I really feel like it could work man. Batman and Superman should have very different tones naturally, and they haven’t done anything in Batman or penguin that makes merging impossible
From the BTS looks of Gunn's metropolis,he's going for the retro futuristic n civilians clothing ala superman the animated series n DC the new frontier (which the trunks fits brilliantly!).Unless Reeves does some retooling with the batman universe mainly Gotham..looking like art deco style like Bruce timm animated series or noir futuristic like the Arkham city game with zeppelin flying overhead. Then I can see a match-up of Cornswet n Pattinson(in trunks too) when scenes switch from metro to Gotham n back again during the movie..But the way as is of Reeve's batman now..hard no. Bring on the new Gunn's DCU Batman in trunks!
I still want a Batman with Fantasy element, fighting monsters. Showing a man can be Superhero without any Powers. Realistic Batman is basically a Vigilante who fights crime not a Superhero. But Still The Batman is one of my favourite Superhero film.
I think that a totally new person should be cast for a drastically different Batman. I personally never thought Pattinson was a good Batman, but seems like he would have been better suited for a seasoned Nightwing.
Im not sure this will happen. Reeves and Gunn seem to be happy with them separate. Also, Gunn has said that he wants to make Elseworlds projects, and this is his biggest one. Also also, the Dynamic Duo movie takes place in the DCU which means that the Batman already has a Dick Grayson and a Jason Todd, which is not what Pattinson's batman has
Also the general audience knows how to deal with separate stories. for the longest time the DCTV shows on the CW were airing with the DCEU and the foxverse of marvel movies with marvel studios. I think the General audience can figure it out.
That's a good idea Bcoz Matt Reeves Batman 3 can release after Robert pattison Brave &bold The Batman - The Batman 2 - Rob The Batman Brave &Bold- The Batman 3-The batman brave &bold 2 - J.League If The batman 2 will be awesome movie then we all will eagerly waiting for Matt Batman 3 which set 10 year before Superman 2025 It will not feel out of place. The Batman saga treat as prequel trilogy of DCU Batman They just need only put DCU easter egg through tv headline or newspaper in batman 2,3 and mentioned meta human in Gotham through tv headline but they are not active ,they are in Gotham but didn't create any trouble during matt Reeves The Batman saga and batman only dealing with grounded character Time gap between the Batman 2022 & Brave & bold can be 12 years And This 12 years is enough to show how Grounded Batman become fantastical batman We learn ABCD (Gotham local gang) first & after a time we do phd course ( Darkseid) They simply Change look & bat suit to Differ both trilogy The Batman 2022 should exist before 10 years from Superman 2025
@@JudaGoldsteinNah brother you are overestimating the general audience. They are going to prioritize the DCU batman movie over elseworlds, well, just because they are used to the connected universe movies of the MCU. They are so dumb that most of them think that if it's not connected then it's not worth watching.
The Batman can be a fantastical movie as Michael Keaton Batman nearly Killed Kryptonian and he was a realistic type hero in his world but he worked out well
@@BrutalVengeance24nah a lot of people feel this way. James Gunn casting my end up horrible or the Jane Gunn Batman movie might turn out horrible which will destroy the image of the DCU especially if Andy is in control
Trust me , I think that Matt Reeves' intention to integrate The Batman universe with the new DCU would make him and James Gunn as liars because James Gunn and Peter Safran confirmed that the batman universe belongs to DC elseworlds while The Brave and the bold belongs to the new DCU , I also know that reeves is determined to diluting the brand of DC elseworld very aggressively , namely the batman epic Crime saga , lastly not least , Robert Pattinson told the New York times that he could be retiring from his acting career once Matt Reeves The Batman threqueel is done Bottom line :- Merging the batman universe with the new DCU is terrible idea
Then they can replace Pattinson with Brandon Sklenar and bring the fantastical element to the Reevesverse by introducing characters like Lucius Fox to provide more heigh tech Bat suit. Cancel the brave and the bold for now and make the Batman 2 with a villan like Mr. Freeze with more fantastical take. Then they can merge the two universes successfully. Brandon is 34 now. He can play Batman at least 20 years without any problem.
Would it be a lie, though? The Batman was an elseworlds to the DCEU, and so is the DCU. Also, we still haven't seen Superman yet. How can anyone say with certainly that it doesn't fit?
I think the most ideal solution is to make the Batman movies canon, yes, but with a twist. With how long Batman has operated for, it would be easy to cast a new actor to play an older version of that same Batman for the modern DCU who would be a more experienced fantasy based version, and keeping Robert Pattinson as the younger more grounded version. That way you would have the best of both worlds but technically still only have one Batman
That's a good idea Bcoz Matt Reeves Batman 3 can release after Robert pattison Brave &bold The Batman - The Batman 2 - Rob The Batman Brave &Bold- The Batman 3-The batman brave &bold 2 - J.League If The batman 2 will be awesome movie then we all will eagerly waiting for Matt Batman 3 which set 10 year before Superman 2025 It will not feel out of place. The Batman saga treat as prequel trilogy of DCU Batman They just need only put DCU easter egg through tv headline or newspaper in batman 2,3 and mentioned meta human in Gotham through tv headline but they are not active ,they are in Gotham but didn't create any trouble during matt Reeves The Batman saga and batman only dealing with grounded character Time gap between the Batman 2022 & Brave & bold can be 12 years And This 12 years is enough to show how Grounded Batman become fantastical batman We learn ABCD (Gotham local gang) first & after a time we do phd course ( Darkseid) They simply Change look & bat suit to Differ both trilogy The Batman 2022 should exist before 10 years from Superman 2025
I personally don’t think audiences will be that confused about 2 Batmans especially when they’d be COMPLETELY different: especially since the Batman franchise started before James Gunn took over meaning most fans will know this is just a continuation of what they’ve already seen. Sure they’d be a little confused at first but I certainly don’t think it would be to the point of it affecting things financially, if word gets around that the Batman part 2 and Brave and the bold are both great people will go see them, you’ve also got to keep in mind all the current multiverse stuff that’s going on in the MCU; people are starting to understand the concept of multiple actors playing the same characters: Spider-Man no way home being a big example
I think the general audience will not have much confusion because DCU movies will have DCStudios logo while the Elseworld will have DC Elseworld logo🤔 Btw I thought we would get Reacher as Batman. They can also do this like if we get movies of different timelines in DCU like Star Wars, then Reeves' Batman will become of DCU of Batman in year 2 or year 4. And same time we get the main DCU's Batman. Like in his 40's
I think Reeve's main focus is figurong out which charaxter he'll be using for Epic Crime Saga, and which ones cn he leave out for DCU's Arkham verse. Which is why it's confusing right now cuz he says he's not sure how it'll go, but is also saying he doesn't wanna bring Pattinson to the DCU. And if the biggest problem theyd have is "confusing storytelling", then that's not really a problem. Majority of the comic movie sudience hsve been aware of mutiverse, so it'll be easier for them to follow through. And if it's the competition with money, thats probably why they're taking a while to decide which story would suffice which universe.
@ James Gunn himself has repeatedly said no definitively. Regardless it won’t happen because it simply won’t work. Also Matt reeves has been adamant on keeping his universe grounded and more “realistic”. No superpowers. Clearly that doesn’t gel with the dcu.
What if they decide the Batman stories happened years before the brave and the bold. That way reeves can still tell his stories, all of which happened years before DCU stories took place
@@ColeAquizapDoesn't make sense. Gunn said meta humans have been around since ww2 so where are they at in the Batman and the pingueon? Plus the director already debunked this saying that the DCU Batman isn't the Pattinson Batman and they're seperate universes
@@blindpsychopath4368 the world is very big and gotham city is typically more grounded then the rest of the world There are so many different locations on the earth, some with crazy stuff and some with normal stuff
Also, a problem with Elseworlds storytelling from DC Studios, is that if the elseworlds stories NAIL castings the way they did with Pattinson and Farrell, it will be difficult to keep them as Elseworlds only versions.
Why would it be difficult. The reeves verse does not have be apart of the DCU. Batman can have a self-contained universe as Batman has his own stories. I disagree with general audiences will be confused as you don't need to be a hardcore fan to know the difference between the two. There is also the concept of multiverse, which CW, yes I said CW, did a halfway decent job.
@ I agree about audiences not being confused, I just mean if Pattinson was playing 2 different Batman’s at the same time, it would be a bit redundant and difficult, which is why it probably wouldn’t happen.
@@Percival983 Google search away man he slightly towers over everyone in the movie he's literally 6'1 I know he's not Ben Affleck but ngl he looked too big in the suit anyways
Even The Batman was going to start with a costume party where guests would make references to Superman and Wonder Woman. And that movie already has a touch of gothic fantasy/horror that Nolan's movies never had.
Why Pattinson as DCU Batman wouldn't work: Pattinson's Batman is in his second (or third?) year. Brave and the Bold Batman is supposed to be a Batman who's been around for a while and has a Bat family including his son, Damian. For Pattinson to be in the DCU, he'd either have to play a different version of Batman (which would confuse casual fans), or the Reeves universe would have to be fast forwarded at least 15+ years to speed up where he is in his career which would probably throw off everything Reeves was/is doing. Don't understand why some fans are so hell bent on making Battinson in the DCU happen. People need to be patient and let things play out and let Gunn, Muschetti and co. put things together. I like his version in its own universe but a grounded Reeves Batman into the DCU would be a terrible fit. I personally want to see a more comic book style fantastical Batman and Pattinson just isn't that. Personally, I'll be happy when they finally cast DCU Batman so all this merging the Reevesvere talk can stop already. It's getting tiresome at this point.
That's a good idea Bcoz Matt Reeves Batman 3 can release after Robert pattison Brave &bold The Batman - The Batman 2 - Rob The Batman Brave &Bold- The Batman 3-The batman brave &bold 2 - J.League If The batman 2 will be awesome movie then we all will eagerly waiting for Matt Batman 3 which set 10 year before Superman 2025 It will not feel out of place. The Batman saga treat as prequel trilogy of DCU Batman They just need only put DCU easter egg through tv headline or newspaper in batman 2,3 and mentioned meta human in Gotham through tv headline but they are not active ,they are in Gotham but didn't create any trouble during matt Reeves The Batman saga and batman only dealing with grounded character Time gap between the Batman 2022 & Brave & bold can be 12 years And This 12 years is enough to show how Grounded Batman become fantastical batman We learn ABCD (Gotham local gang) first & after a time we do phd course ( Darkseid) They simply Change look & bat suit to Differ both trilogy The Batman 2022 should exist before 10 years from Superman 2025
I think that it might be good if Matt Reeves was put in charge of Batman, his enemies, and Gotham. Then integrate it and have Gotham be for the more grounded stories and metropolis the more fantastical stories.
I really don't. Reeves is very slow at stuff. I'd much more want Gunn in charge of all DCU including Batman. He said it himself that Batman is his favorite character
For me, bring the batman in the dcu. I have said this to many of my friends. There was no point in not including the dark night trilogy in the dceu. Dc can't repeat the same mistake. Plus, Robert Pattinson said he is open to joining the justice league.
That's a good idea Bcoz Matt Reeves Batman 3 can release after Robert pattison Brave &bold The Batman - The Batman 2 - Rob The Batman Brave &Bold- The Batman 3-The batman brave &bold 2 - J.League If The batman 2 will be awesome movie then we all will eagerly waiting for Matt Batman 3 which set 10 year before Superman 2025 It will not feel out of place. The Batman saga treat as prequel trilogy of DCU Batman They just need only put DCU easter egg through tv headline or newspaper in batman 2,3 and mentioned meta human in Gotham through tv headline but they are not active ,they are in Gotham but didn't create any trouble during matt Reeves The Batman saga and batman only dealing with grounded character Time gap between the Batman 2022 & Brave & bold can be 12 years And This 12 years is enough to show how Grounded Batman become fantastical batman We learn ABCD (Gotham local gang) first & after a time we do phd course ( Darkseid) They simply Change look & bat suit to Differ both trilogy The Batman 2022 should exist before 10 years from Superman 2025
Doesn't make sense man. 1. It shows you're lying to your fans growing distrust. Then Gunn said meta humans have been around since ww2 and in modern society they've become a problem. Doesn't make sense in the Batmanverse
Merging the universe's would probably be best because Warner Brothers really messed up by having the theatrical cut of Justice League and then the Snyder cut. That divided the fans between the people that like the theatrical cut and the people that loved the the cut of the movie that had a plan from start to finish and wasn't Joss Whedon picking up the pieces and mashing them together after they fired Zack Snyder.
Tbf Snyder didn't want to do Batman. But WB forced him to do BvS. Same things happening now where it seems like WB is trying to push Pattinson into the DCU but Gunn and Matt are pushing back
I really don’t think it’s going to happen or work; Gunn and Reeves Have very different visions for Batman and I just don’t think it would be organically merged Reeves even said it would have to make sense, personally I think Matt Reeves is trying to politely dismiss the claims of the universe merging without trying to come across like he had issues with James Gunn, they’re also not stupid; they know all this discussion is gonna generate good buzz for the Batman 2 and the DCU!
If RDJ as Ironman wasn’t part of the avengers in the beginning, would you have been as excited? No! Which would you pick, RDJ or knockoff Iron Man in the MCU? I definitely would pick RDJ and I think the same concept is present with this
DCU needs all the goodwill and positive hype in the world so that it is a success. If merging The Batman with DCU brings precisely that, so be it. We need it! Otherwise, if DCU fails, we won't get any DC characters on screen except Batman Batman Batman and Batman-related characters for the next 10 years. WBD won't burn it's fingers for the 3rd time in trying to make a DC cinematic universe, will only make what's safe - Batman Batman Batman.
I feel like it could really work they like Batman is supposed to be different in tone anyway but they do collabs in comics all the time I trust them to find a way
I think it could work. Batman and Gotham are usually more grounded in the comics than Superman and Metropolis anyways. Batman stories are usually either horror or crime stories, while Superman is usually Sci-Fi/ Fantasy. So, yes it could work, but I wasn't a fan of The Batman (22), so I'm not too thrilled about it happening.
It's very simple as to whether The Batman should merge with the DCU. If James Gunn and Matt Reeves can crack the code, it should be merged. If they can't, then it shouldn't be done. At the end of the day, fans and general audiences just want great stories and dynamic characters in the DCU. And if that happens, we will show up to watch.
I feel like They're going to have to treat The Batman Part 1 , The Batman Part 2 like flashbacks … This is the only logical way to integrate Robert Pattinson's Batman into the DCU One) Aging the actor's look, Two) The Batman Part 3 will be the only Movie that could show us the fantastic side of Robert's Batman But i think Robert's Batman will have to appear in one or two another project before The Batman Part 3. Guys, I say this, but it's not necessarily what I want.
For me it would've made sense if they had done that earlier but after announcing it's different and then merging it will make it even more confusing, I think matt's universe should definitely be it's own thing, but having two batman movies on screen at the same time will only work if they have huge gape in their release dates atleast 2 years in my opinion, and foe that I think brave and the bold should be the main focus now and the batman can be released whenever because brave and the bold will play part in the whole DCU while the batman can be done whenever without any issue of disturbing other movies
This specific Batman, putted in GotG-styled DCU we're probably gonna get, will feel like Cable in Deadpool 2 xD And let's be honest, elseworlds were always the strongest advantage of DC movies.
I'm split as well. On one hand it would make things simpler if we already have a Batman people know and have accepted so we don't have to go through the usual 'new casting outrage' that comes with this business. And despite how young he looks, Pattinson is in his later thirties, he'll actually be forty soon enough. So he'd actually be physically the right age for what the DCU Batman is supposed to be, a man who will have by then be old enough to have adopted and raised several Robins, and maybe a Batgirl or two, and will have fathered Damien. But you're right about the tone, it was clear 'The Batman' was more akin to 'Year One' and 'Long Halloween', eras in which Batman is semi-grounded still with super-criminals only just on the rise. Without an early fight or at least hints at Clayface, Freeze, or even Poison Ivy to help establish super-criminals it would be hard to connect the two universes. But as for confusion, I'm not too sure. 'Spider-Man: No Way Home' brought three live-action Spider-Men together along with their continuities and there was no issue as far as I can tell. Yes McGuire and Garfield were established beforehand but I think it's still a good point. Also that line of thought was how we got the infamous Bat-Embargo which prevented Batman characters from showing up in the Justice League cartoon, the Teen Titans cartoon, and why we haven't gotten a live action Batman televsion appearance since Adam West.
There won't be less confusion it would make it more confusing having Robert's Batman be in the DCU. Audiences can just look if the word Elseworld is in the title or not to understand if it's the same Batman or different versions of the character
Robert Pattinson is 38, in two years after The Batman 2 out to theater he will 40, the requirements age for The Batman and The Bold, so it's make senses if he join DCU. but in Creature Commandos, Batman whose showed up there is more like Ben Affleck Batman. also there's a rumor that Alan Ritchson is the perfect person as described in Creature Commandos
Two Batmans at the same time on big screen is it’s super confusing for general audience. If they consider merge Battinson’s universe with DCU, I think the ideal solution is first of all making Pattinson’s Batman and his universe more fantastical. They should start this change in next Battinson’s universe project very carefully whatever the project is. Then they can merge these two universes successfully.
I disagree about it being confusing especially when it’s giving to be two different actors/ design and above all else two different STORIES plus look at all the multiverse we’ve had from both marvel and DC with the multiverse saga and crisis on infinite earths, I really don’t think that crowd that watches these films is gonna care all that much about two different Batmans and it’s certainly not going to put them off
@@scottmiles824 For me and you or the people who watch content like this on UA-cam and comic character fans it’s totally fine. But for the general moviegoers it’s not simple as that, especially for international audiences. Straightforward story telling is a major reason for MCU’s financial success. Anyway we already had some fantastical elements in Rob’s Batman movie like that green liquid he injected. If they can introduce characters like lucius fox in Batman 2 to provide more fantastical heigh tech Bat suit for Bruce, I think we are good to go.
and who said there were going to be 2 BM at the same time? matt and rob can finish their trilogy and after thats done we get a new BM. if any thing the general audience will be more confused if they merge, it would mean that they would have to do a lot of retconning which would be bad for the start of a new DCU in my opinion.
Putting The Batman in the DCU would be a mistake. Changing the world to be more fantastical would be alienating to fans, similar to what happened to the 90s Batman movies. Gunn is better off pushing Brave and The Bold as far away from the last installment of The Batman universe as possible. Even if the first DCU Justice League movie doesn’t have Batman.
First off, I like the pro and con card that you made. Now, I maintain this talk of merging worlds would be unnecessary and don't believe it will happen. Mostly fan speculation, I feel. As you referred to, folks sound as if they ONLY want The Batman in the DCU because of how successful it was and would give the shared universe more credibility. But Gunn initially said Elseworlds stories would happen, and I'd like to take him at his word at that, so we can get a different flavor and tone of Batman compared to what Reeves is creating.
Its not happening man. The director of the Batman Brave & the Bold confirmed that the DCU Batman isnt Pattinson Batman. Plus numerous times James Gunn and Matt Reeves have said their seperate universes. If you watch the interviews you can tell both hate the question and just want to focus on their universe.
When Batman year one was made in the comics, if you use a littlr logic, you can really tell the difference between that Batman, whith the killing joke Batman or even the batman from the justice league, BUT, they were the same batman, rob batman can star as a grounded batman, but he can evolve to become the batman that we know, JUST LIKE ZACK SNYDER WANTED WITH HENRY CAVILL SUPERMAN.
Everyone is milking the interview that tells us NOTHING. I would love it to happen, but we already know Gunn is going a different direction with Batman in his DCU and he's doing One Bad Day, which calls for an older Bruce Wayne/Batsy.
I would hate the Reevesverse merging with the DCU. It not only treats audiences as brain dead idiots, but displays a lack of faith/confidence by the studio. Plus the response to the Spider-Verse films, No Way Home and Deadpool & Wolverine both with audiences and financially show not only will GA accept concurrent iterations of a character, but they'll actively demand new entries starring those iterations. Really think about it, these 4 Films have made nearly $5 Billion at the box office alone. And they certainly did not make the majority of that money from the fans.
That's a good idea Bcoz Matt Reeves Batman 3 can release after Robert pattison Brave &bold The Batman - The Batman 2 - Rob The Batman Brave &Bold- The Batman 3-The batman brave &bold 2 - J.League If The batman 2 will be awesome movie then we all will eagerly waiting for Matt Batman 3 which set 10 year before Superman 2025 It will not feel out of place. The Batman saga treat as prequel trilogy of DCU Batman They just need only put DCU easter egg through tv headline or newspaper in batman 2,3 and mentioned meta human in Gotham through tv headline but they are not active ,they are in Gotham but didn't create any trouble during matt Reeves The Batman saga and batman only dealing with grounded character Time gap between the Batman 2022 & Brave & bold can be 12 years And This 12 years is enough to show how Grounded Batman become fantastical batman We learn ABCD (Gotham local gang) first & after a time we do phd course ( Darkseid) They simply Change look & bat suit to Differ both trilogy The Batman 2022 should exist before 10 years from Superman 2025
I think I’d vote yes, but I don’t like thinking about the retcons the Batman universe might have to do to fit… I really don’t like the fancasts for a new Batman, except for maybe Oliver Jackson-Cohen. Alan Ritchson is my least favorite. A less likely way is that they could say that “The Batman” universe is still an elseworlds story, but the DCU one is still played by Pattinson, but he’s a different version.
I don't particularly want the batman to join the dcu ,i think it would be nice to see a fantasical batman, there are already too many grounded versions but ,i wouldn't really mind it if they did merge them provided they executed it really well.
I'm happy for both options..if The BATMAN joins DCU I would be excited...if not I would still be happy.... They could call it DC Elesworld Crime universe.. But Like Gunn said tone could be different in every project providing the director more control over those characters..
That's a good idea Bcoz Matt Reeves Batman 3 can release after Robert pattison Brave &bold The Batman - The Batman 2 - Rob The Batman Brave &Bold- The Batman 3-The batman brave &bold 2 - J.League If The batman 2 will be awesome movie then we all will eagerly waiting for Matt Batman 3 which set 10 year before Superman 2025 It will not feel out of place. The Batman saga treat as prequel trilogy of DCU Batman They just need only put DCU easter egg through tv headline or newspaper in batman 2,3 and mentioned meta human in Gotham through tv headline but they are not active ,they are in Gotham but didn't create any trouble during matt Reeves The Batman saga and batman only dealing with grounded character Time gap between the Batman 2022 & Brave & bold can be 12 years And This 12 years is enough to show how Grounded Batman become fantastical batman We learn ABCD (Gotham local gang) first & after a time we do phd course ( Darkseid) They simply Change look & bat suit to Differ both trilogy The Batman 2022 should exist before 10 years from Superman 2025
This ISN'T happening! There are many interviews that declare that this Batman will NEVER be a part of the DCU. It doesn't fit. It can't. He's too young. Gunn JUST gave an interview about it. Not to mention that Batman has already made his first (sort of) appearance on Creature Commandos. The build of Batman's body is nothing like this one's. The Batman of the DCU will be older than Superman. We're getting the Bat-family. It will be a new and fresh outtake. Closer to the comic.
Keep them separate. People love Batman so the more Batmans the better. I think general audiences can handle two Batmans as long as one is real-world and the other fantastical. All general audiences want is a good movie with a good story, they don't care what universe a film is in.
This is a terrible idea and I can say why- This Batman is grounded, and you think this version of Batman is going to go toe-in-toe with Doctor Phosphorus or other big bads. This should stay on its own. I don't need the DCU to have a black Jim Gordan and not have a ginger Batgirl. But Reeves verse has that. Matt Reeves doesn't want this Batman to be in the DCU, he and Gunn said it multiple times already. Having two Batmen is not confusing the audiences can just see if the word "Elseworlds" is in the title of a DC movie and can understand it. Just bcuz they look good together doesn't mean it's gonna work out. Matt made this Batman to be grounded and not be fantastical. Brandon Sklenar should be Batman
This Batman is different from Gunns Universe..Reeves is more "grounded in reality" and a "detective" feel. Not really Gunns "super" universe. I don't think they should merge.
Really weird attempt at clickbait since its already been confirmed several times by Gunn and Reeves that its NEVER happening. And it never should. Do people just not read?
I think it's the worst idea and will ruin WB studios. Reeves' answer to me (knowing the business) says that his script delay made studio executives get this stupid idea because they don't want 2 Batmen. Reeves is clearly pushing back, and by stating that he wants to complete his vision and has his "head down" on shooting Batman 2, he obviously feels the need to show the studio he can produce a money maker that stands alone. They might be thinking they can just inject The Batman saga into the DCU and people will buy it, but those of us wanting intelligent storytelling with good character development can tell the difference between Reeves' voice and Gunn's. It will crash and burn.
The general audience doesnt give a shit about Batman being part of the DCU. I genuinely think that the GA find it kind of stupid when Batman meets Superman...the GA is used to Batman being a solo character. Thats why the idea of a live action version of the "Bat Family" will bomb, be laughed out of theatres and lose WB millions.
Man I be telling ppl. The bat family I live action is like the fantastic four from before, hard to put in live action together. Plus that movie need to be built up and not immediately put out in the forefront anyways
It's you who are not able to take your head out of sand to think about this. If Matt's okay with operating in DCU sandbox, we shouldn't be complaining.
@@shubhangbahadur7112 youtubers need uncertainty to turn it into views and they latch on to sporadic statements. Reeves' Batman vision, which has also been expanded on The Penguin will absolutely not be in James Gunn's DCU vision. It doesn't make a modicum of sense tone wise. Plus, even marketing wise, it makes more sense to keep these versions apart - as they'll have not one but two versions of the Batman to sell merch of.
PLEASE STOP! Not happening, PERIOD! Different film GENRES. Have you seen the bulkiness of the DCU Batman on Creature Commandos? As the matter of fact, Gunn has likely already cast his Batman. If they merge, I'll eat my own head.
From a story telling perspective it would be criminal to have Robert pattision as batman someone like alan ritchson is perfect for the role alan has a brutal fightin style in reacher much like batman, and batman has handsome yet intimidating face robert doesnt have a scary face like that he has a face of a hero batman isnt a hero to the villians hes a villian to the villians and alan ritchson has that its would so dumb if they merge batman is more important than superman, the reason marvel beat the shit outta dceu was cause of the casting marvel did perfect casting for all its characters while dceu did teh worst casting only accurate ones were superman and wonderwomen, if they dont cast alan ritchson or some like him itll be a waste
don't, just don't. the dceu failed becaucse warner only REacted to short-time developments in super hero movies and not sticking to or even having a long-term plan. that is also what harmed the mcu after phase 3. just plan everything out, do not shoehorn in stuff that isnt meant for existing in that context and do it the right way.
Gunn should cast unknown actor or 3rd level actor as Batman, if Reeveverse continues exit 😢. Otherwise Robert Pattinson Batman will face heavy competition and cease to exist 😮.
Nah we need a new batman in the Dcu because Robert Pattinson Batman will not work in the Dcu and also we got a silhouette of the Dcu batman in creature commandos and it clearly doesn't look like Pattinson Batman
In my opinion the BATMAN doesn't fit the obvious fantastical direction of the new DCU. The Elseworld option seems to be the best choice for Reeves...The BATMAN.
Its not happening. Reeves is just an awkward dude and doesn't know how to answer questions. Watch the interview and all of his interviews from this past weekend, he's a nervous mess in all of them and barely able to answer anything directly.
This is bad idea just make a new batman movie with Batman brave and the bold. Just keep the batman else world Robert's batman isn't even on par with Arkham batman in power.
@@shotclockgaming2266 my comment keeps getting taken down. I'm not supporting James P3DO gunn they should ask him what he was doing at that infamous island
It's not gonna happen, his comments are just him not trying to say too much. I love the batman, I love the dark Knight trilogy. This batman would fit into the dcu as well as bale would have in the dceu.
This merge must never happen.Dc should not start making stupid decisions again in 2025..Pls God no.Robert pattinson is not batman material for dcu at all.😂
Imagine at SDCC in July 2025 James Gunn brings Matt Reeves on stage to announce The Batman 2 as part of the DCU, with the Corenswet and Battinson logo's merging. The hype of that single announcement could make a "Dr. Doom unmasking himself as RDJ" level hype for DC! 🔥♥️
I really feel like it could work man. Batman and Superman should have very different tones naturally, and they haven’t done anything in Batman or penguin that makes merging impossible
From the BTS looks of Gunn's metropolis,he's going for the retro futuristic n civilians clothing ala superman the animated series n DC the new frontier (which the trunks fits brilliantly!).Unless Reeves does some retooling with the batman universe mainly Gotham..looking like art deco style like Bruce timm animated series or noir futuristic like the Arkham city game with zeppelin flying overhead. Then I can see a match-up of Cornswet n Pattinson(in trunks too) when scenes switch from metro to Gotham n back again during the movie..But the way as is of Reeve's batman now..hard no. Bring on the new Gunn's DCU Batman in trunks!
@@syamilshazlan862people who want Batman in trunks are absolutely nuts that would look so goofy it only works on Superman
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An over saturation of Batman is unnecessary. Just make it work.. it’s just fictional characters… it can work.
I still want a Batman with Fantasy element, fighting monsters. Showing a man can be Superhero without any Powers. Realistic Batman is basically a Vigilante who fights crime not a Superhero. But Still The Batman is one of my favourite Superhero film.
I think that a totally new person should be cast for a drastically different Batman. I personally never thought Pattinson was a good Batman, but seems like he would have been better suited for a seasoned Nightwing.
Its definitely best to ride off the the batmans and the penguins success, It would be a great start to the DCU
Im not sure this will happen. Reeves and Gunn seem to be happy with them separate. Also, Gunn has said that he wants to make Elseworlds projects, and this is his biggest one. Also also, the Dynamic Duo movie takes place in the DCU which means that the Batman already has a Dick Grayson and a Jason Todd, which is not what Pattinson's batman has
Also the general audience knows how to deal with separate stories. for the longest time the DCTV shows on the CW were airing with the DCEU and the foxverse of marvel movies with marvel studios. I think the General audience can figure it out.
@@JudaGoldstein definitely agreed
That's a good idea
Bcoz Matt Reeves Batman 3 can release after Robert pattison Brave &bold
The Batman - The Batman 2 - Rob The Batman Brave &Bold- The Batman 3-The batman brave &bold 2 - J.League
If The batman 2 will be awesome movie then we all will eagerly waiting for Matt Batman 3 which set 10 year before Superman 2025
It will not feel out of place.
The Batman saga treat as prequel trilogy of DCU Batman
They just need only put DCU easter egg through tv headline or newspaper in batman 2,3 and mentioned meta human in Gotham through tv headline but they are not active ,they are in Gotham but didn't create any trouble during matt Reeves The Batman saga and batman only dealing with grounded character
Time gap between the Batman 2022 & Brave & bold can be 12 years
And
This 12 years is enough to show how
Grounded Batman become fantastical batman
We learn ABCD (Gotham local gang) first & after a time we do phd course ( Darkseid)
They simply Change look & bat suit to
Differ both trilogy
The Batman 2022 should exist before 10 years from Superman 2025
@@JudaGoldsteinNah brother you are overestimating the general audience. They are going to prioritize the DCU batman movie over elseworlds, well, just because they are used to the connected universe movies of the MCU. They are so dumb that most of them think that if it's not connected then it's not worth watching.
@@Rishab1234-l2uThat's a very good idea. That way they can slowly introduce the fantasy elements to the Pattinson Batman movies.
The Batman can be a fantastical movie as Michael Keaton Batman nearly Killed Kryptonian and he was a realistic type hero in his world but he worked out well
At this point I'd rather have Robert Pattinson as Batman than someone new.
Dumb comment
@BrutalVengeance24 your comment is fucking pointless.
@@BrutalVengeance24nah a lot of people feel this way. James Gunn casting my end up horrible or the Jane Gunn Batman movie might turn out horrible which will destroy the image of the DCU especially if Andy is in control
Trust me , I think that Matt Reeves' intention to integrate The Batman universe with the new DCU would make him and James Gunn as liars because James Gunn and Peter Safran confirmed that the batman universe belongs to DC elseworlds while The Brave and the bold belongs to the new DCU , I also know that reeves is determined to diluting the brand of DC elseworld very aggressively , namely the batman epic Crime saga , lastly not least , Robert Pattinson told the New York times that he could be retiring from his acting career once Matt Reeves The Batman threqueel is done
Bottom line :- Merging the batman universe with the new DCU is terrible idea
No one cares about past lies as long as the movies are great.
Plans change. That doesn't automatically make people "liars."
Things change. Minds can change… it doesn’t make any of them liars. Is everything you think and say set in stone?? PLANS CHANGE
Then they can replace Pattinson with Brandon Sklenar and bring the fantastical element to the Reevesverse by introducing characters like Lucius Fox to provide more heigh tech Bat suit. Cancel the brave and the bold for now and make the Batman 2 with a villan like Mr. Freeze with more fantastical take. Then they can merge the two universes successfully. Brandon is 34 now. He can play Batman at least 20 years without any problem.
Would it be a lie, though? The Batman was an elseworlds to the DCEU, and so is the DCU. Also, we still haven't seen Superman yet. How can anyone say with certainly that it doesn't fit?
I think the most ideal solution is to make the Batman movies canon, yes, but with a twist. With how long Batman has operated for, it would be easy to cast a new actor to play an older version of that same Batman for the modern DCU who would be a more experienced fantasy based version, and keeping Robert Pattinson as the younger more grounded version. That way you would have the best of both worlds but technically still only have one Batman
One problem. The Batman and and the penguin are both set in 2022. There is at minimum going to be some timeline retconing to make this work.
@@rohanthomas4134 im sure that can be easily fixed
That's a good idea
Bcoz Matt Reeves Batman 3 can release after Robert pattison Brave &bold
The Batman - The Batman 2 - Rob The Batman Brave &Bold- The Batman 3-The batman brave &bold 2 - J.League
If The batman 2 will be awesome movie then we all will eagerly waiting for Matt Batman 3 which set 10 year before Superman 2025
It will not feel out of place.
The Batman saga treat as prequel trilogy of DCU Batman
They just need only put DCU easter egg through tv headline or newspaper in batman 2,3 and mentioned meta human in Gotham through tv headline but they are not active ,they are in Gotham but didn't create any trouble during matt Reeves The Batman saga and batman only dealing with grounded character
Time gap between the Batman 2022 & Brave & bold can be 12 years
And
This 12 years is enough to show how
Grounded Batman become fantastical batman
We learn ABCD (Gotham local gang) first & after a time we do phd course ( Darkseid)
They simply Change look & bat suit to
Differ both trilogy
The Batman 2022 should exist before 10 years from Superman 2025
I personally don’t think audiences will be that confused about 2 Batmans especially when they’d be COMPLETELY different: especially since the Batman franchise started before James Gunn took over meaning most fans will know this is just a continuation of what they’ve already seen. Sure they’d be a little confused at first but I certainly don’t think it would be to the point of it affecting things financially, if word gets around that the Batman part 2 and Brave and the bold are both great people will go see them, you’ve also got to keep in mind all the current multiverse stuff that’s going on in the MCU; people are starting to understand the concept of multiple actors playing the same characters: Spider-Man no way home being a big example
I think the general audience will not have much confusion because DCU movies will have DCStudios logo while the Elseworld will have DC Elseworld logo🤔
Btw I thought we would get Reacher as Batman.
They can also do this like if we get movies of different timelines in DCU like Star Wars, then Reeves' Batman will become of DCU of Batman in year 2 or year 4. And same time we get the main DCU's Batman. Like in his 40's
I think Reeve's main focus is figurong out which charaxter he'll be using for Epic Crime Saga, and which ones cn he leave out for DCU's Arkham verse. Which is why it's confusing right now cuz he says he's not sure how it'll go, but is also saying he doesn't wanna bring Pattinson to the DCU. And if the biggest problem theyd have is "confusing storytelling", then that's not really a problem. Majority of the comic movie sudience hsve been aware of mutiverse, so it'll be easier for them to follow through. And if it's the competition with money, thats probably why they're taking a while to decide which story would suffice which universe.
It’s definitely not happening, nor should it happen.
Lmao the man himself didn't say no. It could happen and most likely will happen if Superman is a massive hit.
@ James Gunn himself has repeatedly said no definitively. Regardless it won’t happen because it simply won’t work. Also Matt reeves has been adamant on keeping his universe grounded and more “realistic”. No superpowers. Clearly that doesn’t gel with the dcu.
i agree..it shouldn't.
@@kevz2474 it WILL happen IF the new Superman movie does its thing at the box office
Why not?
What if they decide the Batman stories happened years before the brave and the bold. That way reeves can still tell his stories, all of which happened years before DCU stories took place
That's a great idea and it will work perfectly
Still doesn't make sense since Gunn said meta humans have been around since WW2 and that they've become a problem in today's society
I want a fantastical batman let them leave pattison where he is
pattinson can work his way up to being fantastical
@@ColeAquizapDoesn't make sense. Gunn said meta humans have been around since ww2 so where are they at in the Batman and the pingueon? Plus the director already debunked this saying that the DCU Batman isn't the Pattinson Batman and they're seperate universes
@@blindpsychopath4368 the world is very big and gotham city is typically more grounded then the rest of the world
There are so many different locations on the earth, some with crazy stuff and some with normal stuff
Also, a problem with Elseworlds storytelling from DC Studios, is that if the elseworlds stories NAIL castings the way they did with Pattinson and Farrell, it will be difficult to keep them as Elseworlds only versions.
Why would it be difficult. The reeves verse does not have be apart of the DCU. Batman can have a self-contained universe as Batman has his own stories. I disagree with general audiences will be confused as you don't need to be a hardcore fan to know the difference between the two. There is also the concept of multiverse, which CW, yes I said CW, did a halfway decent job.
@ I agree about audiences not being confused, I just mean if Pattinson was playing 2 different Batman’s at the same time, it would be a bit redundant and difficult, which is why it probably wouldn’t happen.
@@Derek-yw4ctEasy Pattinson is not the Batman in DCU. Problem solved
@ yes, I can be convinced either way, I just hope it’s not one of the terrible popular fancasts.
@@Derek-yw4ct I agree I hate the Alan Richardson ones
If this is true, Robert Pattison needs to bulk up
Im telling u.He would even need to take roids😂😂😂.my mans is just too little.
And hes not that tall
@@Percival983 hes over 6 foot??? 💀
@@royal4908 over 6 ft?. U sure?🤣
@@Percival983 Google search away man he slightly towers over everyone in the movie he's literally 6'1 I know he's not Ben Affleck but ngl he looked too big in the suit anyways
I really hope not. I'd much prefer Gunn and Matt keeps them separate, and Gunn has his own Batman tbh.
Even The Batman was going to start with a costume party where guests would make references to Superman and Wonder Woman.
And that movie already has a touch of gothic fantasy/horror that Nolan's movies never had.
I think they should do it, it’s weird having 2 different Batman’s
no mr i love having less creatve freedom
Why Pattinson as DCU Batman wouldn't work:
Pattinson's Batman is in his second (or third?) year. Brave and the Bold Batman is supposed to be a Batman who's been around for a while and has a Bat family including his son, Damian. For Pattinson to be in the DCU, he'd either have to play a different version of Batman (which would confuse casual fans), or the Reeves universe would have to be fast forwarded at least 15+ years to speed up where he is in his career which would probably throw off everything Reeves was/is doing. Don't understand why some fans are so hell bent on making Battinson in the DCU happen. People need to be patient and let things play out and let Gunn, Muschetti and co. put things together. I like his version in its own universe but a grounded Reeves Batman into the DCU would be a terrible fit. I personally want to see a more comic book style fantastical Batman and Pattinson just isn't that.
Personally, I'll be happy when they finally cast DCU Batman so all this merging the Reevesvere talk can stop already. It's getting tiresome at this point.
That's a good idea
Bcoz Matt Reeves Batman 3 can release after Robert pattison Brave &bold
The Batman - The Batman 2 - Rob The Batman Brave &Bold- The Batman 3-The batman brave &bold 2 - J.League
If The batman 2 will be awesome movie then we all will eagerly waiting for Matt Batman 3 which set 10 year before Superman 2025
It will not feel out of place.
The Batman saga treat as prequel trilogy of DCU Batman
They just need only put DCU easter egg through tv headline or newspaper in batman 2,3 and mentioned meta human in Gotham through tv headline but they are not active ,they are in Gotham but didn't create any trouble during matt Reeves The Batman saga and batman only dealing with grounded character
Time gap between the Batman 2022 & Brave & bold can be 12 years
And
This 12 years is enough to show how
Grounded Batman become fantastical batman
We learn ABCD (Gotham local gang) first & after a time we do phd course ( Darkseid)
They simply Change look & bat suit to
Differ both trilogy
The Batman 2022 should exist before 10 years from Superman 2025
@@Rishab1234-l2u damn spammer
I think that it might be good if Matt Reeves was put in charge of Batman, his enemies, and Gotham. Then integrate it and have Gotham be for the more grounded stories and metropolis the more fantastical stories.
He's already producing the Clayface movie for DCU and the animated Dynamic Duo movie!
@@shubhangbahadur7112As far as we know it's only the Clayface. We don't know much about Dynamic Duo
I really don't. Reeves is very slow at stuff. I'd much more want Gunn in charge of all DCU including Batman. He said it himself that Batman is his favorite character
Like Wonder Woman tone should feel like playing a gow game
For me, bring the batman in the dcu. I have said this to many of my friends. There was no point in not including the dark night trilogy in the dceu.
Dc can't repeat the same mistake. Plus, Robert Pattinson said he is open to joining the justice league.
That's a good idea
Bcoz Matt Reeves Batman 3 can release after Robert pattison Brave &bold
The Batman - The Batman 2 - Rob The Batman Brave &Bold- The Batman 3-The batman brave &bold 2 - J.League
If The batman 2 will be awesome movie then we all will eagerly waiting for Matt Batman 3 which set 10 year before Superman 2025
It will not feel out of place.
The Batman saga treat as prequel trilogy of DCU Batman
They just need only put DCU easter egg through tv headline or newspaper in batman 2,3 and mentioned meta human in Gotham through tv headline but they are not active ,they are in Gotham but didn't create any trouble during matt Reeves The Batman saga and batman only dealing with grounded character
Time gap between the Batman 2022 & Brave & bold can be 12 years
And
This 12 years is enough to show how
Grounded Batman become fantastical batman
We learn ABCD (Gotham local gang) first & after a time we do phd course ( Darkseid)
They simply Change look & bat suit to
Differ both trilogy
The Batman 2022 should exist before 10 years from Superman 2025
Doesn't make sense man. 1. It shows you're lying to your fans growing distrust. Then Gunn said meta humans have been around since ww2 and in modern society they've become a problem. Doesn't make sense in the Batmanverse
Merging the universe's would probably be best because Warner Brothers really messed up by having the theatrical cut of Justice League and then the Snyder cut. That divided the fans between the people that like the theatrical cut and the people that loved the the cut of the movie that had a plan from start to finish and wasn't Joss Whedon picking up the pieces and mashing them together after they fired Zack Snyder.
Tbf Snyder didn't want to do Batman. But WB forced him to do BvS. Same things happening now where it seems like WB is trying to push Pattinson into the DCU but Gunn and Matt are pushing back
I really don’t think it’s going to happen or work; Gunn and Reeves Have very different visions for Batman and I just don’t think it would be organically merged Reeves even said it would have to make sense, personally I think Matt Reeves is trying to politely dismiss the claims of the universe merging without trying to come across like he had issues with James Gunn, they’re also not stupid; they know all this discussion is gonna generate good buzz for the Batman 2 and the DCU!
If RDJ as Ironman wasn’t part of the avengers in the beginning, would you have been as excited? No! Which would you pick, RDJ or knockoff Iron Man in the MCU? I definitely would pick RDJ and I think the same concept is present with this
Robert Pattinson is not RDJ mate. He's a decent Batman. But not a good Bruce Wayne. Plus his Batman is way too grounded
DCU needs all the goodwill and positive hype in the world so that it is a success. If merging The Batman with DCU brings precisely that, so be it. We need it! Otherwise, if DCU fails, we won't get any DC characters on screen except Batman Batman Batman and Batman-related characters for the next 10 years. WBD won't burn it's fingers for the 3rd time in trying to make a DC cinematic universe, will only make what's safe - Batman Batman Batman.
So why merge Pattinson then? That's not goodwill that's lying to the fans. They just need to let Reeves do his stuff and let Gunn do his stuff
@@blindpsychopath4368That's not lying. That's evolving for good. Having 2 concurrent Batmen cheapens the property.
5:02 Doesn’t the Adam West Batman count as fantasy in live-action?
I feel like it could really work they like Batman is supposed to be different in tone anyway but they do collabs in comics all the time I trust them to find a way
I think it could work. Batman and Gotham are usually more grounded in the comics than Superman and Metropolis anyways. Batman stories are usually either horror or crime stories, while Superman is usually Sci-Fi/ Fantasy. So, yes it could work, but I wasn't a fan of The Batman (22), so I'm not too thrilled about it happening.
It's very simple as to whether The Batman should merge with the DCU. If James Gunn and Matt Reeves can crack the code, it should be merged. If they can't, then it shouldn't be done. At the end of the day, fans and general audiences just want great stories and dynamic characters in the DCU. And if that happens, we will show up to watch.
I feel like
They're going to have to treat The Batman Part 1 , The Batman Part 2 like flashbacks …
This is the only logical way to integrate Robert Pattinson's Batman into the DCU
One) Aging the actor's look, Two) The Batman Part 3 will be the only Movie that could show us the fantastic side of Robert's Batman
But i think Robert's Batman will have to appear in one or two another project before The Batman Part 3.
Guys, I say this, but it's not necessarily what I want.
For me it would've made sense if they had done that earlier but after announcing it's different and then merging it will make it even more confusing, I think matt's universe should definitely be it's own thing, but having two batman movies on screen at the same time will only work if they have huge gape in their release dates atleast 2 years in my opinion, and foe that I think brave and the bold should be the main focus now and the batman can be released whenever because brave and the bold will play part in the whole DCU while the batman can be done whenever without any issue of disturbing other movies
This specific Batman, putted in GotG-styled DCU we're probably gonna get, will feel like Cable in Deadpool 2 xD
And let's be honest, elseworlds were always the strongest advantage of DC movies.
I'm split as well. On one hand it would make things simpler if we already have a Batman people know and have accepted so we don't have to go through the usual 'new casting outrage' that comes with this business. And despite how young he looks, Pattinson is in his later thirties, he'll actually be forty soon enough. So he'd actually be physically the right age for what the DCU Batman is supposed to be, a man who will have by then be old enough to have adopted and raised several Robins, and maybe a Batgirl or two, and will have fathered Damien. But you're right about the tone, it was clear 'The Batman' was more akin to 'Year One' and 'Long Halloween', eras in which Batman is semi-grounded still with super-criminals only just on the rise. Without an early fight or at least hints at Clayface, Freeze, or even Poison Ivy to help establish super-criminals it would be hard to connect the two universes. But as for confusion, I'm not too sure. 'Spider-Man: No Way Home' brought three live-action Spider-Men together along with their continuities and there was no issue as far as I can tell. Yes McGuire and Garfield were established beforehand but I think it's still a good point. Also that line of thought was how we got the infamous Bat-Embargo which prevented Batman characters from showing up in the Justice League cartoon, the Teen Titans cartoon, and why we haven't gotten a live action Batman televsion appearance since Adam West.
I think it could work, the entire point of Batman and Superman is their worlds dichotomy.
There won't be less confusion it would make it more confusing having Robert's Batman be in the DCU. Audiences can just look if the word Elseworld is in the title or not to understand if it's the same Batman or different versions of the character
you know what else is massive?????
If SUPERMAN is a big hit then I see them letting reeves finish his trilogy but teasing the future of a older battinson in the dcu universe
Robert Pattinson is 38, in two years after The Batman 2 out to theater he will 40, the requirements age for The Batman and The Bold, so it's make senses if he join DCU. but in Creature Commandos, Batman whose showed up there is more like Ben Affleck Batman. also there's a rumor that Alan Ritchson is the perfect person as described in Creature Commandos
I feel so mixed. I really understand both sides, but whatever way they go, they need to lean into the best of what they choose.
😊 Thanks, thumbs up, have a great day.
Two Batmans at the same time on big screen is it’s super confusing for general audience. If they consider merge Battinson’s universe with DCU, I think the ideal solution is first of all making Pattinson’s Batman and his universe more fantastical. They should start this change in next Battinson’s universe project very carefully whatever the project is. Then they can merge these two universes successfully.
How will it be confusing?? 😂
I disagree about it being confusing especially when it’s giving to be two different actors/ design and above all else two different STORIES plus look at all the multiverse we’ve had from both marvel and DC with the multiverse saga and crisis on infinite earths, I really don’t think that crowd that watches these films is gonna care all that much about two different Batmans and it’s certainly not going to put them off
@@scottmiles824 For me and you or the people who watch content like this on UA-cam and comic character fans it’s totally fine. But for the general moviegoers it’s not simple as that, especially for international audiences. Straightforward story telling is a major reason for MCU’s financial success. Anyway we already had some fantastical elements in Rob’s Batman movie like that green liquid he injected. If they can introduce characters like lucius fox in Batman 2 to provide more fantastical heigh tech Bat suit for Bruce, I think we are good to go.
and who said there were going to be 2 BM at the same time? matt and rob can finish their trilogy and after thats done we get a new BM. if any thing the general audience will be more confused if they merge, it would mean that they would have to do a lot of retconning which would be bad for the start of a new DCU in my opinion.
Putting The Batman in the DCU would be a mistake. Changing the world to be more fantastical would be alienating to fans, similar to what happened to the 90s Batman movies.
Gunn is better off pushing Brave and The Bold as far away from the last installment of The Batman universe as possible. Even if the first DCU Justice League movie doesn’t have Batman.
First off, I like the pro and con card that you made. Now, I maintain this talk of merging worlds would be unnecessary and don't believe it will happen. Mostly fan speculation, I feel. As you referred to, folks sound as if they ONLY want The Batman in the DCU because of how successful it was and would give the shared universe more credibility. But Gunn initially said Elseworlds stories would happen, and I'd like to take him at his word at that, so we can get a different flavor and tone of Batman compared to what Reeves is creating.
Its not happening man. The director of the Batman Brave & the Bold confirmed that the DCU Batman isnt Pattinson Batman. Plus numerous times James Gunn and Matt Reeves have said their seperate universes. If you watch the interviews you can tell both hate the question and just want to focus on their universe.
When Batman year one was made in the comics, if you use a littlr logic, you can really tell the difference between that Batman, whith the killing joke Batman or even the batman from the justice league, BUT, they were the same batman, rob batman can star as a grounded batman, but he can evolve to become the batman that we know, JUST LIKE ZACK SNYDER WANTED WITH HENRY CAVILL SUPERMAN.
Everyone is milking the interview that tells us NOTHING. I would love it to happen, but we already know Gunn is going a different direction with Batman in his DCU and he's doing One Bad Day, which calls for an older Bruce Wayne/Batsy.
One reason not to do it - Alan Ritchson would kill it as an older Batman…
I feel like he would be a really stiff actor as batman
@ Batman IS stiff!
@@JonS-jn5wy When I say stiff I mean that hes a bad actor
@ a good director could get a great performance out of him. Again, it’s Batman, not Shakespeare…
I would hate the Reevesverse merging with the DCU. It not only treats audiences as brain dead idiots, but displays a lack of faith/confidence by the studio. Plus the response to the Spider-Verse films, No Way Home and Deadpool & Wolverine both with audiences and financially show not only will GA accept concurrent iterations of a character, but they'll actively demand new entries starring those iterations. Really think about it, these 4 Films have made nearly $5 Billion at the box office alone. And they certainly did not make the majority of that money from the fans.
That's a good idea
Bcoz Matt Reeves Batman 3 can release after Robert pattison Brave &bold
The Batman - The Batman 2 - Rob The Batman Brave &Bold- The Batman 3-The batman brave &bold 2 - J.League
If The batman 2 will be awesome movie then we all will eagerly waiting for Matt Batman 3 which set 10 year before Superman 2025
It will not feel out of place.
The Batman saga treat as prequel trilogy of DCU Batman
They just need only put DCU easter egg through tv headline or newspaper in batman 2,3 and mentioned meta human in Gotham through tv headline but they are not active ,they are in Gotham but didn't create any trouble during matt Reeves The Batman saga and batman only dealing with grounded character
Time gap between the Batman 2022 & Brave & bold can be 12 years
And
This 12 years is enough to show how
Grounded Batman become fantastical batman
We learn ABCD (Gotham local gang) first & after a time we do phd course ( Darkseid)
They simply Change look & bat suit to
Differ both trilogy
The Batman 2022 should exist before 10 years from Superman 2025
I think I’d vote yes, but I don’t like thinking about the retcons the Batman universe might have to do to fit… I really don’t like the fancasts for a new Batman, except for maybe Oliver Jackson-Cohen. Alan Ritchson is my least favorite. A less likely way is that they could say that “The Batman” universe is still an elseworlds story, but the DCU one is still played by Pattinson, but he’s a different version.
If the merge does happen then….the DCU started in 2022 🤣
Technically In 2021 because Most of TSS is canon
@ Oh yeah that’s right.
I don't particularly want the batman to join the dcu ,i think it would be nice to see a fantasical batman, there are already too many grounded versions but ,i wouldn't really mind it if they did merge them provided they executed it really well.
The ages and timing of the Batman and the Brave and the Bold will not synch
I'm happy for both options..if The BATMAN joins DCU I would be excited...if not I would still be happy.... They could call it DC Elesworld Crime universe..
But Like Gunn said tone could be different in every project providing the director more control over those characters..
That's a good idea
Bcoz Matt Reeves Batman 3 can release after Robert pattison Brave &bold
The Batman - The Batman 2 - Rob The Batman Brave &Bold- The Batman 3-The batman brave &bold 2 - J.League
If The batman 2 will be awesome movie then we all will eagerly waiting for Matt Batman 3 which set 10 year before Superman 2025
It will not feel out of place.
The Batman saga treat as prequel trilogy of DCU Batman
They just need only put DCU easter egg through tv headline or newspaper in batman 2,3 and mentioned meta human in Gotham through tv headline but they are not active ,they are in Gotham but didn't create any trouble during matt Reeves The Batman saga and batman only dealing with grounded character
Time gap between the Batman 2022 & Brave & bold can be 12 years
And
This 12 years is enough to show how
Grounded Batman become fantastical batman
We learn ABCD (Gotham local gang) first & after a time we do phd course ( Darkseid)
They simply Change look & bat suit to
Differ both trilogy
The Batman 2022 should exist before 10 years from Superman 2025
This ISN'T happening!
There are many interviews that declare that this Batman will NEVER be a part of the DCU. It doesn't fit. It can't.
He's too young.
Gunn JUST gave an interview about it.
Not to mention that Batman has already made his first (sort of) appearance on Creature Commandos.
The build of Batman's body is nothing like this one's.
The Batman of the DCU will be older than Superman. We're getting the Bat-family. It will be a new and fresh outtake. Closer to the comic.
Keep them separate. People love Batman so the more Batmans the better. I think general audiences can handle two Batmans as long as one is real-world and the other fantastical. All general audiences want is a good movie with a good story, they don't care what universe a film is in.
The merge has to happen. And I think they've already decided.
Not according to Andy
Superman second trailer date ???
Pattinson batman is my all time favorite
If Pattinson joins the DCU I will be forced to question James Gunn for now on so please please Gunn do NOT do this!!
I’m getting crazy jealousy vibes if they brought Robert into Gunns mix. Where’s all that confidence ya’ll had before?
This is a terrible idea and I can say why-
This Batman is grounded, and you think this version of Batman is going to go toe-in-toe with Doctor Phosphorus or other big bads. This should stay on its own.
I don't need the DCU to have a black Jim Gordan and not have a ginger Batgirl. But Reeves verse has that.
Matt Reeves doesn't want this Batman to be in the DCU, he and Gunn said it multiple times already.
Having two Batmen is not confusing the audiences can just see if the word "Elseworlds" is in the title of a DC movie and can understand it.
Just bcuz they look good together doesn't mean it's gonna work out. Matt made this Batman to be grounded and not be fantastical.
Brandon Sklenar should be Batman
Nah its not a debate. No one wants Battinson in the DCU. Let that be it's own story
This Batman is different from Gunns Universe..Reeves is more "grounded in reality" and a "detective" feel. Not really Gunns "super" universe. I don't think they should merge.
Really weird attempt at clickbait since its already been confirmed several times by Gunn and Reeves that its NEVER happening. And it never should. Do people just not read?
Yes!
Thank you.
I think it's the worst idea and will ruin WB studios. Reeves' answer to me (knowing the business) says that his script delay made studio executives get this stupid idea because they don't want 2 Batmen. Reeves is clearly pushing back, and by stating that he wants to complete his vision and has his "head down" on shooting Batman 2, he obviously feels the need to show the studio he can produce a money maker that stands alone. They might be thinking they can just inject The Batman saga into the DCU and people will buy it, but those of us wanting intelligent storytelling with good character development can tell the difference between Reeves' voice and Gunn's. It will crash and burn.
The general audience doesnt give a shit about Batman being part of the DCU. I genuinely think that the GA find it kind of stupid when Batman meets Superman...the GA is used to Batman being a solo character. Thats why the idea of a live action version of the "Bat Family" will bomb, be laughed out of theatres and lose WB millions.
Man I be telling ppl. The bat family I live action is like the fantastic four from before, hard to put in live action together. Plus that movie need to be built up and not immediately put out in the forefront anyways
That's a whole lie, batman will ALWAYS be part of it, neither will prosper without the other!!!
It has to be in DCU.. i dont want brave and the bold with new Maroni, Falcone, Alfred , James Gordon and another Catwoman 🙄
no he's not. period. STOP milking this into pure horseshit.
It's you who are not able to take your head out of sand to think about this. If Matt's okay with operating in DCU sandbox, we shouldn't be complaining.
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Reeves' Batman vision, which has also been expanded on The Penguin will absolutely not be in James Gunn's DCU vision. It doesn't make a modicum of sense tone wise.
Plus, even marketing wise, it makes more sense to keep these versions apart - as they'll have not one but two versions of the Batman to sell merch of.
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PLEASE STOP! Not happening, PERIOD! Different film GENRES. Have you seen the bulkiness of the DCU Batman on Creature Commandos? As the matter of fact, Gunn has likely already cast his Batman. If they merge, I'll eat my own head.
From a story telling perspective it would be criminal to have Robert pattision as batman someone like alan ritchson is perfect for the role alan has a brutal fightin style in reacher much like batman, and batman has handsome yet intimidating face robert doesnt have a scary face like that he has a face of a hero batman isnt a hero to the villians hes a villian to the villians and alan ritchson has that its would so dumb if they merge batman is more important than superman, the reason marvel beat the shit outta dceu was cause of the casting marvel did perfect casting for all its characters while dceu did teh worst casting only accurate ones were superman and wonderwomen, if they dont cast alan ritchson or some like him itll be a waste
don't, just don't. the dceu failed becaucse warner only REacted to short-time developments in super hero movies and not sticking to or even having a long-term plan. that is also what harmed the mcu after phase 3. just plan everything out, do not shoehorn in stuff that isnt meant for existing in that context and do it the right way.
You think?! 😒🔥
Gunn should cast unknown actor or 3rd level actor as Batman, if Reeveverse continues exit 😢. Otherwise Robert Pattinson Batman will face heavy competition and cease to exist 😮.
Nah we need a new batman in the Dcu because Robert Pattinson Batman will not work in the Dcu and also we got a silhouette of the Dcu batman in creature commandos and it clearly doesn't look like Pattinson Batman
WAIT WAIT WAIT WAIT NO NO NO NO NO NO
In my opinion the BATMAN doesn't fit the obvious fantastical direction of the new DCU. The Elseworld option seems to be the best choice for Reeves...The BATMAN.
Its not happening. Reeves is just an awkward dude and doesn't know how to answer questions.
Watch the interview and all of his interviews from this past weekend, he's a nervous mess in all of them and barely able to answer anything directly.
i hope not
Hell no..Robert Pattinson version suck for DCU
The general audience is not special ed... they would have no excuse for being confused.....
This is bad idea just make a new batman movie with Batman brave and the bold. Just keep the batman else world Robert's batman isn't even on par with Arkham batman in power.
I don't want this serious batman joining this goofy as team
Not goofy
So you're telling me you'd rather have a goofy Batman who cracks jokes while fighting crime like he's Spider Man?
@@shotclockgaming2266 I rather them do something separate. I'm not supporting James P3DO gunn. They should be asking him what he did at Epstein Island
@@shotclockgaming2266 my comment keeps getting taken down. I'm not supporting James P3DO gunn they should ask him what he was doing at that infamous island
It's not gonna happen, his comments are just him not trying to say too much. I love the batman, I love the dark Knight trilogy. This batman would fit into the dcu as well as bale would have in the dceu.
Battinson wouldn't work in the DCU in my opinion. In a world where there are super powered people...arm darts aint it.
This merge must never happen.Dc should not start making stupid decisions again in 2025..Pls God no.Robert pattinson is not batman material for dcu at all.😂
Dude this is such a horrible idea.
Stop talking about it please. It's not even that interesting anymore.
Uh, NO.
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No thanks please no please
Well Said dude.
It should not happen
Imagine at SDCC in July 2025 James Gunn brings Matt Reeves on stage to announce The Batman 2 as part of the DCU, with the Corenswet and Battinson logo's merging. The hype of that single announcement could make a "Dr. Doom unmasking himself as RDJ" level hype for DC! 🔥♥️