a 600W inverter.
Nice review, thank you. When I charge my Eco Flow Pro to 50%, it discharges itself in a day to 0%, although there is no load. That seems wrong to me, could you think why this happens? Thanks.
I would buy this only if the fan is none stopping noisy continuously. It will be very annoying!
How long did it take for our 100 water solar panel to charge it. Also You mentioned it only charging at 12 volts but never confirmed in the video, but I swear another reviewer had it charging off a 300 watt panel at 24v (it throttled it down to 200 watts anyway)
i hope they put in lithium ion phosphate soon. the bluetti 700 has phosphate but no fast charging
I bought one of these and was a bit disappointed in it's 12V output capabilities. It will not operate my 120W 12V popout slide. It drops the voltage to a point the motor stops. I have 2 other smaller power supplies that work the slide without fail. I tried everything and it just trips the motor breaker. Great for 110V but again, at high wattage draw, it drops voltage to accommodate which can be harmful, especially to sensitive equipment.
What power station would you recommend?
thanks, great video! Will it run a standard kitchen refrigerator/freezer?
To be fair most labtops use less than 250watts to charge and those are the professional gaming ones, average ones are 90watts or less.
You said the 12 volt DC output was regulated but did not show a test so did you test it or are you just accepting the manufacturer's claim?
They claim it's 13.60V. My meter shows 13.58V. The battery is 28.8V nominal, so it has to be going through a converter somewhere. I did not validate it at different levels of SOC though.
@@LithiumSolar I would not make the mistake of accepting the manufacturers claim of it being a regulated port. No disrespect but the video was more of an promotional advertisement than a review.
@@JohnSmith-ug5ci
If the battery has a nominal voltage of 28.8 V, the the measured output of the 12V socket is 13.58V, then it's running through a buck converter, and will be pretty well regulated, up to it's maximum current.
@@johnnodge4327 the problem is on the lower end. If it drops off it is not regulated.
10:21 Per ECOFLOW Solar Input specs 200W 10-25Vdc 12A Max
Thanks for review! Regarding this power station built-in battery, power source : any idea if Pro's BMS keeps all in-parallel groups of cells in serial connection always in balance concerning cells health condition? Only always balanced cells make max possible lifespan possible, among prerequisites other kinds.