But it's already wrong, they'd have to go back on saying the Batman is older than superman plus the Batman is more grounded in realism hints the director saying he didn't want out of the world villains in his Batman.
I think it makes the most sense. 2 separate live action Batman film franchises at the same time is just an opening for conflict, delays, obstruction, and executive interference. One bombing would destroy the other with the flagship character of not only DC but Warner Brothers. Batman is more popular than any Marvel character, with the possible exception of Spider-Man. We had a Black Adam movie with no Shazam, Venom, Madam Web, Morbius, Kraven with no Spider-man. Separate franchises of flagship characters like in the same medium is too complicated for audiences and business.
Wouldn’t make much sense. Unless the universe has a massive time skip. The Batman takes place in 2022, Creature Commandos and Superman take in the same year maybe a few months into 2023.
@@ThanosDestroyeryearsagoThey could retcon the date if they wanted too but tbh by the time the batman movie comes out, it will probably be almost a decade since then
We saw the Batman in Creature Commandos he exist in that univers like 15 years thn the batman movie will be like Batman training Robbin in the DCU. Batman will not alone this time he will with his Bat family.
Sounds like Robert Pattinson is definitely on the casting list to be the DCU Batman. My pick is Alan Ritchson. But if Robert gets it, so be it. I won't reject it.
It would be cool but there’s one issue Gunn already said the bat family exists in the DCU nightwing, red hood, Damian meanwhile Pattinsons doesn’t have a robin unless the Batman sequel jumps a few years and we get some of the robins.
My guess is Robert Pattinson is going to be like a contingency if superman doesn't do well in the box office(I'm not saying the movie will be bad it's just that some phenomenal movies tend not to do well money wise) but if superman does do well it's going to let the Batman be it's own thing and the brave and the bold will move forward in future but that's just my guess, i just hope the movie does well the last time i watched a bright and colorful superman movie was Christopher Reeves version also i wasn't Born that time im in my late teens.
I know people are sick of the whole multiverse stuff by now, but since Gunn is already using holdovers from the DCEU like Waller and Peacemaker and maybe Blue Beetle, there’s no reason he can’t apply the same excuse (whatever that is) for using those characters and actors to using Pattinson to play a slightly different version of Batman.
I don’t care what anybody says. These two would absolutely kill it in a World finest movie. At the end of phase one. You don’t have to rewrite anything for the Batman part two. Just add Patterson to the post credit scene. And have him meet with Lois. 3:52 disagree you can still keep the same tone. Like Deadpool and Wolverine, or the punisher. But have a more lighthearted tone for crossovers. Going to have to disagree.
Muschietti can say whatever he wants but tbat hasn't had any significant development ever since it was announced. no script. no writer. nothing. it's not even greenlit yet. all this talk about pattinson coming to DCU will only end if brave and the bold gets a release date.
I really don’t want him to be the DCU Batman. I like that it’s its own separate thing. However it’s interesting he didn’t just say no it’s not happening.
The best way to do this in my opinion. Have BAB Batman be Robert Paterson but just be a variant with a different enough suit and a more traditional looking Bruce Wayne.
Doesn't matter what Matt Reese says. If the stockholders say yes, James Gunn directly tell him, "Hey, your Batman is the new Batman of this universe. He's going to have to do it whether he likes it or not because it's a Warner Brothers character, not his. No matter how many films he makes, he doesn't want crazy superpowers in his dark and gritty Batman."
No it does matter, james gunn has been said he considered it but respects matt not wanting to do it. And that he prefers to tell else world stories anyway since thats a popular thing in dc. Just yapping
It really wouldn't be, plus it'd give access to the entire batman villain catalogue instead of having to split between the two as well as splitting batman in two as well
You don't want batman to feel too much like Superman you want him to feel more dark and gritty. Superman villains are super strong Batman's are mentally twisted mixed with superhuman aspects such as clay face or bane. If he's gonna use clay face as the main villain its not gonna be that hard to imagine Superman and batman sharing the same world but staying out of each other's way
What if The Batman 2 was in the DCU's past? It could still be stand-alone but give context to the Batman of the present. 1st Robin, the building of the bat family.
Hell no. Reeves stuff is else world's and that's the end of the story. I thought this was about what Muschietti said a few hours ago, that the DCU will of course have it's own Batman. I hope that this finally puts an end to this dumb discussion.
Adam west Yvonne Craig Christopher Reeves And Linda carter never had A crossover justice league film featuring Batman Superman Wonder woman And Batgirl That's Also Why DC MEDIA IS ON A NEGATIVE DECLINE SINCE THEY NEVER HAD CONCLUSION OR CRISIS ON INFINITE EARTHS CROSSOVER AT ALL.
I remember when he sign his contract, one thing he didn't want his batman crossover and this was back when WB was fucking around with Zack and joss whedon justice league and with the horrible DC movie and now DC it back on track, he probably change his mind cause back then he didn't want nothing to do with DC and now it look like DC on the right path, he like maybe and I would love Robert be the main batman but I want Jame have his batman and maybe we get a no way home movie just two batman
None of you have even seen Superman movie yet. The Gunn glaze is crazy right now. This would be an absolute disaster if they did this. Now let me get this straight… you all were crying tears of joy when the Superman trailer dropped because of the light colors, comic booky mood and it gave you hope. It wasn’t too dark. That was your complaint with the Snyder films. They were too dark and too serious. Hello! The Reeves Batman world is as dark as it comes. Make this make sense.
I know some people don't want this, but if they can't have two Batman at the same time, then I would rather have Robert Pattinson as DCU Batman than they stopped Robert Pattinson being Batman and just have one Batman for DCU. If they do have two Batman at the same time, then why the hell can't they have two Superman at the same time. Lots of people will say Batman is more popular than Superman. From 2014 to 2022, we had 5 Batman. Two were on the big screen, Ben Affleck and Robert Pattinson. The other 3 were on TV shows. If you don't want to cout two of Batman from Batwoman and Titans, then there's only 3 Batman. From 2014 to 2022, there were only two Superman Tyler Hoechlin and Henry Cavill. How they hell no one is getting tired of Batman. So again, I would rather have Robert Pattinson as DCU Batman
He's not going to say much, I'm sure his hand is being forced and Gunn needs this because that superman suit is trash and isn't attracting much attention other than the drama surrounding it
I'd rather Matt Reeves Batman and Penguin be part of the Elseworld range, as I'd rather it stay true to it's grittyness... I wouldn't want it to be in the same ridiculous world as Peace Maker! Let the DCU and Elseworld build separate worlds and concentrate on making the best films you can for each type of fan!! 🤞🏻🙄
I don’t think this is ok if my friend. Brave and The Bold should be it down thing and whatever Gunn says it goes through him so no there won’t be a Batman from Matt Revees.
I hated the Matt Reeves movie. I really don't want his Batman to be the main Batman. And I just don't think Pattinson is the guy either, even away from Reeves. I feel like I have a 50/50 chance of winning a fight vs Robert Pattinson. I should never feel that way about someone playing Batman.
I really liked the Batman. I do not want him to be dcu Batman at all. There is no way they could make it work unless they just make him a completely different character, retcon the Batman and the penguin, and he gains a shit ton of weight, starts using insane batman technology and stuff. There is no way he would be able to fight a bad guy like darkseid. It doesn’t make sense.
@@catmanwyllie2277 if you think it was amazing you haven't seen enough movies. As a movie it's a 6 at best. At best. It's the type of movie that Gen Z thinks is amazing only because they haven't had enough actual amazing movies come out in their adult life nor have they gone back yet and actually watched the amazing films through time.
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I hope not, because I hated Robert Pattinson's Batman, I'm happy for the people who liked it. But I just couldn't and I really tried. I watched it three times at the theater and each time I saw it I just hated it more.
If done right this could go beyond the epicness of seeing cap and iron man together on screen and anything else
That endgame scene of Tony returning cap his shield is still one of the best moments in movies for me
Batman and Superman have a much better bromance than Tony and Cap. They’re much more well known
But it's already wrong, they'd have to go back on saying the Batman is older than superman plus the Batman is more grounded in realism hints the director saying he didn't want out of the world villains in his Batman.
I think it makes the most sense. 2 separate live action Batman film franchises at the same time is just an opening for conflict, delays, obstruction, and executive interference. One bombing would destroy the other with the flagship character of not only DC but Warner Brothers. Batman is more popular than any Marvel character, with the possible exception of Spider-Man.
We had a Black Adam movie with no Shazam, Venom, Madam Web, Morbius, Kraven with no Spider-man. Separate franchises of flagship characters like in the same medium is too complicated for audiences and business.
If Matt Reeves says it’s ok. I’m not going to disagree
agreed
They would have to treat Robert partitions Batman movies as a prequel to DCU Batman because the bat family is supposed to exist.
Wouldn’t make much sense. Unless the universe has a massive time skip. The Batman takes place in 2022, Creature Commandos and Superman take in the same year maybe a few months into 2023.
@ you’re right. I don’t remember an actual date being shown though but if that’s true yeah that’s not gonna work
@@ThanosDestroyeryearsagoThey could retcon the date if they wanted too but tbh by the time the batman movie comes out, it will probably be almost a decade since then
We saw the Batman in Creature Commandos he exist in that univers like 15 years thn the batman movie will be like Batman training Robbin in the DCU. Batman will not alone this time he will with his Bat family.
@@arafatrahman7492 this doesn’t have to be a conversation anymore because the director of the brave and the bold stated that pat isnt the DCU bat
Sounds like Robert Pattinson is definitely on the casting list to be the DCU Batman. My pick is Alan Ritchson. But if Robert gets it, so be it. I won't reject it.
@billymoore7182 i agree Alan Ritchson. Watch it be josh brolin
Alan Ritchson is too soft to play the Batman
It's not gonna be Josh Brolin. I could see him as Deathstroke, through. But who knows if he'll even get that.
Not really
@@billymoore7182 Alan does not have that much range as an actor.
It would be cool but there’s one issue Gunn already said the bat family exists in the DCU nightwing, red hood, Damian meanwhile Pattinsons doesn’t have a robin unless the Batman sequel jumps a few years and we get some of the robins.
My guess is Robert Pattinson is going to be like a contingency if superman doesn't do well in the box office(I'm not saying the movie will be bad it's just that some phenomenal movies tend not to do well money wise) but if superman does do well it's going to let the Batman be it's own thing and the brave and the bold will move forward in future but that's just my guess, i just hope the movie does well the last time i watched a bright and colorful superman movie was Christopher Reeves version also i wasn't Born that time im in my late teens.
I know people are sick of the whole multiverse stuff by now, but since Gunn is already using holdovers from the DCEU like Waller and Peacemaker and maybe Blue Beetle, there’s no reason he can’t apply the same excuse (whatever that is) for using those characters and actors to using Pattinson to play a slightly different version of Batman.
Andy muschietti said Robert Pattinson is not the DCU batman
We will see
Yea
@@Url_Seth yea
Muschietti also said Miller was the best Flash...........just think on that one!
And I don't trust Andy in making a Batman movie, he already ruined the Flash
I would be okay if they kept it simple w/ the members of the Bat Family.
I don’t care what anybody says. These two would absolutely kill it in a World finest movie. At the end of phase one. You don’t have to rewrite anything for the Batman part two. Just add Patterson to the post credit scene. And have him meet with Lois. 3:52 disagree you can still keep the same tone. Like Deadpool and Wolverine, or the punisher. But have a more lighthearted tone for crossovers. Going to have to disagree.
You mean World's Finest?
@@Coconut_Prrson you could also say that peacemaker, and suicide squad take place far in the future.
I really hope this happens. Could be great. Dont rush it and just slowly turn it more fantastical. It can Absolutely work, if done right.
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DCU Superman should only be Superman and Lois.
It would save so much money.
Great Robert Pattinson Is a Perfect DCU Batman
Muschietti plainly said that Pattinson will NOT be the DCU Batman.
Move TF on.
Muschietti can say whatever he wants but tbat hasn't had any significant development ever since it was announced. no script. no writer. nothing. it's not even greenlit yet. all this talk about pattinson coming to DCU will only end if brave and the bold gets a release date.
Remember when people hated the idea of Robert Pattinson as Batman? Oh how things change.Morons.
I really don’t want him to be the DCU Batman. I like that it’s its own separate thing.
However it’s interesting he didn’t just say no it’s not happening.
If that happens then they can't introduce Damien Wayne because this Batman is young
That's why I say the Brave and the Bold movie needs to be pushed back into the Chapter 2 of DCU
Batman Brave & the Bold Director said its not happening and that DCU Batman is not Pattinson Batman
Armin you said this was a conspiracy yesterday, now you changed your mind like the bloody wind.
For me, it makes sense because that’s what a true crossover is…..
The best way to do this in my opinion. Have BAB Batman be Robert Paterson but just be a variant with a different enough suit and a more traditional looking Bruce Wayne.
2016's suicide squad, 2021, THE Suicide Squad, DC'S Peacemaker SUPERMAN LANTERNS ON HOW THEY LINE UP
Doesn't matter what Matt Reese says. If the stockholders say yes, James Gunn directly tell him, "Hey, your Batman is the new Batman of this universe. He's going to have to do it whether he likes it or not because it's a Warner Brothers character, not his. No matter how many films he makes, he doesn't want crazy superpowers in his dark and gritty Batman."
No it does matter, james gunn has been said he considered it but respects matt not wanting to do it. And that he prefers to tell else world stories anyway since thats a popular thing in dc. Just yapping
I agree, if WB tells James Gunn they want him in it then that's whats gonna happen. I really don't want RP's Batman as the DCU's Batman!
Actually Michael Uslan owns batman not WB he allows them to use the character so technically he may be able to say no to Gunn 😂
No. Please. Let it be it’s own thing. Merging the two would be a MASSIVE mistake.
No it wouldn’t
No it will be epic
Yes it would be
It really wouldn't be, plus it'd give access to the entire batman villain catalogue instead of having to split between the two as well as splitting batman in two as well
You don't want batman to feel too much like Superman you want him to feel more dark and gritty. Superman villains are super strong Batman's are mentally twisted mixed with superhuman aspects such as clay face or bane. If he's gonna use clay face as the main villain its not gonna be that hard to imagine Superman and batman sharing the same world but staying out of each other's way
Since 1987 Superman 4 the quest for peace DC MEDIA WAS NEVER THE SAME AGAIN
What if The Batman 2 was in the DCU's past? It could still be stand-alone but give context to the Batman of the present. 1st Robin, the building of the bat family.
Even in Penguin we had some fantastical elements with the super fungus drugs.
There were absolutely zero fantastical elements In Penguin. Zero.
Hell no. Reeves stuff is else world's and that's the end of the story.
I thought this was about what Muschietti said a few hours ago, that the DCU will of course have it's own Batman. I hope that this finally puts an end to this dumb discussion.
Lol Hes Said it Could Happen
Both Batman is in jeopardy to be ruined
Adam west Yvonne Craig Christopher Reeves And Linda carter never had A crossover justice league film featuring Batman Superman Wonder woman And Batgirl That's Also Why DC MEDIA IS ON A NEGATIVE DECLINE SINCE THEY NEVER HAD CONCLUSION OR CRISIS ON INFINITE EARTHS CROSSOVER AT ALL.
THE DCU IS DOOMED DOOMED
I remember when he sign his contract, one thing he didn't want his batman crossover and this was back when WB was fucking around with Zack and joss whedon justice league and with the horrible DC movie and now DC it back on track, he probably change his mind cause back then he didn't want nothing to do with DC and now it look like DC on the right path, he like maybe and I would love Robert be the main batman but I want Jame have his batman and maybe we get a no way home movie just two batman
Batman doesn’t need to connect to that crab leave Batman alone lol
None of you have even seen Superman movie yet. The Gunn glaze is crazy right now. This would be an absolute disaster if they did this. Now let me get this straight… you all were crying tears of joy when the Superman trailer dropped because of the light colors, comic booky mood and it gave you hope. It wasn’t too dark. That was your complaint with the Snyder films. They were too dark and too serious. Hello! The Reeves Batman world is as dark as it comes. Make this make sense.
I know some people don't want this, but if they can't have two Batman at the same time, then I would rather have Robert Pattinson as DCU Batman than they stopped Robert Pattinson being Batman and just have one Batman for DCU. If they do have two Batman at the same time, then why the hell can't they have two Superman at the same time. Lots of people will say Batman is more popular than Superman. From 2014 to 2022, we had 5 Batman. Two were on the big screen, Ben Affleck and Robert Pattinson. The other 3 were on TV shows. If you don't want to cout two of Batman from Batwoman and Titans, then there's only 3 Batman. From 2014 to 2022, there were only two Superman Tyler Hoechlin and Henry Cavill. How they hell no one is getting tired of Batman. So again, I would rather have Robert Pattinson as DCU Batman
It sounds more like to me like a polite no.
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He's not going to say much, I'm sure his hand is being forced and Gunn needs this because that superman suit is trash and isn't attracting much attention other than the drama surrounding it
I'd rather Matt Reeves Batman and Penguin be part of the Elseworld range, as I'd rather it stay true to it's grittyness... I wouldn't want it to be in the same ridiculous world as Peace Maker! Let the DCU and Elseworld build separate worlds and concentrate on making the best films you can for each type of fan!! 🤞🏻🙄
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We don’t need another new Batman I like Pattinson as the dcu Batman
I don’t think this is ok if my friend. Brave and The Bold should be it down thing and whatever Gunn says it goes through him so no there won’t be a Batman from Matt Revees.
It’s honestly not even him
Sounds like a terrible idea
I hated the Matt Reeves movie. I really don't want his Batman to be the main Batman.
And I just don't think Pattinson is the guy either, even away from Reeves. I feel like I have a 50/50 chance of winning a fight vs Robert Pattinson. I should never feel that way about someone playing Batman.
It was amazing, why you hate it?
I really liked the Batman. I do not want him to be dcu Batman at all. There is no way they could make it work unless they just make him a completely different character, retcon the Batman and the penguin, and he gains a shit ton of weight, starts using insane batman technology and stuff. There is no way he would be able to fight a bad guy like darkseid. It doesn’t make sense.
@@catmanwyllie2277 if you think it was amazing you haven't seen enough movies. As a movie it's a 6 at best. At best. It's the type of movie that Gen Z thinks is amazing only because they haven't had enough actual amazing movies come out in their adult life nor have they gone back yet and actually watched the amazing films through time.
Awful for it to make sense
No thanks. Rather have someone else besides Pattinson.
Let Reeve finish before casting a dcu Batman. However, I don't think it should be Pattinson.
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Odd having Pattinson in goofy world
I wouldnt say the DCU is goofy
How stupid is this
Dude, the same world has True Detective style Green Lanterns series in works, the same world hates Superman, the same word will have hyper violent Stormwatch and don't talk about goofy like James Gordon and Penguin talk funny AF in the whole The Batman franchise, GTFO
@mr.knightthedetective7435 yeah that's the last thing we want but we don't really want anyway because it doesn't work
@@bestlexluthor7596 no chance no way in hell
I hope not, because I hated Robert Pattinson's Batman, I'm happy for the people who liked it.
But I just couldn't and I really tried.
I watched it three times at the theater and each time I saw it I just hated it more.
What did he break? He just confused people more
they shouldn't do this
I hope this don’t happen him in that world make zero sense they want a more grounded Batman Superman is far from grounded
Batman shouldn't be "grounded" period
Just because the Batman is grounded doesn’t mean it can’t work
My take is batman always starts off grounded but as he evolves he adapts to the more fantastical
Something has definitely happened to ruin DC!
Sorry but I don't think Pattinson should be DCU's Batman.
but…why though?
Both of them are BAD!!
Dcu Batman AND THE BATMAN PART 2 THE BATMAN PART 3, THE BATMAN PART 4 AND THE BATMAN PART 5 ARE ALL GOING TO BE RUINED
Oh please no
No!!
it well never make senes😒😒
josh brolin as batman!
Absolutely not
Omg no please cast a new actor
His twilight boy Batman is trash